no announced as we were test orgies you certainly say to this or to screw this there are probably hundreds of. years well so do through your movie will be recruits in 2001 i will add there is a flurry of diplomatic activity here surrounding this conflict i don't think we have seen any actual evidence from the ground that they have still leaves out about it and. that suits are present it's a set set to. do it is sure peace but when purdy's to a conflict suit there's about to be a truce there's up to do that it's a good case of on the ground to get a little bit of weigh in to improve your bet on 2 positions and your defensive positions it would be to be seen some of the literally tied to the fact they were going to be meetings is it even would have already been. achieved if it had some

progress in the exit the precision with the beating it must go on with the 1000000 or so breaks through and moves to true well let's keep our fingers crossed that basic conflict doesn't happen. in many reasons for often is allowed to put it that way because it's been going on on and off for almost 30 years and i know that back in the late 99 just land russia france and the united states got together to form the so-called men's group we sure were able share. their view was that you weren't going to solve it fairly quickly what was fueling that often is not that time and why people are still dying in that war and that kind of off 20 to 20 years later though be good to explain that. there's been a difficult it's going. to be for juries. seeing that

in the middle east lucy united a user it's those simply they present chances but what we saw in the ninety's and what's been missing lately and i hope can be a severance is a willingness to develop a relationship between the you so it's. too late to ninety's. as a basically president head or a leader. or rush the president who are mean you're the robert couture and actually started developing the rupert so relates it didn't mean they liked one of the good they were able to gain so interested in one another you know to explore real compromises salukis it happened earlier with senator earlier through as a volunteer presumably suit but that ambassador i think that's actually air one of the problem because in one of your articles you mentioned that almost every

imaginable solution has been brought to the table that we're really you know weighted because one of the sides i mean it is that sat on preserving the status quo ad and the other side * is every john finds it unacceptable what it be fair to say that this conflict perhaps has exhausted all the potential of being sold politically. so you do not believe. in him i would say the group. with the rest should be united states interests is good cheers is actually were better than many people give it credit for the dialogue inserted between the diplomats has been amazingly so even when relations between some of the parties are because typically russia and united states have been strained in other areas the cooperation here is the way to. make it is clear to anybody

and that you're going to do what you have been mechanism for what is what keeping negotiations going sure that flap and ink the conflict how not so convinced because i mean that i think there is an almost and universal recognition that it was a savage on who started this war and there with a lot of. preparatory means i mean they put a lot of effort into the preparation that she had to actually blame them for right initiating this military action after all those years of essentially fruitless negotiations. it is it is a meteor and it will always respond related sites but. i'm betting that making it even a secret out of that i mean they have not their own right and that territories recognized as there is on the international law no. the their position didn't end in the played and it's taking place right now and may well

those started in july there is missed 17 people died then and i think the tensions there are different after that so it's been waiting for it incident along the line of conflict to reinitiate still he said after what i think is possible and it we're doing becomes. we're doesn't really fit in here is oprah he's a fault for hardening their positions in the leadership or media ended now as you're based on her follow through not turn it into their own people about the need for trooper months there's still lucian western political solution to this problem would never be achieved by being in posed but a pressure of the united states or anyone who reads it in those i read it as a bunch of you know a c.v. members so there has to be a direct dialogue between them that seriously looks at compromise with

a head that they've approached beast you know that i happen to be exposed to what if a turkish news in my household and it's not always clear whether it is. or accurately that's leading the charge i wonder how does terry keyes have all a chance to get contraceptives and easy. everything out. 20 years ago or is it something qualitatively different. it's it says city in. the underlying problem has changed it was qualitatively different today it is a dramatic difference is the level of armaments does this but both sides in the position of turkey. you raised when i had worked on this is 200-2001 they were approaching a solution. it was a complete supporter of bringing about

a peaceful resolution. it's there's still under president here is changed dramatically and in the last few weeks to see a willingness to almost encourage for the repression and i don't think that is the way. it's the result you get if you believe and i really resident prince they both said they didn't get evidence of this new jersey facility to move the diversity or use it to their version from syria little arubans russia has played a role there it is also problematic but i do think the potential to be to try to work a kind of bruce is there it was about 3 days ago statements by the or even prime minister nicolas and you know the those are really you know encouraged by ready to debate serious neutral compromises it was a ruse and we'll see how messy you mentioned the russian role in apt selling

