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effectively but then. we gave our self a pose for half a year and nothing had been done to improve the capacity double probably the capacity of those. and to deploy them urgency plan of israel which is therefore for 13 years now emergency plan for a war may jaw else quake or a pandemic and instead of implementing these. emergency plan the prime minister chose to loosen all the all the constraints and now we are paying the price for it the chances of these locked down to very low and the economic oh i see the suffering of millions of people is a devastating. it's still not too late to do the right things but they need political will and the capacity to make decisions namely to concentrate on the place where there are ups and these really hot it made me out of
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a concentration in their own throat to go concentration and manage it in a way that will minimize the damage to economy in fact for. old people while. empowering the healthy thing this is not done so i am very critical and i think that it's a major failure of that and the oh well he won you lost in the end actions and netanyahu supporters would say not only has he secured massive us subsidy to israel a $142000000000.00 to be true to 2019 but we more coronavirus later on he secured this so-called abraham accords with some arab or talk or sees he's secured the moving of the us embassy to jerusalem something you strongly supports sour grapes for you on this look here deception achievement i'm
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glad that the emirates and before. went out of the closure to no it did to foam allies relationship with us and i hope that others will follow it positive development. of course it's not a we have peace it's not a major breakthrough we know these people for 25 years. and we have a very very tense even relationship with them on many of enough but still it's good news to see them away due to meet with us in public after the chief and his way of moving go from buffy and buffet goals for television to children is also welcomed here but nothing can cover these major kolo cell. defeat by the corner viable from one hand and the damage to economy which goes now about to well for 17 percent of g.d.p.
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and our grand gunned children will have to pay for weight in a future that i'm a joe the bucket full. and not to mention that he loses the last of the people because he cannot give a personality sample or need for really concentrated on the series of. cold cases about corruption well obviously he denies corruption even though he's been indicted for it and as for this is an abraham accords you claim then not some of the greatest developments in the middle east will donald trump seeking election in november says they're huge step forward what do you mean they're being relations before between israel and the united arab emirates and bahrain the u.a.e. didn't recognize israel they would raise the word israel from atlases in libraries in dubai i happen to be many still far foreign affairs of is where 25 years ago and
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i met with the bus. in sherman hundreds of pieces of president mubarak at that time we met several times with abdullah bit they. was over there on the south lawn of the white house reason ateneo heal a ship between israeli bees and see the relationship between our governments i was there for some 20 years and they still i do not deny it's very positive development that they are now ready to sign a more formal agreement with south and open embassy than normalization debt good good news for the middle east it's a blow to the palestinians but i hope that we'll find a way to make it. so also. paid with full the prospect of. contacts with the palestinians not the other wife not old bloke to be with the palestinians
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i should say the leaders have met with israeli leaders they certainly don't recognize israel diplomatically you mention the palestinians they completely reject the abraham accords and the deal of the century coming out of the white house is it worse now than it ever has been since camp david and before for the palestinians i hope not you know it showed the world out a way can you go forward from this blind hatred. and lead a far away do to stand in front of their own publics and tell them if there is an old model state we have to have a relationship with them that's very positive and he tells the palestinian or shows them that they were action which is all for negotiation and. cawnpore my view is not not go for it oh if he's determined to fight there or whatever he takes and with whatever means but then the same time i strongly believe that 2 state solution
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is the only solution and i already stated many times that even if we take $515.00 or 50 years after camp david when a breakthrough will be achieved you will need magnifying glass to feed the differences between what was on the table the camp david what will be agreed in hamas in gaza completely rejects this deal of the century what do you think they're going to do next i understand that obviously israel was financing hamas you'd know that israel am best moshi iran's he knew you when you were deputy i.d.f. chief what has happened with hamas from israeli financing to hamas now. leading the struggle some palestinians would say against illegal israeli occupation you know we cannot replace the palestinians it's somehow to happened that we we
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were ready to go ahead to do even though we dismantled israeli settlements in gaza i pulled out every israeli settler also and looked forward to cope with a deal with the palestinian. authority and then the. scenes then they accumulate to meet them look at the cover half of israel wait now. flow may every every several years. clash with them for some time and then. fall forward some time with small exchanges or clashes it's not good but it's up there with the palestinians the opportunities there we are ready to concede the. support the infrastructure as long as it doesn't go in the day where. we allow the qataris bait mainly the qataris to
