as we must talk about the lockdown in israel perhaps the 1st 2nd lockdown in the world your prime minister netanyahu saying that your country is on the edge of an abyss what do you make of the situation i mean major critique of of the prime minister's policies on this issue we have went through the 1st 2 a very effectively but then. we gave our self a pose for half a year and nothing had been done to improve the capacity double probably the capacity of those. and to deploy them urgency plan of israel which is there for all for 13 years now emergency plan for a wall and made jaw or a pandemic and instead of implementing these. emergency plan the prime minister chose to loosen all the all the constraints and now we are paying the price for. the chances of these down to very low.

economic oh i see the suffering of millions of people it is a devastating. it's still not too late to do the right things but they need political will and the capacity to make decisions namely to concentrate on the place where there are ups and these really hot it made me out of a concentration in their own throat to go concentration and manage it in a way that will minimize the damage to economy in fact for. old people while. empowering the healthy thing this is not done so i am very critical and i think that it's a major failure of that and the oh well he won you lost in the end actions and netanyahu supporters would say not only has he secured massive us subsidy to israel a $142000000000.00 to 2019 but we more

coronavirus later on he secured this so-called abraham accords with some arab or talk or sees he's secured the moving of the us embassy to jerusalem something you strongly supports sour grapes for you on this look here deception achievement i'm glad the. went out of the closure to no it did to foam allies relationship with us and i hope that others will follow it positive development. of course it's not a we have peace it's not a major breakthrough we know these people for 25 years. and we have a very very intense even relationship with them on many of enough but still it's good news to see them away to to meet with us in public after the chief and his way

of moving go from buffy both of those former television to jill's it is also welcomed here but nothing can cover these major kolo thought. defeat by the corner viable from the one hand and the damage to economy which goes now about to well for 17 percent of g.d.p. and our grand gunned children will have to pay for weight in the future there may be back in full. and not to mention that he loses the last of the people because he cannot give a personality sample or need for really concentrated on the series of. quote cases about corruption well obviously he denies corruption even though he's been indicted for it and as for this is an abraham accords you claim they're not some of the greatest developments in the middle east will donald trump seeking election

in november says their huge step forward what do you mean there have been relations before between israel and the united arab emirates and bahrain the u.a.e. didn't recognize israel they would raise the word israel from atlases in libraries in dubai i happen to be many still far foreign affairs of 25 years ago and i met with the bus. in sherman hundreds of pieces of president mubarak at the time we met several times with abdullah bit they. was over there were on the south lawn of the white house the reason ateneo hill a ship between israeli b.'s and cs a relationship between our governments i was there for some 20 years and they're still i do not deny it's very positive development that they are now ready to sign a more formal agreement with south and open embassy than normalization debt good

good news for the middle east it's a blow to the palestinians but i hope that we'll find a way to make it. so also. paid with full the prospect of his you or me contacts with the palestinians not the other wife not a load bloke to bed with the palestinians i should say the contemporary leaders have met with israeli leaders they certainly don't recognize israel diplomatically you mention the palestinians they completely reject the abraham accords and the deal of the century coming out of the white house is it worse now than it ever has been since camp david and biffle for the palestinians i hope not you know it showed the world awakening full form this blind hatred toward israel and leader throw their due to standing in front of their own publics and tell them if

there is a no modern state we have to have a relationship with them that's very positive and tells the palestinian or shows them that they were action which is all for negotiation and. cawnpore my view is not now go for it till. it is determined to fight their own whatever it takes and we do whatever the means but that the same time i strongly believe that 2 state solution is the only solution. and i already stated many times that even if we take $515.00 or 50 years after camp david when a breakthrough will be achieved you will need magnifying glass to feed the differences between what was on the table to camp david what will be agreed and hamas in gaza completely rejects this deal of the century what do you think they're going to do next i understand that obviously israel was financing hamas you'd know that israeli ambassador moshi iran's he knew you when you were deputy i.d.f.

