well i rounding out the 2nd week of violence that several 100. that on both sides and that is to add to almost 80000 dad accolade and over almost 38 years of this conflict and while international mediators keep calling for an immediate cease fire i don't think anyone is listening who will want to can possibly stop this war right now i believe fortunately in the last few days we've seen so promising signs i think there's a procedure in presidents being set up to get back to a cease fire and very hard by that good i would say you know who the additions here oakley income that maybe syria is the number of casualties that bit's is much higher than is publicly as at this point as are but it's only authorities know announced as we've heard terrorist orgies certainly and citing this isn't true this

there are probably hundreds and that is well so death to your maid will be approaching $1000.00 and that while our there is a flurry of diplomatic activity here surrounding this conflict i don't think we have seen any actual evidence from the ground that they have still is out about it and. that suits are present it's a sad sets in new issue peace but when parties to a conflict scene there is about to be a truce there's up to do that it's a case of on the ground to get a little bit of weigh in to improve your bet on 2 positions in your defensive positions it would be be seeing some of the literally tied to the fact they were going to be meetings is that even with have already been. achieved and if they had some progress in. the exit the precision though the beating it must go in with the

maybe not so breaks through and moves to true well let's keep our fingers crossed but base conflict doesn't happen. in many reasons for optimism let's put it that way because it's been going on on and off for almost 30 years and i know that back in the late 99 just land russia france and the united states got together to form the so-called men's group we sure were able share. their idea was that you weren't going to solve it fairly quickly what was fueling that often is that that's happened and why people are still dying in that war and that kind of off 2020 years later no be good to explain that. there's been a difficult it's going. to pose to you to be heard to resolve seeing that in the middle east we've seen it in a user it's those simply they present good chances but what we saw in the ninety's

and what's been missing lately and i hope can be a stamp words is a willingness to develop a relationship between the 2 subjects. no 2 ninety's. as a basically president header and leader you know. the president being here the rhetoric could syrian actually started developing the ruperts all relates it didn't mean the leaks were that good they were able to gain sort of tristen one another in to explore real compromise. salukis it happened earlier with senator lugar through as a volunteer presumably suit but that ambassador i think that's actually air one of the problems because in one of your articles you mention that almost every it imaginable solution has been brought to the table that we. yearly you know whether

because one of the sides i mean it is that sat on preserving the status quo ad and the other side as every john finds it unacceptable what it be fair to say that this conflict perhaps has exhausted all the potential of being sold politically. and i do not believe. in him i would say the group. with the rest should be united states interests is good sears is actually were better than many people give it credit for the dialogue inserted between the diplomats has been amazingly so even when relations between some of the parties a because typically russian the united states has been strained in other areas the cooperation here is the way to. make it is clear to anybody connected with the middle you has got to be mechanism for what's what keeping negotiations going sure

that flat and ink the conflict how not to convince because i mean that i think there is an almost and universal recognition that it was a savage on who started this war and there with a lot of. preparatory means i mean they put a lot of effort into the preparation that she had to actually blame them for right initiating this military action after all those years of essentially fruitless negotiations. it is it is a meteor and it will always respect relented so. many quit making even a secret out of that i mean they have not their own right and that territories recognize this there is other international law. the their position didn't end in the played and it's taking place right now and they well that started in july there is kurdish 17 people died then and i think the tensions

there are different after that so it's been waiting crude incident along the line of conflict to reinitiate still he said after what i think is possible and it we're doing becomes. we're doesn't really fit in here is oprah he's a fault for hardening their positions in the leadership or media interest now as you're based on her follow through not turn it into their own people about the need trouper months there's still lucian western political solution to this problem will never be achieved by being in posed but a pressure of the united states or anyone who wants it in those arenas or budget really is the members so there has to be a direct dialogue between them that seriously looks at compromise when it had that

they've approached beast you know that having to be exposed to what if turkish news in my household and it's not always clear whether it is. or accurately that's leading the charge i wonder how does terry keyes have all a chance to get contrarian and easy you know get everything out. 20 years ago or is it something qualitatively different. it's it's just sitting in. the underlying problem has changed it was qualitatively different today it is a dramatic difference is the level of our ministers as well both circuits in the position of turkey. you raised when i had worked on this is 200-2001 they were approaching a solution turkey was a sleepy supporter of bringing about a peaceful resolution. it's there's still under president here is changed

dramatically and in the last few weeks to see a willingness to almost encourage for the repression and i don't think that is the way. it's the result it if you believe it and i really resident france have both said based on evidence of this new jersey facilitated with adversity or news into their version from syria little arubans russia has played a role there it is also problematic but i do think the potential to be to try to work a kind of bruce is there it was about 3 days ago statements by the or even prime minister neagle person you know the those are really you know encouraged by ready to debate serious mutual compromises it was a ruse and we'll see how messy you mentioned the russian role in apt selling

weapons to both me and abidjan and add i want to stress that those at official stance that if it weren't russia selling weapons perhaps it would have been the united states and china doing that so you know weapon sales within legal bounds but i'm more interested about the role of turkey here because at when you were working on this issue 5000 years ago. all the official mediators by russia france the united states they have some leverage some influence on the szell warring parties that anyone have a will have very sure if jack at this point of time and specifically that president erred on. their potential for leverage is there i would not see that exercised its stated simply it's clear we the united states has predator put pressure interviewed a number of areas where. american express and. the reserve released.

