budapest he's an author and a you tuber at the gaggle and here in moscow we have dmitri bobbitt she is a political analyst and an editor and host me internet media project right gentlemen crossed out rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i was appreciate it ok i was going to budapest that george we have we heard that there are some violations but at this point as we're speaking right now it is still holding and i've been looking at a lot of the reporting this is only a tiny baby step i mean this issue is not going to be resolved it hasn't been resolved for 30 years and i'll be really honest with you i don't see a resolution coming into play what is most important and what these negotiations in moscow with the leadership of armenia and azerbaijan is this at least the 1st step and stop the killing where do we stand george go ahead i agree that that's a very important step violations of cease fire in the immediate hours after.

the announcement of a cease fire that's to be expected on this in any conflict the real question is whether the pot is have an interest in. ceasefire and i think that applies very much to say by john and to it's a chief sponsor turkey because for azerbaijan a cease fire and status quo ante isn't really in its interest so. it has made clear that it will not accept anything short of a complete armenian withdrawal from the areas that it's been occupying since 94 so i did to think that the ceasefire may not last i mean there's just simply. there's too many vested interests against it and therefore. this conflict is likely to escalate you name is there in the risk of losing base in azerbaijan because this offensive against the part of the herd about guns and gun anywhere i mean if you look at villages many again if you diligent been lost the middle or largely been

abandoned for 30 years so i mean who's who where is the risk greatest right now i don't think it would be in. well you are right because basically i think when. i survived decided to respond really violently to what was a rather usual you know small possible bombardment from the armenian side so when i was there but underside of glasgow i think mr reddy hoped that in a few days at warst in a few weeks armenians would just seed 2 or 3 districts out of 7. that are part of the so-called new car about security as all these are areas not populated by armenians not populated by said by jenna's this is basically a wasteland which is used as a buffer zone between the 2 sites so i think i do you hope in a few days maybe in

a few weeks at least part of the ground will be gained that would be there to it but now we see that the whole situation is getting more sudden or send armenians are responding by hitting a city is deep inside as they are by john so i think now if you. get a little ground ok that will be trumpeted as a victory in baku but certainly it would not justify the costs the costs were enormous you know george i was looking at some of the communication coming out of the foreign ministry in the kremlin this bear and it was very obvious that it was a very obvious omission and it was i think it is a snub there was no mention the be serious brain that president they're going to be part of this we go shooting process and the reason why it's

a glaring omission because the the turkish foreign ministry pointed out the omission in the white angry about. yes there's no question turkey is making. trouble and turkey has no interest in ceasing to make trouble. it wants to make trouble for russia because both mean and azerbaijan are good terms with russia . of a save the military arrangement with amin is more expensive with azerbaijan nonetheless america russia has good relations with both any conflict between on the ng and as a by the un is a headache for russia and i think this is really the danger of far as russia is comes on that along with belarus with ukraine with georgia there are powers that have a vested interest in causing headaches for russia because this is russia's sphere of influence and if there's

a conflict and russia is unable to resolve this conflict then it's a serious problem for them and i think that for the russians is that they really want to settle this soon as possible i'm not a socialist is that's really on the cards you know and human kind of speculating here right now look back that. everyone wasn't involved visually involved in all of this is this it seems to me that how they're based on and kind of showing its hand right now because. it's been a number of years since we've seen a major escalation here the other by john sidings. vance that is weaponry in its military and my sense is the basis of this would be a grow up and die and then get a decisive victory that could change the in the balance of forces that has not come into play and observation can look to moscow to who is another part of the buyer as it were ok and i think that's a possibility here since everyone was obviously very publicly excluded when you

think. well i think there were gods are fair you can read it in just about all western news purpose right now i mean the most conspicuous was the article in the new york times there which is become and a really bad propaganda rag right now so there's article in the new york times was headlined if you're basically surround sounded by instability pugin along the sort of instability is now surrounded by the article by an parkway an office and the author writes that a concurrent crisis in belarus central asia and the caucasus region have blindsided the kremlin leaving did believe in it scrambling to shore up russian interests. well i'm trying to keep nonsense but give your opinion here go around it's nonsense because never in the last 60 years give barcoo or her

