somebody that's been up and down the tree must know that i was a distinct adult but don't believe we cut the punches really. helped me to. sort out some watching the house. side of my circle of light and the terrible size and time of my tired old mit offenses fighting back to the heights the sergeants the parents tired of my years has it's hard to see anyone less could be about to create a commission the car seat. cars to recite in the car some hard times to pick up the idea how to play hard ball seems our souls journey through weeds trying to outrun a terrible darby's to keep our bones merging word excludes farm this is to every

free on a house with a heavy bass how to pronounce it a pack i'm happy i was down and out of what you back now with the damp and epitaph to the sex that we could decide to pass look at the top of that it's now going to catch him out of my face on the stand now coming up on the interstate the top of the house in a straight up money you can see what it takes now by the shrub and away from the case i joined in the race but how about for a. place open space to the case of the case concept of free. so i was sort of self worth all. you've got an incredible amount of passion and

energy in your music and in your art and that really comes through and someone watches you perform like we just did i mean truly an inspirational so i really want to start with asking you who is the 5 defy the music producer artist educator from albuquerque new mexico representing the denomination defies also if you broke it break it down into acronym could be definitely eternal or def eternal forever inferno or definitely eternal forever internal short for definition rare. if you look at a sonically hi fi lo fi and somewhere in there is deaf eyes or to defy the 5 began probably in my middle school time and i've stuck with the name ever since so what like what was your inspiration and experience that. led you to bring in you know hip hop spoken word hip hop and traditional native american culture together

in your are like what brought those 2 forces together. i think it would be a combination of live in an urban and rural area and environments as a youth wasn't raised primarily i'm from a traditional side nor. you know the other side of things so basically. as a youth my grandparents on my maternal side they really instilled a lot of wisdom when i was at a lesson my mother also taught me how to read and write before i could walk so they gave me a good leading start to begin with in middle school i'd say about that time i got introduced to hip hop culture as far as like the b. boy b. girl cipher circuit i seen a direct similarities and connection between hip hop culture and my traditional culture as a dinette person and that both of those connections led me to kind of combine both together what were the similarities that caught your eye for instance as a dinette person we have for clans were very natural lineal culture and. our

reservation this around about 4 sacred mountains 4 sacred directions a lot of these numbers stood out to me and for the hip hop the 4 main elements to it. one of the main connections that really led me to become connected with hip is . the philosophies too as well like our people were not very judgment on this much for the most part and hip hop kind of is and is a universal culture to me so without having to look at someone's skin tones and hip hop practitioners can practice the ceremonies and i feel like that was inviting for me a lot of times it was hard to find acceptance growing up there in new mexico where i'm from so hip hop was there and so i always carry my cultural heritage with me you know it's interesting you you raised over a 1000000 dollars a big number you raised the room 1000000 dollars to help the water protectors of standing rock when that went down what was your inspiration for stepping forward and saying you know what i'm going to use my are going to use who i am and what i

do to raise money for those people out there put you know put their lives on the line it's very wrong. you know i was a part of the fund raising i didn't do it entirely myself i've got to give credit to the collective crew family was you say of. hip hop practitioners people who are just there to help and we all together fundraise over a 1000000 dollars in one night hip hop concert by texting water at this certain number you able to leave a monetary donation just a little back story like that but i started out as a battle rapper 1st and i seen the entertainment value side of that but after a while i realized that i could apply myself in much more useful ways are much more impactful ways rather than battling someone's head to head why not try to go towards the system instead and try to wake up in the fire the system sort of speak and. that's kind of how defy started i did a song when i 1st was inspired as these hydraulic fracturing zones were getting close. closer to my homelands where my grandparents are from this and new mexico is

very rural at that point in time i realized that i needed to apply myself as an emcee a music producer towards the much larger issues that and then just battle rap so i stepped outside of the box and wrote this song called the land of in fact me and that's kind of a flip on the on the slogan of our state and just to expose and also raise awareness of all these atrocities that are happening throughout that fracturing zones you know areas and from that point on i've just been a helping hand as part of the many different movements for the indigenous peoples movement and many others as well but that's probably the most that was a that was a beginning you know after hearing your music and like i mentioned earlier that passion that you have that like just bleeds out of every every verse every bar every word i really want those like how do you sit down when you sit down the writers write a song you know like what is that process for you when you sit down and say ok you