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help them financially and it's up to the palestinian people we never settled with their will we will never accept always something acceptable and we are strong enough to fight it but i think that the the a berm accords should tell the palestinians that the time poor billy had come to have a 2nd sort about the old paradigm developing and to our right to come to terms to israel it would be better for them and i cannot deny it's better for it well i don't need to remind he's a gross human rights violations by israel when you are in leadership positions whether in the army or in the political as a political leader i should just ask you know why did you finance some us in the 1st place you're saying you're against terrorism but why was i must mean financed by israel anyway no we are not financing from us we just we allowed the qataris to
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finance them and we of course because we supply the electricity all we cannot afford it in our neighbors a major humanitarian crises we. we don't have. the gazans say we have the cool weather and we've come us with their political leaders and in government they leave 2000000 people which has their rights to have know my life. suffering because of their own leadership and we are ready to put an end to it but it's not up to us it's up to the. well israel has financed hamas israel's ambassador to washington moshe rounds the deputy actually back then in back then was netanyahu himself brigadier general hugh tex again israel's military governor of gaza claimed that israel finances hamas what i'm trying to get to as to the relevance today is is israel financing islam ists terrorism throughout the middle
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east we saw netanyahu accused of supporting isis diane in syria against president assad we even know about israel's role with iran in the iran contra scandal why does israel support islam is to violence. i think that you are totally longview you mentioned the shower an attorney out of his deputy it was so 2 years ago failed to you to go a generation ago. are we involved in. directly in. contrast. mao denial of vote and we see in iran post khomeini iran. not to. encourage any terrible israeli probably d. most determined state in fighting against i mean israel obviously was part of
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the iran contra deal allowing weapons to be exported to iran and as you say these are historical details but how many years ago but how many is it hurted how many years ago did netanyahu meet with a legit isis diasur al qaeda sympathizers in the nato back to war against president assad of syria. i should admit they don't understand the open fictional fi story we are talking we are facing major injuries right now and you are talking about. where i get to give you that but these only vent to you the gold totally you know i live on the wall paper now in the middle east former prime minister i'll still be them or from israel's former prime minister and defense minister after this break.
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here thank you to all my social class law school class people also in a 1st class if you're born into a poor family if you're born into a minority family if you're born into a family that only has a single parent that really constrains your life chances people die lavish 15 years younger he pointed to generational poverty. it's a tough fight every day to meet your needs and the needs of your family. welcome back i'm still here with a chance prime minister of israel ehud barak president rouhani of iran claims that
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there are forces supporting is the mystic stream is i'm obviously said the united states but he also says israel has been supporting that and many believe the abraham record accords in the preamble to a war on iraq i would not take going to hunt neal was going to make the job for the metro as. i know from the lie have been. told things off information about. is that totally biased and. no basis. the album called could be described as a defensive step against iranian expansion east. regional intentions but not as they put the. kind of face creep for fall of friends of friends of steps against iran iran of course denies it has any regional
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ambitions did you support donald trump's assassination of general custom sunni money the iranian general who up until recently had been working with u.s. troops to defeat isis diane syria it's an american operation it's up to them i respect their right to act upon due judgment. of their interest in their fighting against. global terror all and if you ask me whether the world is a little bit safer place after suliman leave now to ease our thought i would tell you yes my answer affirmative general sulaimani was working with united states troops against isis day as netanyahu is pictured with islam ists who links to isis . newness in the b.b.c. here in britain found out that british support was ending up with islam ists in
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syria what i'm getting at is where is the support for islam is coming from in your region you know i don't know you and never met you but they can tell you judging from your question you have. a huge misperception of what willie happens in the middle east and i'm there truth to what extent it could be of value have been interviewed for we continue to to listen to your claims which i found totally disconnected from reality even. i'm here all day with their names and they vent you have mentioned probably had happened i'm not sure this give believe iran a bluffing about retaliation for the assassination of customs and their money i don't see a value for continue to continue these below you know your right
