i suppose we must talk about the lockdown in israel perhaps the 1st 2nd look down in the world your prime minister netanyahu saying that your country is on the edge of an abyss what do you make of the situation every major critic of of the prime minister's polices on this issue we have went through the 1st 2 a very effectively but then. we gave our self a pose for half a year and nothing had been done to improve the capacity the double probably the capacity of those. and to deploy them militants the plan of israel which is there for all for 13 years now emergency plan for a wall and made joe quake or a pandemic and instead of implementing these. emergency plan the prime minister chose to loosen all the all the constraints and now we are paying the price for. the chances of these down to very low.

economic oh i see the suffering of millions of people it is devastating. it's still not too late to do the right things but they need political will and the capacity to make decisions namely to concentrate on the place where there are ups and he's really hot it made me out of a concentration in they all told to go concentration and manage it in a way that will minimize the damage to economy and for old people while empowering the healthiest and this is not down so i'm very critical and i think that it's a major failure of that and the oh well he won you lost in the end actions and netanyahu supporters would say not only has he secured massive us subsidy to israel a 142 $1000000000.00 to 2019 but we more

coronavirus later on he secured this so-called abraham accords with some arab or talk or sees he's secured the moving of the us embassy to jerusalem something you strongly supports sour grapes for you on this look here deception achievement i'm glad to see emulates and behind. went out of the closure to no it did to foam allies relationship with us and i hope that others will follow it positive development. of course it's not a we have peace it's not a major breakthrough we know these people for 25 years. and we have a very very. tense even relationship with them on many of enough but still it's good news to go see them away to to meet with us in public after the chief winters

way of moving go from buffy and both of those form tel aviv to children is also welcomed here but nothing can cover these major oh colo cell. defeat by the corner viable from the one hand and the damage to economy which goes now about to well for 17 percent of g.d.p. and our grand gunned children will have to pay for weight in a future that i'm a joe the bucket full. and not to mention that he loses the last of the people because he cannot give a personality sample or need for really concentrated on the series of. quote cases about corruption well obviously he denies corruption even though he's been indicted for it and as for these abraham accords you claim then not some of the greatest developments in the middle east will donald trump seeking

election in november says they're huge step forward what do you mean there have been relations before between israel and the united arab emirates and bahrain the u.a.e. didn't recognize israel they would raise the word israel from atlases in libraries in dubai i happen to be many still far foreign affairs of were 25 years ago and i met with the bus. in sherman hundreds of pieces of president mubarak at the time we met several times with abdullah bit they. was over there on the south lawn of the white house reason ateneo heal a ship between israeli business sees a relationship between our governments i was there for some 20 years and they're still i do not deny it's very positive development that they're now ready to sign more formal agreement with south and open embassy than normalization debt good good

news for the middle east it's a blow to the palestinians but i hope that we'll find a way to make it. so. paid with full the prospect of. contact with the palestinians not the other wife not the old bloke to be with the palestinians i should say the leaders of met with israeli leaders they certainly don't recognize israel diplomatically you mention the palestinians they completely reject the abraham accords and the deal of the century coming out of the white house is it worse now than it ever has been since camp david and biffle for the palestinians i hope not you know it showed the world the awakening full form this blind hatred. and lead a far away do to stand in front of their own publics and tell them if there is an

old model state we have to have a relationship with them that's very even it tells the palestinian or shows them that they were action which is all for our negotiations and. for my view not not go for it oh if he's determined to fight though whatever he takes and we do whatever means but then the same time i strongly believe that 2 state solution is the only solution and i already stated many times that even if we take $515.00 or 50 of the after camp david where a breakthrough will be achieved you will need magnifying glass to feed the differences between what was on the table the camp david what will be agreed to hamas in gaza completely rejects this deal of the century what do you think they're going to do next i understand that obviously israel was financing hamas you'd know that israel am best moshi iran's he knew you when you were deputy i.d.f.

