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thanks for joining us. welcome to the program. the european parliament has just passed a resolution urging sanctions on russia in response to the alleged assassination plot against opposition figure. and he's got more details. 532 m. e p's voting in favor of this resolution 84 against with 72 abstentions what it could result in a is asset freezes travel bans another sign sions against those that are featured in the zante corruption videos could also lead to they also want to see an international probe into what happened to alexa and of ali when they talk about an international probe that's including the united nations the european union the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons and others all to be on side with that and it talks about blocking the construction of nord stream to the gas

pipeline that takes russian gas or will take russian gas under the baltic sea directly into germany earlier this week we heard from us about l. the e.u. high representative for foreign affairs saying that wasn't within the remit of the e.u. institutions to do he said it would be up to the individual member states that are involved in the project if they were to council out call it off block it in any way or just temporarily suspend it however we have heard from the e.u. commission president saying now is the time for action and 2000 that advocates closer ties with russia. i say that the poisoning of alexei navalny with an advanced chemical agent is not a one off. we have seen the pattern in georgia and in ukraine in syria and saulsbury and then election meddling around the world. and this pattern

is not changing and no pipeline will change that where moscow is still saying burleson must share with them the evidence that is behind the claims alexei navalny was poisoned kremlin spokesperson dmitri press corps was also talking about nord stream 2 he says it's a purely commercial project and shouldn't be tied to anything political or diplomatic that's ongoing. we strongly disagree with such a statement it seems a deliberate misunderstanding or an unconscious misunderstanding of what really happened to the patient in berlin which is necessary to stop mentioning north stream to in a political context which is a commercial project that is absolutely in line with the interests of russia and the countries of the european union to cuba early germany it was a similar feeling from russia's permanent representative to the european union he said that the north stream to gas pipeline project came about because of the

european union and in particular germany's need for gas a commercial need for that gas that still exists and that's why in his opinion he thought the north stream to pipeline would go ahead as it being planned well alexina valley the man at the center of all of this in his alleged poisoning is said to be recovering in the hospital he's still being treated out here in berlin earlier this week we heard from the hospital saying that he was now able to leave his bed for short periods of time. was go live now from a civilian krar member of the european parliament for germany sir thanks for joining us good to have you on the program today so the resolution is passed it's not unanimous but fairly obvious the majority of opinion there is certainly to take some formal action against russia it's a non-binding resolution do you expect any further steps to be taken against moscow here. no i don't i don't expect at the. the european council

has now to decide and there are governments in. i think they're a little bit more reliable than the majority of my colleagues here so it's just a statement and it reflects the entitle russian atmosphere the majority holds in dust parliament europe wants russia to investigate the case and to share the results with the international community but russia still doesn't have the evidence on the poisoning from the german side here despite more than one request here why do you think nobody's listening to moscow's requests to provide this evidence. look we don't have the evidence and you know no one of ticked off the members of parliament who today. voted in favor of sanctions has seen any evidence so. what we learn is that in politics sometimes you don't need evidence you just

need to look at momentum. i have no clue why are the evidence is not shared room or say. because the laboratory didn't want to want to tell the russians are how detailed they are able to analyze but i. am not a chemist chemist but i don't think that is very convincing so no one has evidence the need of the us president has evidence nor we have evidence here. for a for a campaign or for a political way if you don't need that evidence at least not in the european parliament so i don't expect that you get that evidence but the same people who say we don't give you the evidence will tell you we have we expect from russia to investigate that's part of the game. russia earlier asked the e.u. not to politicize this case but given the high profile nature of what's happened but given the previous case with the script poisoning do you think it was ever

realistic for this case not to be politicized. it was not realistic it was absolutely clear that this is another chance to to push the enter russian agenda i followed at the bit especially concerning all 3 and 2 in the european american parliamentary delegation. and i always when we meet asked the us ambassador wyden the illegal 3rd party sanctions and the answer is always the same or go on and who do everything it can to stop that project and if you have a clear goal to stop a project then you take every possibility you get to do so and of course there are nuclear incident that occurred with missile or bonnie is such an opportunity to push the own again. and so it was clear from the beginning that

