the demonstration complex is. the documentation has been handed over to the contractor. on time and even the head of construction is going on around the clock . crying for help hospital workers in france. it is a measure that can be beneficial but what happens i think it is not enough. the only problem. that it is the responsibility of a minister is. also ahead this hour 6 years after the mh 70.

2 strikes. the benches and one of the domes have been completely destroyed and we see for. decades old conflict between armenia. back into life. still. territory fighting. in the world this is your. from the team and myself you know hello and welcome to

the program. with europe in the grip of a rapid rise in cases health workers in front say the country hasn't learned any lessons from the initial wave they're protesting a lack of hospital resources still needed to effectively fight the pandemic it comes after president addressed the nation saying new curfew is in the number of cities in the hope of stopping the spread reporting from porous. but the protesters here are forming what is a nationwide day of protests by health workers across france and they are protesting because they say they are simply exhausted exhausted by not just the 1st wave of the 19 pandemic but then having to catch a bowler appointments during the summer i now they're facing this 2nd wave and they say that it is worse than ever they also say that the government has been treating them like fools they all few years saying that there are not enough staff in the

hospitals and they're not being paid enough so the government did pay for health workers by around $90.00 euros a month from september but that would you say that just isn't enough to compensate them for the sheer volume of work that they doing and also the danger they putting themselves in at the moment and they demanding a massive recruitment drive and a significant pay increase now own wing's the night president knowledge that health workers osce facing a dire situation this is what he had to say. our emergency rooms and our hospitals are in a more worrying situation than in march because we don't have a reserve of beds which is why we have to take measures that are more strict. now in a bid to try and ease the pressure on the hospitals and the fact that there are sometimes more than 20000 people a day testing positive for 19 with a few 100 people

a day go into hospitals present i know that there would be a curfew in the worst hit areas of frogs that is knowing regions across the country including here in paris is going to come into force on saturday and it will be activated from 9 pm every evening until 6 am in the morning those people who are not authorized to be outside or face fines 135 years for a 1st offense but that could go up to 1500 euros for repeated offenders the idea that they want to try and fight the virus to keep people in at night now i've been speaking some of the health workers here and they are not convinced that it could you is going to help them reduce the number of people who need hospital treatment because of the pandemic we also have it is a measure that can be beneficial but who see what happens i think it is not enough . the curfew's not the only problem we lack hospital bats yes cobra 1000 is

something dramatic but that's not the only thing that affects the hospitals it is the destruction of public services and the destruction of hospitals as well the curfews not going to solve the problem. since the start of the coronavirus crisis nothing was clearly done the number of hospital beds was not increased and it's not the folds of a lack of training nursing staff cannot be magic out of the hat it is the responsibility of all ministers and president. well this comes home the same day that the office is in the home of the current health minister and the current director of health as well as the former prime minister of france on the former health minister of france well all searched by the police this is part of an investigation the sticking place into whether. they handled the crisis at the beginning of the code 900 pandemic correctly or not there are allegations that they're facing that they didn't do their job they didn't protect people in france

by the fact that they didn't give out facemask in fact the advice during the 1st wave of the pandemic was only 12 facemask if you have to prove it 19 or you suspected that you had it so they're saying that there was a problem but they are now facing charges that the police even voluntary homicide and in danger in the life if any of them all found guilty of that they could face up to choose years in jail and face a fine of 300000 euros at the protests the nationwide protests taking place across france today health workers once again out on the streets demanding more staff pay in the face of the pandemic. russia has quick talks with a strain of the lungs over the dawning of malaysia earline flight m h 17 the tragedy which claimed almost 300 lives many of them children took place over eastern ukraine in july 24 to a murder trial is currently under way involving 3 russians

a ukrainian accused of involvement in art lines more details to saskia taylor in the studio earlier. it is explained in the document the last straw for russia was the government of the netherlands filing a lawsuit against russia in the european court for human rights alleging mosca had played their role in the mh 17 passenger airplane crash back in 2014 russia denies all the allegations accusing the now the lens of being interested in only putin all the blame on russia rather than fighting the truth here's the russia's foreign ministry the dutch move is considered yet another blow to russian dutch relations and the hague court's determination contrary to common sense is to continue on the wrong path of unilateral attribution of responsibility to russia for what happened in the sky above donbass such unfriendly acts by the netherlands make it senseless for us to continue to participate in the 3 way consultations

