so you should be seen here and a whole lot more than you're saying if you don't take that advice easy going to dig yourself. armenia and azerbaijan continue to face off over the disputed territory of. our correspondent is in that conflict so. the 2 nations wage a war of words the u.n. security calls for an immediate cease fire also ahead on the program. among. everybody knows he's a liar there's nothing smart about you. know you are number 2. and so the 1st presidential debate before the u.s. election descends into name calling and interruption we picked choice moments from

the encounter between. reaction as well coming up. one minute past 9 pm here in moscow with this weapons thing the last day of september my name's you know me and you're welcome to our 2 international. the u.n. security council is calling for immediate end to fighting between armenia and azerbaijan after 4 days of hostilities the 2 nations are once again vying for control over the long speeded border region of nagorno-karabakh artie's. is in the conflict zone. well we're in the city of. the capital of the disputed nagorno-karabakh region and well the you can see how dark it is around me well it's because we're in a forest or somewhere in the middle of nowhere no in in the middle of a city. a big pretty big bustling city normally shining with the lights but this is

not the case right now because all the street lights have been switched off people are trying not to light the lights in their homes just because just to make it more difficult the job more difficult to those who are bombing this town what has become regular here raid sirens that sort of a sort of terrifying soundtrack to this war i should say this city of to panic at is pretty far from the front line about 60 kilometers probably but regularly every day we're hearing dozens of raid sirens and we hear we're hearing explosions as the missile defense systems as added fan systems i should say are shooting down these drones that the air by johnny army is sending in sending in here now when it comes to the latest as to what's going on on the frontlines well i wish i could tell you that it is getting more timid but well it isn't at all the fighting is

intensifying from what i'm seeing this is the conclusion that i can make so far the infantry aren't at each other's throats on going into hand to hand combat so far the conflict and the stage of artillery shelling is and bombings the drone bombings especially so the 2 the 2 sides are firing at each other relented slee ruthlessly when it comes to casualties both armenia and azerbaijan to giving contradicting figures and each for instance armenia for example is saying that more than $100.00 people were killed they could have they killed more than $100.00 as they are by johnny soldiers as they are by john denies that and says that it was them who killed hundreds of armenians soldiers and i mean turn denies that so it is difficult to find any any plausible and real it's difficult to tell which figures are realistic indeed now when it comes to the bigger developments armenia today the foreign minute. accused by john of giving up all operations offensive operations

bombings control to the turkish military so essentially they've said that now everything that's going on every bombing is something that turkey has ordered something to has been ordered from by you the turkish military now ankara of quds has adamantly denied that saying that they are not involved in this conflict militarily i mean it has promised to show some proof but hasn't done so so far now as to what we have seen we traveled to a frontline town basically in an hour that we spent there filming we witnessed everything artillery artillery fire from both sides a drone came in flew into buzzing the armenian soldiers shot didn't they missed the drone bombed those those who shot and flew away and then artillery worked again all that in the span of just an hour now i will be standing by here reporting from

the frontlines and from and report giving you bringing you personal stories alike so stay tuned for that. encouraged out of the only international correspondent on the ground there meanwhile azerbaijani media have published a video allegedly showing a drone strike on armenian soldiers dozens of civilian and military casualties have been reported on both sides people in azerbaijan and armenia the ongoing crisis. offical for the hamas as a by john is not providing any opportunity to resolve this conflict through negotiations it has been decided that the conflict must be resolved through force and we are all ready for that but it must be understood that if this happens there will be severe loss of life and every loss is a tragedy or we do not want to be addressed in this way. for me it's not part of our position it is serious to article and from their point of view we are to bring as an armenian i do. not want to talk about who is right or wrong but i would like

those issued to be resolved through negotiations not force the indeed. i don't like what is happening but many people i know are going to go into the front of the we don't want blood to be sure we want everything to end peacefully but i am afraid there is no chance to talk about peace at the moment but we must reclaim our land which is. there for devotion and i must make a news article of course what is happening in the conflict zone is bad who would want to handle no one see people dying to tell the hand was forced by the armenians or the. american well so far media have rejected international calls for peace talks our senior correspondent goes they have has more on the standoff. well the violence didn't stop with the onset of the night now what we're hearing is that about johnny forces claim that armenians shelled civilian settlements over nice that they had been damage to civilian infrastructure civilian casualties are dubber