weapons to both me and i have a john and add want to stress that those are official sales and if it weren't for russia selling weapons perhaps it would have been the united states and china doing that so it was you know weapon sales within legal bounds but i'm. more interested about the role of turkey here because at when you were working on this issue frank years ago. all the official mediators by russia france the united states they had some leverage some influence on the szell warring parties that anyone have a leverage with jack at this point of time and specifically that president are they on. their potential for leverage is there i did not see that exercise that pressure interviewed a number of areas where. americans he said. are legal in the international community teacher to russia to purchase weapon or so if we were going to

jump should be a serious probably leverage to be placed under but we've seen interviews willingness to get into riskier situations. syria libya. situation with her book is well there's very little in it ambassador you have to take a very short break right now but we will be back in just a few moments you. are. doing some a c. and we're going to update on the cease fire negotiations in moscow on the issue of the border and is a war on coal but also home for populism on the left and right. the

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welcome back to worlds apart that have passed their caring capital for my porch chair hope they always see him instead of ambassador just to pick up where we left off before the break we were talking about their role of tricare and i don't know if you with agree with this but i think president barack obama has been quite successful in playing on the russian they've got animosity over the last

couple of years a deal that is developing relationship with both and using that as a bargaining chip and i wonder if. at least to some extent the conflict in that part of the part about he's acting on office arbitron he almost didn't add to it as every chance you charge to have is actually a result of both russia and most if not the impression i get is this is drew. his duties are depleted brooder role is the number or regional areas. here it's true peace. shouldn't exist or better a city it's not slating will. be internet so i'm not sure he gave his signature a good reputation by the excellence. of his reputation in the international community after imprisoning like hundreds of thousands of he citizens and

international community being old a mum. i don't wouldn't say it's been well known to be there has been. you know i think the international community is going to be. straight much harder than it s m i thankfully we will see that. this is picked there will be discussions in the u.s. congress about they said they've already started but i'm giving context. and capitol hill a think there's that inspiration being made what steps the congress to take action here i think we've seen the same thing really j.t. in prime minister to do so is that people are responding to you mentioned some of the matters that the u.s. congress and canada and others could take and i almost wish they were as far well as you present them to be i mean what can possibly all those actors do to

impress was mr aired on it is difficult in dealing with. regimes to get them to act it would be hager you know better. does it serve to widely i think that's a problem here may be to the united states persimmon trains working together uncover about who will help actually send a message to your field how unified the outside rule that is against these kinds of activities which threaten the global stability of internet so that every 6 out. sounding like a conspiracy theorist at the end they said opinion here in russia that france and the united states would actually like to take care of the quote unquote airline problem by using russia and old. news about that all those savvy imports about turkey supposedly or allegedly reportedly sending. that rebels

or i have 5 x. as you know i separate. could be interpreted as the united states sort of trying to. you know send russia secret that look you know here's a problem of terrorism in your backyard why don't you get involved and by doing that and in my both russia and turkey what do you think about this a year would that do create. in spears. everything night it was seen in the good and i'm retired so i'm not in washington now but every signal that i know you have seen it is one who are concerned about this development just newsstand's of turkey is an issue of how do you best tackle that and i think you would find who are they are you know this is a route together then this center to it says survey this. is

we're talking about her but. this is a significant confluence all of her who people who are of the lesson but it's here that for really an answer both to have the russian federation the united states of america in the republic in france is there mediators this is no small feat these are 3 veto wielding permanent members of the spirit example there's a lot of international incident to prove this conflict because we recognize the dangers of birds that we would take steps that could exacerbate that if put at risk and can i ask you something about maybe count it in to get about the russian position because. you once said that russia console 'd this problem on its own and i think there is a full realisation of that in moscow moreover there is effectively get almost exactly a ration at having to deal with it and always being underappreciated mistrusted up

used of so. being out the side it cetera as much as russia is unnerved by turkey's presence in the south caucasus don't you think that it could also be partially believe that this problem is no longer. it's exclusively biggest rebel due respect in france and the united states made it part of the minsk row bedad not really that their vital interest and not connected to solving this problem as much as russia's interests are you know that is true it is that part of her engagement is consulates mediation i think that been in the earlier years just to ensure that relations between the united states and russia. and their attorneys were comfortable and looking to compromise knowing that both russia and the u.s. were part of this so i was so there heard no. said leave the truth has changed you

know this is a tentative agreement. also while you're on on all sides because of the but its intensity and i truly hope president everyone will look at this different it's ceasefire to be a severance when on the basis of the discussions the foreign minister lavrov who be leading i meant that i think that will do if war will improve to give him the rest of the united states and critics to head turkey back oakland is in hope has moved forward we're with you again brister was basement room but also scary movie 2 are getting back to. you mentioned from mr let us talk about his at i mean and counterpart platform that's monday and well i believe it's both i think do the

