this is going to those are but it's only authorities know announced as repurchase orgy's this early citing this isn't to screw this law there are probably hundreds and that is well so do through your mood will be recruits in thousands and that while our there is a flurry of diplomatic activity here surrounding this conflict i don't think we have seen any actual evidence from the ground that they have still leaves out about it and. that suits are present it's a set set to. do it is sure we're peace but when purdy's to a conflict suit there is about to be a truce there's up to do that it's a good case of on the ground to get a little bit of weigh in to improve your bet on 2 positions and your defensive positions it would be be seen some of the literally tied to the fact there were going to be meetings is it evens have already been. achieved and if it had some

progress in the exit the precision the beating it must go on with the 1000000 or so breaks through and moves to true well let's keep our fingers crossed that based conflict doesn't happen. in many reasons for often as a lab let's put it that way because it's been going on on and off for almost 30 years and i know that back in the late 99 just land russia france and the united states got together to form the so-called minsk group we sure were able share. their view was that you weren't going to solve it fairly quickly what was fueling that often is that that's happened and why people are still dying in that war and that kind of off 2020 years later though be good to explain that. there's been a difficult it's good there. do pose to be hard to resolve seeing

that in the middle east we've seen that in a user it's those simply they present chances but what we saw in the ninety's and what's been missing lately and i hope can be a severance is a willingness to develop a relationship between the 2 subjects. to ninety's. as a basically president head or a leader you know rush the president being here and the rhetoric could syrian actually started developing the ruperts all relates it didn't mean they liked one of the good they were able to gain so interested in one another is to explore real compromises salukis that happened earlier with senator earlier through as a volunteer preserve. suit but that ambassador i think that's actually air one of the problem because in one of your articles you mention that almost every it imaginable

solution has been brought to the table that we're really you know weighted because one of the sides i mean it is that sat on preserving the status quo ad and the other side * has every john finds it unacceptable what it be fair to say that this conflict perhaps has exhausted all the potential of being sold politically. so you do not believe. him i would say the group. with the rest should be united states interests is good cheers is actually were better than many people give it credit for the dialogue inserted between the diplomats has been amazingly so even when relations between some of the parties a because typically russia and the united states have been strained in other areas the cooperation here is the way to. make it is clear to anybody that you're going

to do what you've got been mechanism for what's what keeping negotiations going sure that flat and ink the conflict how not to convince because i mean that i think there is an almost an a a universal recognition that it was a savage on who started this war and there with a lot of. preparatory means i mean they put a lot of effort into the preparation that she had to actually blame them for right initiating this military action after all those years of essentially fruitless negotiations. it is it is a reader in here and it will always respond related so but what i'm betting that making it even a secret out of that i mean they have not their own right and that territories recognize this there is other international law no ricky. the their position didn't end in the played and it's taking place right now and

they well that started in july there is kurdish 17 people died then and i think the tensions there are different after that so it's been waiting crude incident along the line of conflict to reinitiate still he said after what i'd say it is possible and it we're doing becomes. we're doesn't really fit in here is is open he's a fault for hardening their positions in the leadership or media and it knows you're based on her follow through not turn it into their own people about the need for cooper months as to lucian a lasting political solution to this problem would never be achieved by being in posed but a pressure of the united states or anyone who wants it in those arenas or better really see the members so there has to be

a direct dialogue between them that seriously looks at compromise when it had that they've approached peace you know that having to be exposed to what if a turkish news in my household and it's not always clear whether it is. or accurately that's leading the charge i wonder how does terry keyes have all a chance that contrary to easy to get anything out. 20 years ago or is it something qualitatively different. it's it's just sitting in. the underlying problem has changed it was qualitatively different today it is a dramatic difference is the level of armaments does this but both sides in the position of turkey. you raised when i had worked on this is 200-2001 they were approaching a solution turkey was a sleepy supporter of bringing about

a peaceful resolution. it's there's still under president here is changed dramatically and in the last few weeks to see a willingness to almost encourage for the repression and i don't think that is the way. it's the result if you believe it and i really resident france have both said they've seen evidence of this new jersey facilitated with a diversity or news into their version from syria little arubans russia has played a role there it is also problematic but i do think the potential to be to try to work a kind of bruce is there it was about 3 days ago statements by your meet him prime minister nicolas sooner than the bowser media incurred by ready to debate serious mutual compromises it was

a ruse and we'll see how messy you mentioned the russian role in apt selling weapons to both me and abidjan and add want to stress that those at official sales that if it weren't russia selling weapons perhaps it would have been the united states and china doing that so you know weapon sales within legal bounds but i'm more interested about the role of turkey here because at when you were working on this issue 5000 years ago. all the official mediators by russia france the united states they had some leverage some influence on the szell warring parties that anyone have any leverage with jack at this point of time and specifically that president aired on. live potential for leverage is there i did not see that it exercised its stated simply it's clear we the united states is predator put pressure interviewed a number of areas where. american express and. the reserve released.

