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hello and welcome to crossfire we're all things are considered on peter lavelle as election day approaches there are growing concerns whether the outcome will be contested whether the election will be legitimate we are told this election truly matters we're always told this however this time around there's a difference feel there is an existential quality to disallow action how many voters will say not my president after november 3rd. to discuss this and more i'm joined by my guest meaning shock and rest and she is a political advisor and commentator as well as the founder of republican women for i.d. and in las vegas be crossed rory he is a republican strategist right across up rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it was go to rory in las vegas you know as you certainly heard in my introduction

a lot of peep. considering this election is the next essential one meaning it's you know black and white it is it's a bloodsport to the end and give and they and the big sure will vanquish the losers here ok that's how well a lot of the media has been trying it is a really good idea to do that because the country is already so terribly divided we have these health conditions and then there is the questions about balloting here i mean how is that a lot of hyperbole or is it pretty much on the mark rory what do you think you know a few weeks ago i may have answered that question with that is a lot of hyperbole yesterday in minneapolis we saw that the brother of a city council member was driving around with 300 ballots in his car in express violation of minnesota law which allows for one person to have up to 3 ballots on their person or to act as a custodian for up to 3 ballots show i mean you know american politics has become increasingly tribal and i do think there is valid concern by by certain parties i

mean the same question to you and me because i've heard a number of these stories here. of custody issues with ballots and that should make us all very concerned but it doesn't merit the kind of rhetoric that we're hearing as we get close to election day ahead so we had all but we. claimed rather a. whole rhetoric on both sides and they were all worried. that the republican party for example how do we if i would stop or affirm or happy were yours in other words out of business where in birds of science by where we know that our own heart was. better we were more back home and that the goals are. really. rolled. forward i wouldn't think that star wars are. well frankly about who we were. i just want to put it very bluntly how about voters. we went. with the

type of leadership we are. people and so when i. sense that a moral leader who. won't look obama here i'm not quite. confident turns. will forward but will be there i was all smiles already hopeful for which i can be but really i think that's extremely well put because. i think oh you know all of his interested in politics i mean we everyone knows that there is some feeling on the margins ok but it usually doesn't determine the outcome here now or in a situation now where you know you know we may have very strong political differences but the the 1st time in my life and example to be out there will be legitimate dummy not so pretty scary thoughts ok because as i said in my introduction how many millions of people will say not my president after the

election and that's it that's even a worse carried not go ahead rory was the only one candidate in this election has said that they plan to this has said treat em to believe that they plan to contest the outcome of the election and that's joe biden you know donald trump has said that he's going to you know make sure that there were public a national committee the republican national lawyers association plans to have lawyers in place to make sure there is a free and fair election joe biden in this all his surrogates have said plainly they plan to contest they plan to either of let me rephrase that contest the outcome lection but not him but not concede if they lose prior to contesting in enclosed states i'm sure they are preemptively they're clearing a court battle where all the president trying to said is that he wants to ensure that it is a free and fair election and i think there is you know ballot how you know about rena brown about harvesting about harvesting is a great point you're seeing ballot harvesting across the country even legally on video this week well and then only that but really don't go back to you and say you

know we had decent. actions of new york state and it took weeks to find out the outcome and weeks ok and that's not a police state so i'm not really sure you know you can point to being read aperitif you're looking at a process here and considering how charged things that it things are i mean i think it's hard for me to imagine how people are going to feel particularly those who feel strongly about the candidates or the ability to wait for days even weeks for an outcome that of course opens up the the possibility that something's going on that we don't know what's going on and that's going to throw it down to the outcome and it down even more so this is it's a process problem here i agree but the party if it's actually had cast doubt on the entire process that's right and that takes away from basically the average american thinking that this is a process they can trust because different parties are going to say if i think there's a one man of power or example the republicans are at this point i don't worry it's going to credit to ads in present time here but your brain if you are we'll see

what happens back to me is not leadership and so no matter what joe biden's doing he's not the current occupant of your office and so it's you know whoever's in power whoever occupies office it's up to them so he and it's just such an unusual statement what happened while back we worried that this president could be fine with a bomb with an art history it's you know and i think it would be brought on his hands right i just think it's under his leadership and so what we've seen it mirrors a modern american presidency if reluctance to either anything but couldn't fight violence and what's more i really well president trump rocked any hope he had with a republican like me who did it well we're going to i think stand because what i need a strong decisive leadership already the pandemic is up and with the lives of women like me you know to a virtual school for my children is getting in the middle of my work it's changed