chief what has happened with hamas from israeli financing to hamas now. lead. the struggle some palestinians would say against illegal israeli occupation you know we cannot replace the palestinians it's somehow we to help and that we we were ready to go ahead to even though we dismantled israeli settlements in gaza and pulled out every israeli settler or soldier and looked forward to cope with a deal with the palestinian. authority and then the amassed took over and since then they accumulate to me look at which cover half of israel wide now. follow me every every several years where. a higher profile clash with them for some time and then. fall for some time with

small exchanges or clashes it's not good but it's up to the palestinians the opportunities there we are ready to concede support the infrastructure as long as it doesn't go and. we allow the qataris bait mainly the qataris to help them financially and it up to the palestinian people we will never settle and we still we will never accept always something acceptable and we are strong enough to fight it but i think that the the a berm accords showed tells the palestinians that the time poor billy had come to have a 2nd sort about the whole paradigm to developing and to i to come to terms to israel it would be better for them and i cannot deny tibet of. well i don't need to remind

you the gross human rights violations by israel when you were in leadership positions whether in the army or in the political as a political leader i should just ask you know why did you finance a mass in the 1st place you're saying you're against terrorism but why was i must being financed by israel anyway no we are not financing from us we just we allowed the qataris to finance them and we of course because we supplied the electricity all we cannot afford it in our neighborhood a major humanitarian crises we. we don't have. big gardens in faith we have the cool weather and we've come us with their political leaders and in god they leave 2000000 people with their rights to have know my life. suffering because of their own leadership and we are ready to put an end to it but it's not up to us

it's up to the. well israel has financed hamas israel's ambassador to washington moshe rounds the deputy actually back then in back then was netanyahu himself brigadier general hugh tex again israel's military governor of gaza claimed that israel finances hamas what i'm trying to get to as to the relevance today is is israel financing islam ists terrorism throughout the middle east we saw netanyahu accused of supporting isis diane in syria against president assad we even know about israel's role with iran in the iran contra scandal why does israel support islam is violence. i think that you are totally longview you mentioned the shower an attorney out of his deputy it was so 2 years ago fell to you to go a generation ago. are we involved in.

directly in. contrast. marginal of vote and we see in iran post khomeini iran why we're not. encouraged any tell all israelis probably de most determined state in fighting against their will i mean israel obviously was part of the iran contra deal allowing weapons to be exported to iran and as you say these are historical details but how many years ago but how many is it hurted how many years ago did netanyahu meet with a legit isis diasur al qaeda sympathizers in the nato back to war against president assad of syria. i should admit they don't understand the open fictional fi story we are talking we are facing major injuries right now and you are talking about.

i will give you that but these events do you go totally. now in the middle east full of promise i'll still be them all from israel's former prime minister and defense minister after this break. wall street financial engineers the kleptocrats divert the money printing into their pockets at a rate that according to the rand corporation equals more than $50.00 trillion dollars so that is your smoking gun that's why we have social unrest that's why we have incredible wealth and income gap that's why we have such a distorted economy that's why wages are not keeping up that's why we've got

inflation ranging that's a smoking gun in the story. welcome

back i'm still here with the 10th prime minister of israel ehud barak president rouhani of iran claims that there are forces supporting islam mystic stream ism he obviously said the united states but he also says israel has been supporting that and many believe the abraham record accords in the preamble to a war on iraq i would not take a president or honey or was going to make the job for these of these metro as a kind of phony live in this whole series of information about to live in soft iran is it totally biased and. there's no basis for eat and. called could be described as a defensive step against iranian expansion east. region ali tension but not as

a pretty. kind of face creep for a friend or friends if steps against iran iran of course denies it has any regional ambitions did you support donald trump's assassination of general qassam sunni money the iranian general who up until recently had been working with u.s. troops to defeat isis diane syria it's an american operation it's up to day i'm only spec do i store ect upon do judgement. over there into s.t. into fighting against. global terror all and if you ask me where do the world is a little bit safer place after suliman leave now to ease our thought i would tell you yes my answer. affirmative general sulaimani was working with united states