you know you we've raised questions about our incentives to turn those surprisingly that is he said so are legal in the international community teacher to russia so true. just weapon or so if we were going to jump you. probably leopards to be sure but we'd see willie do you get it you risk your situation in syria libya you know we're in a situation with her book as well that is very problematic ambassador you have to take a very short break right now but the ability back in just a few moments you. are.

wrong because. american citizens need to declassify. after an attack. passed it back and i think. i would vote for a republican over trump i would vote for anyone who you cannot you want and has half a brain defeat. defeated. yeah my 2nd wife. she can handle. she and i divorce because our trouble is elected president and i floated for him and she crashed and. we are now in the most important election. in our history he's missed in the months to go before the next presidential election how is the atmosphere in the u.s. now. one of the highest priority problems how will they vote should they do next

now that just some of the questions we put in there. welcome back to wells apartment and that's their carry capital for my porch carol they always see him in scrubs and that's a day just to pick up where we left off before the break we were talking about their role of tree care and i don't know if you were grieved at this but i think president err the law has been quite successful in playing on that russian they've got animosity over the last couple of years

a deal that is developing relationship with both of them using that as a bargaining chip and i wonder if. at least to some extent the conflict in that part of the part about he's acting on office average and he almost didn't add to it as every chance you charge to have is actually a result of both russia and nato feeding his ambition and sort of triangulating that you challenge him also that you know that the impression i get is this is driven by his duties or depleted greater role is the number or regional areas. here it's true. international resister but a city it's not playing will. it be united so i'm not sure he gave his signature a good reputation by the excellence. of his reputation in the international community after imprisoning like hundreds of thousands of he citizens and the

international community being old a mum. i don't wouldn't say it's been well not to say there has been. you know i think the international community is going to be. straight much harder than it s m i think so we will see that this is that there will be discussions in the u.s. congress about they said they've already started to back them give me contacts. on capitol hill i think there's that inspiration being made what steps the congress to take action here i think we've seen the same religion him prime minister do so is that people are responding to you mentioned some of the matters that the u.s. congress and canada than the others could take and i almost wish they were as far well as you present them to be i mean what can possibly all those actors do to

impress was mr aired on it is difficult in dealing with. regimes to get them to act it would be hager you know better to do that does it serve to widely i think that's a problem here may be to the united states persimmon trains working together uncover about who will help actually send a message to the derby of how unified the outside rule that is against these kinds of activities which threaten the global stability of internet so that every 6 out. sounding like a conspiracy theorist at the end they said opinion here in russia that france and the united states would actually like to take care of the quote unquote airline problem by using russia and old. news about that all those savvy for it's about turkey supposedly or allegedly reportedly sending. that rebels

or 'd ass fight isis as you know i separate. could be interpreted as the united states sort of trying to. you know send russia secret that look you know here's a problem of terrorism in your backyard why don't you get involved and by doing that and in my both russia and turkey what do you think about this 8 year old would put new credence in spears it all everything that it was seen in the good and i'm retired so i'm not in washington now but every signal that i know you have seen it is one who are concerned about this development this new stance of turkey is an issue of how do you best tackle that and i think you would find who are they are you know this is a route together then this center to it says survey this. is

we're talking about her but. this is a significant conflict all of her who people who are less obliques here but for really an answer because they have the russian federation the united states of america in the republic in france is their mediators this is no small feat these are 3 veto wielding permanent members of the security council there's a lot of international incident to prove this conflict because we recognize the dangers of kurds that we would take steps that could exacerbate it put at risk can i ask you something about maybe count it in to get about the russian position because. you once said that russia console 'd this problem on its all and i think there is a full realisation of that in moscow moreover there is effectively get almost exactly a ration at having to deal with it and always being under appreciated mistrusted at

hughes of so. being out the side it cetera as much as russia is unnerved by turkey's presence in the south caucasus don't you think that if it also be partially believe that this problem is no longer. it's exclusively biggest rebel due respect in france and the united states made it part of the men's group but they had not really that their vital interest and not connected to solving this problem as much as russia's interests are you know that is true it is that part of . this conflicts mediation i think you had been in the earlier years to ensure that relations between the united states and russia. and the kurds were more comfortable and looking at compromise knowing that both

russia and the u.s. were part of this so i was so that heard. sadly the truth has changed and it is a tentative agreement. also while you're on on all sides because of the but its intensity and i truly hope president everyone will look at this difference it's ceasefire to be a severance on the basis of the discussions the foreign minister lavrov who be leading i meant that i think that will do who are literate to give him the rest of the united states and critics to head turkey back oakland that is in hope as move forward we're with you again brister was basement room but also scary movie 2 are getting back to. you mentioned from mr levy was talks about his at i mean and counterpart platform that's monday and well i believe it's both i