chief what has happened with hamas from israeli financing to hamas now. leading the struggle some palestinians would say against illegal israeli occupation you know we cannot replace the palestinians it's somehow to happened that we we were ready to go ahead to do even though we dismantled israeli settlements in gaza i pulled out every israeli settler also and looked forward to cope with a deal with the palestinian. authority and then the. themes then they accumulate to me 2nd look at the cover i feel for israel and wait now. flow may every every several years where. clash with them for some

time and then. fall for some time with small exchanges or clashes it's not good but it's up there with the palestinians the opportunities there we are ready to concede support the infrastructure as long as it doesn't go in a day where. we allow the qataris bait mainly the qataris to help them financially and it. up to the palestinian people we never settled with their will we will never accept always something acceptable and we are strong enough to fight it but i think that the the a berm accords should tell the palestinians that the time poor billy had come to have a 2nd sort about the old paradigm developing and to our right to come to terms to israel it would be better for them and i cannot deny tibet of it well i don't need

to remind he's a gross human rights violations by israel when you are in leadership positions whether in the army or in the political as a political leader i should just ask you why did you finance some ice in the 1st place you're saying you're against terrorism but why was i must mean financed by israel anyway no we are not financing from us we just we allowed the qataris to finance them and we of course because we supply the electricity all we cannot afford in our neighbors a major humanitarian crises we image we don't have. big gardens and say we have the cool weather and we've come us with their political leaders and in government they leave 2000000 people which have day rights to have no my life. suffering because of their own leadership and we are ready to put an end to it but

it's not up to us it's up to the. well israel has financed hamas israel's ambassador to washington moshe rounds the deputy actually back then in back then was netanyahu himself brigadier general hugh tex again israel's military governor of gaza claimed that israel finances hamas what i'm trying to get to as to the relevance today is is israel financing islam ists terrorism throughout the middle east we saw netanyahu accused of supporting isis diane in syria against president assad we even know about israel's role with iran in the iran contra scandal why does israel support islam is violence. i think that you are totally longview you mentioned the shower and anthony oh it is deputy it was so 2 years ago failed to you to go a generation ago. are we involved in. directly

in. contrast. mao denial of vote and we see in iran post khomeini iran. not in. any terrible israeli probably de most determined state in fighting against their will i mean israel obviously was part of the iran contra deal allowing weapons to be exported to iran and as you say these are historical details but how many years ago but how many is it hurted how many years ago did netanyahu meet with a legit isis diasur al qaeda sympathizers in the nato back to war against president assad of syria. i should admit they don't understand the open fictional story we are talking we are facing major injuries right now and you are talking about.

chip and pull over to you describe in them where i waited to give you the credit but these are the events from phil to you the gold dotel you there live on the water now in the middle east full of promise i'll still be there more from israel's former prime minister and defense minister after this break. thanks guys or financial survival. when customers go by to reduce the price. in health well reducing lower. that's undercutting but what's good for market is not good for the global economy. cash calendar is downright alfonzo among his darned this change can take change dard.

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welcome back i'm still here with the 10th prime minister of israel ehud barak president rouhani of iran claims that there are forces supporting islam mystic stream ism he obviously said the united states but he also says israel has been supporting that and many believe the abraham record accords on the preamble to a war on iraq i i would not take a president or honey or was going to where the judge for these of these metro as a kind of phony lie have been this whole series of information about to live in soft iran is a totally biased and. there's no basis for eat and the album said called

could be described as a defensive step against iranian expansion east. regional intentions but not as they put the. kind of face creep for fall of friends of friends of steps against iran iran of course denies it has any regional ambitions did you support donald trump's assassination of general qassam sulaimani the iranian general who up until recently had been working with u.s. troops to defeat isis diane syria it's an american operation it's up to them i respect their right to ect upon do judgment. over there into s.t. into fighting against. global terror all and if you ask me where do the world is a little bit safer place after suliman leave now to his arse i would tell you yes

