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the package for those in ukraine affected by conflict in coronavirus the u.k.'s defacto support of azerbaijan meanwhile has left some questioning whether you can involve men in this week's violence in nagorno-karabakh will stretch further than just cause for a cease fire half the region's population has been displaced by the fighting on wednesday's show we spoke to azerbaijan's ambassador to the u.k. who claimed armenia is the sole aggressor in the conflict that has reportedly cost hundreds of lives you can catch up with that interview on our you tube channel but to hear from the other side joined from armenia's capital yerevan by a member of parliament and its committee on the protection of human rights and public affairs maria. thank you so much area for coming on so as i said we had the ambassador and he said it's your country that are solely to blame is that true and what are the numbers a your hearing of the numbers killed or injured as i'm watching all the interviews that the president and. even in east asia war that he has they
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are never in a crowd in. the i mean stare i see every single one of these interviews as a concession. how he attacked never in a car bomb and as an attempt to justify why he shouldn't they themselves are saying that our niña is they're blaming our year for being interested in cementing because that was quite right expressed their frustration with that as well so they themselves explain why any new has no interest in attacking 1st and trying to make the argument from their perspective showing that even from the point of view that they're trying to present to the world all they're doing is trying to justify why they have waged this new phase of war against everton you say they started it are you saying armenian soldiers or members of the armenian community none of them
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fired the 1st shot you say that i mean years not shelled gunja the town that we saw pictures of where they were which shows destruction. what i'm saying is that on the 27th of september when peace new phase of the war started it's the kind of get which is enough hard to abort a car it's not on the line of country came under massive shelling bombs precipitate us the time to get or already more than 10 days and obviously the defense army of no where in a car up needs to keep the defense entering text is the 1000000000 population of. entity response in symmetry to today's attack moreover you know there have been numerous reports and leaders of countries have come forward justifying that azerbaijan has completely changed the nature of. my engagement foreign terrorist interest with the help of troops and ohio and this fight is no
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no where that old you know we're in a car buckle big that we used to know he's the defense army and never in a crowd are fighting against international terrorism you know that of course britain supported the rebels ehe in syria to overthrow assad in syria might be that as it may the azerbaijani about to said why would they need syrian rebels who might not even be able to speak the same language they have enough troops to defend azerbaijan without using troops they were helping britain overthrow president assad in syria. of course it's a big question why has your by jeremy has sold the alps its sovereignty to turkey and now it's to bring its own agenda at whatever retesting to drink anything neighborhoods in the media east to export that stories of dynamics to our beaches of course or by john has to answer that question what was its interest why did it
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messed up. with its own population equal absolute foreign terrorist fighters knowing that peace can have long term consequences for their own internal dynamics well they say they are there may be foreign contractors guarding energy infrastructure but then or taking al qaeda and isis to outer syria to fight against your country i want to clear something up as imagines a president's office tweeted armenia has fired at the backward to please e.j. and pipeline and correspondent obviously we can independently verify a lot of things that are going on specially what the attack you refer to a moment ago our correspondent question how israeli cluster munitions used by azerbaijan normally could have been used by armenia what do you make of this pipeline incident 300 cluster bomb that has a johns presidents is accusing your country of using that sonali in intent
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to draw either countries became ssion to the fact that the energy resources that are being exported from azerbaijan are under threat from armenia we are smarter than that you know not to try to get the energy infrastructures knowing the consequences that this will happen besides the fact that it's. a crime and i think that maybe leads to a humanitarian crises and at your previous point you're absolutely right the rest scenarios are giving interviews saying that they have been lied to as to what why they have contacts or by just saying they thought they're coming to protect a certain. we structure our pool and we're thrown into the into the fighting and this is again something that azerbaijan should respond to like it's time that it has import it is going to fight terrorist almost no journalists that are reporting from the ground and he has closed down also show media and the coverage of the
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conflict from its territory but these foreign fighters themselves are speaking up about the violence that it may have been engaged in azerbaijan say they're not allowing journalists to monitor events because it's for their own safety britain is the biggest foreign investor in azerbaijan what would you say to britain and other nato members. as regards their fellow partner turkey being involved in this conflict well of course it should be of concern of all of the international community as a whole all nato countries because we see it also of the military means of turkey being used in the military exercises that happened in august of this war at least very organic continuation 'd because treaty didn't remove its personnel and its military equipment from the territory of ice or its stake there and is being used all the personnel the. the 10 commandments and also the arms are being used against