appeal to moscow for help and if you look at the state been fraught pres the idea of which game i think yesterday or 2 days ago it was so was it you have towards russia i barely could recognize him he said that russia has our complete trust you know he sent his foreign minister to moscow that's going to be the white mind my interpretation of this is that the regime is not really. into everyone's hand absolutely the opposite i think what you're talking only really really expensive big words now they. say to get out now it's been months not. exactly and not only in this area by john i mean the corpulent of the west is just saw so blue and by their ideology they always suspect the kremlin of the wast of intentions the most you could call intentions and what was going on ok there was this there was this turmoil in belarus never in the last 30 years did

belarus look up to russia so much as it does now you know since the question who came to power it was pretty independent now he's begun russia to help in kyrgyzstan well i mean it's a real disaster one of the reasons was the coffee because 46 percent or kinda stuff economy is service industry so could it just feel that there was this basically a rebellion in bishkek and now both sides in the can stay in the situation of complete honesty i'll get up to more school being one of us i know many members of the kurdish community in america and i've been told this is just my personal experience there are many of them. i mean that many people in congress then actually might return to the russian better aeration i will be so so and it is true but it is true also apart many of the countries of the middle of it union so 1st

public opinion is important and you know these 3 crisis belarus carra bar can just on the people actually does not blame russia or more to the people of the view russia as a stabilizing force hundreds of thousands of them work in moscow how exactly exactly not only are not only curious yes but you don't notice them because they are the same as us but there are millions of the russians working in russia and there are many there are millions of other various and other mediums working on doing business in russia so basically the public opinion has been our senate is always right now but it didn't matter so was because the leads basically decided during the last at least 20 years now the elites and your guest on who can have more school they needs in armenia and azerbaijan who can help the law school local passion on the language has changed just until recently he was a west a band you know he praised. modern albright which just eat your chicken

flight you know me let me let me go to georgia or meet him and i had lunch yesterday and we were talking about if there are merely is a to be or not to be issue and i think to be the current president he can talk all he wants about best friendship in time but when it comes to an accidental greg there is one place they look to and that way over a century they look ahead yes exactly because all that you'll get from the west is of course encouragement and egging you on into a conflict with the sort of let's you and him fight but ultimately the united states is not going to go to war on your behalf germany is not going to go to war and you'll be out of so you're actually. leading country to disaster and just going back to the sort of weight that. was making that article in the new york times which sneered about these leaders who sent their birthday greetings or telephoned

president putin for the birthday greetings well the fact that so many of the leaders of the former soviet republics were the ones who were actually telephoned him to wish him well for his birthday that indicates something it means russia has good relations with one was all of the former republics of the u.s.s.r. and that's that's quite an achievement and goes against the grain of the western media that kind of everybody hates russia and that these countries are right for color revolutions no. good relations with russia and that you know we could make the case that ukraine out there everything's and 2040 who which country is ukraine's most important trading partner russia will do this base not the e.u. ok so the e.u. the exports their ideology and plants but not much more demon last 20 seconds before we go to the right well not only use your train route is russia steal the biggest failure of ukraine but also ukraine was not the poorest country of europe

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welcome back across town where all things are considered i'm about to remind you we're discussing some real news. let's go back to george in budapest you know i've had many many conversations over the last few months here and you. sort of formulating an idea that i think really needs exploration and i think we'll only touch on it in this part of the crosstalk here but you said to me not too long ago that there's the war on coal but i can live with that i think there's a war on everything now but i think i do lose the. meaning a bit but ok more on tobin but it's also it's also a war on civil liberties it's a war on populism on the left and the right and i've done a number of programs on cross-talk talking about what is this new normal is the new

