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with the help of triplets and ohio and this fight is no know where the old you know we're in a car because the that we used to know these is the defense army and never in a crowd are fighting against international terrorism. you know that of course britain supported the rebels easy in syria to overthrow assad in syria but be that as it may the azerbaijani about to said why would they need syrian rebels who might not even be able to speak the same language they have enough troops to defend azerbaijan without using troops that were helping britain overthrow president assad in syria of course it's a big question why has your by jeremy has sold out it's already to turkey and now it's too grainy to own agenda at what henriques being to remake anything neighborhoods demeter east to export that stories of dynamics to our beach and of course as a writer has to answer that question what was its interest why did it mess up. with
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its own population equal for a terrorist fighters knowing that peace can have long term consequences for their own internal dynamics well they say they are there may be foreign contractors guarding energy infrastructure but then or taking al qaeda and isis day ash out of syria to fight against your country i want to clear something up as a mage on president's office tweeted armenia has fired at the backward tbilisi j n pipeline and correspondent obviously we can't independently verify a lot of things that are going on specially what the attack you referred to a moment ago our correspondent question how israeli cluster munitions used by azerbaijan normally could have been used by armenia what do you make of this pipeline incident 300 cluster bomb that as a johns presidents is accusing your country of using that sonali in an intent
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to draw either country's attention to the fact that the energy resources that are being exported from azerbaijan are under threat from armenia we are smarter than that you know not to try to get their energy infrastructures knowing. the consequence is that based look at besides the fact that it's. a crime and i think that maybe leads to a humanitarian crises and to your previous point you're absolutely right the rest of the areas are giving interviews saying that they have been lied to as to what why they have come to that search by just saying they thought they're coming to protect a certain infrastructure or and were thrown into the into the fighting and this is again something that azerbaijan should respond to like it's time that it has import it is going to fight terrorist almost like journalists that are reporting from the ground and he has closed down also show media and the coverage of the conflict from
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its territory but these foreign fighters themselves are speaking up about the violence that it may have been engaged in azerbaijan say they're not allowing journalists to monitor events because it's for their own safety britain is the biggest foreign investor in azerbaijan what would you say to britain and other nato members. as regards their fellow partner turkey being involved in this conflict well of course it should be of concern of all of the international community as a whole all nato countries because we see it also of the military means of turkey being used in the military exercises that happened in august of this war at least very organic continuation because treaty didn't remove its personality needs military equipment from the territory of ice or it stayed there and is being used all the personnel the to the country the commandments and also the arms are being
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used against peaceful population of nebraska car and wheat since day one of this new stage of war we have a call to the international community attention that this is no longer only about a car. or in the end i mean you know people this is about the larger region and if we allow the south caucuses to be current theater of international terrorism it's not going to stop there it's going to expand around to beat but you know the guinea i see from your side perhaps a defensive retaliation against turkish troops stationed in as i'm a john you don't see the britain we duty bound perhaps under article 5 of the nato treaty to respond by protecting turkey against armenia protecting turkey against armenia. 19000000 population a nato member needs protection from a 3000000 neighboring nation i think that already is
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a response to to your question never necrotic sense aren't true to its name will defend its about syrian population but it is not an aggressor and what the world needs to do is to contain the violence that has been home ph against these people rather than worry about the heart safety is iran supporting you they've had to evacuate civilians from their border with kenya and azerbaijan well of course iran is following the situation in our region very carefully and our colleagues. if you or any and governments have come forward with statements saying that it is unacceptable that any other. attacks should also affect their territory and their borders and they should be more adamant about these i think at this point in time there is no longer
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a question about who started as i said at the beginning of this interview every single statement i actually have is a testimony a confession of why he's war is quote unquote just you know it all you fired the 1st shot and you surely can't understand that. i mean according to the u.n. security council resolutions 822-853-8748 date for you've been watching the president interviews the president as a by john's interviews they were all endorsed by russia and china they go to karabakh is in as a major. i'm telling you crystal clear us in 10 or 27 we woke up to a shock if the line of contact and the hard hit number in a car after being attacked by halves are better there is no doubt about this for their resolutions that are often scientists by military entity computer ship press or by jet they come from 1903 when the 1st network in
