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so i was sort of self worth all. you got an incredible amount of passion and energy in your music and in your art and that really comes through in someone watches you perform what we just did i'm very truly inspirational so i really want to start with asking you who is the 5. defy and see music producer artist educated from albuquerque new mexico representing the dinette nation defies all so if you broke it break it down an acronym could be definitely eternal or def external forever inferno or definitely eternal forever internal short for definition rare. if you look at it sonically hi fi lo fi and somewhere in there. or to defy the fire began probably in my middle school time and i've stuck with the

name ever since. like what was your inspiration and experience that. led you to bring hip hop spoken word hip hop and traditional native american culture together like what brought those 2 forces together. i think it would be a combination of living in urban and rural areas environments as a youth wasn't raised primarily from a traditional side noir. you know the other side of things so basically. as i use my grandparents on my maternal side they really instilled a lot of wisdom when i was at a lesson my mother also taught me how to read and write before i could walk so they gave me a good leading start to begin with in middle school i'd say about that time i got introduced to hip hop culture as far as like to be able to be gross i 1st started i seen a direct similarities and connection between hip hop culture and my traditional culture as a dinette person and that both of those connections led me to kind of combine both

together what were the real errors of value. for instance as a dinette person we have 4 clans we're very matrilineal culture and our reservation it's around about 4 sacred mountains 4 sacred directions a lot of these numbers stood out to me and for the hip hop 4 main elements to it. one of the main connections that really led me to become connected we have is. the philosophies too as well like our people were not very judgment on this much for the most part in hip hop kind of is and is a universal culture to me so without having to look at someone's skin tones practitioner can practice the ceremonies and i feel like that was inviting for me a lot of times it was hard to find acceptance growing up there in new mexico where i'm from so hip hop was there so i always carry my cultural heritage with me. it's

interesting you you raised over a 1000000 dollars a big number you raised the room 1000000 dollars to help the water protectors of standing rock when that went down what was your inspiration for stepping forward and saying you know what i'm going to use my are going to use who i am and what i do to raise money for those people out there putting you know putting their lives on the line and standing. i was a part of the fund raising i didn't do it entirely myself i've got to give credit to the collective crew family which you say of. hip hop practitioners people who are just there to help and we all together fundraise over a 1000000 dollars in one night hip hop concert by texting water at this certain number you able to leave a monetary donation just a little back story with that but i started out as a battle rapper 1st and i seen the entertainment value side of that but after a while i realized that i could apply myself in much more useful ways are much more impactful ways rather than battling someone's head to head why not try to go

towards a system instead and try to wake up in the fire the system sort of speak and. that's kind of how defy started i did a song when i 1st was inspired as these hydraulic fracturing zones were getting closer and closer to my homeland where my grandparents are from and some nasty new mexico is very rural at that point in time i realize that i needed to apply myself as an emcee a music producer towards a much larger issues at hand then just battle rap so i stepped outside of the box and wrote this song called the land of in frack me and that's kind of a flip on the on the slogan of our stay and just to expose and also raise awareness of all these atrocities that are happening through hydraulic fracturing zones in our areas and from that point on i've just been helping hand as part of the many different movements for the indigenous peoples movement and many others as well but that's probably the most that was a that was a beginning you know after hearing your music and like i mentioned earlier that

passion that you have that like just leads out of every every verse every bar every word i really want goes like how do you sit down when you're sat down the writers write a song you know like what is that process for you when you sit down and say ok you know i'm going to write about this issue of fracking or i'm just going to you know write some fire to get people jumping up and down like what wow do you talk about how do you approach each song. each songs kind of approach very differently but for the most part i'm writing my lyrics behind the driver's seat i know it's a little risky but when i'm mad it's very rural areas i can drive out and enjoy the scenery. and be out of the city put on a instrumental usually the beep guides 1st take out my beats through different producers go from there and so you're literally like right behind the wheel of a car and that beautiful directs the co you know they're going to painted sky landscape when you're just sitting there like listening to examine and write them out yeah exactly

a lot of times all 3 start to think of the ideas and then put it down on paper. who are some of your inspirations and have. many inspirations i guess from a youth 1st hip hop song i heard was probably a run d.m.c. or chill raji track and as far as emceeing goes there's so many different amazing talented emcee that have inspired me to name a few. big pine big arrow care as one person. micah 9 and freestyle fellowship evidence the dilated peoples those are very influential artists of the good variety and you can see that not reflected in your work instead of like you don't feel bad but you can definitely feel that the style and. one of the things that's interesting too is your work you work a lot with young people and. you know how has your work with those young people

how was that inspired the music and the art that you create the youth of always inspired me since the beginning in especially when times when i guess an artist may get tired of war now from trying to continue working with the youth has been very inspirational because they provide so much support 1st of all and they keep things brand new and fresh for me i don't get worn out or i don't complain a lot of. people say like how do you keep going and not complaining about being on the road all the time. just going back home and doing youth outreach it just makes me i guess happy true happiness by working with the youth i was always raised in a classroom setting i come from a family of educators and healers so i've always been in the classroom since i was a kid my mom has been a teacher in a big inspiration for that so when people ask why are you so connected to that of others it's just kind of just who i am and was brought up that way and raised that way. working with the youth also gives me a sense of purpose that's much deeper than. working for just myself for what would

you say monetary gain or certain things like that or some artist going for the fame like that's never really been a focus of mine but. hip-hop practitioners and see i feel like i have a responsibility to give back and that's what i really focus on that it's a big focus of part of my mission couldn't afford the jaw a magazine 44 and a 4th that john ordered schoolboy in a boarding school forced the move got chores and more sports in a dorm but only one course of fire chief kept the wood burning before morning outside the outhouse early at 440 past the sheep rug on the floor by the door when the dormitory escaped out of corporate doors and explore pony here to take it back home because you are not the president to scrub the president not your face and scrape the white the residue resume like beams of people resonate with resolute. able to cope with all the pain that we soak in the next generations of welcome but before the preservation was a home you know the nation was stolen but i'm in

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we're entering into this strange space you know i think about in the ninety's in the beginning of perpetual copyright and so are copyright essentially laws become perpetual and intellectual creativity is dead and to a large degree now after petrol live at home so the dynamism that would be coming with new household creation is dead and to a large degree after pacha wall money printing money and money. so we have this deadening of economic growth because the printing money keep those zombie companies in the zombie banks alive so we're basically burying ourselves in perpetuity. there's a war. zone . is the route for.

