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welcomed here but nothing can cover these major colos. defeat by the corner viable from the one hand and the damage to economy which goes now about to well for 17 percent of g.d.p. and our grand gunned children will have to pay for weight in the future that i'm a joe the bucket full. and not to mention that he loses the last of the people because he cannot give a personality sample or need for really concentrated on the series of. quote cases about corruption well obviously he denies corruption even though he's been indicted for it and as for this is an abraham accords you claim then not some of the greatest developments in the middle east will donald trump seeking election in november says their huge step forward what do you mean there have been relations before between israel and the united arab emirates and bahrain the u.a.e.
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didn't recognize israel they would raise the word israel from atlases in libraries in dubai i happen to be many still far foreign affairs of is where 25 years ago and i met with the bus. in sherman hundreds of pieces of president mubarak at the time we met several times with abdullah bin very. was over there were on the south lawn of the white house reason ateneo heal a ship between israeli business easier relationship between our government i was there for some 20 years and there still i do not deny its very positive development that there are now ready to sign more formal agreement with south and open embassy than normalization debt good good news for the middle east it's a blow to the palace. kenyans but i hope that we'd find
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a way to make it. so also fade with full the prospect of. contact with the palestinians not the other wife not old bloke to be with the palestinians i should say the leaders of met with israeli leaders they certainly don't recognize israel diplomatically you mention the palestinians they completely reject the abraham accords and the deal of the century coming out of the white house is it worse now than it ever has been since camp david and biffle for the palestinians i hope not you know it showed the world out a way can you go forward form this blind hatred. and leader to lead you to stand in front of their own publics and tell them if there is an old model state we have to have a relationship with them that's very positive any tells the palestinian or shows
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them that they were action which is negotiation and. compromise if not now go for it oh if he's determined to fight though whatever he takes and we do whatever means but then the same time i strongly believe that 2 state solution is the only solution and i already stated many times that even if we take $515.00 or 50 of the after camp david where a breakthrough will be achieved you will need magnifying glass to feed the differences between what was on the table the camp david what will be agreed to hamas in gaza completely rejects this deal of the century what do you think they're going to do next i understand that obviously israel was financing hamas you should know that israel am best moshi iran's he knew you when you were deputy i.d.f. chief what has happened with hamas. yes from israeli financing to hamas now.
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leading the struggle some palestinians would say against illegal israeli occupation you know we cannot replace the palestinians it's somehow we to help and that we we were ready to go ahead to even though we dismantled israeli settlements in gaza and pulled out every israeli settler or soldier and looked forward to cope with a deal with the palestinian. authority and then the the mass took over and seems then they accumulate to me look at which cover half of israel wide now. follow me every every several years where. a higher profile clash with them for some time and then. fall for some time with small exchanges or clashes it's not good but it's up to the palestinians the
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opportunities there we are ready to concede support the infrastructure as long as it doesn't go and. we allow the qataris bait mainly the qataris to help them financially and it's up to the palestinian people we will never settle with still we will never accept always something acceptable and we are strong enough to fight it but i think that the the a berm accords showed tells the palestinians that the time poor billy had come to have a 2nd sort about the whole paradigm to developing and to i to come to terms to israel it would be better for them and i cannot deny it's better for. well i don't need to remind you the gross human rights violations by israel when you were in leadership positions whether in the army or in the political as
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a political leader i should just ask you though why did you find in some ice in the 1st place you're saying you're against terrorism but why was i must being financed by israel anyway no we are not financing from us we just we allowed the qataris to finance them and we of course because we supplied the electricity all we cannot afford it in our neighborhood a major humanitarian crises we. we don't have. big gardens in faith we have the cool weather and we've come us with their political leaders and in government believe 2000000 people with their rights to have no my life. suffering because of their own leadership and we are ready to put an end to it but it's not up to us it's up to the. well israel has financed hamas israel's ambassador to