our lives forever and. well robots are. almost for when i want somebody who strong if i will follow what i want what are what happens for happy hour oh well. i'll come up with a war rap song i don't start hearing what a president top 5 i were in their war by a well i mean let's face it you brought up the issue of violence roaring i really wish some prominent democrats would condemn the violence that we've seen for the last few months in america's major cities here and you just won't do that and i find that to be so disheartening because you know you can't blame what happened to me out isn't trunks fall and that you can blame trump for a lot of things a lot is the president ok but he didn't do that ok but i didn't see democrats pushing back on him and this goes back on the competence thing i mean you know that is this election supposed to be the worse the better it in

a bat's case it's really the worse for the people is not the worst of the politicians. well that's a great point i mean you know rina talks about president trump tacitly being ok with the president trying to go ok with violence in the streets i've never heard anything like that from his kids from his campaign what i have seen is is basement heightened by has not you know done anything that you condemn the democratic leaders in minneapolis can assure wisconsin and these places where cities are literally on fire and you have democratic incumbents in the united states house of representatives calling these beautiful protests you have elected democratic leaders saying that calling 911 when someone when your house is being blurred burglarized is white privilege where is joe biden saying these people don't represent the democratic party if his asking donald trump to disrobe that every you know ever everything said by every republican i would ask where is the titular

leader of the democratic party in disavowing elected democrats who are advocating permissable violence. you want to reply to that meaning you know worry yet you bring up a good point about that let's look at the question at the top isn't it back to the always right everybody but well he was part of my party is wrong 1st things have been get out of step with me right but this is a yes in words these are his action when he had his troops essentially a mix of federal and local law enforcement power at the protesters was rubber bullets and tear gas and he wanted to opportunity don't want a church and got a look at where this rat was fundamentally wrong that's him using the law enforcement for what he wants to do for his day and i'm just judging him based on what he's doing i agree with you it's unfair to ask a leader to disavow everything that everybody in their right he's doing and we should use that same standard for joe biden how can you think for everything but like to democrat that is because they're saying you know almost you know giving

giving rise to a war by when we move and i agree i've been concerned about pat i don't like lugar is an arsonist but i know that in peaceful our peaceful protests that happen in this country i was a hallmark of democracy where one of the most beautiful things and striking the constitution is our right to go out in the streets and protest there are always going to be bad actors and i think that elected democrats have i'm not a democrat let me just be honest about that i've never voted for one it's all this year and i just think that elected that white house have done enough to disavow that's what also is unfair to judge them based on these bad actors and they were in a moment where we just have to judge the leaders by what they say and i'm worried about the president's words but. i wonder what you would like i think that here because i am 3 a vision our viewers i'm sure believe in the institution of democracy because it should be same present you know and even one person one vote and then you know even then you accept the outcome here and what i find very very disappointing is that

you don't have one prominent republicans and probably democrats coming together for this. the sake of the election itself the process ok because you know what again how many people would say not my president because of the missteps and miss spoken as of the our leaders i'll even throw in donald trump better enough ok but a lot is at stake here and i don't think i don't see leadership coming from the political class as it were certainly the liberal media as being irresponsible the atrociously here this is a very fragile thing i don't think people understand how easy it is to reduce that rory so i think if the democratic controlled legislatures in minnesota colorado and nevada name 3 easy states we're not insistent on mailing voters mailing to inactive voters who are uninsured ballot piles of ballots 200 ballots high collecting that apartment about a collecting at

a at apartment complexes thousands of ballots going to dead voters if if the legislatures in those states controlled by democrats democratic governors in all of those states if they were putting in place strong election security measures and family members of all democratic elected officials were not flaunting you know hundreds of the legal ballots and it was clear that the democratic party was concerned with ballot integrity and election integrity i think that would go a long way and the democrats would be able to claim some moral high ground here they'd be able to say we want to have a safe election because of coat it but we need to act but you know we want to make sure that it is it is recognized as a legitimate but in no state the republican national committee has had to shoot in multiple states to keep ballots in mass from being made to inactive oftentimes to see not ok on that point and we're going to get it we're going to go show break we're going to talk about litigating this election here i'm going to jump in you know we're going to go to a short break and after a short break we'll continue our discussion on the upcoming presidential election