know i'm going to write about this issue of fracking or i'm just going to you know write some fire to get people jumping up and down like what how do you tackle that how do you approach each song each song is kind of approach very differently but for the most part i'm writing my lyrics behind the driver's seat i know it's a little risky but when i'm mad it's very rural areas i could drive out and enjoy the scenery. and be out of the city put on a instrumental usually the beep guides 1st take out my beats through different producers go from there and so you're literally like right behind the wheel of a car in a beautiful new mexico or they're going to they're painted sky a landscape or there's a signal like listen to examine and write about yeah exactly a lot of times i'll freestyle to think of the ideas and then just put it down on paper. who are some of your inspirations and they're part of. many inspirations i guess from my youth the 1st hip hop. song i heard was probably a run d.m.c.

or chill raji tracks and as far as emceeing goes there's so many different amazing talented emcee that have inspired me to name a few. big pine big arrow care as one percy p. . mike and 9 and freestyle fellowship evidence the dilated peoples of those are very influential artists of the good variety and you can see that not reflected in your work and so you don't feel bad but you can definitely feel that the style and. one of the things that's interesting too is your work you work a lot with young people and. you know how has your work with those young people how was that inspired the music and the art that you create. a voice inspired me since the beginning in especially when times when i guess an artist may get tired of war now from trying to continue working with the youth has been very

inspirational because they provide so much support 1st of all they keep things brand new and fresh for me i don't get worn out or i don't complain a lot a lot of people say like how do you keep going in not complaining about being on the road all the time. just going back home and doing youth outreach or just makes me happy true happiness by working with the youth i was always raised in a classroom setting a come from a family of educators and healers so i've always been in the classroom since i was a kid my mom has been a teacher in a big inspiration for that so when people ask why are you so connected to that it's just kind of just who i am and i was brought up that way and raised that way. working with the youth also gives me a sense of purpose that's much deeper than. working for just myself for what would you say monetary gain or certain things like that or some are just going for the fame like it's never really been a focus of mine but. practitioners feel like i have

a responsibility to give back and that's what i really focus on that it's a big focus of part of my mission couldn't afford the jaw i'm 944 when the 4th that john ordered school i went to boarding school forced the move got chores and more sports in a dorm but only one course of fire chief kept the wood burning before morning outside the house early at 440 past the sheep rug on the floor by the door when the dormitory escaped the doors and explore war pony here to take it back home. to scrub the present your face and scrape the residue resume like beams are people. able to cope with all the pain that we saw in the next generations of welcome but before the preservation was a home you know the nation was but i'm in a sweat lodge see in a vision it's like i'm back out the dream in the grand mother moon in the fetal position.

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the whole nation philip morris is trying to use i.e. s.t.'s to stop. from implementing new tobacco regulations aimed at cutting domestic smoking rates a fringe company sued egypt because egypt resists minimum wage democratic choice. to join us as we try to find. we're entering into this strange space you know i think about in the ninety's in the beginning of perpetual copyright and so are copyright essentially laws become perpetual and intellectual creativity is dead and to a large degree now after petrol live at home so the dynamism that would be coming with new household creation is dead and to a large degree we have perpetual all money printing money and money go per so we have this deadening of economic growth because the printing

money keeps their zombie companies. zombie banks alive so we're basically burying our solve some of them perpetuity. there's a war. sure there. isn't a clearing most. of the field is so. those folks you saw. the point was to use the book with their lives those that would use up this is the belief. but. of course.

