tv Cross Talk RT September 28, 2020 12:30pm-1:01pm EDT
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he used the suspect to size and we are forced to respond we do not need police officers to respond to nonviolent activity let's be clear on a few things attorney general jeans is not calling for the end of traffic stops she is calling for the end of traffic stops with people who have guns arbitrarily unfortunately we are seeing that people of color specifically black and latino and indigenous people or arbitrarily pulled over for things that white people are not pulled over for overwhelmingly police primarily shoot white people and for example last year we shot about $300.00 black people and only about 7 of those were unarmed so it might be true again that more white people are shot and killed by the police but as a per capita as a percentage of their population based on the population that black people represent in this country black people per capita are shot and killed more by
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police officers briana taylor is dead because of the one time on and unnecessary and irresponsible use of guns by police officers this is a narrative that the police are starting to violence is a fantasy brought forth by radical organizations like anti fox and black lives matter so now if you want police to stab doing traffic stops in new york then you're going to see crime triple i guess you know what i'd say go ahead let's try it for 90 days do no traffic stats and see what the citizens of new york think about the escalating crime been taken care of by an officer who didn't have a gun we have cameras to take care of people who have sped cameras can also take care of people who don't have. as was the case in this unfortunate situation where we have another loss of life that was unnecessary due to escalation we do not need people who have guns to take care of nonviolent offenses. thanks pushing aside tonight has just gone half 7 here in moscow but back again and tell me.
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the low end who welcome to cross talk where all things are considered on people about the election only weeks away the trumpet ministration continues its sanctions mania against cuba venezuela and iran has never explained how this advances the national interest also no matter who is in the white house the foreign policy blob is determined to continue to avenge its defeat in syria. to discuss this and more i'm joined by my guest marcus papadopoulos in london he's the editor of politics 1st magazine and here in moscow we're joined by dmitri bobbish he's a political analyst and editor in the media project all right gentlemen crossed up rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate
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it ok let's go to marcus in london you're and i want to tell marcus do you. in our audience here i have big news we're not to talk about the presidential debates we're not to talk about the supreme court of the united states we're not about it joe biden is see now actually we're going to talk about some real important things going on in the world today on this program and i want to talk about sanctions mania because this is all too familiar marcus it is a political weapon that is the kin to war it is. it is an assault on the spot with these countries here and as i said in my introduction here you know it's never explained why it is in the national interest why civilian populations in these designated countries are repeatedly and to know that it doesn't have any people that were real political outcome except for on the ground misery oh hemmer whoa with the well once castrated and indeed distracted by what is no 19 the american government has continued its aggression on the international stage and
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continued this aggression on the base it's a move we have seen in recent days is a washington to impose new sanctions on a cuba venezuela and iran hands i believe peter that we really need to see these new sanctions true. russia be you know. how are all of the international say yes on the one hand and the americans do want to take action against the aforementioned countries they would like to bring down the government so that they would last and turn those countries so how they were trying to do the revolutions in those countries namely vassals states of america and i believe on the other hand the most important reason is that the americans are shreiking back against russia doing so i construe of russia's most important allies and friends in
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the world as washington. this shows he's a partnership with iran russia has just egypt our shit with. russia isn't in all of this. as a soviet union hastur in the cold war and the americans understand that they're also not subjects in syria has being defeated the americans know there is no chance of the syrian government being so here merican so on who can just get russia's allies and friends in the well i want to know what syria 2nd program yes you know you know team in the in again looking at the 3 countries that we mention your cuba venezuela and iran. there's always this pretense of some kind we'll drop sanctions if you do x. y. and z. once in 3 but if you look at every single example we will talk about syria in the 2nd half of the program it's basically full submit surrender and then we will drop
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the sanctions here it doesn't work that way that's not what diplomacy is all about an obviously it is a pretense to force regime change we all know what happened to libya the north koreans know what happened to libya here so i mean that this is such a blunt. tool for political change and they're in there is no the the the snake era part of it is never really explained and that's why these these countries in the end their governments of feel threatened because there is no alternative it's one way it's one way or my way or the highway and that is that is not and that's not the way you can you know reasonably work the international order go ahead you know you're absolutely right sanctions is basically a continuation or war by oddly means you know cause if it's used to say that war is a continuation of 46 by other means while it's definitely sanctions is not
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diplomacy. and this has been said of many discussions that bombay called organized the russian global affairs magine organized and the western and that is most of them agreed but they can't do anything about it because the western foreign policy is ideological and this is the problem because if the united states foreign policy had been pretty magical look we had wonderful articles in the magazine called. the american conservative and paul and the way basically the spread of call we in in iran threatens the u.s. nationals in afghanistan in pakistan in many neighboring countries but nevertheless you know mohammed generals are if the foreign minister or iran he just recently gave an interview to our viewers you said because we cannot transfer money