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to frame the situation or the perception of the viewers of the situation upon your judgment and to ask me just to give more kind of what if occasion to it i do not accept your framing so i don't think that there is any value to continue doing. but all i was asking about was how big is the iranian threat to israel now that the united states assassinated one of their top generals i think that my english is not as good as yours but in plain english and very clear i don't believe you did do a way to continue an interview where in your own question you're too white to put an arm so. i'm used to totally different interviews than i with all due respect i will ask you to end this interview will i have to ask you i mean
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i'm talking about regional security and the threats to israel you didn't want to be prime minister of israel until a few months ago i'm asking you about how secure israel is given the abraham accords given the assassination of cousin fil a money given the u.a.e. and bahrain becoming friends with israel you know i repeat it always with all due respect you have your opinion you have don't like where i know i'm asking for your opinion idea we're in the o.t. for the brain and i know it's going to i. i don't have the thin no no you don't ask my opinion i must gone for my heel gone for my of you discuss. full of a minister. to respect my you white to fully and so your question i'm asking for your opinion about when israel says if intuition deeply embedded
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deeply deeply embedded in the open old or pinions you have yo white for having you know a penis but i am not i do not intend to cope with a boy to have death and thank you i really thank you very much for your help oto needed to talk to you about this i think. i'm not sure why i. came to it in. former israeli prime minister ehud barak decided to end the interview there well joining me now for more is the editor in chief of the jerusalem post jack of cats check of thanks for coming back and we just spoke to former prime minister morocco before he left is a shadow strike do you think being prepared on iran like the one you wrote about on syria when barak was defense minister well i think that israel is always preparing
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for the possibility that there might be military action against iran's nuclear facilities there's no doubt that if you were $20000.00 you. would pose a threat of an extension of nature to the fact that i told this don't hate their readiness or or desire $28.00 this are off the map so israel would have to have that capability in place but i don't think we're there yet because i suppose the context of why iran might want to retaliate is assassination cuz i'm still a money they may ram accords all manner of different geopolitical. development's obviously iran denies any military nuclear capability do you think and i know you've been really critical of netanyahu he's actually become quite a good prime minister in your country he's succeeded in getting us support for the arguably alleged violations of international law many resolutions he succeeded in
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getting gaulin israeli the embassy to jerusalem the j.c.b. away and massive subsidy from the us to tackle coronavirus. well i think that there are treatments and he hopes i think that there is the nuts and you know it was the statesman and you know it was diplomat and you know who knows how to work very well with other countries around the world and especially has cultivated particularly close ties and if special relationship an alliance with the current u.s. president donald trump and as a result has been able to achieve for israel a long list as some of them you mentioned strategic benefits i would say for israel but then there's another nixon you know the one who are more critical of who is i find to be a bit of a divisive politician i find his rhetoric to be sometimes anti-democratic i find some moves that he's made and the knesset israel's parliament against the attorney general against our courts against the judicial system and principally and most
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recently his management of the coronavirus crisis in this country has been a complete failure sadly i say that and i wonder at times if it's not as a result of the fact that the prime minister is very preoccupied with his own trial that is about to restart in january we'll see him sitting inside a courtroom 3 days a week for hours on end that is something that he definitely doesn't want to be it but this is a situation that needs a full time prime minister who's completely focused on the health and welfare of his citizens and i don't think that israel has that. always been then you know denies the corruption charges he also deny that he's handled coronavirus pull income come given your editorials they know you've accuse netanyahu of wanting total chaos you sound like an iranian politician in some of your editorial for the durian post surely that's a that's a bit of a stretch i don't think i'm an arabian politician i think that what i'm doing and