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washington moshe rounds the deputy actually back then in back then was netanyahu himself brigadier general hugh tex again israel's military governor of gaza claim that israel finances hamas what i'm trying to get to as to the relevance today is is israel financing islam ists terrorism throughout the middle east we saw netanyahu accused of supporting isis diaspora in syria against president assad we even know about israel's role with iran in the iran contra scandal why does israel support islam ist violence. i think that you are totally longview you mentioned the shower and then turn the out of his deputy it was so 2 years ago failed to you to go a generation ago. we involved in. directly in. contrast. mao denial of vote and we
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see in iran post khomeini iran why we're not in. any detail all israeli probably d. most determined state in fighting against their will i mean israel obviously was part of the iran contra deal allowing weapons to be exported to iran and as you say these are historical details but how many years ago but how many is it hurted how many years ago did netanyahu meet with a legit isis diasur al qaeda sympathizers in the nato back to war against president assad of syria. i should admit they don't understand the open fictional fi story we are talking we are facing major injuries right now and you are talking about. which happened over to you describe in them or where lie to give you the credit but
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these are the event form so do you have a goal for totally irrelevant to all type of now in the middle east for prime minister i'll still be there more from israel's former prime minister and defense minister after this break. time after time corporations repeat the same mantra sustainability it's very important to accelerate transitions to sustainable transport sustainability stay in her manner the more equitable and sustainable well. they claim their production is completely hama's hollow disapprove. leave. it to congress numbers and not get it into something companies want us to feel good about buying their products while the damage is being done far away and this is something else this must be going to mean and i need much emphasis on moves in unison we
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israel the meat. they are the has been the. god since we. need to learn a new tune and. this kid who in the. prison system definition in. an initiative in our newscycle. welcome back i'm still here with the 10th prime minister of israel ehud barak president rouhani of iran claims that there are forces supporting islam mystic stream ism here obviously said the united states but he also says israel has been
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supporting that and many believe the abraham records are the preamble to a war on iraq i would not take president or honey or was going to where the judge for these these metro as a kind of phony liable this whole series of information about. iran is a totally biased and. there's no basis for it and the album called could be described as a defensive step against iranian expansion east. regional intentions but not as they put the. kind of creep for fall of friends of friends of steps against iran iran of course denies it has any regional ambitions did you support donald trump's assassination of general kasim sulaimani the iranian general who up until recently had been working with u.s. troops to defeat isis diane syria it's an american operation it's up to them i
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respect their right to act upon due judgment. of their interest in their fighting against. global terror all and if you ask me whether the world is a little bit safer place after suliman leave now to ease our thought i would tell you yes my answer is affirmative general sulaimani was working with united states troops against isis day as netanyahu is pictured with islam ists who. links to isis . newness in the b.b.c. here in britain found out that british support was ending up with islam ists in syria what i'm getting at is where is the support for islam is coming from in your region you know i don't know you and never met you but i can tell you judging from
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your question you have. a huge misperception of what willie happens in the middle east and i'm that true to what extent it could be of value have been interviewed we continue to have to listen to your claims which i found totally disconnected from reality even here all day of the names and they events you have mentioned probably had happened i'm not sure of this give believe iran a bluffing about retaliation for the assassination of customs and their money i don't see a value for continue to continue these we owe you know your right to frame the situation or the perception of the viewers of the situation upon your judgment and to ask me just to give moral kind of
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modification to it i do not accept your framing so i don't think that there is any value to continue doing. but all i was asking about was how big is the iranian threat to israel now that the united states assassinated one of their top generals i think that my english is not as good as yours but in plain english and very clear i don't believe it did do either way to continue an interview where in your own question you are too right to put an arm so. i'm used to. totally different interviews than i with all due respect i will ask you to end this interview will i have to ask you i mean i'm talking about regional security and the threats to israel you did want to be prime minister of israel up until a few months ago i'm asking you about how secure israel is given the abraham accords