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peaceful population of never in a car and week since day one of this new stage of war we have a call to the international community and shit that this is no longer only about her in a car or in the end i mean you know people this is about the larger region and if we allow the south caucuses to be corinthian church international terrorism it's not going to stop there it's going to expand around to beat but you don't think any i see from your side perhaps a defensive retaliation against turkish troops stationed in as i'm a john you don't see the britain we. duty bound perhaps under article 5 of the nato treaty to respond by protecting turkey against armenia protecting turkey against armenia. 19000000 population nato member needs protection from a 3000000 neighboring nation i think that already is
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a response to your question never necrotic sense are true to its name will defend its syrian population but it is not an aggressor and what that world needs to do is to contain the violence that has been accomplished against these people rather than worry about at the heart safety is iran supporting you they've had to evacuate civilians from their border with kenya and azerbaijan well of course iran is following the situation in our region very carefully and our colleagues. or any in government have come forward with statements saying that it is unacceptable that any other. attacks should also affect their territory and their borders and they should be more adamant about this i think at this point in time there is no longer a question about who started as i said at the beginning of this interview every
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single statement i am yes is a testimony a confession of why he's war is quote unquote just you know it all you fired the 1st shot and you surely can understand that i mean according to the u.n. security council resolutions 822-853-8748 date for even watching the president interview the president azerbaijan's interviews they were all endorsed by russia and china the whole of karabakh is in as a major. i'm telling you crystal clear us in 10 or 27 we woke up to a shock that i know of context and the heart of nowhere in a car being attacked by a survived and there is no doubt about this further resolutions that are often scientists by military entity computer ship press or by jet they come from 1903 when the 1st network
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a car bomb war was over and they had no mention of the republic of ireland yet. as regards to launching attacks on azerbaijan all they're doing is calling for the republic of crimea to use into the mix with the armenians of karbala to stabilize the situation there and following these resolutions after 993 the nowhere near karbala leadership the army and these are shipped and yes or by telling leadership and signed a cease fire agreement and who launched the oystein least group could cherish the peace process so everything that has happened before that was a situational response to the 1st number and a car of war and a negotiation process drew a line to get in with the ceasefire to address the underlying causes of the conflict and come up with a solution do you agree with your prime minister they call passion and then that this is a fight to the death and what does that actually mean i served my time in turkey
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can't tolerate a democracy in their neighborhood you know make the ballot revolution in iran you know we put our country on a path of a true democracy and this shows big contrast be very sick so they have what wage this war also into 2 trips to try to anything. that the new point democracy affirming and yes it is vital for our existence otherwise your team wouldn't have dared to come to the south caucasus again. a 100 years nature given the context of the ireland general strike at helping the 90000 it would keep its hands out of the south caucasus knowing that there is the genocide in its own past to be addressed so why has it come to the south caucasus again well president lee have his declared turkey must be part of any future talks i'm just finally and briefly going to ask you and we write the direction bastard in london on the show is people
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around the world probably know about the from kim kardashian who has been tweeting in support of armenia what about reports that she has close ties to jared kushner what are you hearing from the united states administration about what side the u.s. is going to take in this battle when it's exactly because of the genocide of 950 and i mean yes are spread all over the entire globe and of course there are many prominent armenians citizens of marion you know homeland and that feels identity we their people and their historic comments i can't comment on the party representing alex and their connections and the u.s. administration all i can do is welcome the efforts of these people even i mean you are not an armenian around the world that come up with their solidarity and express
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their support or for a peaceful resolution of america about you and thank you thank you after the break who's in charge in kyrgyzstan after an old election apparent mass protests and an assault on the country's parliament we ask kyrgyzstan's current ambassador to the united kingdom want to political forces his president is alleging are behind the chaos dollars or more coming i'm about to i'm going underground. lead.