this chance would be used. as the supporters of law 3 him to try our best to stop that wave and to get the project done. there's no unanimous approach the condemnation of what happened in the valley may seem to be more unanimous small stream 2 there are some countries that are actively calling for the project to be scrapped or at least put on hold others as yourself that are taking the opposite side how much do you think that project is actually out risk of being put on hold as a result of what's happened. i mean 1st put the project is always on risk and it will be on risk until it is finalized and that's the. i think the project has political implication it has to 1st the 1st is it is competitive against us fracking gas and it is also competitive against existing pipelines

through ukraine and through poland so if one's chooses working then of course the business for trends that fees which is a good business for both poland and ukraine is not see a good anymore and for us the same they want to export their. less ecologically and less less cheap gas so we have an economic interest against it and the other party is linking germany and russia economically in terms of energy makes germany more independent from american influence and it springs do you raise the. corporation that the thumb saying that every one dreams about the american empire on both sides of the atlantic cannot wish so a good business project between germany and russia is always

a threat to do is who don't want to have stronger ties between germany and russia so we will see but my opinion is that we will see dead project gets done there is only 120 kilometers to build and i'm quite optimistic that we can finalize it by the end of this here or early 2021 but it is really tough and. i would say i had a 90 percent certainty to get it done 2 months ago and now you see me middle and say 65 percent certainty but it's it's i'm still optimistic just going back to the question of evidence and results the o.p.c. w. ses those results of the analysis will be provided. to berlin shortly nothing mentioned about providing the results to russia so let them carry out their investigation although correct me from wrong understand the resolution actually

calls for the evidence to be provided to russia what do you think the next stage in the process is going to be do you think the evidence will be made public do you think it will be provided to russia where do we go from here. what i expect is that it is only get published and provided to russia if there is public pressure. until especially in germany but in india whole of the european union the public do not demand. transparency and do not demand. to cheat to cooperate with russia in. there no one will share it but if the public says ok we do it played it silly game any longer we are not ready to accept any russian sanctions without ever having seen evidence then of course the pressure will increase and it will be shared or we will never hear anything from that anymore if the evidence is weak but today we have to

unpleasant situation that the public believes what the german government seems and until that. as long as the public remains in the truce in that confidence. that is what i expect everything what happens only happen when there is an increasing pressure and so we need public pressure i mean that's why i i'm here and bring that statement even to to make more people aware that we talk about just a suspicion that we don't have facts we don't have evidence and i can only ask everyone to to do mont evidence and then divil see further without that the amount of evidence for that i would public pressure i don't think. the results would be

shipped ok marks of an increase of european parliament for germany thanks for joining us on the program so good to have you on. thanks very much. separate resolution also passed today the european parliament addressed the situation in belarus he welcomed the belorussian opposition coordination council calling it a temporary representation of the people and also called for a new election in the country and war against the earth has more on the story. well so far it doesn't mean very much because it is a recommendation the european parliament doesn't have any legislative power who will you know power to enact or enforce its resolutions they're more a recommendation for the european council which is made up of the heads of states of the european union and what they recommend is that the european union the heads of states the european council seriously consider sanctions sanctions against the

russian president alexander lukashenko sanctions against those who supported him those who continue to support him even sanctions against russian officials and citizens who they believe supported president they've also determined that the election was unfair they don't recognize his legitimacy and once his term is up they will no longer recognize him as the legitimate president of better of saying that the elections that took place in august in belarus happened in flagrant violation of the laws electoral laws and international norms moreover they have decided to recognize the opposite opposition coordination council committee as the representatives of the better russian people which may seem odd because most of its members original members have fled the country one maria kolesnik of a is in jail here and in minsk and she is being she's being accused and charged with trying to seize power and destabilize their worst. nevertheless the european