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we cannot also pay for their big scene for any kind of mission against compete the same story with various well it was proven beyond doubt that the spread of coheed in venezuela for etan's us nationals you know because the disease spreads to the united states why many other countries however the haven't done anything about how can the venue 7 government to fight the disease and they're basically destroyed the country by sanctions now they do but i don't you think it's a it's fair to say that they're you think of it as a political weapon against these governments i mean that's unconscionable it conscionable to use an old hand demick as a political tool marks let me go back i mean do you want to finish or just just to finish up i agree with marcus that knowledge russia is moving towards partnership with iran and with cuba and i think it's a wise move but please bear in mind that russia. joined the u.n.
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sanctions against iraq and i think it was basically an expression or unwillingness to have confrontation we believed in a different world during the ninety's during that thousands and need to be clear here little of europe that the markets know i mean russia did join other members of the united nations security council on sanctions to to have it ran into negotiations about its nuclear ambitions really what it did that ok it works it worked let me then we got an agreement and then the drug administration walked away from it so i think that you know you could you could comment russian foreign policy for pushing a diplomatic initiative which i had said repeatedly on this program and not to the markets right now repeatedly a little program that i meant the obama administration doing exactly that it's walking away from it that i'm critical of go hemmer this is absolutely correct to
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the russian federation in an icy icy snow so it has serious and disagree serious nations security council measures being employers on iran and i will say this there are questions on both also russian diplomats who privately were not happy with that but in tracy trend see if russia is very different russia to retreat is not pursuing a strategic asset agron russia has a strategic posture with iran over flatten the iranian foreign minister has said and also remember that he's now prepared to supply states of the os and systems to iran previously not to because of israel textures the russians are now putting aside israel your taxes and they have prioritized their relationship with iran over israel and i think just listening to sanctions sanctions are one of
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the most potent weapons. in america's phone policy also and what i hear with dmitri says about kerry for people who are suffering from what is known as kerry night saying that a shipment of american policymakers has any feelings any of morals about humanity and also in economics it makes far more sense for the americans to bring her out crusading cuba venezuela and iran and fruit that to take control of the economies so as why the americans are placed in sanctions i think also at least they are hawkinson cautious friends and allies of the us as a way we can a loss resurgence on the international stage going to you know team. could be the trumpet ministration is kind of created this kind of false binary in my opinion is that this maximum pressure is a substitute for going to war because trump did say that he would not start any more silly stupid wars ok and you know what today he hasn't started anything
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however as we have all agreed on this program here same sions is another means of of warfare and you know that the most glaring one right now is that is venezuela how in the world in disbelief of the threat to american national interest is a mystery to me ok but that goes to the point that marcus was making there do is that i mean john bolton even said that you know when he was a national security council advisor that american companies are interested in venezuela's oil it leastways france there. well i mean in the united states colonial or no corn you know for you see you know it in america is nothing new and bad as it is it would not be tragic you know but what's going on right now is indeed tragic because well trumpery presents crude american nationalism he didn't start a new wars not because he was peaceful but because ironically it even more war
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prole you know liberal interventionist for oil in his attempts to stop at war with iran to start a war with syria you know they were all business fraid to try would get all the benefits of victory and then he would be elected for another 4 years so surprisingly near accurately and he may deem i mean what is dick cheney here i mean you know we can go particularly particularly since the end of the cold war it's been destructive failure after another year i don't think anyone is worried about winning and people are worried about how bad we don't want to lose that's what we're going to be you're you're you're absolutely correct you know factually you are correct war with iran would be disastrous if it's you know it's corn sequences would be unpredictable but please remember you know put into them you asked for input you are not to walk into pragmatist you're not talking to people who base their position on facts they base their own idea all it and then i don't which it
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is you that the rain regime is weak in some popular people are against well basically something like that probably existant in the 90 s or in the ages you know but indeed many young people in iran who are against the government but the united states by invading iraq and making iraq what it is no she don't have spirit inside during in society so the united states on it has itself to go. same for that the car and we all know that these sanctions only strengthened the governments that were the sanctions have directed against it so counterproductive and there is no learning curve here when it comes to sanctions right gentlemen i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news with our. elderly forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. i
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robot must obey the orders given by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the 1st law show your identification for should be very careful about artificial intelligence and the point of view see is to create. a very chummy with artificial intelligence will something to. the obama's protect its own existence as. a sop were all things are considered i'm peter lavelle remind you we're discussing some real names.