normal an attack of progressive isn't left and right george yes i think so. that the 2016 his guys kind of he is 0 for the global elite he. had the bricks that referendum which against all expectations went against the e.u. and then of course we had don't trump election victory which again went against all predictions this game is such a shock to the global elite who felt that they could control the western publics with these they could have elections they could win every election if those an election went against them they could just have you run exactly a referendum will have a rerun this was a total shock. at 1st they tried to make some kind of a spin a conspiracy story that oh it was russia and everything that sails up this is the no evidence for that so they went cove it came alone they seized on this and

imposed restrictions that had never in the press been imposed when you know there's been viral pandemics i mean there's nothing new about pandemics i mean there's all this humanity itself there's been so bad cases of the flu not even without even talk about the 1918 influenza i mean there was the agent flu in the 1960 is the hong kong flu before that there's nothing new about this what is new was extraordinary restrictions i mean shutting down the economy closing down businesses mandating people women mohsen to treat one another as if the disease scariest and you have to then wonder whether is this really pos of an onslaught by governments on the public's so that they become frightened to one another and see. all powerful decision making to elites yes yes you know better than we do you are the scientists you are the people with knowledge and brain power please tell us what we must do yet you know to me the interesting thing is that when you look at these

some of these restrictions and somebody sent me on facebook yesterday. social distancing martial all of that so her orwellian image people are making sure you don't get close to other people here people have no way gypsie i get that but i find really remarkable if you look at the case of orthodox jews in new york they are rebelling against the state authorities city and state authorities because they're not being allowed to practice their faith which is one of the most important tenets of being an american having citizenship in america the founders took religion very carefully meaning there would be no hindrance of religious observance here but you know there's there's hindrance about going to school there's an entrance. obviously going to work here but if you want to protest a certain kind of protest one that is ideologically in favor that's ok the hypothesis is just unbelievable but it's traditional institutions that are being

crushed by this and i would say crushing any kind of dissent might mean you're go ahead you well you know just a very important fact about this called the disaster this is the suspicion against procedures organizations and it's not only inside the united states it's global you know the french newspapers blamed the orthodox on the asterisk in kiev which remained loyal to the joint orthodox church of russia and ukraine that they then blamed the for the spread of corn even if. the same story about of the jews that you just told us well why is it happening because of the. more than western ideology is a religion in itself a very destructive one but it has its scenes the so-called dissidents the so-called enjoy those you know missionaries which are untouchable and which you can send to

russia or you can send them to kyrgyzstan anywhere right. but the problem with this new religion 1st industriousness itself and a separate region and 2nd to why is a society in standoff bringing people together as traditional religions do this want to my society you know goals are told not to listen to their mothers and fathers and not to marry you know remain independent 6 or 8 families are not encouraged to be creative these so-called independence is everywhere so this new religion kind of sea is of course a very important and a very comfortable means to promote more to my station i mean just recently how many people were against most i'm swearing traditional whales in public always was if huge problem especially in france and this was about

0.000 percent of the population who wore these traditional veils know their require turn over 100 percent of the population to hide their faces and suddenly it's not a problem for the police it's not a problem for a new one right so people are going to be dating not against. just because very quickly people are not given anything science made equal he is indeed a very dangerous disease there is a lot of evidence about that people have been engaged the local who are checked you know how come people are allowed to ride on on on subway trains and in field are trams but they're not allowed to have a meeting which is not online you know or my meetings are more formal you know this terrible new i'd. all i meetings because they're all record everything you say that may be used against you so it's also an imitation of you know i mean george just as you know every every major religion has its scripture but you know that the

scripture of this new religion the demon just is called the new normal and what's normal is what we tell you is normal i mean you know the orthodox jews can congregate alcoholics anonymous can't and they congregate and that is a very and it's a that's a health risk to people who want to do this that recognize they have been helped as you and they need to be able to commune with other people they're isolated right now that's when you're isolated and you have that kind of problem we all know what happens here when it's black lives matter it's a different issue so it's the powers that be decide what the new normal is because like you said break that intro you can't trust the people they're the last people you can trust go ahead towards earth that's exactly right and that lets you know just remind us of how the all forat is respond that in 2011 to the. protest against the bailout of wall street you know who you know we

are the 99 percent no tolerance level syrup tolerance for that compare that with how sympathetic the or far it is not to these black lives a map of protest oh yeah you know when cammalleri says yes these protests are going to go on and they should go on and i'm going to be with them all the way so it's very interesting you know why is it that all forit is action one protests but you know use all the police 5002 other protests well obviously that is one that is frightening. the status quo and one that isn't it's clear that black lives matter and the sort of a sense of our systemic racism which no one knows what he means they pose no threat that's why goldman sachs going to 4 to write checks you know 5xw1cw whatever you want here. there is a check or get these others can support them no problem at all so what you're really seeing is how far this has seized on cobe it to crack down on those.