responsibility for the breakdown of the consultations those lies entirely with the hague will receive the netherlands reaction they say they deeply regret that russia to decision but by the way in the same announcement of russia's foreign ministry it is explained that the only are right now out of this consultation team if they will continue to wait in ways the netherlands service is involved in the investigation 6 years has passed what do we know about the tragedy well i remember that day july 17th 20143 months after kiev launched what it called a massive counter-terror in eastern ukraine using advie ation havea tillery tanks i was there on the ground since day one and i remember how quickly turning into a very bloody deadly operation the situation on the ground was boiling it was really dramatic the real war in fact was raging when these tragedy happened to bob eastern ukraine the investigation has been going on every since and to today we did

not know exactly what had happened these are the key points. so. forces were very quick to accuse. the position. and according to the joint investigation team the plane was brought down by book surface to air. from the rebel controlled territory but interesting is that no satellite supported. that

russia has been complaining that the netherlands do not accept russia's documents and russia's materials he has a russian president vladimir putin talking about it whatever the present doesn't say we have. presented it but no one wants to listen to us unless there is. we will not find the right response to the questions that still remain on. the tragedy of may 17th to the deaths of people we mourn these deaths and we believe that. such incidents are unacceptable as you understand when we hear today from russia's foreign ministry didn't start yesterday all this let this misunderstanding has been piling for months and years long time reservations about it does anyone else in the. questioning investigation it was malaysia airlines plane and malaysia

it is supported russia. the whole investigation that led investigation is politicized from the. we see too much politics in it the idea was not to find how would this happen when all that but you seem to be content. to be in the on rush or headed me in a new troop by the examinee and making conclusions we. whole is willing to accept but here we have these who have some political interests in the matter what is important now is that yes russia is out of 3 way consultations says it is open and ready to cooperate with another that services another country services anybody involved in the investigation and anybody interested in finding the truth. or we've been getting reaction to russia's decision to quit liability talks with a number of the day including let's hear 1st from political analyst chris bond rate

. well school feels that it judgement has already been made by the dutch and by the australians and that russia is guilty and nor their options should be considered and the new conclusive evidence and therefore russia is seeing that despite all the information and data. over by the russians it doesn't make any just a difference to the fact that that date has been basically made by the dutch this is that russia is that way and that's the source of the frustration which is led to a russia. is very sensible to pull out it should not pull them actually the dutch need to answer the question as to why they were taking this process beyond the investigation they were running with the russians at one point and the australians there was a little triumvirate that was looking into the matter and then the dutch ran away from that investigation and decided to kick it up stairs to the european court of human rights why it was far too early we can see clearly that there is

a onesided in investigation and of course it's necessary if you want to find out what happened to all evidence original presented doesn't matter by which side are taken into account i would like if the international community of the united nation or anyone who could be independent would really find a way or an instance which independently takes into account every evidence which is brought on the table. despite agreeing a ceasefire last week armenia and azerbaijan continue to trade blown in a decades old territorial dispute that suddenly flared back into life this autumn in court said on of travel to a cathedral in accord a car a bike that the scars the company. the war in the going to care about has not just about trivial territorial gains it's a long lasting with lots of bad blood between both sides and recently it has

spilled into a new turf religious this 19th century only savior cathedral was a place where soldiers and volunteers alike used to come and pray before heading into battle that made it a target but it wasn't just soldiers who would come to this church the as area military was battering the town of shushi at that time so i learned and her family decided to hide from the bombs in the cathedral script one place they thought that was safe from the shelling but they were wrong. does not it now there were 7 of us including 2 children when the shell hit the cathedral it was deafening there was destruction everywhere masonry fell from the searing that's all they can remember 2 strikes have literally eating everything in their path the altar the benches and one of the domes have been completely destroyed no place is sacred no place is safe in this war not only was this church hit twice but the 2nd strike injured 3 russian

journalists one of them is still in intensive care after spending several days in a coma he believes the hit on them was intentional the streets of shushi bear a striking resemblance to those in other towns of nagorno karabakh it's a place of desolation and despair those who can fight are already on the front lines those who had somewhere to run already have done but alone or doesn't have any choice but to stay another story. we have to fit in this small shelter with a kitchen and bathroom in the same place we are too scared to go with doors when we hear the sound of the sirens we are rushing here to hide every even in the reason we can hear the shelling people seem to be unfazed by the story state of the cathedral there's plenty of candles still burning. then the hoff destroyed walls of the church people praying for peace to return to this land sooner rather than later