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kind of a system definition in. the news. you know back in 2008 when the have a global financial crisis and banks went on their lehman brothers bear stearns and some european banks are going to go under and that i don't like meetings all weekend long and the policy was not to reform banks but to give them a bigger credit line 1020 times bigger at the time we said you know in 10 to 12 years sam place going to happen that a lot bigger where we are 12 years later and. welcome back to crossfire all things are considered i'm peter all about a minute we're talking about the possible problems with the upcoming presidential election.

but let's go back to reno. a little gating the election and the 1st part of the program here let's talk about this in your mind you think this is going to end up in the supreme court i mean considering the hyperbole we've heard in the whole of the threats and everything and no concession and where is your army of lawyers your lawyers here your blinders here i mean it's in the making it's happening as we speak ok and we have of course we have only 8 justices on the court there is there is a high possibility a great possibility that we'll have a 9th one. before the election here you think we're going to need that 9th judge considering what's going on with the empty aims of the election well we're going calling well so are we. going to we we still. we were in

a well you know i mean when we were. very much. i mean. by moments well oh look i don't want more important what we saw. or a long. long time. oh i do projects on one side by southwest texas our home where we were going to happen because i was we were down during question or in florida but i was really kind of go when we were our home in charge and so. i think i may as well if i like i'm back i'm going very . sour because i want the. court. who are primed to go or present talk with bob which i want to live i'm supporting so i will 5 who were even stars and we were actually there were you know so somewhere it's open court. but we're going across the bar ok you know getting

a good look i mean. there's one thing ok i'm willing to agree with you because the polls were enough work is bad is everyone says but they were often up to really missed the election which is it that's it you know it's not you can't we didn't you know that you were president ok so we so we had that. whole way there is the shy trump voter out there that's a real phenomenon and it's a very mean and then you have this liberal media that is. things left right and center makes accusations claims and then they're never held to account and people believe a lot of these horror stories and it's a big detriment of the democratic process ok and then we throw in the supreme court here. i certainly believe there's nothing wrong in my mind i'm a conservative i don't have anything to do with the g.o.p. primary concern but you know i look at trump at face value and his tweets i wish he

would stop tweeting ok it's not to his benefit ok anyway but there's nothing in and i've seen from him that you're going to have to get in the military and remove him from the oval office i mean i think that's just simply absurd ok. i mean if he loses and he loses in the supreme court well he'll start his own network and you know right or fox and he'll be right back in the game ok so we come down everybody . i don't i don't think the supreme court will have to get involved i don't think this will be election will be decided in litigation if you look at all the polls right now in all the suing states even states like nevada which i would call you know sort of 2nd tier swing states they're within 2 points right so i think what has happened is in the in the final weeks and possibly in the debates you know there will be a clearly decisive momentum for either of the 2 candidates and which will give each or either that you candidates a bump by 2 or 3 points anough to carry enough of the swing states where within the electoral college it is not close it may be close in

a lot of individual states but in the electoral college it will not be close enough to to make any sort of reasoned contention you know i mean one of the things i think we could draw up to me and because i do see that it's going to be extremely problematic come november 3rd i mean there's going to be delays there sons some states he can count mail in ballots when you get them in other states you can only count them when the election is over and you know every single there are 50 states there are 50 different ways of doing it apparently here but isn't that something that we really should learn from you know the voter rolls and things like that i mean i used to live in california and every single election there was a scandal about voter rolls because you know they're overly purged under purged you know it is this really a wake up call for we want to avoid this kind of rancor the country doesn't need is it this should be a concerted effort to really get the election machinery much more in human form

without violating states' rights i'm a conservative but we should have we should have come for when we go and vote if we vote by mail or through proxy or in person then we don't have to worry about this because we already have shenanigans all over the place. and we don't they the mechanism itself is a ricketty in it it needs. a 2nd look or 4th or 5th how many times it takes to make sure people have confidence would you agree with i am glad you bring that up here because this isn't something that we can probably talk until the wee morning hours about this is so much a hot issue that most americans do not know about and it's bad our law actions are not secure we have a good senator who can talk to mitch mcconnell to thank him for that he unfortunately did not do the right i want to do the right thing right up to 2015 and think you know what we need more money towards making our elections more secure because we know there was going to her parents in 26 and it was. data that shows that however we know who the impact because it isn't possible to measure electronic