troops against isis day yes netanyahu is pictured with islam ists who links to isis . newness in the b.b.c. here in britain found out that british support was ending up with islam ists in syria what i'm getting at is where is the support for islam is coming from in your region you know i don't know you and never met you but i can tell you judging from your question you have. a huge misperception of what will be happens in the middle east and i'm that true to what extent it could be of value have been interviewed we continue to have to listen to your claims which i found totally disconnected from reality even here all day of the names and they vent you have mentioned probably had happened i'm not sure of this give believe iran

a bluffing about retaliation for the assassination of customs and their money i don't see a value for continue to continue these we owe you know your right to free the situation or the perception of the viewers of the situation upon your judgment and to ask me just to give more kind of modification to it i do not accept your framing so i don't think that there is any value to continue doing 3 of it but all i was asking about was how big is the iranian threat to israel now that the united states assassinated one of their top generals i think that my english is not as good as yours but in plain english and very clear i don't believe it did. way to continue an interview where in your own question you're too white to put in i'm so. i'm

used to totally different interviews than i with all due respect i will ask you to end this interview will i have to ask you i mean i'm talking about regional security and the threats to israel you did want to be prime minister of israel up until a few months ago i'm asking you about how secure israel is given the abraham accords given the assassination of kusum still a money given the u.a.e. and bahrain becoming friends with israel you know i repeat it always with all due respect you have your opinion you have don't like where am i asking for your opinion idea we're in the old friend and i know it's going to i don't understand no no you don't ask my opinion i must go and ask for my you don't ask for my.

you discuss. form of a minister i think respect for my white to fully uncertain your questions i'm asking for your opinion about where israel situation a deeply embedded deeply deeply embedded in the open old or pinions you have your wife or having your opinions but i am not i do not intend to cooperate or collaborate with this and thank you i really thank you very much for your the opportunity to talk to you but i think these. days i'm not sure why your came to it in. former israeli prime minister ehud barak decided to end the interview there well joining me now for more is the editor in chief of the jerusalem post jack of cats heck of thanks for. coming back on we just spoke to former prime minister barak

before he left is a shadow strike do you think being prepared on iran like the one you wrote about on syria when barak was defense minister well i think that israel is always preparing for. military action against iran's nuclear facilities there's no doubt that if you were 20000 you. would pose a threat of an extension of nature to the fact i told this don't hate your readiness or or desire to win the white this are off the map so israel would have to have the capability in place but i don't think we're there yet because i suppose the context of why iran might want to retaliate is assassination because i'm still a mommy abraham accords all manner of different geopolitical developments obviously iran denies any military nuclear capability do you think and i know you've been

really critical of netanyahu he's actually become quite a good prime minister in your country he's succeeding in getting us support for the arguably alleged violations of international law many resolutions he succeeded in getting golan israeli the embassy to jerusalem the j. c.p.o. way and massive subsidy from the us to tackle covered a virus. well i think that there are treatments and the ups i think that there is the new 10 you know it was the statesman and you know it was diplomat and you know who knows how to work very well with other countries around the world and especially has cultivated particularly close ties and if special relationship an alliance with the current u.s. president donald trump and as a result has been able to achieve for israel a long list as some of them you mentioned strategic benefits i would say for israel but then there's another nixon you know the one who i'm more critical of who is i find to be a bit of a divisive politician i find his rhetoric to be sometimes anti-democratic i find

some moves that he's made and the knesset israel's parliament against the attorney general against our courts against the judicial system and principally and most recently has management of the coronavirus crisis in this country has been a complete failure sadly i say that and i wonder at times if it's not as a result of the fact that the prime minister is very preoccupied with his own trial that is about to restart in january we'll see him sitting inside a courtroom 3 days a week for hours on end that is something that he definitely doesn't want be it but this is a situation that needs a full time prime minister who's completely focused on the health and welfare of his citizens and i don't think that israel has that. always and then you know denies the corruption charges he also deny that he's handled coronavirus pull income come given your editorials they know you've accuse netanyahu of wanting

