to discuss this and more i'm joined by my guest jordan some yelling and budapest he's an author and a you tuber at the gaggle and here in moscow we have dmitri bobbitt she is a political analyst and an editor at interest me internet media project right gentlemen crosswalk rules and effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i was appreciate it ok i was going to put it past the georgia we have a cease fire we've heard that there are some violations but at this point as we're speaking right now it is still holding and i've been looking at a lot of the reporting this is only a tiny baby step i mean this issue is not going to be resolved that hasn't been resolved for 30 years and i'll be really honest with you i don't see a resolution coming into play what is most important and what these negotiations in moscow with the leadership of armenia and azerbaijan is this at least the 1st step

of stop the killing where do we stand george go ahead. i agree that that's a very important 1st step violations of cease fire in the media hours after. the announce of the cease fire that's to be expected on this in any conflict the real question is whether the potus have an interest in a single cease fire and i think that applies very much to the by john and to it's a chief sponsor turkey because for us there by john a ceasefire and the status quo ante isn't really in its interests. turkey has made clear that it will not accept anything short of a complete armenian withdrawal from the areas that it's been occupying since 94 so i did just think that the the ceasefire may not last i mean there's just simply . this this too many vested interests against it and therefore. this this conflict

is likely to escalate you name is there is a risk of losing face in azerbaijan because this offensive against the court of the head about going gone anywhere i mean if you will of villages been engaged of you know just been lost in there are largely been abandoned for 30 years so i mean who's who where is the risk greatest right now i would think it would be in. well you are right because basically i think when. i was there by john decides to respond really violently to what was a rather usual you know small possible bombardment from their armenian side so when i was there but underside of glasgow i think mr ali hoped that in a few days at wharton a few weeks armenians would just seed 2 or 3 districts out of 7.

that are part of the so-called new car about security is all these are areas not populated by armenians not populated by said by generous this is basically a wasteland which is used as a buffer zone between the 2 sites so i think i do you hope in a few days maybe in a few weeks at least part of the ground will be gained would be there to it but now we see that the whole situation is getting worse and wars and armenians are responding by hitting a city is deep inside as they are by john so i think now if it. gets a little ground ok that will be trumpeted s a victory in buckle but certainly it would not justify the costs the costs were enormous. you know george i was looking at some of the communication coming out of the foreign ministry and the kremlin on this affair and it was very obvious to me

that it was a very obvious omission and it was i took it as a no there was no mention that the service president president there that one would be part of this to go she ating process and be the reason why it's a glaring omission because they the turkish foreign ministry pointed out the omission and they were quite angry about it yes yes there's no question turkey is making trouble and turkey has no interest in ceasing to make trouble. it wants to make trouble for russia because both me and azerbaijan are good terms with russia. you know of a save the military arrangement with amin is more expensive with azerbaijan nonetheless america russia has good relations with both any conflict between on the ng and as a by the un is a headache for russia and i think this is really the danger of far as russia is concerned the along with belarus with ukraine with georgia there are power was

that have a vested interest in causing headaches for russia because this is russia's sphere of influence and if there's a conflict and russia is unable to resolve this conflict then it's a serious problem for them and i think that for the russians is that they really want to settle this soon as possible i'm not a socialist is that's really on the cards you know and human kind of speculating here right now look back that everyone wasn't involved visually involved in all of this is this it seems to me that how they're based on and kind of showing its hand right now because. there's been a number of years since we've seen a major escalation here the other by john sides. advanced its weapon rain and snow. jerry and my friends in the bay but that would be a grove of the dice and they would get a decisive victory that could change the balance of forces that is now come into