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aren't tauriel what we're doing is we are holding what journalism is meant to be journalism is meant to be a watchdog for democracy that the real issue at. and is you just have to look at the numbers right and you know they pretty much speak for itself israel today has a heist an actual rate per capita much from a country that appeared in the 1st wave i respect in march and april very tough luck i should say one of the highest it's not the highest more seriously is or went from a country to do very well the 1st rate for a country and now is locking down the 1st western countries locking down its just for a 2nd time with with draconian measures economy again which is already predicted by the o.e.c.d. to be taking a 6 percent drop after years of growth is going to continue more businesses will close down more people get sick where people sadly die this is not good management well you have a death rate in israel which is better capita than the one here in britain i should
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add and i suppose some light on us here to me more patriotic of course you gave a very good defense of what journalists as opposed to do that but i think one element to the abraham. accords is palestinians have nowhere to go now they've called it a stab in the back from the u.a.e. and bahrain what's your view as to whether saudi arabia was basically behind this deal involving theoretically trump netanyahu with bahrain in the u.a.e. . well i mean he threw a lot out of me right there so the let me just say firstly about the saudis involvement with the u.a.e. it seemed that they might have had a hand in it because it would be difficult to see the crown prince the united arab emirates commitments i make a move of this kind without the crown prince's approval from saudi arabia and yes let me just say about the palestinians for a moment in my personal opinion israel now should be reaching out to the
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palestinians because we're reaching out from point straight sadly there are intransigent they're stuck in their old ways they're they're missing another they don't miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. began our famous diplomat once said many years ago still per. house but i would hope that maybe they'll come around to it and i hope that maybe through the arab world the palestinians will recognize that now is actually the time to come back to the table to negotiate try to reach a deal with israel or we're going to speak about him as to london on wednesday his program we invite the iranian u.a.e. ambassador to deny the saudi a dictatorial power that you just allege that and what i think i'm getting at is and i should tell you the palestinians have no interest whatsoever in fairness to israel israel has sought opinion from palestine is clearly not happening. it's not happening but i think that you know the palestinians have to be
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a decision what it is that the exact rights israel has always said the door negotiations so that israel was the one that embraced peace for presbytery planned donald trump and built a general which calls for a 2 state solution this is a perfect opportunity for the palestinians there get an extension off the table israel since he embraced it you state solution let's come let's start talking but they're not there given the amount of u.n. resolutions violated by the treaties you mention there i have to ask you though and i asked. former prime minister barak about previous israeli financing for hamas hamas presumably seeking other people to get money from as it rules in the gaza strip iran its general custom silly money has us unaided by donald trump you don't see any existential crisis that israel now faces because of the abraham accords and the actions of the whole trump. it's essential crisis on the contrary i think
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with the abraham accords and with the targeted killing of that customs of money has done is made the world a safer place or a cousin to the money was a terrorist who was responsible for generating the largest terrorist attacks the most terrorism not just against israel but against great britain the country your palate he did work with against the united states against countries in europe taking him off the map and removing him makes the world a better place undermines you hons capability to entrench insult further in syria and to continue to build up his blog about and just about the interim courts what they have done when he comes the extension threat you mention is that is they've created a larger plot that can take counter the uranium threats against israel against the stability in the middle east from for too long people have said that israel and the palestinians are the source of instability and the source of and that conflict is what everyone today not recognizing abraham cortes is part of that new news for the world israel is a pillar of stability it are have courts in trenches that simply because those arab
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states which refused until now to recognize israel are now because they understand that working with israel will keep them safer against the true threats which is the iranians jack of cats thank you thank you very much that's it for the show make sure to join us but to on wednesday when we have other sides of the story but even the palestinian ambassador to the u.k. has imes own lot until that subscribe to watch out on you tube and join the other guy by following us on twitter facebook instagram sent. chose seemed wrong. but old rules just don't. mean you get to shape out just to become educated and engaged with equals betrayal.
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still. understood so when. a military plane crash in eastern ukraine leaves 26 people dead the sole survivor is in a serious but stable condition. hundreds of anti-government protesters once again take to the streets of minutes the 7 arrests already reported the latest demonstration follows alexander lukashenko this week as the better russian president for a 6th term and around grounds america's new sanctions regime against it is medical terrorism the country's foreign minister speaks to our. restrictions prevents us from even transferring money to buy back.
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