you we've raised questions about our incentives to treat those surprisingly that is he said so are legal in the international community teacher to russia so for. just . so if we were to judge you. probably liberals to be sure but we've seen willie do you get it you risk your situation in syria libya you noted the situation with her book as well there's very little ambassador you have to take a very short break right now but we'll be back in just a few moments. so

what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy confrontation let it be an arms race is often spanning dramatic development the only case i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical of time time to sit down and talk. the world is driven by. the day or thinks. we dare to ask.

welcome back to worlds apart. they had asked their caring cabinet for my poem care how they always seem instructed and that's a day just to pick up where we left off before the break we were talking about their role of tricky i don't know if you with agree with this but i think present era there are has been quite successful in playing on the russian the animosity over the last couple of years. developing relationship with both and using that as a bargaining chip and i wonder if. at least to some extent the conflict in that part of the kind of back east and being on officer bridge and he almost didn't add to it as ever to answer your charge i have is actually

a result of both russia and nato feeding his ambition and sort of triangulating that new challenge in moscow it's not the impression i get is this is drew but his duties are depleted brooder role is the number or regional areas into it and here it's true peace international resistor but a suit it's not plating will. be internet so i'm not sure he gains signature good reputation by the excellence. of his reputation in the international community after imprisoning like hundreds of thousands of he citizens and international community being old a mum. i don't wouldn't say it's been well known to their peers and. you know i think the international community is going to be the. district much harder than it s m i thankfully we will see that this is that there will be

discussions in the us congress about they said they've already started to back them give me contacts i have on capitol hill i think there's that inspiration being made what steps the congress to take action here i think we've seen the same religion him prime minister do so is that people are responding to you mentioned some of the matters that the u.s. congress and canada and that this could take and i almost wish they were as far well as you present them to be i mean what can possibly all those actors do to impress was mr aired on it is difficult in dealing with the authoritarian regimes to get them to act it it would be hagar you know better to do that does it serve to widely i think that's a problem here may be to the united states persimmon frames working

together uncover about who will help actually send a message to your be of how unified the outside rule that is against these kinds of activities which threaten the global stability of internet so that every 6 out. sounding like a conspiracy theorist at the end they said opinion here in russia that france and the united states would actually like to take care of the quote unquote airline problem by using russia and old. news about that all those savvy imports about turkey supposedly or allegedly reportedly sending. that rebels or 'd ask fight isis as you know united states sort of trying to. you know send russia secret that look you know here's a problem of terrorism in your backyard why don't you get involved and by doing

that and in my both russia and turkey what do you think about this a year it would put new credence they'd have been spears it all everything that it was seen in the good and i'm retired so no i didn't want to she does now but every signal that know you have seen it is one who are concerned about this development just newsstand's of be an issue of how do you best central that you know i think you would find who are they are you know this is a route together then to say or to it says or basis you know when we were talking about her but. this is a significant conflict all of her who people who are less than blakes here good for refinance or president to have the russian federation the united states of america in the republic in france is there mediators this is no small feat these are 3 veto

wielding permanent members of the spirit example it's a lot of international it didn't prove this conflict because we recognize the dangers of birds that we would take steps that could exacerbate that if put at risk can i ask you something about maybe count it in to get about the russian position because. you once said that russia console this problem on its own and i think there is a full realisation of that in moscow moreover there is effectively again almost exactly a ration at having to deal with it and always being under appreciated mistrusted at hughes of serving out the side it sat or at as much as russia is unnerved by turkey's presence in the south caucasus don't you think that it can also be partially believe that this problem is no longer. it's exclusively biggest rebel due respect in france and the united states made it part of the men's group

but they had not really that vital interest and not connected to solving this problem as much as russia's interests are you know that is true and it that part of her engagement is consulate's mediation i think that been in the earlier years just to to ensure that relations between the united states and russia . and the parties were comfortable and looking at compromise knowing that both russia and the u.s. were part of this so i was so that her to help. said leave the church has changed and it is a tentative agreement. also while you're on on all sides because of the but its intensity it and i truly hope president one will look at this different it's ceasefire to be a severance on the basis of the discussions the foreign minister lavrov who be