because don of reporting from nagorno-karabakh artsy. of thing with that story as abrasions president said an investigation is needed and the historic church in karabakh was hit he claimed if it was done by his forces was all intentional armenia is also accused of shelling a hospital this week an attack back in the days when the hostilities 1st erupted international medical staff offered to help we heard from some of those medics right now in the conflict. with a new person. it's no easy decision for any doctor to leave behind a content life and go to war with us here of course it's not hand to hand combat but the threat is there every 2nd i just followed my heart i went through the 1st war as a student observed military medicine i gained experience and admired the doctors who saved lives i think it was imprinted on my mind having a broad experience in emergency medicine i didn't want to sit idle i wanted to

share my experience my knowledge and save any life possible goes over but the good will is going to be at 1st sight these are minor injuries small scratches in fact the x. rays show as splintered bones into her nostrils all this suggests that the weaponry has changed a lot there are a few cases of gunshot wounds here basically these are injuries from explosive mines cluster rockets and so want their high energy explosives which leaf in comparable damage where my colleagues and i have been here since day one of the war and honestly we work 247 at the hospital i can't understand the enthusiasm of some to continue this war even if people don't die there are still those seriously injured an adequate response is needed here to ensure a way to end of last year. it was a monstrous all wars are appalling it's horrifying health damage the bodies of soldiers of that brought in more and more young guys with horrible injuries some

will die some will be disabled it is very hard from a psychological point of view it's a real shock for us even though it would seem that we're used to pain. for just some background on this the current conflict has simmered for 3 decades they contested region is mostly inhabited by ethnic armenians but is legally part of azerbaijan the syrian government report of again on thursday morning that the territory had come under fire. the son of a shell heading the azerbaijan a ton of turf according to be a syrian government the time came under bombardment this week both nations the 9 violating the cease fire the fighting us forces many to flee to safety some of the side to take their chances and remain. calm they've been countless attacks this morning they shelled our soldiers here luckily they survived everything we see here

and watched the shooting 1st coming from the armenian side and then from our site it hit these areas and then it fell on the roofs of our houses there is no fear our soldiers are fighting over there why should i be scared here we should not be scared. the dutch government has approved plans to allow the euthanasia of terminally ill children aged between one and 12 the research shows there's a need for the possibility of active life terminations among doctors and parents of terminally ill children who are suffering hopelessly and i'm bearable and will die in the foreseeable future. current law in the netherlands permits you to near 0 for babies under one in your own children older than 12 consent from parents is mandatory the rule change will lift the threat of prosecution from doctors you shoes being the mother of fierce debate inside the 4 party ruling coalition for months with 2 christian parties one of them led by the health minister himself

opposed to the move well let's discuss this live now with tim d.m. the head of public policy a christian concern and also rob john kerry executive director of the world foundation of the right to die associations you're welcome both to the program tim can we kick off with you the health minister said this was a part a very small group of terminally ill children who. with no hope. is the humane answer not to allow after thorough consultations the parents to have the final say i think this is a very cruel and dangerous and this being development in the netherlands you know you legalize euthanasia and it just gets brought a broader than the reasons get extended and extended and now you have very young children who they're going to allow for i think even the suggestion to young children maybe dying is the right option is just going to be very very disturbing

for those children and just provoke anxiety i think what you have what will happen here is children will feel pressured to die and pressured to allow people to kill them what an awful thought that is and then parents as well feeling pressured to kill their children or allow their children to be killed i mean what an awful thing this is and what a terrible example to what an awful thing an inhumane thing for any society to decide to allow rob the issue of consent of the patient currently only applies to children over 12 can you really are someone younger than that to help make such a final decision. no you cannot and there's also not the id or the. proposal which is now before the government it is not a choice by. the child it is a choice like the one from 0 to one year old. when

a doctor and patient and possibly a young child think that the treatment itself bring is actually bearable and actually there was a kind of gap in our system in the narrow lens for the child between warmly it was there was a possibility not euthanasia but clone protocol at the child over 12 and we have seen and that's arnold many children who are really suffering which are just below 12 and have not the option the whole. choosing for all for helping to terminate the suffering which is actually the reason why it is organized there are just apologies to the viewers for the little bit of connection issue will try and fix that tim from the extensive research conducted most doctors seem to support the movie or the professionals here surely we should listen to. i mean what we've found consistently in surveys of doctors is that people who are actually policy of care doctors do not