of people wounded we also have heard as there by john claim to have destroyed an s 300 and the air defense missile complex that was stationed apparently they say near the front lines down paranoid or of this coming just hours of the u.n. security council came out and condemned in strong words the violence they called it both sides did d.c.s. to deescalate and didn't negotiate with each other to start talking to each other unfortunately as they are by john and armine were also given a voice during the discussion the only thing that they agreed on is that they completely disagree with each other on forces who are media subjected to considerations of the armed forces of course of course you know along the front line and it jason populated in my country to use an intensifying you know to

repulse the aggression on forces who forces going john have under treat consolations in the exercise of the right to self-defense the businesses of majority statement this evening to conceal its responsibility who preplanned norsk you move through aggression a greased people no good economy the aggression. you referenced going to use the region you soon to milledge counterattack is not really deceptive while bad as been an international outcry calling for both sides to pull back for a cease fire and one conditional cease fire to be put in place and nations have picked sides one of them of course is turkey which is backed as it by john firmly we've heard. statements such as i said by john in turkey are one people living in 2 different states we've also heard a senior turkish official come out and say that any armenian attack on a and thereby jordan settlement outside the conflict zone should be and would be

construed as an attack on turkish soil perhaps an invitation to get involved militarily we stand by as opposed to shield and on the table now we want to solve this problem completely turkey's role in all of this has been a point of contention much debate and argument especially between armenia and azerbaijan we will of course heard yesterday that armenia cames take issue f. 16 fighter of shooting down one of its jets accusing turkish advisors of being in the field and directing is that about joining forces all of this i said about jollity self has denied. it's easy to prove that it is just another provocation by an east through qatari turkish warfare instructions and high ranking personnel a currently at command posts in azerbaijan and turkey is also recruiting mercenaries in syria and taking them to azerbaijan to fight in

a war against nagorno-karabakh and armenia turkey is giving its moral support and we are grateful to the turkish government and turkish people for solidarity in standing by resigning there is no other role turkey's take the conflict the passions here are overwhelming and the fear is that things will spiral even further out of control than they already are the race is on according to many leaders in a bid to end this conflict and this conflict before it can get even worse. nagorno-karabakh is one of several border disputes that rose from the collapse of the soviet union the area broke away from more than 30 years ago and it carried itself independent however it's not widely recognized as a sovereign state with more in the back story here is our tease him or. a region nestled in the caucasus mountains caught between armenia and azerbaijan is now in the global spotlight how did new corner karabakh to get to this trouble point the

disputed territory has a rich history having lived under many rulers and kingdoms before seeing out the final days of the russian empire $917.00 came the empire collapsed $918.00 came as a beach on an armenia became independent historically armenian nagorno-karabakh were clear but azerbaijan tried again and again to take back control armenia and azerbaijan independence was short lived in 1920 they were incorporated into the soviet union. in a corner carpark wanted a referendum to join all media but joseph stalin had other plans based on the need for national peace between muslims and armenians on the economic ties of the upper and lower karabakh its permanent ties with as regime leave nagorno-karabakh within the as regime soviet socialist republic for more than 6 decades armenia tried to

repeal the decision with no success then in the late eighty's the people of nagorno-karabakh started their own campaign to unite with armenia after a vote they declared their allegiance to in 1988 which was rejected by both moscow and. millions of protested in both countries buildings were torched businesses were attacked military conflict started in the disputed area but nothing changed moscow had made its decision 3 years later in 1009 to one the u.s.s.r. collapsed but still nothing changed. then started the bloodiest clash the regions of a scene and total an estimated $30000.00 were killed and $1000000.00 what displaced

finally in 1994 a fraud. truce came into effect. but . since then minutes 2 clashes have periodic leaf up and subsided international players regularly mediate but with all media now considering recognizing nagorno-karabakh to dependence as a page on unwilling to even discuss it finding common ground is increasingly difficult historically when it comes to religion and ethnicity when 2 sides are so convinced of the rightness one generations have been involved in the fight the last in peace is a nuisance no doubt many are hoping nagorno-karabakh proves to be the exception. donald trump and joe biden have locked horns in the 1st u.s.