play and observation can look to moscow to pull the nuts out of the buyer as it were ok and i think that's a possibility here since everyone was obviously very publicly excluded what do you think now i think that what george just said you can read it in just about all western news purpose right now i mean the most conspicuous was the article in the new york times here which is become and a really bad propaganda rag right now so that as article in the new york times was headlined fewer basically surround sounded by instability pugin along the sort of instability is now surrounded by the article by un parkway and lost and the author writes that a concurrent crisis in belarus central asia and the caucasus region have blind signs of the kremlin leaving did and even in scrambling to shore up russian interests. well i'm trying to get back to the nonsense but give your opinion here

go around it's nonsense because never in the last 30 years give barcoo or her appeal to moscow for help and if you look at the statement for or press the idea of which game i think yesterday or 2 days ago it was so was it you have towards russia i barely could recognize him he said that russia has our complete trust you know he sent his foreign minister to moscow that's going to be the white mind my interpretation of this is that the regime is not really. into everyone's hands absolutely the opposite i think what you're talking only really expensive big words now they. say to get out and now it's been months not. actually and not only in this area by john i mean the corpulent of the west is just

so so blue and by their ideology they always suspect the kremlin of head in the wast of intentions the most you could call intentions and what was going on ok there was this there was this turmoil in belarus never in the last 30 years did belarus look after russia so much as it does now you know since we came to power it was pretty independent and now he's begun russia to help in kyrgyzstan well i mean it's a real disaster one of the reasons was the coffee because 46 percent of our kinda stuff economy is service industry so quickly just killed it there was this basically a rebellion in bishkek and now both sides in the concert in the situation of complete honesty are looking up to more school being one of us i know many members of the kurdish community in america and i've been told this is just my own personal experience that many of them. i mean that many people in kurdistan actually would

like we turn to the russian better aeration i will this is so. it is true but it is true also part many of the countries of the middle of it union so 1st public opinion is important and you know these 3 crisis belarus karo bar can just on the people actually the more boiling russia or more to the people of the view russia as the stabilizing force 100 of thousands of them working in moscow actually is actually not only not only curious yes but you don't notice them because they are the same as us but there are millions of the russians working in russia and there are many there are millions of other various and other mediums working on doing business in russia so basically the public opinion has been our senate is ours right now but it didn't matter so was because the leads basically decided during the last at least 20 years now the elites and your guest on who can have

more school they needs in armenia and azerbaijan who can have the law school local passion and language has changed just until recently he was a western man you know he praised. modern albright which was your take on flight you know me let me let me go to georgia or meet him and i had lunch yesterday and we were talking about if there are merely is a to be or not to be issue and i think to be the current president he can talk all he wants about the best friendship in time but when it comes to an action adventure greg there is one place they look to and that way over a century they look ahead yes exactly because all that you'll get from the west is of course encouragement and egging you on into a conflict with the sort of less you and him fight but ultimately the united states is not going to go to war when you're behind germany is not going to go to war and you'll be out of so you're actually. leading country to disaster and just going

back to the surface went that. was making that article in the new york times which sneered about these leaders who sent their birthday greetings or telephoned president putin for the birthday greetings well the fact that so many of the leaders of the former soviet republics were the ones who were actually telephoned him to wish him where for his birthday that indicates something it means russia has good relations with one was all of the former republics of the u.s.s.r. and that's that's quite an achievement there and goes against the grain of the western media that kind of everybody hates russia and that these countries are ripe for color revolutions no they are very good relations with russia and you know we could make the case that ukraine everything's and 2014 who which country is ukraine's most important trading partner russia be able to this day not the e.u.

ok so the e.u. the exports their ideology and grants but not much more demon last 20 seconds before we go to the right well not only is your train route is russia steal the biggest fate and part of ukraine but also ukraine was not the poorest country of europe when you stay on course most of all now 18 is the poor because of the u.n. estimates were because of bad no good and that's what exactly right is that remember get it when you go to a rate you're nothing that's not right with your discussion and some real news day without.

