the trumpet ministration continues its sanctions mania against cuba venezuela and iran has never explained how this advances the national interest also no matter who is in the white house or in policy blob is determined to continue to avenge its defeat in syria. to discuss this and more i'm joined by my guest marcus papadopoulos in london he's the editor of politics 1st magazine and here in moscow we're joined by bob he's a political analyst and editor in us me media project original macross up rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate ok we're going to marcus in london you and i want to tell marcus de mint in our audience here i have big news we're not to talk about the presidential debates we're not to talk about the supreme court of the united states we're not going about it joe biden is see now actually we're going to talk about some real important things

going on in the world today on this program and i want to talk about sanctions mania because this is all too familiar marcus it is a political weapon that is the kin to war it is. it is an assault on the spot where you know these countries are and as i said in my introduction here you know it's never explained why it is in the national interest why civilian populations in these designated countries are punished repeatedly and to know that that doesn't have any pull the real political outcome except for on the ground misery oh hemmer well with the well once cassavetes it's and indeed distracted by what is no 19 the american government has continued its aggression on the international stage and continued discretion on the basis on who we have seen in recent days is a washington impose near. sanctions on

a cuba venezuela and iran hands i believe peter that we really need to see these new sanctions true. russia. how are all of the international say yes on the one hand and the americans do want to take action against the aforementioned countries they will answer bring down the governments their classes and turn those countries to how they were trying to the revolutions in those countries namely vassal states of america and i believe on the other hand the most important reason is that the americans are shreiking back against russia and doing so i guess free of russia's most important allies and friends in the world as russia has a strategic partnership with iran russia has a strategic arms ship with. russia is a work in all establishing a strategic. as

a soviet union hastur in the cold war and the americans understand that they're also not subjective in syria has being defeated the americans know there is no chance of the syrian government being overthrown so here americans are looking to target russia's allies and friends in the well i don't see a 2nd program here you know you know team in the in again looking at the 3 countries that we mention your keep in israel in iran. there's always this pretense of some kind we'll drop sanctions if you do x. y. and z. once in 3 but if you look at every single example we'll talk about syria the 2nd half of the program is basically full submit surrender and then we will drop the sanctions here it doesn't work that way that's not what diplomacy is all about an obviously it is a pretense to force regime to. we don't know what happened to libya the north

koreans know what happened to libya here so i mean that this is such a blunt. tool for political change and there in there is no the the the the the character part of it is never really explained and that's why these these countries and in their governments of feel threatened because there is no alternative it's one way it's one way or my way or the highway and that is that is and that's not the way you can you know reasonably work the international order go ahead you know you're absolutely right the sanctions is basically a continuation of a war by on the means you know qualms it is used to say that war is a continuation of 46 by on the means while it's definitely sanctions is not diplomacy and these has been set up many discussions that bombed. rushing global affairs magazine organized and the west anatomist most of them agree

but they can do anything about it because the west and for important she is ideological. and this is the problem because if the united states foreign policy had been pretty metric look we had wonderful articles in the magazine called. american conservative embargo and the way basically the spread of course we are in now in iran threatens the u.s. nationals in afghanistan in pakistan in many neighboring countries but nevertheless you know mohammad german sorry for the foreign minister or what you're on he just recently gave an interview to our viewers just said because we cannot transfer money we cannot also pay for that big scene for any kind of medicine against compete the same story with venezuela it was proven beyond doubt that.

spread of course read in business well fred owns u.s. nationals you know because the disease spreads to the united states many other countries however they haven't done anything about how been given us so i went down to fight the disease and they have basically just joined the country by sanctions no they did it on i don't you think it's a it's fair to say that they're using covert as a political weapon against these governments i mean in that's unconscionable it's a conscionable she's an old pandemic as a political tool mark is going to go bad i mean do you want to finish the i just just to finish up i agree with marcus duff now russia is moving towards partnership with iran and with cuba and i think it's a wise move but please bear in mind that russia joined the u.n. sanctions against iraq and i think it was basically an expression or an willingness to have confrontation we believed in

a different world during the ninety's during the early 2000 and he did to be clear here limited to marcus no i mean russia did join other members the united nations security council on sanctions to to how it ran into that negotiations about its nuclear ambitions really what it did that ok it would have let me then we got an agreement and then the drug administration walked away from it so i think that you know you can you can comment russian foreign policy for pushing a diplomatic initiative which i've said repeatedly on this program and not to the markets right now repeatedly on this program that i meant the obama administration doing exactly that it's walking away from it that i'm critical of go hemmer. is a friend of the russian federation in the i say nice isn't it is serious and disagree so united nations security council measures be an employee song. iran and

