the few bad apples not institutional racism today the trumpet ministration terminates the us 2020 census and one comedian and activist who has fought for sentence reform and bernie sanders is palestinian american comedian. thanks so much i have a coming on so even though we're looking forward to the v.p. debate i'm going to ask you what did you think of the great show of democracy in ohio last week where are your top politicians and in your country debated the issues of the day yeah i mean it wasn't very promising or exciting if you're an american who's interested in democracy i mean look it was chaotic and probably a lot of that helps donald trump i mean that chaos is something that he looks forward to because talking about actual policies doesn't help him and biden didn't do a great job i think either i think the biggest sort of losers in this debate were progressives when biden says as a centrist who still is subject to

a lot of criticism from the left when he says that donald trump sort of reassuring many americans that he said i am the democratic party that's not something that progressive like to hear the republican party has outperformed its popular support over the years because it's always appealed to its base and look for ways to expand right words and the democratic party hasn't looked at the how to expand the left word instead it always focuses on the center and that's always very muddy and loses a lot of potential support from the left a lot of the commentators the pro-democrat commentators said biden did well by not losing arguably but on the progressive issues that you mentioned given that come on harris has expressed support previously for the green new deal and the world has seen the pictures of the wildfires in the united states the climate crisis being arguably the existential threat to the earth how is she going to triangulate the position of not supporting the green. the deal on wednesday well unfortunately the

whole biden harris campaign and biden from the beginning and now harris since she's jumped on i mean let's not forget she supported the green new deal that she did and she supported medicare for all and then she didn't you know this whole campaign from the democrats has been predicated on appealing to this sort of middle of the road and i think sort of imaginary independent voter which you know has sort of reliably voted republican over the last few cycles why did obama win decisively twice because despite his shortcomings in actual policy he campaigned to the left he campaigned to progressivism and hope and change in these kinds of things by is not doing that at all biden is openly saying and harris now that she is joining him or openly saying look we're campaigning to the center these ideas that bernie sanders had i'm sure we're sort of giving them a little bit of lip service or we're not really going to do any of those things harris pence campaign will have less fireworks because it doesn't include donald

trump but it's going to be substantially very similar this debate coming up with harris and pence might be even more disappointing to progresses because it will be a lot clearer what's happening we don't have the tapes yet from the d.n.c. for wiki leaks like we did in 2016 when it was exposed that they were sabotaging bernie sanders who you are sorry get off but surely there is electoral sense here the fact is biden has can take your vote for granted then all of the support is vote for granted anyway yeah i mean that is the way they seem to be campaigning and i don't know why they didn't learn the lessons of 2016 or simply look at what the republicans of done over the years to over perform the way that you want to campaign is that you expand your base and expand the people that you appeal to what bernie sanders did successfully and as he brought in people who had not been involved in the electoral process before that's why he would be killed. trump right

now because he'd have traditional democratic voters and an expanded base of brand new voters what biden did very quickly is he constricted that progressive base told them look you're not really welcome here i'm not going to be with medicare for all i'm not going to be with a green new deal i'm not going to say that people shouldn't die simply because they can't afford their health care i'm going to stick to private health care i'm going to be very hawkish with israel i'm not going to talk clearly about palestinian rights all these things right he's going to appeal to the middle of that is a recipe for a loss and what they're saying to us is you have to vote for us no we don't you know no we don't i mean look i'm probably going to walk into a voting booth in michigan in november and i'm probably going to vote for joe biden but i still have 2 more debates to watch and i still have to worry about my community and my community the arab american community which is very large here especially in michigan is not just going to blindly go along with biden cause he's

not trump ok trump is terrible we don't really look at trump we don't look at the g.o.p. because they don't look at us but if the democrats are going to look at us as arab americans and ask progressive as a voting bloc then they need to treat us with the respect that we deserve ok we didn't hear too much about foreign policy at that debate perhaps the next presidential debate we will what do you make of this man and to the blinken who was top aide to biden when he voted for the iraq war i understand he's a top foreign policy adviser during this election campaign probably a seat at the table in the oval office should biden when he said the 2002 vote for the legal iraq war was a vote for tough diplomacy well he's still the top foreign policy advisor for the biden campaign he's if biden wins will probably be a national security advisor or something like that and yes he is hawkish there is a sort of cabal of neo liberal hawkish foreign policy. people that are at the

center of the biden foreign policy thinking and this is very dangerous especially for the arab world in the muslim world i mean say what you want to bout trump he has a lot of terrible things about him especially domestically but he's sort of like an isolationist what it comes to military action and he has engaged in a lot of military action at least as far as american standards go in the last 4 years and especially in the arab world and so it's a very fearful actually for a biden foreign policy and you have tony blinken who told arab american and palestinian communities this year that palestinians are to blame for our problems he told us that he repeated these lines of never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity he told us that one of the conditions of the biden campaign or the by the administration on palestinians will be have to have to outwardly accept that israel is a jewish state these are nonstarters for palestinians not one word about occupation remember this is a campaign a foreign policy led by blinking and biden that refused to include the word