parliament has recommended that the european council recognize the year coordination council 3 as the legitimate representative body temporary body of the better russian people of the council itself the committee has stated very goals from deposing of the president president to merely organizing new elections lithuania by the way had previously also recognized the north of one of the rivals running against president bush. during the election as the legitimate representative of the better russian people and as as was mentioned earlier you know protests still continuing we see on the weekends thousands upon thousands of people marching down the streets of means chanting for the president president to reside but we've also seen somewhat of a slowdown there are less and less spontaneous protest during the during the week this week there have been hardly any. public strike the guys that called for by the

opposition yesterday was a failure they called the people and businesses shut down for people to not go to work that was really only about a dozen people joined into this walkout joined into this protest so you know there is there is a market slowdown in this protest mood in belarus. russia says it won't detain opponents request 3 air traffic controllers who are working on the day of the van polish president's plane crash the russian territory in 2010 a common spokesman said the move would not be possible on the russian law after an investigative group from the polish prosecutor general's office applied to get a court motion to have the russian citizens temporarily arrested the charges against the air traffic controllers concerned the deliberate provocation of a plane crash resulting in the deaths of many people the tragedy happened back in

april 20 turn in western russia where the polish president was heading to pay an official visit the plane crashed while trying to land a bid for ground generally poor weather conditions all those on board including the president's wife and other senior polish officials and citizens were killed separate investigations by both russia and poland came to similar conclusions that the actions of the pilots alerted the crash of a pole and also noted mistakes by russian air traffic controllers. 2017 polish prosecutors accuse the russian air traffic controllers of deliberately causing the crash they are a 2nd part is commission claimed there was an explosion on board before the plane hit the ground. mark of the crisis research center thanks for joining us on the program is that a good to have you on. where we are where this. doesn't extradite its citizens abroad what's poland hoping to achieve there exactly with this request knowing that it. can't be carried out. well i think it's less to do with the actual case and

it's more the politicization of the issue partly of the most powerful politician in the polish government coalition the ousting of kaczynski who is the brother of the president who was killed in the crash and so he has a person emotion involvement but also he has a deep emotional commitment to an anti russian narrative of polish history and the catchin mass occurs in 1940 of polish prisoners of war held by the soviet authorities is one of the key events in the poisoning of relations between poland and the soviet union and poland and russia down to the present day and it's also part of the internal politics of poland to present poland as the victim and also to marginalize anybody who criticizes kaczynski in his party as somehow or other being a puppet of poland the old occupying power both in imperial days before $917.00 and in soviet period and so this is a highly politicized event and of course the polish prosecution of the iraqis are

political appointees so it's not as though this is a kind of scientific show homestar or probe i think all the evidence sadly tragically is that it was an accident an accident involving very high profile figures from the president of poland down to former solidarity activists and that made it a highly emotional and disastrous development but it and it's also been a poisonous development inside polish politics because of course. the present government accuses its predecessor of covering up the alleged russian plot it's highly unlikely that prime's tatoos can so and his colleagues were serving the interests of russia they were quite firmly pronate so quite critical of president putin's foresees many areas but it's a sign that how this issue and this attitude towards russia has become an internal battle in poland as much as a geopolitical battle between warsaw and moscow. as we said earlier this investigation actually came to a similar conclusion poland though did attribute some blame to air traffic

controllers as well 3 years ago so why are they only asking for their arrest now what's the day do you think. well partly i think again it's more symbolism remember today the 17th of september is the anniversary in 1039 all the red armies advance into eastern poland after the germans began to invade on the 1st time in $139.00 so it's a traumatic day in polish history the day of complete catastrophe the collapse of the polish state but also by the way the emergence from polish rule of the modern day by the russian ukrainian and lithuanian states because of all the capital of lithuania building this was part of poland until stalin gave it to the way new. and so for many poles the 17th of september a day hardly known in the west is the day of if you like to st for the country at the outbreak was a world war and now because poem is part of the e.u.