support euthanasia they're the ones who see the patients dying they're the ones to care for them when they're dying they're the ones who know that pain can be alleviated. all the time pain can be alleviated they're the ones that know that actually we can offer life with comfort i see a lot of life with relationship with love with care and that she that is the better way to go here is to offer people life and offer people a dignified dying that does not involve actually you know saying hey you think you should just die now and give up on life we need to offer people hope and of people life that's what most positive care doctors say consistently in surveys and euthanasia is not the right way around it's not not what care is it's against all medical codes of ethics all historic codes of ethics all religious codes of ethics everyone agrees that this is a wrong thing to do to terminate life in this kind of way and it leads to a culture where people devalued lives they say this kind of life is not worth

living these people are therefore less valuable than those people and that's such an awful culture to live and i this is exactly where the netherlands is going at the moment and the fact that this is now progressing to very young children just shows the danger of legalising eastern asia anywhere in the world these things gradually progressed the more i for cases the more different or more different ways rob you. go ahead yes i think q you are severely in saying something which is not right 1st of all. we look we doctors in the netherlands also care for children care for sick people. if there is a possibility by good care and mind children evelyn says in the top of the belly of the. if you ation in the world if there are situation to alleviate pain by period of care our doctors certainly will do that but we are talking in this kind of cases of patients who are suffering so much which where the suffering cannot be

alleviated by whatever their hits. in such cases it is much more humane to help somebody die peacefully. by yes of course by the hands of a doctor or by giving medication but it's much more humane and then let it be patient die by starving them to death by stopping for and think it's like that or even let them die it is a wrong perception from christian people there they believe that that is not possible to give you mendes they believe that all suffering can be healed but if care and that is absolute nonsense that if something bad. happened and i don't consider this to be a bad thing if something bad would have happened it would have happened in the netherlands where we have experience for over 40 years ok and we do not see a distain tryst depletes lopez always has talked about him on

a very basic level it could prove on bearable both financially and emotionally for parents to look after helplessly ill children for years and years how can others judge when not in their shoes. but i think that the problem here as well is that unbearable is very hard to define and terminally ill or it would ruin. well even that's hard to define as well and doctors routinely get it wrong with the how long some of these got left to live so there's 2 things that they've got to find one is how long someone's got to live and the other is how unbearable the suffering really is and both of those things get watered down over time in oregon for example terminally ill has been watered down to you know you require the medical treatment to sustain your life which means even diabetes is classified as terminally ill where people can live for decades with diabetes this is what it's actually did they don't know exactly what you know around the definitions of what causes what is terminally ill what is unbearable it all is on the thing and that the fact that

will fit down now to children as well so is exactly the slippery slope that happens when you legalize euthanasia in this kind of way it's absolutely nonsense what you say it autumn patient with having diabetes will not be helped in his suicide just because he has to die. if there is a diabetes is it part of suffering but it's certainly not the reason and this is to wait. they can because they're not going to the problem talking about our 7 illness as a part of but that there's then there are other things and these are determining whether a doctor will help or not and not a diabetes and i believe i mean i think if you don't want to have euthanasia you're not going to ask create you won't get it will get absolutely perfect health care in the netherlands and in oregon it is nonsense to say that it is suggested. to

patients that they should make a choice for this it is not one of the nicest thing for a doctor it's not. the case sometimes. it's not nonsense at all or many reported cases where patients if. you know. you know we can't maybe we can't treat you for this and so you should think about euthanasia have you thought about euthanasia and don't suit repeatedly said that to patients and they felt the pressure of let's and this is what happened if you had the rising vulnerable patients because you've legalized it in law and got to start to normalize it and this is exactly what's happening now in netherlands right you know you where you. give me a quote to that article i have never read what you said to distil something you think or you believe which is happening maybe there have been cases where it is has happened i must say that we are secret but it is certainly not the general idea of

our laws practice in the netherlands how would this practice in oregon how destruction. looks down right now ok we're going to start it time to the last 10 going in the sorry rob we're just out of time 10 go ahead 10 seconds what you've got about in the level of the culture of death where 4 percent of deaths euthanasia and this shows the prevalence the normalization of killing people because they're suffering ok rob if you want to just retort about 5 seconds that's your opinion ok attempt as it were of the intellect and the to see our christian concern and rob's junk area executive director of the world foundation of right to die associations thank you both very much we're at the cross of some more great programs in moments find out what's on offer where you are after the shortest of breaks live from moscow this is r.t. international.

so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy. let it be an arms race. spearing dramatic to follow to the only really exists i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. to. her this is a report i've ever played high a low poker.