congregations that they don't like a demon rightly pointed out religion that's out however of black guys now you know you can't get enough of that and i think that's really why you know this new to normal will be one which will courage it is going to be absolutely exterminating what you can do and what you can do and cause this goes into the because of weather another time about the internet censorship which is also by of the covert censorship you can post anything that might be misleading information cloven that's of course a preliminary to suck out of information. just to clear but it has twitter or facebook email me and twitter baseball got a nobel peace prize for chemistry or physics or mathematics i mean you know hard stuff ok who's who's to say facebook and twitter know the truth but they claim and you know what they'll i'm bored there. that's part of the new normal demon.

gone mention finding a rightly that there are some protests which are totally dead by the sound which are printed condemned using this cotton trap as the backup you know well it's very easy to predict which ones will be condemned the ones that do not correspond to the norms and the being so this you really just call it outcome in brazil nice process will be condemned why are yellow vests condemned in france because the european union is supposed to be the safety paradise you know the european union is the place where this religion is almost official you know why our black wives may have to support them because they're against drum and trump was in. left that in 2016 against the waitress or this new religion it's good enough because he already claimed he was supposed to be the punching bag for that woman boxer and then suddenly in the bunch in bed defeated the box it was

a sacred so in the same way you know it would continue in this parallel with religions this religion has its devils the day also the leaders of the countries that have not submitted to this new religion these devils leaders i deem a heist and we remember how it was done with qadhafi how it was don we are the new abortionist now they do the same without a touching skin point on with or been in congress right recently just recently they started doing a problem because this religion is universal it's not about the united states dominate in other countries it's about this religion dominating everyone else so let me let me get this straight george so you can get an abortion ok. you can go to a liquor store but you can't create a government ok and you can't go to an a.a. meeting ok i guess this is some poor of utopia preserve but for us hardy and people

watching as this is the dystopian it's dystopian and it is very ideologically driven and it doesn't open itself to interrogation 10 seconds yes or no is that exactly right the ocracy is so blatant that now you had the u.s. courts for the 1st time stepping in there was a federal. court in pennsylvania that has cracked down on the arbitrary government restrictions and now you have the other day at the sea court also breaking down that this is just simply not well they're on the job here and run out of time and they're going to try to take over the courts doing ok i want to think might my guess would have been as yet and here and must want to rethink their viewers are watching us here r.t.c. next time remember.

it was a very nice show 1st from president putin then i could have said no thank you or i could have said thank you and i said i'll take it and now it's time to introduce my it's not special close to mr donald trump thank you susan very much for the. name whatever you want to name i mean i don't know how when i come that the news that's dishonest tell of our combat a recorder or e. network that's totally dishonest c.n.n. is you know 100 percent negative i carry this change fast changes so fast sometimes i'll say wow that's going to be a great story be a pretty good report and others good as you. will see what happens who knows i

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one. of the. review. but there are also friends that the us are still stuck at the. thing to do something. for sure. they have about the possible alibi that's also going to put them on them that you know wouldn't happen . i'm. struggling to hold on to its ceasefire the conflict between armenia and azerbaijan sees only sparing moments of calm are reports from an area. that is the latest hot

spot for shelling attacks. inside the. town as least this part of town is under the control of the i mean the forces of. these shelling the city right now are many years accused of bombing in azerbaijani city outside the immediate conflict zone leaving 9 dead and dozens injured we hear the stance of your yvonne in an exclusive interview with the armenian president. we should not.