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from. yeah when i'm out and about far away from home i can sometimes sense. that people look at us as we're almost not even human beings in certain instances not everywhere i go but there are some places what i can look at somebody and just take a quick glance and they almost look at me with some type of sense of resentment that there's people out there who believe that. we're only one kind of people i mean there's so many different tribes that exist here in the country and we're all very different a lot of times people to like you know we're sitting here at a bar a lot of times people think that we're just alcoholics myself. i've been over like 6 years alcohol free and like there's many of us who never even drank or did drugs before so that's another misconception people believe that we're all poor but we're really we're very rich in culture tradition cultural heritage a lot of people also believe that. every tribe gets per capita are like we we're

helped out are like where we get a helping hand no matter what was that's really not the case sometimes when you come to the deep parts of the reservations or the most rural areas i think a lot of people in music they only see the big names in the big lights right like they're only used to seeing the cat on the m.t.v. or the cat on the cover of a magazine things like that but that it's a bigger world than that i've heard to describe sort of like you know if you become in if i don't artist at a certain time you can you know either be in it for monetary gain and be like this was to be considered as a rapper but i consider myself more as and see and i think that allows myself to be more community based and not a self-serving entrepreneur more like you know i'm here of service as well for. representing myself my family my friends but also the culture of hip hop and that sense of pride in me being proud of who i am as an as internet man and also as and

see it gives me strength but also gives me direction to what i'm actually doing here with the music hip-hop is. save my life so. me being me being part of the culture is like just i mean i want to contribute just as much as i can ship papa's help to me and so when they sort of surgery life like how did hip hop save your life. hip hop save my life. through the friendships and bonds and through the practice of itself i feel like as i was working on these skills the skills were also working on me to become a better person and started out as a homeless artist and if it was. for the hip hop community or the hip hop scene at that time i wouldn't have had a place to stay i wouldn't have had. food and just basic survival needs so the hip hop community has been there for me since day one and what advice would you give you know or a younger person in similar shoes to you who buys finds that spirit finds that

voice you know through music. for myself i mean why are our tribe deals with a lot of energy enter a tional a trauma or trauma that. just

water freezes testi water but that's because it's not light shines it's the sort of magic box that's like to make these plastic ones that's what subsequently you want to present the street i'll head up but don't get caught up in its tracks as i stand up somewhat upset because our style they've been basically needs at the foot of the truck to deal with the bob xander satellite truck is no surprise that this leads to steal spinning in his pocket it's a box they could give up in a bid to distract if they don't have a very hysterical types of paper comparable to the night's episode garbage you might say never your flight back to the docks the same rapid pull back from the signal and this signal him you do have. you know political nature of what you're talking about because i think a lot of what you rub about

a lot of what you what your songs are about you know they like to mention republic fracking and things like that you know you put those those flavors in there how important is music to changing. politics or changing in issue or attacking an issue or maybe people aware of an issue like how important is music to . feel like music can inspire and empower many people and i feel like it the messages there that. or you look at it like the last song that you did for like the last song that you did for us that's such an enlightening song and it's such a powerful song using the mix of you know your heritage and your people as well as the drum beat and then the hip hop flavor in the archipelago you know you know that song has about that song teaches as a tribal person you kind of grow up loving the environment and that's it and that's inside you already instilled so. doesn't make you a politician so to speak but the issues the politics that you know surround and

they directly relate to our lives and way to live so. it's a responsibility for me to create music that. inspires and helps empower others because i was just in spy. empowered from hearing music from a lot of the greats and legends of the hip hop pioneers is that it's a continuation is you're right you know it's a beautiful continuation. i want to finish up and ask you you know when you look at your career and you look at where you're going you know you're only 33 years old you've got a long career in front of you got a lot more music to write a lot more beauty to produce on this world what do you what do you imagine or what do you hope your legacy years with your music and who you are. and i got it's fired from reading something i think from kara's warner somewhere where he's making music for the future generations creating a catalog that can outlast and also transcend generations i would like for

my music to help inspire future generations and also help anybody in need who. who feels alone or phil's. depressed i mean. i make music to just to help a lot and i do make music just the likes i do have tracked i just did fire not really. just focus on a specific concept but it's hard to see the ripple effects of us sometimes because we're just moving and moving and moving and moving and i hope to look back one day and be able to. thrive with my music career but also really it's a money give back tenfold as much as i received i mean i got to say my hip hop has been there since the beginning so it's hard for me to say what i really want out of it it's hard to describe man i just sometimes that the music speaks for itself. and that ladies and gentlemen is our show for you to day thank you all very much for watching and remember in this world we are not told that we are loved enough so i

tell you all i love you i am tyrrel but keep on watching those hawks and have a great day and night everybody. the world is driven by shaped by one person. the dares thinks. we dare to ask.

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