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because let me go back to you in london here it seems patently clear if you look at the foreign policy adviser surrounding joe biden and of course the the the foreign policy establishment that is a government in the trumpet ministration you know they just can't let syria go can they be just can't let it go and every time you ask them why are we in there why are we in. syria which we know is the illegal under international law countries like russia have been indicted under international law based on the united nations charter here but when you asked a foreign policy block why we're in syria they can never give you the same answer twice can. oh peter the reason why the americans in your worse complex syria who is because washington has a thought host specific leave
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a military and he can only accrue holes in the north east of the country and the americans as in days the russians and the iranians and our countries in the world understand that syria is or immense cheer strategic importance and to what i do not believe that there will be any attempt by the americans in new faced syria to. the atrocities of the syrian army backed by the russian military and you're a military because of course i doing so you that could bring it out compensation way for russia but i do believe peter that the americans have no intention whatsoever of really christian best foothold in no free syria because i mean americans being in syria that does true friends firstly it limits syria's our influence and power in the middle east because there is a foreign army in syria and secondly and so
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a lesser extent it doesn't limit russia's position in the middle east why because syria is as it has been since the cold war is russia's always and it's not just in the middle east and in fact for us and for the russians because the americans are in syria does somewhat. limits their own position in the middle east but nonetheless i think what we will see is unless the kurds and the americans full house and i don't see any evidence of that happening i think the american states it would feast syria all the parts of the movie syria which they control effectively into or into an american protectorates well let. it would be strongly at odds with most of the world things here i mean you know the things that the former policy seem to forget or willfully forget is that it was the it was the
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syrian arab army with the assistance of iran and russia that destroyed the counterfeit i mean i know trump thinks the credit for whatever it took the russian air force 25 planes and 6 weeks to do it the american stood by for years and watch the caliphate grow ok and actively encourage it one way or another proxies ok but you know in the in the they're worried about iran's influence in syria well by for minting this proxy international war against the government of damascus they brought in the russians they brought in the uranium so you know what and the iranians and the russians have done more to fight the taliban then any western power ever has and no one in washington wants to admit that simple truth go ahead. well i think you know i'm sorry in your 1st development on your 1st question i would see that the united states and the e.u. will not create insisting on changing the regime in syria it's
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a general problem you know you will tell you bill outr liberal ideology when they adopt a soap a narrative they just don't let go of it you know russia gate i'm sorry for the americans you're going to hear him pounded for the next i don't know how many years until the idea what we do in the country changes the same story about wesen inks you know just recently it was revealed that and not the opposition member you know over russia who claimed to have been poisoned by the russians but even koran was up you know he is more skewed against f.b.i. for not believing him that he was poisoned was turned down so he was officially not poisoned and we hear the same story. boy zones he's opponents you know and they will not then go and this is the core you know the principle of that foreign policy machine and what your step about syria you know let's get our facts st i will give
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you the exact numbers you know before the russian aviation stop and operating in syria in september 2015 for 11 months the so-called just one extended had to be in supposedly born out by the united states and their allies and the problem was that the sliming state just kept spray didn't it kept in lodge in the 3rd is that it controlled the situation or only changed after russia stopped an order and there are for the benefit of our viewers here the the the bombing campaign by the united states in its own eyes it didn't go after isis it destroyed the state it the structure of syria that was the intention is to create a failed state so on the other side russia syria in its own lies they destroyed the counterfeit and to save the infrastructure of the country diametrically opposed