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a going to karabakh that some see as the opening of another front in the new cold war just weeks after u.n. secretary general i'm joined in the chair as stressed that the world faces a 1945 moment but i mean you know the way john aren't the only former soviet union countries currently facing up evil in kyrgyzstan this week a parliamentary election has been an old apartment building has been stormed in violent protests and the prime minister has resigned all in the wake of accusations of vote rigging and vote buying the president sauron biogen because of has accused political forces of trying to illegally seized power so what political forces he referring to let's ask is ambassador london either by some of who joins me now ambassador thanks so much for going in there in the studio some people may know that kyrgyzstan is one of the most beautiful countries in central asia now they're seeing pictures of violence on the streets of the capital bishkek what are the political forces behind the revolution this week. well you know we've had some up here also over the last years and this is the continuation of the story of
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the curtis peoples the freedom loving people of when we celebrate the corridor while we use the character of our people who once again said that they will not accept that is alts of that aid elections that will result in the in some sort of. privatization of the state what we had on sunday it is a parliamentary elections was that tempt of a coup de tat you know is using taking advantage of our power to our people especially during the heart of the year one not torrijos persons they decided that they could bribe their vote buying massive massive unseeing level of massive vote buying and that is all that could have purchased the whole state the whole parliament for the next you know decade or 2 that saw as they thought but it was the whole political class and supported by the people who are always up and said
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they will not allow it and then the situation developed really quickly because. you know everyone felt the same and you may be surprised at me as an ambassador there i haven't thought i was going to say the support of the bill in the french ambassador to britain when we show pictures. or the u.s. ambassador to london does not speak up for blackmail now this is popularly supported this isn't and it is not against the current government or the president or who are running this elections it was a ganz those forces with right to steal the elections from their people and we are going to be and it is you need to see it and the stent in the context of the hall recent history of kyrgyzstan we had the you know our 1st of all this of just 1005 and then iran's. just 1010 so this is the launch of a continuation of the continued he said that it the nation building process of our
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people so why is the international media saying sally. was sprung out of jail has become the new prime minister of turkey went to war and of resigned who had only a few toes and he won the election as it as it happens usually doing this type of. stories but i had to take to treat that of course to call on the international media to stop assigning all official status to all reports of this type of news that my made thing from my capital because we have the sitting in the current parliament you know we have the continuing fox functioning parliament we have the continue they said this in the hotel sense other than yours that's why they don't go to the bars that's why you wouldn't report on the new hotel meeting over a fraction of a number of members of parliament as anything official you know you need the
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decorum he needs a quorum he needs a procedure it's the due process that's why. we have we are not than findings that new. prime minister read that we is that transitional government yes they're all government has a design they are continuing to act as a capacity but we are looking and it probably can take days or it can take weeks but this is how democracy looks like this is where the process of the political process where where there are various sites there's a very active civil society there is this use in the streets who are demanding are absolutely new faces there as this you know various political parties and we. sure are you that we will find. a compromise as a way of out of it and we will in ensures. that there is peace and order there and then when we have this conditions we will have the new parliamentary elections
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because the sensitivity here is that it could be a color revolution we've seen what's happening in the we saw haven't enjoyed her all that time ago have people very conscious this could be a color revolutions are nato is backing one side or the other i mean do you trust a sudden jump or all of it was he was indeed convicted of violent hostage taking his sentence meant that he wouldn't be released from prison till 2027 and then in the media it's like he's become prime minister you know run out of years ago talked about the that we need to take or all of this news is a grain of salt to put it mildly no there are this legitimate forces that are very much. you know what's the current you know because the former there are statesman and we have the active civil society and we have the support of the
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whole international community is that we've seen statements from all our friends who is we the people there in all her prime minister who is sort of elected yes is not on the in for you until you should do you need to do we need to just because there is no new prime minister yet but it's definitely not a color of a listen you know where and when you know as i suppose the western wall meant or something is there i'd stand and trying to change the foreign affairs the politics of our country and all we are where we are in central asia and we have a very good relations with all our important factor in our neighbors in our we are we neighbor china in all ways i was the digic partner we are allies in the. collective security treaty or we are members of the eurasian economic union this is nothing of your silly. elations with syria with belarus with venezuela suddenly