result of the discussion that took place in geneva or. thursday is led to agreement that the o's are president for minister leaders well let me ask you specifically by their being in position because it's their meeting and. insistence on preserving the status quo that ultimately led to the current flare up while there's this call that hasn't been told because i mean yes metaphorically stuck to their guns do you think it makes sense strategic sense for them to come to the negotiating table now and perhaps change that position because that is one of the main i mean without supporting it i mean the hands that were there as epidemic has ever done if we have to recognize that at this point of time the disputed territory still being recognised as the territory for example genesis there are many in school do not overlap the status for it to be changed is it rejigger earlier

inroads is this and there already been this it will prove they are being prime minister. kirk in are be are prepared to look again is the head in the hands not recent past but in the past it's serious. i think to the communications on both circuits to their people their everything they were good at reason they were has never been real and. the position of answer but it's not to say well of course they are being used to luke urban should be comfortable being under as their bones are with the word. imagine that if you're living in a still home and here today. shows and missiles are raining down on the city it's to be a meeting in the middle you know say we've seen the 1st and. they're prepared

to go back to that kind of dialogue in the. middle homily or i haven't been involved in discussions. while he's been president but his father was prepared to look at concessions and i think if they does rather is revered as a wrestler and i think he could realize he could look it good so should the league really meant wizard media there with his you know bring about peace and he could use a strong leader it could have a relation to support that you know well he may be a strong leader but i think he's here to share a very tactical act it's here or mr. and both of them there have a need to save face and it's a difficult to get accurate information about the situation on the ground that i think we can see there is evidence slowly out but surely is gaining ground is it really in the interest of or is abidjan just all right now i mean that sort of

military strategy it with that suggests that they will push as much as they can. again as my surgeries possible and then hopefully come to the negotiating table while now that position is strong i think myriad minutes in 2016 per bitter or the 4 day war showed that as a razor and good military seriously reading some territory but very small amount of territory to be very cost i think what we will see when a cease fire is a step was to move those settles that will happen as a regime will have gained the small amount which are very at a very significant human cost the death and destruction on all sides. my hope is he'll realize to this can never be a solution to get all the things he has some new the level of destruction

a little it will lose was a way it would be super nervous in the fact is it simply wouldn't out certain forces would become involved in this conflict and i'm president who very clearly signaled that russia will it somewhat under its defense loser or maybe it's the spec does not repair but but there is a lot of it it's present year this leads it to happen in the series do you know also senator this is the fighting considering they would need to be looking at is it really is or really is also a member president of the league and even the president shouldn't or see him you do not want to come too close to that line now our ambassador i appreciate your dedication to this bill think that one of the add dangerous of. extensive

negotiations and trying to raise the conflict is that it goes on indefinitely and as you pointed out in one of your articles that frozen conflict is a conflict in waiting to flat i mean it's not the soft article like that i think. one of the sides to this dispute has. misusing it go shooting at process that takes on advantage do you think it makes sense at this plant time to try to freeze this conflict once again for the sake of saving lives for the sake of waiting for a bad at opportune moment do you think. this should be solved right now or that there is still at evaluating the spawning dissolution and i think the nature of conflict there will be postponed a bit and there's still sightings weeks of it's almost impossible to bring parties to be haitian able mediately. to give

fighting to sit down and have reasonable discussion students about the counterman is that what he does you can start setting up some framework for women how you will do that but it's a get the result you seek that won't be immediate so i think what will be immediate and i hope we'll see this as surely is the internet as a response to the humanitarian this conflict is just in the last few weeks and i think that me and goal. greater involvement by the united nations is special as agencies to deal with both the displaced people from the fighting are. going to have contact in. their tension even if it were for the good offices framework of the secretary general to hang late international concern about

this situation and international support a result well ask have to leave it there i really appreciate your time with us today and i apologize the time periods for the technical issues that he seemed to be having if you had the all during their quoting i still hope that you have 5 this discussion valuable no i think it think it's been good for your viewers it illuminates the challenges that are here in the hope that perhaps in a few weeks we could even talk again about how now that there is a ceasefire will. that excludes the 2 trades. probably the best racing like and unredeemable optimist but i hope you're here right anyway thank you very much for being with us today i'm thank you for watching this here again next week other worlds apart.

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