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a car bomb war was over and they had no mention of the republic of ireland yet. as regards to launching attacks on azerbaijan all they're doing is calling for the republic of crimea to use into the next with the armenians of karbala to stabilize the situation there and following these resolutions after 993 the nowhere near karbala leadership the army and the entire ship and yes or by telling leadership and signed a cease fire agreement and launched the oystein least group could cherish the peace process so everything that has happened before that was a situational response to the 1st number and a car of war and a negotiation process drew a line to get in with the ceasefire to address the underlying causes of the conflict and come up with a solution do you agree with your prime minister they call passion and then that this is a fight to the death and what does that actually mean as
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a writer an entity can't just tolerate a democracy in their neighborhood you know make them valid revolution in iran you know we put our country on the path of a true democracy and peace shows big contrast be very sick so they have what waged this war also during 2 trips to try to anything. that the new point democracy affirming and yes it is vital for our existence otherwise your team wouldn't have dared to come to the south caucasus again. a 100 years nature given the context of the army lieutenant strike at helping the 90000 it would keep its hands out of the south caucasus knowing that there is the genocide in its own past to be addressed so why has it come to the south caucasus again well president lee have his declared turkey must be part of any future talks i'm just finally and briefly going to ask you and we write the direction bastard london on the show is
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people around the world probably know about. from kim kardashian who has been tweeting in support of armenia what about reports that she has close ties to jared kushner what are you hearing from the united states administration about what side the u.s. is going to take in this battle when it's exactly because of the genocide of 980 and i mean yes are spread all over the entire globe and of course there are many prominent armenians citizens of marion you know homeland and they feel solidarity with their people and their historic comments i can't comment on the party representing alex and their connections and the u.s. administration all i can do is welcome the efforts of these people you them i mean you are not an armenian around the world that come up with their solidarity and express their support or for
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a peaceful resolution of america about you and thank you thank you after the break who's in charge in kyrgyzstan after an old election apparent mass protests and an assault on the country's parliament we ask kyrgyzstan's current ambassador to the united kingdom want to political forces his president is alleging a behind the chaos dollars or more coming i'm about to have going underground. well the demick know certainly no border is just blind to nationalities. as america we caught up with the we don't have the facts the whole world needs to be. people. judging us commentary classes please listen to. we can do better we should.
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everyone is contributing each of our own way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenges critical to response has been masked so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we're in it together. the lockdown has shifted away relationship with their bosses of their companies and how do you account for costs. down to the granularity of toilet paper and the only industry i know where toilet paper costs are incorporated in the p. and l. a monthly or weekly basis is in the prison business.
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nuclear become a battleground in the us. people are demanding the shut down of a local plant from my yankee is right now my focus because it's a very dangerous oh no clare power plant the owner is attempting to run the reactor beyond its operational limit this case just sort of puts a magnifying glass on where's the power in this country where's it going is it moving more towards corporate interests or is it more in the idea of a traditional participatory democracy is your power lies with the people this case demonstrates that struggle in very real ways our struggle. as the us economy was booming growing numbers of people were made homeless. you can work 40 hours 'd in a week and still not have enough to get housing everybody believes america still has the lead up to the reality of it we're not financially equality and the lack of
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affordable housing for a living minimum wage gave many people no choice you know there's been a problem with the city knows turn the temperature in told me stay away only. because you have some recourse resource the most vulnerable and abandoned on the streets to become invisible comes. welcome back about one we spoke to a member i mean his parliament about the violence in a goner karabakh that some see as the opening of another front in the new cold war just weeks after u.n. secretary general i'm joined in the chair as stressed that the world faces a 1945 moment but i mean you're out of a john are the only former soviet union countries currently facing up evil in
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kyrgyzstan this week a parliamentary election has been an old apartment building has been stormed in violent protests and the prime minister has resigned all in the wake of accusations of vote rigging and vote buying the president sauron biogen because of has accused political forces of trying to illegally seized power so what political forces is he referring to that's because ambassador to london either by some of who joins me now ambassador thanks so much for going in there in the studio some people may know them carry us down as one of the most beautiful countries in central asia now they're seeing pictures of violence on the streets of the capital bishkek what are the political forces behind the revolution this week. well you know we've had some up here also over the last years and this is the continuation of the story of the curtis peoples the freedom loving people of when we celebrate the corridor while we use the character of our people who once again said that they will not