total chaos you sound like an iranian politician in some of your editorial for the jury surely that's a that's a bit of a stretch i don't think i'm a reagan politician i think that what i'm doing and aren't tauriel what we're doing is we are holding what journalism is meant to be journalism is meant to be a watchdog for democracy that the real issue at. and you just have to look at the numbers right and you know they pretty much speak for itself israel today has a heist an actual rate per capita much from a country that appeared in the 1st week i respect march and april very tough luck i should say one of the highest it's not the highest more seriously is or one from a country that did very well the 1st way through country and now it's locking down the 1st western countries locking down its just for a 2nd time with with draconian measures economy again which is already predicted by the o.e.c.d. to be taking a 6 percent drop after years of growth is going to continue more businesses will

close down more people get sick where people sadly die this is not good management well you have a death rate in israel which is better but capita than the one here in britain i should add and i suppose some might ask you to me more patriotic of course you gave a very good defense of what journalism supposed to do that but i think one element to the khaybar have. courts is palestinians have nowhere to go now they've called it a stab in the back from the u.a.e. and bahrain what's your view as to whether saudi arabia was basically behind this deal involving theoretically trump netanyahu with bahrain in the u.a.e. . well i mean he threw a lot out of me right there so the let me just say firstly about the saudis involvement with the u.a.e. it seemed that they might have had a hand in it because it would be difficult to see the crown prince of the united

arab emirates mohamed bin say i make a move this kind without the crown prince's approval from saudi arabia and yes let me just say about the palestinians for a moment in my personal opinion israel now should be reaching out to the palestinians because we're reaching out from point to strength sadly there intransigent they're stuck in their old ways they're they're missing another they don't miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. sabi you can are famous diplomat once said many years ago still. used but i would hope that maybe they'll come around to it and i hope maybe through the arab world the palestinians will recognize that now is actually the time to come back to the table to negotiate try to reach a deal with israel or we're going to speak about him as london on wednesday his program we invite the iranian you a bastard to deny the saudi a dictatorial power that you just allege that and what i think i'm getting at is and i should tell you the palestinians have no interest whatsoever in fairness to

israel israel has sought opinion from palestine is clearly not happening. it's not happening but i think that you know the palestinians have to be a decision what it is that the exact rights israel has always said the door negotiations israel was the one that embraced peace for prosperity clamp built in general which calls for a 2 state solution this is a perfect opportunity for the palestinians there get an extension off the table israel has he embraced a 2 state solution let's come let's start talking but they're not there given the amount of un resolutions violated by the treaties you mention there i have to ask you though and i asked prime former prime minister barak about previous israeli financing for hamas hamas presumably seeking other people to get money from as it rules in the gaza strip iran its general custom silly money has asked unaided by donald trump you don't see any existential crisis that israel now faces because

of the abraham accords and the actions of all trump. this is a crisis on the contrary i think with the abraham accords and with the targeted killing of that customs who money has done is made the world a safer place or a cousin to the money was a terrorist who was responsible for generating the largest terrorist attacks the most terrorism not just against israel against great britain the country you're better than he did work which is against the united states against countries in europe taking him off the map and removing him makes the world a better place undermines you hons capability to entrench and so further in syria and to continue to build up his butt about and just about the abraham courts what they have done when it comes the extensional threat you mention is that is they've created a larger plot that can take counter the u.n. and threats against israel and against the stability of the middle east from for too long people have said that israel and the palestinians a source of instability in the source of and that conflict is what's everyone today

not recognize neighbor and courts is part of that new news for the world israel is a pillar of stability if you have courts and trenches that simply because those arab states which refused until now to recognize israel are now because they understand that working with israel will keep them safer against the true threats which is the iranians. yes thank you thank you for that's it for the show make sure to join us fudge on wednesday when we hear other sides of the story including from the palestinian ambassador to the u.k. which i'm solo of until that subscribe to watch out will you do enjoy the undergrowth following us culture to facebook instagram the 2nd. time after time corporations repeat the same mantra sustainability it's very

important to accelerate transitions to sustainable transport sustainability stay in her manner more equitable and sustainable well. they claim their production is completely hama's. it. companies want us to feel good about buying their products while the damage is being done far away and this is something this must be done even as i made much of . this is the move in unison we didn't do any minimum. understood with superman and. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy to go in for the duration let it be an arms race is on off and spearing dramatic development only mostly i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful

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