voting is so new in this country if you still look at it and how are we going to know it john boy don't we bob in my home state of west virginia have been municipality were which you task where being the clerk up how's he going to now if he was in there it is machines where temper where they are you know with whatever we want to make use of brains for people will not know even the most micro level. elections were interviewed way and that's what's worried me is that we've taken no steps in this country and it should come from the federal government i believe and look i'm a lifelong concern where they say the federal government really should all go have a brother approach but this was one area where we thought it out and we thought it might mean i'm securing our elections we might not be in such a hot hot mess when we just put it that way this will happen because people are scared about the whole process though again not been done to secure the process no

more information or education on how the process can be more a bill or to vote and get a younger 2nd of americans voting that we just did just a tiny bit i'm much more angry by beeping i mean i did state split the state so you could. counties and and all of that ok if that's proven people in charge and people have gone to prison for it ok so but but your point yes i agree with you 100 percent and i think it's something that is actually not that difficult to understand it's just not brought up very much ok you know i mean 100 pounds to vote so you know you know we used to believe it was dispassionate you know now there's growing suspicions you know in the end with good reason and we need always always need more and more transparency that's the solution to this more transparency really are all very i joined the fact that rita found a way to attack them and the majority leader here that was quite skillful i guarantee you you get every single vote in the republican senate and as much

federal funding as anyone wanted voter id if you required an i.d. to vote as part of that bill every single republican in the senate would be on board but they fact all democrats do not want to shape and fair elections they don't i mean there are laws in many states that that you know they're it's technically not fraud because it's legal but event but it vantage questionable voting states where states where you can vote by bringing a lease that was signed yesterday in the state of wisconsin you know i there are so again if the true concern was an election integrity show when id get to vote and every single republican vote the senate would be on board but in the end the roaring i call that legal fraud ok is it it's legal fraud here you know i mean i guess what i mean. by the way if you're a conservative like myself here i mean if you need i.d. to get on an airplane if you need id to get. open

a bank account i don't understand why you don't need id to go vote you're assuming that you know i mean and i'm not trying to be discriminatory here that i know in my lifetime i've known. countless number of people that have immigrated to the united states that are very proud americans and they're very proud that they can vote because the country they came from they didn't have a 3 bedroom folks and so i mean that might be saying i'm an american citizen i can vote you know how prideful people feel that way and i know a lot of people the left don't ok but i know a lot of people that feel that prime that that is such an important right for them that so many americans actually take for granted go ahead rita well i'm one of those that got that i'm god are we going to go slow you know if you ask me why i mean my career in the g.o.p. it's not because i want to but it's a general feeling of patriots at that because you know it was. you know he was there in line with your parents and go through all the hoops and all the money so the reader reads here i want well i think great if i was what people were going to

hear on for our country if i talked with $1.03 but what we're talking. about because you have to because the popular in politics i mean i would democrats have really perpetual 'd bought and what we can walk on and that's surgical for you know there's a social pact yeah pretty obvious for me when i read i'm going to fall for a lot of the law permits and so i do agree with. lots i think with jobs well there's a part of our party bought wife illegal to go i want seems anyone but what they want to. do a lot to her about her job you know a lot of people having the get what they want is power and they want to cage it's not because well he works hard each you know he pays taxes he shouldn't write a book well that's a that's the courts should decide that ok we are on the fact of the matter the fact

of the matter is is it's a decision she gives you certain rights if you do not have citizenship you do not have those rights ok it's one of the very few rights you don't town any living in america here so you know for me. the way the democrats they play in liberals say it's for democracy no it's for their own power of good that's what they want and they want to change the electorate that's what they want to do and that's why we need to have these clean elections because there's going to be one of the countries are going to say and i mark my words i feel very strongly about this they're going to say we got cheated ok we got cheated ok asking bernie sanders supporter what it feels like and they did it to him twice ok i last 20 seconds go to rory there in las vegas. i mean i agree with your point that without fair elections without clean elections there is going to be a plenty of people who say that we got cheated and i am hopeful that you know whichever campaign wins you know provided it is election free of fraud free of you

know free of tampering that i believe there will be if you know a peaceful transition of power that is the will of the voters in this country for you already and weena fingers crossed took it would have begun i guess and arrested in las vegas i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are to see him next time remember. the world.

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