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accept that as alts of that they get the elections that will result in the in some sort of. privatization of the state what we had on sunday it is a parliamentary elections was that tempt of a coup de tat you know is using taking advantage of our power to our people especially during the heart of the year one not torrijos persons they decided that they could bribe there was a vote buying massive massive unseeing level of massive vote buying and that is solved a could have purchased the whole state the whole parliament for the next you know decade or 2 the whole as they thought but it was the whole political class and supported by the people who are always up and said they will not allow it and then the situation developed really quickly because. you know everyone felt the same
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and you may be surprised at me as an ambassador there i haven't thought i was going to say the support of the in the french ambassador to britain when we show pictures of those oh yeah. or the u.s. ambassador to london does not speak up for blackmail mabus is popularly supported this isn't and it is not against the current government or the president or who are running this elections it was a ganz those forces with right to steal the elections from their people and we are going to be and it is you need to see it and the stand in the context of the whole recent history of kyrgyzstan we had the you know our 1st of all this of just 1005 and then iran's. just 1010 so this is a launch a continuation of the continued he said it the nation building process of our people so why is the international media saying so the jumper of was sprung out of jail has become the new prime minister of her ago went to war and of resigned who
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could only if you know you as anyone the l.a. as it as it happens usually doing this type of. stories but i had to take to it that of course to call on the international media to 'd stop assigning all official status to all reports of this type of news that my mating from my capital because we have the sitting the current parliament you know we have the continuing fox functioning parliament we have the continue they said that in the hotel yes other than yours that's the way they usually go to the bar as well you wouldn't report on the new hotel meeting over a fraction of a number of members of parliament as anything official you know you need the decorum he needs a quorum he needs a procedure it's the due process that's why. we have we are not than findings that new. prime minister read that we're that transitional government yes
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that all government has a design by they are continuing to act you know capacity but we are looking and it probably can take days or it can take weeks but this is how democracy looks like this is where the process of the political process where where there are various sites there's a very active civil society there is this use in the streets who are demanding are absolutely new faces there as this you know various political parties and we. sure are you that we will find. a compromise as a way of out of it and we will in ensure. that there is peace and order there and then when we have this conditions we will have the new parliamentary elections because the sensitivity here is that it could be a color revolution we've seen what's happening in the we saw haven't enjoyed general and time ago people very conscious this could be
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a color revolutions are nato is backing one side or the other i mean do you trust a sudden jump or all of it was he was indeed convicted of violent hostage taking his sentence meant that he wouldn't be released from prison till 2027 and then in the media it's like he's become prime minister you know run out of years of us all we talked about the that we need to take are all this new a. grain of salt to put it mildly no there are this legitimate forces that are very much. you know what's the current you know because the former there are statesman and we have the active civil society and we have the support of the whole international community is that we've seen statements from all our friends who's we the people there who's in all her prime minister who visit of elected yes is not on the in for you until you should do you need to do we
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need to just because there is no new prime minister yet but it's definitely not a color evolution you know where and when you know as i suppose the western wall mendelson scene is there i'd stand and trying to change the foreign affairs. politics of our country and all we are where we are in central asia and we have a very good relations with all our important factor in our neighbors in our we we neighbor china in all ways i was the digic partner we are allies in the. collective security of 3 d. or we are members of the eurasian economic union this is nothing of your silly. relations with syria with belarus with venezuela you know and suddenly changing tack and suddenly none of them they were the european union is and is not then why give us your your and this is probably going to be you know my job to say this is
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that has nothing to do is for in politics. international involvement this is currently internal affairs of our country and we will emerge from it we will emerge and remain on the same course we've been russia's have mesas safe russia because this is a safe we are counting on the russian government to act as their stability is in force they 'd have to acknowledge they are all in all it's very important we as a most important trading partner and politically we have a huge they asked for in russia so as a position we'll be very important then i make no mistake this is this has nothing to do with any international politics this is purely a domestic quarrel which is going to be results on because the u.s. used. to fight in afghanistan although donald trump is says he's reducing the numbers are still good relations with the united states as well well you know or