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agendas and you may want to save some yeah you know it just proves of on what i'm what we said in the beginning of the program if you if you don't believe that the united states destroyed the infrastructure of syria look who it is keep in syria under sanctions now we have been saying that sanctions is a continuation of would by other means then that states and the e.u. no you know despite the country being destroyed despite it being in red just after that civil war they continue maintaining sanctions against syria it's on her go i mean i don't remember any example in history when a country would be destroyed and now the war would be making the destruction you worse by not allowing to supply of oil by not to allow it to supply me. so this is all terrible bob you know i'm talking about who destroyed what we know their narrative for the western media it was the opposite of what you just said peter
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they said the prophet is not won't be an isis the trash is born been civilian or objects in syria here i want to quote peter falk former u.k. ambassador to syria he has interviewed 2 sputnik like the so-called rebels for the south the dire have been using mosques hospitals schools asking them and and control centers are of course when syrian president bashar al assad's boards these command and control centers in so human uteri and outreach you know when asa wants them it's an atrocity it went to court u.s. led coalition warps you know other hospitals and. schools it's just an accident it's just bad luck if they kill civilians and it was make it a mistake oh it was directly in the o.r. he said it's not for you ok ambassador to syria it's not some lane and they did us that it in marcus the interesting thing for me here is that in the
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trunk a it either he's an able or unwilling to get the right people around him don't have american troops withdraw from syria when the then the people that want to promote this intervention there if indeed they did this want to be the decision maker there waiting for the pieces on the board to get into a certain situation where they can impose their will that's the only understood other than obviously not allowing syria to build and that's just out of spite because that hurts the civilian population but. there is no real coherence other than we don't have a plan so we're just going to sit and wait it out and see if we can determine outcomes you agree with. oh let me 1st of all places to say when i sit in a press gallery in the house of commons and hear mrs and backbench a pace say who air force. took the lead rope into showing how qaida and isis in syria i sit back and sire we've just sat then colin is
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really high so much so well they say they know they're not telling the truth they know affectively the russian military just showing her how to and i says it's there but no british minister no british happens member of parliament is going to credit russia with that because that would go against the official narrative in britain and also in america. is a threat to the west to western civilization to western democracy but it is or america's position in syria yes i have no doubt that there were there are people around. who likes to see it's very keen action more definitive action in syria and i have to say peace now on it or leave iraq or paloma. did not have people around him dictating to hear what his approach to syria should be i
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have said this on cross so before and i keep on saying it's the real people in power in america and not the ones you see on television yes an american president has tremendous power was when it comes to for example health care but i prefer the fundamental core areas in american politics you know american economic times in an american military and those are people in my opinion for the permanence unseen governments and it doesn't matter who sits in the white house. well what i said laying their direction. no matter who's in the white house or a policy lobbyist determined to continue a bad. and i got your sentiments there we're almost out of time here i guess there's no good reason to believe that the by ministration is going to act any differently as a matter of fact they need even more aggressive in considering the foreign policy
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quote unquote experts that by his surrounding himself with. joe biden might be the obama that might say yes to war intervention in syria last minute goes. well i think it will be streamed to dangerous see if joe biden comes to power because then . bomb us foreign policy would be continued and please remember the 4 main wars which are now destroying mankind they were all started under obama the war in yemen the war in syria the war in ukraine. and the war in libya you know there well it all started under obama so who by then returns for what could have the same story again just a small. you know amendment to what our perception the people who run tonight the states are not the people that it was right but then also not the people that were elected you know we see you know how mr truong you know unpleasant person as he is is subjected to the same complain of demonization by the same people who demonized
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