i will say this there were quite a number of also russian diplomats who privately were not happy with that but in tracy transceiver russia is very different russia to retreat is not pursuing a strategic partnership or ground russia has a strategic partnership with iran over lathrop and the iranian foreign minister has said and also remember that he's now prepared to supply state of the art in systems to iran previously would not do because of his radio gestures the russians are now putting aside israel your taxes and they have prioritized a relationship we have iran over israel and i think just returning to sanctions sanctions are one of the most potent weapons in america's following policy also and what i hear with dmitri says about kerry for people who are suffering from what is known as kerry tonight saying that it's

a shame in the american policy makers have any feelings have a morals about humanity and also in economic terms it makes far more sense for the americans to bring her out crusading venezuela and iran and through that to take control of the economies there so that is why the americans are placed in sanctions and i think ultimately they are talking to investors friends and allies in the us as a way we can it last this resurgence of the international stage getting you know team . could be a trumpet ministration is kind of created this kind of false binary in my opinion is that this maximum pressure is a substitute for going to war because frank did say that he would not start any more silly stupid wars ok and you know what today he hasn't started anything however as we've all agreed on this program here same sions is another means of warfare and you know that the most glaring one right now is that is venezuela how do. world indiscreetly is a threat to american national interest is

a mystery to me ok but that goes to the point that marcus was making there do is that i mean john bolton even said that you know he was a national security council advisor but american companies are interested in this way was away at least he was friends their own head. well i mean in the united states colonial or no corn you know for you see you know edge in america is nothing new and bad as it is it would not be tragic you know but what's going on right now is indeed tragic because well trumpery presents crude american nationalism he didn't start a new wars not because he was peaceful but because ironically it even more war prole you know liberal interventionists were for early in his attempts to stop at war with iran to start a war with syria you know they were all business frayed to try would get all the benefits of victory and then he would be left in for another 4 years so

surprisingly mir accurately and he may deem i mean what is dick cheney here i mean you know we can go particularly particularly since the end of the cold war it's been destructive failure after another year i don't think anyone is worried about winning and people are worried about how bad we don't want to lose that's what we're going to be you're you're you're you're absolutely correct you know factually you are correct war with iran would be disastrous if it's you know it's corn sequences would be unpredictable but please remember we're out you know put into their you asked for importance you need you are not to walk into pragmatist you are not talking to people who base their position on facts they base their poorness your own ideology and that i don't which it is you that the iranian regime is weak in some popular people are against well basically something like that probably

existant in the 90 s. or in the ages you know but indeed many young people in iran who are against the government but the united states by invading iraq and making iraq what it is no she don't have spirit inside during in society so the united states on it has itself to go. same for that. and we all know that these sanctions is only strengthen the head of the governments that when these sanctions are directed against us it's so counterproductive and there is no learning curve here when it comes to sanctions all right gentlemen i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news with our.

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the day or thinks. we dare to ask. we're all things are considered i'm peter lavelle remind you that we're discussing some real names. i want to let me go back to you in london here it seems patently clear if you look

at the foreign policy adviser surrounding joe biden and of course the the foreign policy establishment that is a government in the trumpet ministration you know they just can't let syria go can they they just can't let it go and every time you ask them why are we in there why are we in syria which we know is the illegal under international law countries like russia have been indicted under international law based on the united nations charter here well when you asked a foreign policy well why we're in syria they can never give you the same answer twice can. oh peter the reason why the americans in your worse complex syria who is because washington has a thought host specific li a military and he can only accrue holes in the north east of the country and the americans as in days the russians and the iranians and other countries in the world

understand that syria is or immense cheer strategic importance and it was i do not believe that there will be any attempt by the americans in new faced syria to. the advances of the syrian army backed by the russian military and you're a military because of course i doing so you that could bring it out confrontation with russia but i do believe paisa that the americans have no intention whatsoever of relinquish in the best foothold in no free syria because i mean americans being in syria that does true trace firstly it limits syria's our influence and power in the middle east because there is a foreign army in syria and secondly and so a lesser extent it doesn't limit russia's position in the middle east why because syria is as it has been since the cold war is russia's always and is not just in

the middle east and in fact for us and for the russians because the americans are in syria does somewhat. limits their own position in the middle east but nonetheless i think what we see is unless the kurds and the americans full house and i don't see any evidence of that happening i think american states it would feast syria all the parts of the movie syria which they control offensively into or into an american protectorates well let. it would be strongly at odds with most of the world things here i mean you know with the things that the former policy seem to forget or willfully forget is that it was the it was the syrian arab army with the assistance of iran and russia that destroyed because of it i mean i know trump thinks the credit for whatever it took the russian air

force 25 planes and 6 weeks to do it the american stood by for years and watch the caliphate grow ok and actively encourage it one way or another proxies ok but you know in the in the they're worried about iran's influence in syria well by form entering this proxy international war against the government of damascus they brought in the russians they brought in the uranium so you know what and the iranians and the russians have done more to fight the taliban any western power ever has and no one in washington wants to admit that simple truths go ahead. well i think you know i'm sure in your 1st development on your 1st question i would see that the united states and the e.u. will not create insisting on changing the regime in syria it's a general problem you know you will tell you bill outr liberal ideology when they adopt a soap