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the united states and the you know european union the organization for security cooperation in europe actually i can point you to the fact that the u.s. embassy was the 1st to congratulate the people of kurdistan and the government is that's why anyone became suspicious successful elections so that's why this one again and as it was there said that this has nothing to do with any extortion of forces this is purely. a matter of politics and i would like to point you to the fact that we are one country that has been sent to fight our elections as free and fair as the previous. several cycles we have state of the art electronic system biometric data so the usual falsification when ballots starting or you know this multiple voting or just outright fraud sufficient of the protocols they do not work they do not work and that's why the all new way to somehow
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influence the outcome of elections is their vote buying and unfortunately we cannot do much about it but we never expected that one force called be using you know several dozen millions of dollars and just purchase out that vote of the people that's the problematic technically. international observers did not find anything wrong with the elections itself we spoke to the foreign secretary tony grab here because there were rumors that the united kingdom not only wants a trade deal with kyrgyzstan it also wants to somehow have influence in central asia by using kyrgyzstan. no i would not support. the states a group that it but we are in touch is the foreign office and is our colleagues in her majesty's government but i do not think that the united kingdom will be having this idea that they can act as
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a mediator because the important role of the of soko in the security council. of having this important ties to this place in the national community but. once again what like to repeat that this is purely there are no affairs and we would like to respectfully request all sides to have passions it is us and wait out for the people of pakistan will solve this issues i mean maybe do conspiracy theorists but on paper you know you took a loan 120900000 from the i.m.f. in mud and then here we see unrest there's new connection between kyrgyzstan's reliance on money from the washington consensus that you got in march and all these events there's nothing and there's not in the people on the street there is nothing of that sort there's nothing to do is that you know we have some external debt but again find it ridiculous to believe that somehow congress than as
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a caucus people is not able to be paisa you know we have it under control our economy is also experiencing as any economy around the world to be experiencing huge unobvious of that that pressure this has some in director all the economic situation as a set the the people who are older workers as i call him the virus the there. pandemic situation it has to be said kyrgyzstan is not like an emerging economy that just does whatever the big multinational mining companies do you don't think that it is the exercising of sovereignty that is creating suspicion. in major countries that they have to have to exert an influence over this key country in central asia their world as it is today you know all those things happening around the world in particularly in a few key countries it's they have enough arms on their plate not to worry about
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what's going on in my country and this was completely unexpected just the international community and we do not see now we do not see any international involvement in the events unfolding in that so what to the next will be the election we also make it fair that yes really we'll see and we will be passion we will seek the national compromise we will put every by the around the table and already of course negotiations are taking place we are talking to each other everyone is interested in peace and order and no one is will be taking some more lopsided unilateral decisions we will be seeking national compromise we will install the new interim government which will be led by a charismatic political leader who enjoys the support of the people of going to stand and will be credible on the international stage and then it will it will
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probably take time a few months to install peace and order to ensure that there are conditions for democratic elections sometime this winter and as a thank you thank you for having me that's it for the show will be back on monday to hear from one of president trump's congregation pastor dental scored who claims all job is the most pro black president ever to occupy the white house until then join the only revenue czerwinski of sound cloud twitter and facebook.
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as the u.s. economy was booming doing numbers of people when they did. you can work 40 hours in a week and still not have enough to get housing everybody believes america still has the lead up to the reality of the not financially equality and the lack of affordable housing for a living minimum wage give many people new choice. that's been a problem with the city knows turn limits and told me stay away almost. half the food if there is no answer because yes that requires resource. vulnerable or abandoned on the streets to become invisible cops.
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join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guests of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then.
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a fragile ceasefire takes effect between azerbaijan and. mania in the disputed nagorno-karabakh region but within hours both sides accuse each other of violating the truce. explosions in the air raid siren shatter hopes of pacing karabakh our correspondents in the heart of the conflict zone reporting on the devastation and how locals view the standoff. site i can see it has been razed to the ground but it has been battered by so many bombs of so many calibers sizes and types. also ahead the 2nd u.s. presidential debate is cancelled off the donald trump refuses to take part remotely while the president holds his 1st public events into contracting.

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