election debates of 2020 earlier my colleagues daniel hawkins on double quarter discussed the presidential flush which was a chaotic affair with no shortage of insults interruptions. listen respectfully to each other's opinions i'm not here to call others lies everybody knows he's a liar never use the word smart with me don't ever use that word give me because you know what there's nothing smart about you joe what do you she was out. there so you are number 2 he's putin's puppy i get my time back fewer interruptions i am appealing to you sir to do it him well frankly you've been doing more interrupting their cigarette but he just bloody well less than you will he's just shush for a minute why do you do it over again in the last 25 years not because you are wise you do it because you are president sure things you. as senator and the worst were resumes in america is there ever. a. hard to get any word with this clown director matters or that you know now that we're done we're done sir while then the american

people had big hopes for this debate after all that's happening on the backdrop of a global pandemic and a serious economic crisis but based on how both biden and trump conducted themselves i would say most people probably thought they were watching some sort of circus. you should get out of your bunker and get out of the say entrapping get in your golf course and fund what needs to be done now to save lives and he wants to shut down this country and i want to keep it open. but i had it close to greatest economy of the history of our country we handed him a booming economy he blew it was it a loon. he graciously the crime bill 1904 where you call the super predators african-americans the super predators and the moderator was barely able to hold this discourse together to stop it from completely devolving into insults and unsurprisingly we saw the mainstream media

pretty quickly send out already headlines blaming trump entirely for derailing the debate but as we just saw in that clip it takes 2 to tango and biden didn't exactly live up to his promise to bring dignity to politics we can do all that we need to do to make this country grown to restore we need to restore the integrity of the presidency of the office of presidency and humans to the american public had high hopes for this debate what's been the reaction so far while during the debate the moderator was able to get in a lot of questions that the american people really want answers to how the next administration is going to handle coronavirus relief racism police brutality the social unrest but the most important thing of all is how biden or trump actually respond to these questions and voters didn't seem to think that they did a very good job honestly is a very. painful response i don't think either them one this is just terrible all around this is very upsetting to watch that this is the best representation for our

country right now i don't think i can say that either you were one i think it was a twister it was a wild ride it went right when left there was a lot going on there was a lot of interruption it was crazy. to me that i don't think either one of them respected none of the other. and the economy seems to agree with those voters as well because right after the close of this chaotic debate we saw u.s. stock futures take a plunge and while both political camps have already started making political memes as if they're their guy won the debate everyday voters are really kind of taking a sort of i'd rather laugh than cry approach. and.

still ahead new york times readers are all in arms over the papers fact check of last night's debates live below us is all of us right after this break. join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm showbusiness i'll see if there. is you'll be a reflection of reality. in

a world transformed. what will make you feel safe. isolation community. are you going the right way or are you being so. direct. what is true what is fake. in the world corrupted you need to descend. to join us in the death. or in making the shallowness. hello again the new york times is under fire from its own readers over its coverage of choose the night's presidential debate the paper tweeted this screenshots of its fucked checking piece it shows a quote from joe biden claiming we left trump

a booming economy and he calls the recession the new york times flag faults and it's mostly liberal readers who are all impressed and this is the image you choose to include cancelling my subscription tomorrow i'm done with the this is ridiculous ludicrous shameful ok after decades of being a subscriber i'm going to have to cancel my subscription because the new york times continues to enable trump's fascism. so glad i cancelled my subscription to rag cannot believe you would choose a biden cool enough to trump just lied for 90 minutes. no better time than to cross to new york and speak to journalist and political commentator chadwick were a child of good to see you 1st of all apart from the leaving a booming economy part biden essentially came trump because the pun demick recession is that folds i believe i believe that's false i think the new york times actually did do

a proper check on this but of course its readers don't want to hear that its readers don't pay $40.00 a month to get facts they need to have their own opinions read back to them essential to have their viewpoints validated by the new york times so of course them didn't cause the recession it's the virus is a lockdown and you have all these 50 state governments that you could have avoided to blame but of course the last time this happened was when the new york times ran a headline in the last autumn and the front page headline was trump denounces racism and their audience also unsubscribed in mass and the times apologized because that headline and it just shows that their new york times readers are you know wealthy middle class white liberals who papers service a luxury brands not to get facts but a brand to have to live in an echo chamber to have their own views reported back to them they want to know good about their myopic view of the world of politics and

they do not want the facts and the time and. yeah i was going to say that why do you think that n.y.t. readers were so outraged by this one tweet given how much the paper actually favors biden over true. well that's the tyranny of the sort of left. each and every thought and fact and open discussion and debate one little tweak one little fact check which is undeniably true and the new york times readers lose their minds they don't care about the facts and the paper doesn't care about the facts and back to shocking that the paper actually backtracked that you know anything about the new york times which has become just a sort of a place to make its readers feel good about themselves and not educate but to massage and coddle and have people feel superior to others that they can quote the new york times more it is more surprising to actually do that which is which is