occupation in the democratic party platform so where are we going to be left ok we're going to be left with that in ministration that doesn't completely shut us out like the trumpet ministration but in some ways is that worse when they let you in the door and say that they did and still don't do anything you want some people in our community believe that it's better to stick remain oppositional on the outside that we can get more solidarity from other communities by being on the outside of remaining oppositional then playing a game with it in ministration that has 50 years of experience of protecting israel from any criticism in the world we need to criticize the biden platform now if he wins let him know that we were not taken for granted and that we need to be included clearly in the new administration and our objections need to be preserved if anyone wants to want your amazing video about arab americans they they should def. you want to just tell me about that specially on the census day but i think

what i'm getting at here is we don't really know how many arab americans there are and if they don't vote for biden we know how small the swings were the broad trying to power could actually ironically arab americans be critical to electing bible in the 1st place yeah i mean we could you know we're hundreds of thousands strong here in michigan and michigan could be the state that it all comes down to and it's not only michigan we have strong communities in florida which is a swing state and pennsylvania as well and so the question is look you want to get into a booth secretly and vote for biden that's fine but celebrating him and organizing for him is a major major endorsement without getting anything in return yeah i might vote for biden but i'm not going to endorse him or organize form in fact quite the opposite i'm going to keep questioning him and criticizing him up until and after election day so he knows that we're not something to be taken for granted if he wins as arab americans we can swing this election maybe we did in 2016 when trump only won

michigan by 10000 votes and i live in a neighborhood here and there are dearborn michigan that has more than 10000 arabs just in this neighborhood so i mean they have to be very careful they cannot take us for granted and sometimes i'm worried about our own community because biden muttered in scholl law at the debate with trump and all of a sudden a lot of people went crazy oh my god he said a word in arabic but what does that matter when he is telling palestinians that they don't deserve the same human rights as israelis when he is still saying that he wants to have strong relations with the saudi government when he is still you know praising these normalization deals with the u.a.e. and behind we have to be very careful not to accept crumbs you know aht i like homeless or saying and shahla is i think that's enough for you guys throwing there right now i mean of course the you alluded to it that the obama biden administration was brutal on the arab world i mean you look at. b.-a today we have

a refugee crisis in the mediterranean do you think in any way that biden would change his stance on being a zionist on the move of the u.s. embassy in jerusalem of reducing weapons sales to israel that are hitting gaza he's actually said on the record all sales of weapons to israel must never be conditional we have absolutely no evidence that biden is going to be open to palestinian concerns and we have to be very careful as palestinians and those who might show solidarity with palestinians not to let trump be the one who set the bar look trump is terrible trump is transactional he's pro zionist because he either doesn't know any better or he thinks he's going to get evangelical votes in the south but biden is an actual zionist like he actually believes in these things from a geo political strategy point of view and that's very dangerous and so far he's told us that he might return things to they way they were under the obama administration you know restoring funding to on rwa open up a p.l.o. mission in d.c.

but very very importantly without jerusalem he said very clearly he won't move the embassy back to tell of eve he won't even consider it he said very clearly before that if they're warning israel we'd have to invent one he said very clearly before i'm a zionist these are things that palestinians in america and arabs in america and those who profess solidarity with the palestinian question here in america need to take very seriously and question very seriously and if you stay quiet during a campaign no matter how you end up voting but if you stay quiet during a campaign well that's approval of what he's doing and saying and it's not going to win you a meaningful seat at the table when things are done it's ok let me say the arabs around the world and arabs in america it's ok to say no to a politician every now and then it's ok to be oppositional you don't have to jump and scream when he says i'm shallow on t.v. you don't have to jump and scream when he says he's better than trump his policies are very very dangerous for us they've been very dangerous for us and we have to be

very clear and critical about that thank you. thank you after the break from rampant environmental destruction to the staggering death toll of the u.s. war on drugs can collective acts help to heal collective trauma we are asking legendary holy men to the top of filmmaker john or off speak about his new film psycho magic even though it's all the same all coming up about doing going underground. be a prison conflict no he's not going to the court is not a very hot we tell you what you need to know and it is america in 2020 similar events. bolshevik revolution in 1007.