leading i meant that i think that will give more liberal to me to give him the rest of the united states and critics to head to be back oakland that is in hope as move forward we're with you again brister was basement room but also scary movie 2 are getting back to. you mentioned from mr levy was talks about his i mean and counterpart platform that's monday and well i believe it's both i think do result of the discussion that took place in geneva or. thursday it does lead to agreement that the i was there president for minister leaders well let me ask you specifically by their being in position because it's their meeting and. insistence on preserving the status quo that ultimately led to the current flare up of why is

this problem hasn't been told because i mean yes metaphorically stuck to their guns do you think it makes sense strategic sense for them to come to the negotiating table now and perhaps changed that position because that is one of the main i mean without supporting it i mean the hands that were there but i have a definite has ever done if you only have to recognise that that at this point of time the disputed territory still being recognised as the territory for example genesis there are many in school do not laugh at the state of florida to be changed is it rejigger earlier in ridges this and there are already been a signal from the everybody in prime minister. kirk in are be are prepared to look again is the head in the pants not recent as within the past it's serious. i think to the communications on both certs to their people their

everything they were good at reason they were has never been real and so. the position of answer but it's not to say well of course they are being used to loop her but should be comfortable being under as her bones are with the word. imagine that if you're living in a still home and here today. shows and missiles were raining down on the city it's to be a meeting in the middle you know say we've seen the 1st group and i mean you know they're prepared to go back to that kind of dialogue in the. middle homily or i haven't been involved in discussions. while he's been president but his father was prepared to look at concessions and i think if they does rather is revered as a wrestler and i think he could realize he could look it. really meant was

or be any of that with you because you bring about peace and he could users strong leader he could have says pilate's of support that you know well he may be a strong leader but i think he's here to share a very tactical act it's here or mr and both of them there have a need to save face and it's a difficult to get accurate information about the situation on the ground that i think we can see this average as a way out but surely is gaining ground is it really in the interest of or is abidjan to stall right now i mean that sort of military strategy it with that suggests that they would push as much as they can. again as my surgeries possible and then hopefully come to the negotiating table while now that position is strong i think very much in 2016 crew better or worse the 4 day

war showed that azerbaijan good military seriously regaining some territory but very small amount of territory to bury us i think what we will see when a cease fire is a step was to move those settles that will happen as everybody will have daily the small amount which are very at a very significant human cost the death and destruction on all sides. my hope is he'll realize to this can never be a solution to get all the things he has some do the level of destruction a little it will lose was a way it would be super nervous in the fact is it simply didn't out certain forces would become involved in this conflict and i'm president who very clearly signaled that russia will it somewhat under its defense loser or me i don't

institute spec does not repair but but there is a lot of it it's present your this leads that cemented in the serious do you know also senator this is the fading consider they would need to be looking at is it really is or really is also a member president of the league and even the president there who shouldn't or see him you do not want to come too close to that line now our ambassador i appreciate your dedication to this building but one of the add dangerous of. extensive negotiations and trying to raise the conflict is that it goes on indefinitely and as you pointed out in one of your articles at frozen conflict is that a conflict of waiting to flat i mean it's not the soft calls like that i think. one of the sides to this dispute has. misusing it go shooting at

a process that takes on advantage do you think it makes sense at this plant time to try to freeze this conflict once again for the sake of saving lives for the sake of waiting for a bad at opportune moment do you think. this should be solved right now or are there is still at evaluating the spawning dissolution and i think the nature of conflict that will be postponed a bit there's still sightings weeks of it's almost impossible to bring parties to be patient able immediately. to give fighting to sit down and have reasonable discussion students about the counterman is that what he does you can start setting up some framework for women how you will do that but it's a get the result you seek that won't be immediate so i think what will be immediate

and i hope we'll see this as surely is the internet as a response to the humanitarian who is conflict is just in the last few weeks and i think that me and goal. greater involvement by the united nations is a specialized agencies to deal with both the displaced people from the fading are. going to have contact has been separate so i think we may see greater involvement there it is greater attention even if it were for the good offices framework of the secretary general to hang late international concern about this situation and international support to result well ask to have to leave it there i really appreciate your time with us today and i apologize anti-virus for the technical issues that he seems to be having if you had the all during their quoting

i still hope that you have find this discussion valuable no i think it think it's been good for your viewers it illuminates the challenges that are here in the hope that perhaps in a few weeks we could be even tougher. i don't know there is a. will lose the next 6 b. to try to bag. it's probably best racing like and unredeemable optimist but that i hope you're here right anyway thank you very much for being with us today and thank you for watching this year again next week other worlds apart.

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