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given the assassination of cousin still a money given the u.a.e. and bahrain becoming friends with israel you know i repeat it always with all due respect you have your opinion you have don't like where i'm asking for your idea we're in the old friend and i know it's going to i don't understand no no you don't ask my opinion i must go on to ask for my you don't ask for my. you discuss. form of a minister i think back to respect my you write to fully uncertain your questions i'm asking for your opinion about when israel situation deeply embedded deeply deeply embedded in your ego or pinions you have your wife for having your opinions but i am not. i do not intend to cope
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a great deal collaborate with death and thank you really thank you very much for your the opportunity to talk to you about this i think. i'm not sure why. we came to it in. former israeli prime minister ehud barak decided to end the interview there with joining me now for more is the editor in chief of the jerusalem post jack of cat check of thanks for coming back on we just spoke to former prime minister barak before he left is a shadow strike do you think being prepared on iran like the one you wrote about on syria when barak was defense minister well i think that israel is always preparing for. military action against iran's nuclear facilities there's no doubt that if you were 20. it would pose a threat of an extension of nature to the fact i told this don't hate her
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readiness or or desire to wait this are off the map so israel would have to have that capability in place but i don't think we're there yet because i suppose the context of why iran might want to retaliate is assassination cuz i'm still a mommy abraham accords all manner of different geopolitical developments obviously iran denies any military nuclear capability do you think and i know you've been really critical of netanyahu he's actually become quite a good prime minister in your country he's succeeding in getting us support for the arguably alleged violations of international law many resolutions he succeeded in getting golan israeli the embassy to jerusalem the j c p a way and massive subsidy from the us to tackle covered a virus. well i think that there are 2 nights any arms i think that there is the
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nuts and you know it was the statesman and you know it was diplomat and you know who knows how to work very well with other countries around the world and especially has cultivated particularly close ties and if special relationship an alliance with the current u.s. president donald trump and as a result has been able to achieve for israel a long list as some of them you mentioned strategic benefits i would say for israel but then there's another nixon you know the one who i'm more critical of who is i find to be a bit of a divisive politician i find his rhetoric to be sometimes anti-democratic i find some moves that he's made and the knesset israel's parliament against the attorney general against our courts against the judicial system and principally and most recently his management of the coronavirus crisis in this country is a complete failure sadly i say that and i wonder at times if it's not as a result of the fact that the prime minister is very preoccupied with his own trial
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that is about to restart in january we'll see him sitting inside a courtroom 3 days a week for hours on end that is something that he definitely doesn't want be it but this is a situation that needs a full time prime minister completely focused on the health and welfare of his citizens and i don't think that israel has that. always in then you know denies the corruption charges he also deny that he's handled coronavirus bullion come come given your editorials they know you've accused netanyahu of wanting total chaos you sound like an iranian politician in some of your editorial for the jury surely that's a that's a bit of a stretch i don't think i'm an arabian politician i think that what i'm doing and aren't tauriel what we're doing is we are holding what journalism is meant to be journalism is meant to be a watchdog for democracy that the real issue at. and you just have to look at the
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numbers right and you know they pretty much speak for itself israel today has a heist an actual rate per capita much from a country that appeared in the 1st wave i respect in march and april very tough luck i should say one of the highest it's not the highest more seriously is or one from a country that did very well the 1st way through country and now it's locking down the 1st western countries locking down its just for a 2nd time with with draconian measures economy again which is already predicted by the o.e.c.d. to be taking a 6 percent drop after years of growth is going to continue more businesses will close down more people get sick where people sadly die this is not good management well you have a death rate in israel which is better but capita than the one here in britain i should add and i suppose some light on us here to me more patriotic of course you gave a very good defense of what journalists supposed to do that but i think one element to the abraham. accords is palestinians have nowhere to go now