a narrative they just don't let go of it you know russia gate i'm sorry for the americans you're going to hear him pounded for the next i don't know how many years until the idea what we do in the country changes the same story about poisoning so you know just recently it was revealed and not the opposition member oh you know old russia who claimed to have been poisoned by the russians but even karl marx up you know he is more skewed against f.b.i. for not believing him that he was poisoned was turned down so he it was officially not boys and why do we hear the same story. what young boy zones he's opponents you know and they will not then go and this is the core you know the principle of that foreign policy machine that you know what your step to syria you know let's get off that street i will give you the exact numbers you know before the russian aviation stop and operate in syria in september 2015 for 11 months the so-called

just one extended had to be in supposedly born out by the united states and their allies and the problem was then the sliming state just kept spray didn't it kept in lodge in the 3rd is that it controlled the situation or only changed after russia started or did and there are for the benefit of our viewers here the the the bombing campaign by the united states in its own eyes it didn't go after isis just roy in the state it the structure of syria that was the intention is to create a failed state so on the other side russia syria in its own lies they destroyed the counterfeit and to save the infrastructure of the country diametrically opposed agendas and you may want to save some yeah you know it just proves of on what i'm what we said in the beginning of the program if you if you don't believe that the united states destroyed the infrastructure of syria look who is keep in syria under

sanctions now we have been saying that sanctions is a continuation a would by other means the united states and the e.u. no you know despite the country being destroyed despite it being in red just after that civil war they continue maintaining sanctions against syria it's on her go i mean i don't remember any example in history when a country would be destroyed and now the war would be making the destruction you worse by not allowing to supply of oil by not to allow it to supply may. so this is all terrible bob you know talking about who destroyed what we know their narrative for the western media it was the opposite of what you just said peter they said the prophet is not born been isis the trash is born been severely and objects in it in syria here i want to quote peter falk former u.k.

ambassador to syria he has interviewed 2 sputnik like the so-called rebels want to set the dire have been using mosques hospitals schools asking the mandan control centers are of course when syrian president bashar al assad's boards these command and control centers it's a human uteri an outreach you know when asa wants them it's an atrocity it went to court u.s. led coalition warps you know the force but those and and and schools it's just an accident it's just bad luck if they kill civilians and it was made a mistake oh it was direction it oh oh he's sitting there for you ok ambassador to syria it's not some lane and telling us that it is mark is the interesting thing for me here is that in the trunk can either he's an able or unwilling to get the right people around him to have american troops

withdraw from syria when the then the people that want to promote this intervention there if indeed they do this want to be the decision maker there waiting for the pieces on the board to get into a certain situation where they can impose their will that's the only understood other than obviously not allowing syria to build and that's just out of spite because that hurts the civilian population but. there is no real coherence other than we don't have a plan so we're just going to sit in wait it out and see if we can determine outcomes you agree with. oh let me 1st of all places to say when i sit in a press gallery in the house of commons and hear mrs and backbench a pace say who air force. took the lead rope into showing how qaida and isis in syria i sit back and sire we've just sat then colin is really high so much so well they say they know they're not telling the truth they

know fixedly the russian military destroying profile kite and i says it's there but no british minister british happened member of parliament is going to credit russia with that because that would go against the official narrative in britain and also in america. is a threat to the west to western civilization to western democracy but it is or america's position in syria yes i have no doubt that there were there are people around. who likes to see it's very keen action more definitive action in syria and i have to say peace now on it or leave iraq paula. did not have people around to dictating to him what his approach to syria should be i have said this on cross so before and i who keep on saying it's real people in power in america are not the ones you see on television yes an american presence

has tremendous power was when it comes to for example health care but i refer to the fundamental core areas in american politics you know american economic times and american military. people in my opinion for the permanence unseen governments and it doesn't matter who sits in the white house. well what i said laying their direction. no matter who's in the white house or impulse the plot is determined to continue a bad. i got your sentiments there demon we're almost out of time here i think there's no good reason to believe that the bible ministration is going to act any differently as a matter of fact the need even more aggressive in considering the foreign policy quote unquote experts by his surrounding himself with. joe biden might be the obama that might say yes to war intervention in syria last minute goes. well i think it

will be streamed to dangerous see if joe biden comes to power because then. bomb us foreign policy would be continued and please remember the 4 main wars which are now destroying mankind they were all started under obama the war in yemen the war in syria the war in ukraine. and the war in libya you know they're well all started under obama so who by then returns what could have the same story again just a small. you know amendment to what our perception the people who run tonight the states are not the people that it is right but then also not the people that were elected you know we see now how mr truong you know all unpleasant person s. he is is subjected to the same campaign of demonization by the same people who demonized qaddafi who demonized the war she began a campaign here tonight a story out of time i want to thank my guests in london and here in moscow i think

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