my answer is affirmative. general sunni money was working with united states troops against isis day yes netanyahu is pictured with islam ists who links to isis. newness in the b.b.c. here in britain found out that british support was ending up with islam ists in syria what i'm getting at is where is the support for islam is coming from in your region you know i don't know you and never met you but i can tell you judging from your question you have. a huge misperception of what willy happens in the middle east and i'm that true to what extent it could be of value have been interviewed we continue to have to listen to your claims which i found totally disconnected from reality even here all day with their names and they vent

your mention probably had happened i'm not sure of this give believe iran a bluffing about retaliation for the assassination of customs and their money i don't see a value for continue to continue these we owe you know your right to free the situation or the perception of the viewers of the situation upon your old grudge meant and to ask me just to give a more kind of what if you cation to it i do not accept your framing so i don't think that there is any value to continue doing of it but all i was asking about was how big is the iranian threat to israel now that the united states assassinated one of their top generals i think that my english is not as good as yours but in plain english and very clear i don't believe it did do either

way to go. didn't you interview where in your own question you're too white to put an ansel. i am used to totally different interviews than i with all due respect i will ask you in this interview will i have to ask you i mean i'm talking about regional security and the threats to israel you did want to be prime minister of israel up until a few months ago i'm asking you about how secure israel is given the abraham accords given the assassination of because i'm still a money given the u.a.e. and bahrain becoming friends with israel you know i repeat it always with all due respect you have your opinion you have don't like where i'm asking for your idea we're in the o.t. for the brain and i know it's going to i don't understand no no you don't ask my

opinion i must go and ask for my you don't ask for my answers you discuss. form of a minister to respect my you white to fully uncertain your questions i'm asking for your opinion about when israel situation deeply embedded deeply deeply embedded in your ego or pinions you have your wife or having your opinions but i am not i do not intend to cooperate or collaborate with this and thank you i really thank you very much for your the opportunity to talk to you but i think these. days i'm not sure why. we came to it in. former israeli prime minister ehud barak decided to end the interview there well joining me now for more is the editor in chief of the

jerusalem post jack of cats check of thanks for coming back on. just poke to former prime minister barak before he left is a shadow strike do you think being prepared on iran like the one you wrote about on syria when barak was defense minister well i think that israel is always preparing for. military action against iran's nuclear facilities there's no doubt that if you were 20000 you. would pose a threat of an extensional nature to the fact that i told this don't hate your readiness or or desire 20 equate this are off the map so israel would have to have that capability in place but i don't think we're there yet because i suppose the context of why iran might want to retaliate is assassination cause i'm still a money they may ram accords all manner of different geopolitical developments obviously

iran denies any military nuclear capability do you think and i know you've been really critical of netanyahu he's actually become quite a good prime minister in your country he's succeeding in getting us support for the arguably alleged violations of international law many resolutions he succeeded in getting golan israeli the embassy to jerusalem the j. c.p.o. way and massive subsidy from the u.s. to tackle covered a virus. well i think that there are treatments and the arms i think that there is the nuts and you know it was the statesman and you know it was diplomat and you know who knows how to work very well with other countries around the world and especially has cultivated particularly close ties and if special relationship an alliance with the current u.s. president donald trump and as a result has been able to achieve for israel a long list as some of them you mentioned strategic benefits i would say for israel but then there's another nixon you know the one who are more critical of who is i

find to be a bit of a divisive politician i find his rhetoric to be sometimes anti-democratic i find some moves that he's made and the knesset israel's parliament against the attorney general against our courts against the judicial system and principally and most recently it is management of the coronavirus crisis in this country has been a complete failure sadly i say that and i wonder at times if it's not as a result of the fact that the prime minister is very preoccupied with his own trial that is about to restart in january we'll see him sitting inside a courtroom 3 days a week for hours on end that is something that he definitely doesn't want to be it but this is a situation that needs a full time prime minister who's completely focused on the health and welfare of his citizens and i don't think that israel has that. always in then you know denies the corruption charges he also deny that he's handled coronavirus pull income come