just indicative of where we're living today and where journalism is today yeah i should point out that the new york times fact check was heavily skewed against trump most of his claims were flagged as faults is their dislike of him overriding actual objectivity. of course it is and but we certainly can expect objectivity really from any media anymore and that never really has been that case people sort of think about the glory days of newspapers and and when there was more objective journalism that i don't think that's a reality that ever actually existed i think that's a fantasy i think that newspapers have always been aligned with one political party or the other but what we see now is this something like the new york times which declares itself so fervently to be the paper of record and to be the authoritative voice the news america they've really gone so far off the hinges where they won't even pretend to be to be biased or to pertain to give the other side a fair shake and. and i wonder if the person had that back to the job that would be interesting to see there are plenty of other fact check so if they're pulling apart

last night's debate but do you think voters are actually interested in that do they even care if their candidate is telling the whole truth or not on. no i think the trump supporters want to brigade the liberal fact checker for what they got wrong and there are many conservative fact checking outlets out there but the same for the liberals there's very very few undecided voters in this election according to polls if you trust them i think it's you are than 6 percent everyone has made up their mind everyone knows whether we're going to whether they're going to vote or not a lot of people are are planning to not vote mainly disaffected liberals who can't stand joe biden and everyone's already in a corner the people have been in the corners for 4 years so i don't think that the fact checks are really having any sort of. impact other than preaching to the choir and rallying the troops and and on the left making people feel good about their preconceived notions that some lies about everything which he hasn't but. just in a word or 2 well we've got time to do you expect a calmer more measured debate in the in the next round after so much criticism

after last night. i don't wonder because president trump was just the president but i think that book and it's a probably listened and maybe they will try to have a different approach because it was pretty cringe and that's what made it an ending i suppose chadwick as always thanks for your time on your thoughts chad with more live from new york journalist on political commentator thank you. i'm going to arkell has said she's planning to meets with the belorussian opposition leaders from atlanta taken off sky and who is currently in the having fled her country after the disputed presidential election last month and the german chancellor shares her feud that the vote was rigged. in the bios one doesn't think we do not recognize the legitimacy of the question because president see him to engage in dialogue with his people without interference from east or west we can down what's going on there on a daily basis specifically the derailment of democratic processes and the violence

perpetrated against the opposition german chancellor angela merkel has added her voice to calls from french president a manual for alexander lukashenko to step down as president of belarus micron had met with svetlana taken off the woman who ran against in august disputed election just earlier this week that meeting took place between the french president and mistaken following that meeting that crown said that he was willing to act as a mediator to get to the bottom of the impasse that followed that vote however there has been some questions over the fitness of mr micron to act as a mediator in a dispute he's already very publicly taken aside in or speaking or wetton state the german chancellor angela merkel said that she will also be holding her own meeting with svetlana taken off in a meeting of the news media i will meet with their positions to one off square one

we see brief women taking to the streets calling for corruption free life i cannot but it mire that. even with 2 of the power brokers in france and germany on the humming with or agreeing to meet with svetlana ticket it's hard to see how that sits alongside previous statements by emanuel must go on and angela merkel saying that there should be no outside interference in the future dollars. from class for us absolutely clear must find its way by itself and there must be no involvement from abroad the people of belarus know what they want and it was good for them. because we want the dialogue to take place among russians themselves with europe. and union is ready to take parts if that's what belorussians wants russia should also be included as part of that dialogue with moscow is unequivocal on this and says that these meetings are direct outside interference on the future of belarus that immediate putin's spokes person to me to the press corp saying that there was

tremendous external pressure on minsk and on alexander lukashenko right now we consider these decisions to be an arts with international law they clearly feel to facilitate dialogue and in effect and mountain meddling in internal affairs they expect more you belorussia talk coming this week on thursday and friday there is a special e.u. council summit taking place during that summit we can expect the future of sanctions on belarus and all alexander lukashenko and those close to him to be discussed you bring you all the latest on that as it happens. we are all very well that is how the midweek news update is shaping up for now i'll be back with more on whedon's these developments at the top of the hour do stay close nasr programs begin in moments discover what's on offer where you are today next.

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there's a different feel there's an existential quality to disallow action how many voters will say not my president after november 3rd. time after time here we're going underground i was off to democrat joe biden faced off republican president donald trump in the 1st us presidential debates of the 2 enjoyed the election.