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changing tack and suddenly the who were the european union is and is not then why give us your your and this is probably going to be my job to say this is that has nothing to do its foreign politics. international involvement this is currently internal affairs of our country and we will emerge from it we will emerge and remain on the same course we've been russia's have bases safe russia because this is a safe we are counting on the russian government to act as their stability is in force they 'd will have to acknowledge they are all in all it's very important we as a most important trading partner and politically we have a huge diaspora in russia so as a position we'll be very important then i make no mistake this is this has nothing to do with any international politics this is purely a domestic quarrel which is going to be results all because the us used. to fight
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in afghanistan although donald trump is says he's reducing the numbers are still good relations with the united states as well well you know or the united states and the you know european union the organization for security cooperation in europe actually i can point you to the fact that the u.s. embassy was the 1st to congratulate the people of kurdistan and the government is that's why anyone became suspicious successful elections so that's why this one again and as it was there said that this has nothing to do with any extortion all forces this is purely. a matter of politics and i would like to point you to the fact that we are one country that has been said defied our elections as free and fair as the previous. several cycles we have state of the art electronic system biometric data so the usual falsification when ballot stuffing or
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you know this multiple voting or just outright file sufficient of the printer cause they do not work they do not work and that's why the all new way to somehow influence the outcome of elections is their vote buying and unfortunately we cannot do much about it but we never expected that one force called be using your last several dozen millions of dollars and just purchase out that vote of the people that's the problematic technically. international observers did not find anything wrong with the elections itself we spoke to the foreign secretary tony grab here because there were rumors that the united kingdom not only wants a trade deal with kyrgyzstan it also wants to somehow have influence in central asia by using care against the. no i would not support. the 'd states
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a group that it but we are in touch is the foreign office and is our colleague. in her majesty's government but i do not think that the united kingdom will be having this idea that they can act as a mediator because they wouldn't draw a lot of signal in the security council of having this important. place in our community but. once again what like to repeat that this is purely there are no affairs and we would like respectfully request all sides to have passions it is us and wait out for the people of pakistan will solve this issues i mean maybe do conspiracy theorists but on paper you know you took a loan 120900000 from the i.m.f. in mud and then here we see unrest there's new connection between kyrgyzstan's reliance on money from the washington consensus that you got in march and all these
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events there's nothing on there's not in the people on the streets there is nothing of that sort there's nothing to do it is that you know we have some external debt but again find it ridiculous to believe that somehow going to stand as a cook is purple is not able to be based on you know we have it under control our economy is also experiencing as any economy around the world to be experiencing huge unobvious of that that pressure but this has some in director all the economic situation as a set the the people who are older workers as i call him the virus the there. and then exaggeration it has to be said kyrgyzstan is not like an emerging economy that just does whatever the big multinational mining companies do you don't think that it is the exercising of sovereignty that is creating suspicion. in major countries that they have to they have to exert an influence over this key country
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in central asia their world as it is today you know all this things happening around the world in particularly in a few key countries it's they have enough arms on their plate not to worry about what's going on in my country and this was completely unexpected just the international community and we do not see now we do not see any international involvement in the events unfolding in kyrgyzstan so what to the next they'll be the election we also make it fair this time yes really we'll see. we will be passion be real seek the national compromise we will put everybody the around the table and already of course negotiations are taking place we are talking to each other everyone is interested in peace and order and no one is will be taking some more lopsided unilateral decisions we will be seeking national compromise we will
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install the new interim government which will be led by a charismatic political leader who enjoys the support of the people of kurdistan and will be credible on the international stage and then it will it will probably take time a few months to install peace and order ensure that there are conditions for democratic elections sometime this winter and master thank you thank you for having me that's it for the show will be back on monday to hear from one of president trump's congregation pastor dental scored who claims all job is the most pro black president ever to occupy the white house until then join the only woman you tube instagram sound cloud twitter and facebook. lockdown as a shifting away people's relationship but there are. losses of their companies of how do you account for costs. down to the granularity of toilet paper and the
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