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survival guide liquid assets now does it you can convert it into gas quite easily. to keep in mind l. as a to mean to a place it was because of the board. joining me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to us of the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see of and. welcome across the uk where all things are considered i'm about to remind you we're discussing some real news. let's go back to george in budapest you know i've had many many conversations over the last few months here and you. sort of formulating an idea that i think really

needs exploration and i think we'll only touch on it in this part of the of crossed out here but you said to me not too long ago that there war on coal bit which i can live with that i think there's a war on everything now but i think i do lose the meaning of it but ok the war on coal bit but it's also it's also a war on civil liberties it's a war on populism on the left and the right and i've done a number of programs on cross-talk talking about what is this new normal well is the new normal an attack on progressivism left and right george yes i think so. that the $26.00 seniors got kind of years 0 while the global elite we had the brics that referendum which against all expectations went against the e.u. and then of course we had don't trump election victory which again went against all predictions this game

a stark. shock to the global elite who felt that they could control the western publics with these they could have elections they could win every election if those an election that went against them they could just have you run exactly a referendum will have a rerun this was a total shock. at 1st they tried to make some kind of a spin a conspiracy story that oh it was russia and everything that sailed up this is the low evidence for that so they went covert came along they seized on this and imposed restrictions that had never in the past been imposed when you know they've been viral pandemic sorry there's nothing new about pandemics i mean there's all this humanity itself there's been bad cases of the flu not even without even talk about the 118 influenza i mean it was the asian flu in the 96 is the hong kong flu before that there's nothing new about this what is new was extraordinary restrictions i mean shutting down the economy closing down businesses mandating

people when mohsen treat one another as if their disease scariest and you have to then wonder whether is this really pos of an onslaught by governments on the public's so that they become frightened to one another and see the all powerful decision making to elite yes yes you know better than we do you are the scientists you are the people with knowledge and brain power police that allow us what we must do you know diminish interesting things and when you look at these some of these restrictions and somebody sent me on facebook yesterday. social distancing martial all of that so are william and people who are making sure you don't get close to other people here people have no way gypsie i guess what i find really remarkable if you look at the case of orthodox jews in new york i mean they are rebelling against the state authorities city and state authorities because they're not being allowed to practice their faith which is one of the most important. tenets of being

an american having citizenship in america the founders took religion very carefully meaning there would be no hindrance of religious observance here but you know there's there's hindrance about going to school there's an entrance. obviously going to work here but if you want to protest a certain kind of protest one that is ideologically in favor that's ok the hub's ocracy of it is just unbelievable but it's traditional institutions that are being crushed by this and i would say crushing any kind of dissent might mean your go ahead well you know just a very important fact about this called the disaster this is the suspicion against religious organizations and it's not only inside the united states it's global you know the french newspapers blamed the orthodox on asterisk in kiev which remained

loyal to the joint orthodox church of russia and ukraine that they blamed for the spread of corn even if. the same story about of the jews that you just told us well why is it happening because the more than west an ideology is a religion in itself a very destructive one but it hasn't since the so-called dissidents the so-called n.g.o.s you know missionaries which are untouchable and which is concerned russia you can send them to kyrgyzstan anywhere right. but the problem with this new religion 1st industriousness itself and a separate region and 2nd to isis in standoff bringing people together as traditional religions do this was actually my society you know those are told not to listen to their mothers and fathers and not to marry you know remain independent as they say right fair. i'm not encouraged to be creative this

so-called independence is everywhere so this new religion kind of c. is of course s. a very important and a very comfortable means to promote more to my station i mean just recently how many people were against mausam swearing traditional wales in public what was a huge problem especially in france and this was about 0.000 percent of the population who wore these traditional veils know their require turn over 100 percent of the population to hide their face and suddenly it's not a problem for the police it's not a problem for anyone right so people are betting that anything not against. just is very quickly people are not given anything science made equal he is indeed a very dangerous game he is there is a lot of evidence about that people he didn't engage the level who are checked you