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they've called it a stab in the back from the u.a.e. and bahrain what's your view as to whether saudi arabia was basically behind this deal involving theoretically trump netanyahu with bahrain in the u.a.e. . well he threw a lot out of me right there so the let me just say firstly about the saudis involvement with the u.a.e. it seemed that they might have had a hand in it because it would be difficult to see the crown prince of the united arab emirates mohamed bin say i make a move this kind without the crown prince's approval from saudi arabia and yes let me just say about the palestinians for a moment in my personal opinion israel now should be reaching out to the palestinians because we're reaching out from point to strength sadly there intransigent they're stuck in their old ways they're they're missing another they don't miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. stop even our famous diplomat
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once said many years ago still protect. us but i would hope that maybe they'll come around to it and i hope that maybe through the arab world the palestinians will recognize that now is actually the time to come back to the table to negotiate try to reach a deal with israel or we're going to speak about him as a london on wednesday as program we invite the iranian you a bastard to deny the saudi a dictatorial power that you just allege that and what i think i'm getting at is and i should tell you the palestinians have no interest whatsoever in fairness to israel israel has sought opinion from palestine is clearly not happening. it's not happening but i think that you know the palestinians have to be a decision what it is that the exact rights israel has always said the door negotiations israel was the one that embraced peace for prosperity clammed donald trump and built a general which calls for a 2 state solution this is a perfect opportunity for the palestinians there get an extension off the table
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israel has he embraced as you state solution let's come let's start talking but they're not there given the amount of un resolutions violated by the treaties you mention there i have to ask you though and i asked my prime former prime minister barak about previous israeli financing for hamas hamas presumably seeking other people to get money from as it rules in the gaza strip iran its general custom silly money as asked later by donald trump you don't see any existential crisis that israel now faces because of the abraham accords and the actions of all trump. this is a crisis on the contrary i think with the abraham accords and with the targeted killing of customers who money has done is made the world a safer place or a cousin to the money was a terrorist who was responsible for generating the largest terrorist attacks the most terrorism not just against israel but against great britain the country but
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what he did work with against the united states against countries in europe taking him off the map and removing him makes the world a better place undermines you hons capability to entrench and so further in syria and to continue to build up his butt about and just about the abraham course what they have done when it comes the extensional threat you mention is that is they've created a larger plot that can take counter the u.n. and threats against israel and against the stability of the middle east from for too long people have said that israel and the palestinians a source of instability in the source of and that conflict is what's everyone today not recognizing the abraham courts is part of that new news for the world israel is a pillar of stability if you have courts in trenches that simply because those arab states which refused until now to recognize israel are now because they understand that working with israel will keep them safer against the true threats which is the iranians. yes thank you thank you for that's it for the show make sure to join us
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but to a wednesday when we hear other sides of the story including from the palestinian ambassador to the u.k. which i'm solo of until that subscribe to watch i will you tube and join the underground by following us to facebook instagram the 2nd. it was a very nice show from president wrote that i could have said no thank you or i could have said thank you and i said i'll take it and now it's time to introduce my it's not bashful mr don't travel thank you susan very much for the. name whatever you want to name i mean i don't know how would i come that the news that's dishonest telling our combat or recorder or even the network that's totally
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dishonest c.n.n. is says you know 100 percent negative i clearly there's a change fast changes so fast sometimes i'll say that's going to be a great story be a pretty good report and others good as you. will see what happens who knows i always say who knows what we'll see on the field will be success. time after time corporations repeat the same mantra sustainability it's very important to accelerate transitions to sustainable transport sustainability. a more equitable and sustainable well. they claim their production is completely hama's. it's a complex number. it. companies want us to feel good about buying their products. the damage is being done far away and this is something else just as we don't even
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plane crash in eastern ukraine leaves 26 people dead the sole survivor is in a serious but stable condition. hundreds of anti-government protesters turned out again in the balad russian capital with several early arrests reported the latest demonstration follows alexander ration this week to his 6th term as president. and iran brands america's new sanctions regime against it as medical terrorism the iranian foreign minister speaks to all take. the united states restrictions prevent us from even transferring money to buy vaccines so it's basically made.

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