think do the result of the discussion that took place in geneva or. thursday is lead to agreement that the o's are president for minister leaders well let me ask you specifically about their meeting in position because it's their meeting and the . insistence on preserving the status quo that ultimately led to the current flare up while has this problem hasn't been told because i mean yes metaphorically stuck to their guns do you think it makes sense strategic sense for them to come to the negotiating table now and perhaps changed that position because that is one of the main i mean without supporting it i mean the hands that were there but i have a janet has ever done if we have to recognize that that at this point of time the disputed territory still being recognised as the territory for example genesis there are many in school do not laugh at the status for it to be changed is it

region or earlier inroads is this and there already been a signal from the everybody in prime minister. kirk in are be are prepared to look again is the head in the hands not recent as within the past it's serious. i think to the communications on both certs to their people their everything they were good at reason they were who has never been real and sort. their position of answer but it's not to say well of course they are being used to luke bourbon should be comfortable being under as their bones are with the word. imagine that if you're living in sterling here today. shows and missiles are raining down on the city it's to be a meeting in the middle you know say we've seen the 1st group and i mean you know

they're prepared to go back to that kind of dialogue in the. middle homily or i haven't been involved in discussions. while he's been president but his father was prepared to look at concessions and i think if they does rather is revered as a wrestler and i think he could realize he could look at it says should salute really meant was or be any of that with you because you bring about peace and he could users from leader it could have. related to support that you know well he may be a strong leader but i think he's here to share a very tactical act it's here or mr and both of them there have a need to save face and it's a difficult to get accurate information about the situation on the ground that i think we can see that there is evidence the way out but surely is gaining ground is

it really in the interest of or is average to stop right now i mean that sort of military strategy it with that suggests that they would push as much as they can. again as my surgeries possible and then hopefully come to the negotiating table while now that position is strong i think very much in 2016 for better or worse the 4 day war showed that azerbaijan good military seriously rigging some territory but very small amount of territory to bury us i think what we will see when a cease fire is a step was to move those settles that will happen as everybody who gains the small amount which are 3 at a very significant human cost the death and destruction on all sides. my hope is he'll realize to this can never be a solution to get all the things he has some new the level of destruction

a little it will lose was a way it would be super nervous in the fact is it simply didn't out certain forces would become involved in this conflict and president putin very clearly signaled russia will it some point under its defense at a loser or maybe an institute spec does not repair but but there's a lot of it it's present year this leads it to happen in the series do you know also senator this is the fading consider they would need to be looking at is it really is or really is also a member president. even president there who shouldn't or see him you do not want to come too close to that line now our ambassador i appreciate your dedication to this bill think that one of the add dangerous if. extensive

negotiations and trying to raise the conflict is that it goes on indefinitely and as you pointed out in one of your articles at frozen conflict is that a conflict of waiting to flat i mean it's not the soft calls like that i think. one of the sides to this dispute has. misusing it go shooting at a process that takes on advantage do you think it makes sense at this plant time to try to freeze this conflict once again for the sake of saving lives for the sake of waiting for a bad at opportune moment do you think. this should be solved right now or that there is still at evaluating the spawning dissolution and i think the nature of conflict that will be postponed a bit there's still sightings weeks of it's almost impossible to bring parties to be haitian able mediately. to give

fighting to sit down and have reasonable discussion students about the counterman is that what he does you can start setting up some framework for women how you will do that but it's a get the result you seek that won't be immediate so i think what will be immediate and i hope we'll see this as surely is the internet as a response to the humanitarian who this conflict is just in the last weeks and i think that me and goal. greater involvement by the united nations is a specialized agencies to deal with both the displaced people from the fighting are . going to have contact been separate so i think we may see greater involvement there in straighter attention even if it

were for the good offices framework of the secretary general to hang late international concern about this situation and international support to result well ask to have to leave it there i really appreciate your time with us today and i apologize the time periods for the technical issues that he seemed to be having if you had the all during their quoting i still hope that you have 5 this discussion valuable no i think it think it's been good for your viewers it illuminates the challenges that are here in the hope that perhaps in a few weeks we could even talk. i don't know that there is a ceasefire with it except to try to. discuss it probably the best racing like and unredeemable optimist but that i hope you're here right anyway thank you very much for being with us today and thank you

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day or thinks. we dare to ask. in the weekly from our 2 international reports of shelling and civilian casualties in the go to count a bug that's about john and armine accusing each other of violating the truce so for a fragile cease fire takes effect in the disputed region. correspondence in the heart of a conflict reporting on the devastation and how locals a few the standoff where. the city of step on occurs is a sorry sight i can't see it has been raised to the ground but it has been battered by many bombs of so many calibers sizes and types. you know the headlines the international chemical weapons watchdog claims traces similar to group poison were in samples belonging to alexian of a.