know how come people are allowed to ride on on subway trains and then feel the trams but they're not allowed to have any meeting which is not online you know or my meetings are more formal you know this table and you i go gee it likes online meetings because they're all record everything you say that may be used against you so it's also a limitation of freedom. george is the you know every every major religion has scripture written that the scripture of this new religion the demon just described is called the new normal which normally is what we tell you is normal i mean you know orthodox jews can congregate alcoholics anonymous can congregate and that is a very in. that's a health risk to people who want to do this don't recognise they have been health issues and they need to be able to commune with other people they're isolated right now that's when you're isolated and you have that kind of problem we don't know

what. here when it's black white matter it's a different age so it's it's the powers that be decide what the new normal is because like you said break that interim you can't trust the people they're the last people you can trust go ahead. that's exactly right and that lets you know just remind us of how the all for it is responded in 2011 to the the the the protest against the bailout of the wall street you know who you know we are the 99 percent no tolerance levels 0 tolerance for that. compare that with how sympathetic the authorities to these black lives massive protests over you know when come a ladder is says yes these protests are going to go on and they should go on and i'm going to be with them in a whole way so it's very interesting you know why is it that all forest is sanction one protests but you know use all the police powers against another protest well

because it is one that is frightening. the status quo one that is and it's clear the black life matter and this is the sort of nonsense about the semi graces and which no one knows what he means they pose no threat that's why goldman sachs going to 4 to write checks you know 5xw1cw whatever you want is a check or get these alaskans support them no problem at all so what you're really saying is how far is this have seized on cobe it to crack down on those. congregations that they don't like as the right to point that out yes religion that's out however of black guys now you know you can't get enough of that and i think that's really what you know this new to normal will be one which the old guard is going to be absolutely exterminating what you can do and what you're going to cause this goes into the believe we can survive another time about the internet censorship which is also by the of the covert censorship you call. post anything

that might be misleading information included that's of course a preliminary to suckle of information. just declared by twitter or facebook email me and twitter available got a nobel peace prize for chemistry or physics or mathematics i mean you know hard stuff ok i know who's who's to say facebook and twitter know the truth but they claim and you know what they owe him course there is. that martin there's a new normal demon. gone mentioned very rightly that there are some protests which are photo rated by the authorities on sound which are pretty condemned using this korean threat as the backup you know it's very easy to predict which ones will be condemned the ones that do not correspond to the norms and the believe so this you really just call it i'll call him brilliant nice process will be condemned why are

yellow vest condemned in france because the european union is supposed to be the head of the paradise you know the european union is the place where this religion is almost official you know why our black wives may have to support them because they're against drum and trump was elected in 2016 against the waste of this new religion its candidate was hillary clinton he was supposed to be the punching bag for that woman boxer and then suddenly as the punching bag defeated the boxer it was a sacred edge so in the same way you know. you're in this parallel with religions this religion has its dentals the devils are the leaders of the countries that have not submitted to this new religion these devils leaders a game of ice and we remember how it was done with khadafi how it was done with the ocean it's now they do the same with the. important and with all. in congress right

recently just recently they started doing a book crawl because these for nature is universal it's not about the united states dominate and all the conference it's about this religion dominating everyone else so let me let me get this straight george so you can get an abortion ok. you can go to a liquor store but you can't pray to god ok and you can't go to an a.a. meeting ok i guess this is some poor utopia person but for us talking and people watching is this is the dystopian it's dystopian and it is very ideologically driven and it doesn't open itself to interrogation 10 seconds. no it that's exactly right the pot prosy is so blatant that now you had the u.s. courts for the 1st time stepping in there was a federal. court in pennsylvania that cracked down on the arbitrary

government restrictions and now you have the other day at d.c. quarter also breaking down. just simply not so well on the job in here and run out of time and they're going to try to take over the courts doing ok i want to think like my guest could have has yet and here and must want to rethink our viewers for watching us here r.p.c. next time remember. israel media a reflection of reality. in a world transformed. what will make you feel safe. isolation or community. are you going the right way or are you being

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