welcome back in paul one we discussed the upcoming presidential election in the u.s. next month throughout the course of the campaign period many of question to find all of the candidates can do anything to change a world that appears to be rapidly heading towards destruction in the face a rising coronavirus death toll a new cold war imminent environmental catastrophe and a political plus that appears to be in no rush to change the status quo so if it's down to the people how can collective acts of healing and resistance save humanity an issue explored in psycho magic the healing arts a new film by legendary surrealist filmmaker. going on the ground deputy editor charlie cook spoke to him via skype from paris to discuss the film as well as a new 4 k. box set of his classic works out now. and that is you know him in the sequel

next year. eleanor thank you so much for joining us and going underground just start by telling me about your new film psycho magic healing on when. 'd they call me the. wrote that document theory. because they documented e.s.p. co the best. scene we know we may commentaries but cycle maybe there was an expedient of really in deep in a sense we have it better still how we approach him is psychological problem. need to healing in front of the committee with a very difficult recourse when joining in front of a governmental you're not really you know as usual to make you want to add to. but

they're there and then we need to show them in a very delicate way you know to the photo it she will make invented real and it's because of the ocean silver lake 18 the lake you know the team on the hill myself this thought i might have to. do this you did you only have. to do it that it's an. issue for you. you've been practicing it since the seventy's and you compare at the beginning of the film to the work of freud just explain how that the difference between psychoanalysis and psycho magic then we had a feeling the soul of the the. 'd seiko you could. fight well against say oh must rule who come ashore from the shuttle

take an early see what the length of the yes she and defeat. scene were fairly. a. seiko my ego has a right to that i am not at the east coast the psychoanalysis actor with the worst seiko my shielding with weak act psychoanalysis she's kind of a load of 6 i'll probably be sacred at least that because they cannot touch it bessel. can not. 'd it cause it that he's he seemed pussy were and then the. seiko magic say no the pull the. not the only a 6 a logik a week and they the evil the. make you must. they hate that the feeling you had your own feeling as.

you mentioned that the touching aspect of it in the film a lot of the a lot of the therapy is done through tops and 3 people touching each other do you think you are kind of in a way vindicated by coronavirus because now people realize how important touch is they couldn't nobody knows he's sick complicate. asterix it's an illness but also he said political settlement unlikely finnell me if it don't do many thing to speak that week day week calendar because we can only leave the decoder now reduced he sick a sicko many of the laboratories the one a little money already saved me the as a politician the major most close but it would be cause for the president if it

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it will do is we need one to the others and we need to became more. and then we have the illness and then wish to have to change to shave. some but i've eats. the we will do it did that i want to address something you discussed in the film about social psycho magic on a on a on a knowledge of scale in the film you show mexicans expressing pain at the 70000 people who died in the drug war how out essential like a magic walk on a scale of that size. that is to the that the psycho magique. person to person for some g.s. low and then. we realize it is in with the thoughts. we're not a one who had to collect d.d.t.

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we feed the computer data on coming boys and revolutions. it tells us what kind of toys to produce to condition children from the. i don't want to talk about the holy mountain because you said i read into these that when you're making that phone you're acting like a prophet and i just wanted to know where how you how it was sorry prescient and how that film got so many things right about the wild we now live in today make it straight. it's dope or with human thrown him over it sit bundy cool the game is saying she still thinks he's making this year the sequel but i can tell i was why don't i stop that there must be a how to be happy. and then the in the holy moment he says oh they call it delete they they say to make it big show look not this building many studies you know it became no stream but i they only seen they will said my

since we had earlier episode she said is she the truth sales sheet of the. book. what we will do it we will we want to know the secret of the human being we have a brain who is a mystery we live in a planet we don't know what is in the day or 2 that were planted we had it we are the other thing in the universe we all know one percent of the universe we are in europe and i mean the in the early in the month in 10 months where all the outcomes we will know how east the evening meet with since i know if. i were to satisfy their limits of chemistry i mean but finite. sorted in techniques of i like them in. recent more weakly recombined i think nick's.

we're speaking of a lot what is well worth big you know truth what is truth we are living in countries but this country is in evolution because there are no countries from tears that move leaves their chain you know all the time where we are living where we are fighting way there the political out i'd like them lift what is right what is the lift there the same quality tone for the broader me for the human being . it is illegal and of business no 'd like the political level a lesser like or the. 'd 'd border thirty's who are making vaccines it's only business we're we're electing this kind of prissy that you know the planet due to they then know that the stick and pencil are there then they have my danielle might they have might they be on monday monday monday that's human being kind of stalled . yes get the president to leave you got it if you also favor i

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in the planets because a week on rico a. week on because i'm so full so nice they're coming out so close in a week and some. so let's see thank you so much for your time. thank you to you film director her off see that as we going to going underground deputy editor charlie cook in psycho magic a healing artist streaming now that's in the show will be back when zinj a lens of scribed going underground on you tube so you don't miss an interview and join the underground by following up on twitter facebook instagram.

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