given your editorials they in the you accuse netanyahu of wanting total chaos you sound like an iranian politician in some of your editorial for the jury surely that's a that's a bit of a stretch i don't think i'm an arabian politician i think that what i'm doing and aren't tauriel what we're doing is we are holding what journalism is meant to be journalism is meant to be a watchdog for democracy that the real issue at. and you just have to look at the numbers right and you know they pretty much speak for itself israel today has a heist actually recruit after much from a country that appeared in the 1st week i respect march and april very tough luck i should say one of the highest it's not the highest more seriously is or went from a country to do very well the 1st rate for a country and now it's locking down the 1st western countries locking down its just for a 2nd time with draconian measures economy again which is already predicted by the

o.e.c.d. to be taking a 6 percent drop after years of growth is going to continue more businesses will close down more people get sick where people sadly die this is not good management well you have a death rate in israel which is better to capital than the one here in britain i should add and i suppose some might ask you to me more patriotic of course you gave a very good defense of what journalists supposed to do that but i think one element to the abraham. accords is palestinians have nowhere to go now they've called it a stab in the back from the u.a.e. and bahrain what's your view as to whether saudi arabia was basically behind this deal involving theoretically trump netanyahu with bahrain in the u.a.e. . well i mean he threw a lot out of me right there so the let me just say firstly about the saudis

involvement with the u.a.e. it seemed that they might have had a hand in it because it would be difficult to see the crown prince of the united arab emirates come and didn't say i make a move this kind without the crown prince's approval from saudi arabia and yes let me just say about the palestinians for a moment in my personal opinion israel now should be reaching out to the palestinians because we're reaching out from points of strength sadly there intransigent they're stuck in their old ways they're they're missing another they don't miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity as op even our famous diplomat once said many years ago but still pertinent today with regard to the palestinians but i would hope that maybe they'll come around to it and i hope that maybe through the arab world the palestinians will recognize that now is actually the time to come back to the table to negotiate to try to reach a deal with israel where we're going to speak about him as a london on wednesday as program we invite the iranian you a bastard to deny the saudi a dictatorial power that you just allege that and what i think i'm getting at is

and i should tell you the palestinians have no interest whatsoever in fairness to israel israel has sought opinion from palestine is clearly no happening. it's not happening but i think that you know the palestinians have to be decision what it is that exact rights israel has always said the door negotiations israel was the one that embraced peace for prosperity clamp donald trump and built a general which calls for a 2 state solution this is a perfect opportunity for the palestinians there get an extension off the table israel if he embraced a 2 state solution let's come let's start talking but they're not there given the amount of un resolutions violated by the treaties you mention there i have to ask you though and i asked prime former prime minister barak about previous israeli financing for hamas hamas presumably seeking other people to get money from as it rules in the gaza strip iran its general because i'm still

a money has asked me to buy donald trump you don't see any existential crisis that israel now faces because of the abraham accords and the actions of all trump. it's essential crisis on the contrary i think with the abraham accords and with the targeted killing of that qassam tsunami has done has made the world a safer place or because i'm still the man it was a terrorist who was responsible for generating the largest terrorist attacks most terrorism not just against israel but against great britain the country your ballot he did work with is against the united states against countries in europe taking him off the map and removing him makes the world a better place undermines you hons capability to entrench insult further in syria and to continue to build up his block about and just about the interim courts what they have done when it comes to extension threat you mention is that is they created a larger plot that can take out or the uranium threat that's against israel against the stability of the middle east forum for too long people have said that israel

and the palestinians are the source of instability in the sources and that conflict is what everyone today not recognizing abraham courts is part of that new news for the world israel is a pillar of stability if you have courts in trenches that simply because those arab states which refused until it's recognize israel are now because they understand that working with israel will keep them safer against the true threats which is the iranians yack of cats thank you thank you very much that's it for the show make sure to join us but do on wednesday when we hear other sides of the story but even the palestinian ambassador to the u.k. was i'm zone lot until that subscribe to watch out on you tube and join the other guy by following us wanted a facebook instagram sent by. yes

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