and germany is an ally and partner although push comes to demands reparations from germany it is easier to direct the sense that all the tragedy of polish history from 939 to 45 was the result of stalin's actions and perhaps a little bit to downplay hitler. and the control of the modern history of that mark on the director of the crisis research center thanks for your time today and art international. thank you. for staying with the topic of history ignorance about the holocaust among young americans are sparked concern after a survey found most didn't know how many jewish lives it claimed were the full story coming for you just after this break. theory mechanism some plasticity it enables stretch to get under the skin and to any negative effect on our mind in our body those same very

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welcome back to the program he's been called out for frequently making gaffes on the campaign trial and baden's confused iran and iraq when talking to veterans about where they are. u.s. troops died in a room in afghanistan. parliament iran's parliament voted to reject all americans and coalition forces in the country we try to do not in iraq is not working so now we're going to try i mean in iran and scuse me. in ukraine i mean you know someone who has been injured or lost. let me tell you something. we. all it's that particular conflict in iraq that joe biden has been widely criticized for for playing a key role in authorizing back in 2002 at the time he chaired the u.s.

congress foreign relations committee and shows all 18 pro-war witnesses in the main hearings on iraq and later turned out the iraqi leader saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction or ties to al qaeda by conservative estimate more than 4000 u.s. soldiers on the same number of contracts as lost their lives in the invasion. a former u.s. marine corps intelligence officer scott ritter claims he was ridiculed for briefing boyden about the absence of any w m d's. what is a big deal is joe biden's vote for the iraq war and i take it personally because i briefed joe biden in person you know he insulted me when i testified for the united states senate in those september 1908 about iraq and weapons of mass destruction he'd be a little be a scouting boy he said people above my pay grade are making this decision that cetera and then he met with me and apologized and said he you know you know a lot we should talk about this in 2002 in the lead up to the vote on the war he as

you mentioned he hosted a hearing and i did my darndest to become a witness for that hearing he ignored me. it was very rude the way he did so and as you said he brought in truth more witnesses he stacked the deck it was a kangaroo court because joe biden wanted to go to war he always wanted to go to war any boated for that war that's what american veterans are going to hold him to account for the military is not a litmus test for american patriotism. but you can't run around and pretend that you are mr raw raw google military when you are you know there's not a single non political combat veteran who is going to give joe biden a pass on this one joe biden has 0 credibility when it comes to talking about the military talking about war above all talking about sacrifice he literally has no credibility it doesn't resonate. and you found young americans don't know much

about the holocaust the research was conducted in 50 states and found among 18 to 39 year olds most don't know when eons of jews were murdered by the nazis almost hoff couldn't name a single concentration camp but most troubling of all 11 percent blamed the jews themselves for the holocaust of the majority of those surveyed did agree it was important to learn about the holocaust was short never happened again and the holocaust education should be compulsory in the schools that we spoke to people in new york what they did about their history classes. believe me couple 1000000000. people died i thought it was 3000000 i believe. that. 6 people. the exact number but. i'm. pretty big game it's weird like now it's kind of like there's a conspiracy theorists that think like. according to the people behind the survey

the nazis and their collaborators set up over 40000 concentration camps and ghetto during world war 2 and auschwitz alone almost a 1000000 jews were murdered 2 thirds of europe's jews were killed holocaust expert marc shulman says the u.s. education system is failing students the reality is the american americans generally american youth or young people in particular are ignorant about history and they get too much of their information from social media and that social media is full of holocaust deniers claim we get never happened saying the jews caused it and that's a general problem that exists with social media but generally it starts from the fact they just do not know history they take perfunctory history classes in high school you know the average history teacher is called now called him mr history or history person or so he's called coach because most history teachers in the united states have to coach a team and that's their primary responsibility is to coach basketball soccer

whatever it might be and 2nd there they teach history and that's the reality of a history of the united states it's a national problem because it's impossible for people in my opinion to make political choices if they don't understand history and what came before that and what one of the causes of events but again it's not only the holocaust it's of course the american revolution the cold war make you bet that if you asked people what the battle of stalingrad was in the united states these same kids about you know more than 5 percent would be able to answer that question in any sort of relative. sensible way. just a few hours time the 2 men are back in half an hour with the latest news updates join us again that. yes everybody's just lining everybody cooperations are gaslighting you central

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