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yeah when i'm out and about far away from home i can sometimes sense. that people look at us as we're almost not even human beings in certain instances not everywhere i go but there are some places what i can look at somebody and just take a quick glance and they almost look at me with some type of sense of resentment there are people out there who believe that. we're only one kind of people i mean there's so many different tribes that exist here in the country and we're all very different a lot of times people to like you know we're sitting here at a bar a lot of times people think that we're just alcoholics myself. i've been over like

6 years alcohol free and there's many of us who would never even drink or did drugs before so that's another misconception people believe that we're all poor but we're really we're very rich in culture tradition cultural heritage a lot of people also believe that. every tribe gets per capita are like we we're helped out are like where we get a helping hand no matter what was really not the case sometimes when you come to the deep parts of the reservations or the most rural areas i think a lot of people in music they only see the big names in the big lights right like they're only used to see in the cat on them t.v. or the cat on the cover of a magazine things like that but that it's a bigger world than that i've heard it described sort of like you know if you become in a if i don't artist at a certain time you can you know either be in it for monetary gain and be like this was to be considered as a rapper but i consider myself more as and see and i think that allows myself to be

more community based and not a self-serving entrepreneur more like you know i'm here of service as well for. representing myself my family my friends but also the culture of hip hop and that sense of pride in me being proud of who i am as an as and in that manner and also as and see it gives me strength but also gives me direction to what i'm actually doing here with the music hip hop is. save my life so. me being me being part of the culture is just i mean i want to contribute just as much as i can chip pop is helping me so when they sort of surgery life like how did hip hop save your life. hip hop save my life. through the friendships and bonds and through the practice of itself i feel like as i was working on these skills the skills were also working on me to become a better person and started out as

a homeless artist and if it wasn't for the hip hop community or the hip hop scene at that time i wouldn't have had a place to stay i wouldn't have had. food and just basic survival needs so hip hop community has been there for me since day one and what advice would you give you know our younger. our tribe of energy generation will trauma or trauma that. a big part of me growing as artists was realizing that i had to. actualize myself. for much more potential than i would if i didn't believe in myself. myself from there like.

i would encourage anyone out there. has to be. a half. crazy. powwow.

you. don't want to see that. with the. i'm a fan of up man up a man. must have consciously help us if we just take a discount to teach us to stress about this stuff that you can teach him but that's just it's just expected to track yes to success rates because they can trust that to be torn up on the best just trying to support a free system for sure but that's because it's not something i tried it's just sort of the magic box that's like to make these classics want to explore you want to present the street i'll head up but don't get caught up in a trap that's a bad on someone else i recall showers feel they've been based in it's at the foot of the truck the milk with the bob xander satellite truck is no surprise that is the deal is still spinning and it's poppy that somebody could get up in

a big piece of this track if they don't mind is very hysterical times about every complaint but a nightmare but some garbage you might say never your flight back to the docks the same crap with all that from the signal by deciding on him you do have. you know political nature of what you're talking about because i think a lot of what you rub about a lot of what you what your songs are about you know they like to mention with fracking and things like that you know you put those those flavors in there how important is music to changing. politics or changing in issue or attacking an issue or making people aware of an issue like how important is music to. feel like music can inspire and empower many people and i feel like it the messages there that. or you look at it like the last song that you did for like the last song that you did for us that's such an enlightening song and it's such a powerful song using the mix of you know your heritage and your people as well as

the drum beat and the hip hop flavor in the archipelago of the you know you know that song as about that song teaches as a tribal person you kind of grow up loving the environment and that's it and that's inside you already instilled so. doesn't make you. the titian sort of speak but the issues that politics that you know surround it they directly relate to our lives and way to life so. it's a responsibility for me to create music that. inspires and helps empower others because i was just inspired and empowered from hearing music from a lot of the greats and legends of the hip hop pioneers is that it's a continuation is you know right you know it's a beautiful continuation. i want to finish up and ask you you know when you look at your career and you look at where you're going you know you're only 33 years old you've got a long career in front of you got a lot more music to write a lot more beauty to produce on this world what do you what do you imagine or what

do you hope your legacy years with your music and who you are. and i got inspired from reading something i think from kara's one or somewhere where he's making music for the future generations creating a catalog that can last and also transcend generations i would like for my music to help inspire future generations and also help anybody in need who. who feels alone or phil's. depressed i mean. i make music just to help a lot and i do make music just the likes i do have track tried to spit fire not really. just focus on a specific concept but it's hard to see the ripple effects of us sometimes because we're just moving and moving and moving and moving and i hope to look back one day and be able to. thrive with my music career but also really it's a money give back tenfold as much as i received i mean i got to say my hip hop has

been there since the beginning so it's hard for me to say what i really want out of it it's hard to describe man i just sometimes that the music speaks for itself. and that ladies and gentlemen is our show for you to day thank you all very much for watching and remember in this world we are not. told that we are loved enough so i tell you all i love you i am tyrrel but keep on watching those hawks and have a great day and night everybody. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to get a feel of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then

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