you know like ok it's a conspiracy theory that the western rule or world is ruled by paedophiles who are ronnie and you know janet's child sex trafficking yes that's a conspiracy theory but geoffrey epstein exist it and he is circle exist it and this circle included people from their what we can call high society so why contra people just you know make their all conclusions and go further that's absolutely nato spread by the mainstream media is that they're not based in reality at all they're based on ideology for example. saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction he was a maniac who wanted to destroy the world that was a huge conspiracy theory but no on shabbes down new york times twitter accounts no one says you'll lie to us how many times did new york times report that saddam

hussein had weapons of mass destruction then so for hours and sometimes tens of thousands they got they say it's not a conspiracy theory and mr trump is a lie you should be labeled and the new york times would continue business as usual right and not only did my case and i compute surprises in the up promotions and they and they were just keep up the ladder for a spreading their false narratives here you know this is the limit george i mean. in this is all the media's fault i mean let's just look at coded i mean you can look at a one hour one hour of prime time go to every single major cable station and they have their or their panel of medical experts but they all say different things ok i mean what are people supposed to believe and because they can't believe the official narratives they're going to try to make conclusions themselves that's only natural and lastly over the last. days the way social media platforms of behave no

wonder people start thinking unthinkable and sometimes a reasonable basis because they feel they're being lied to. they're just absolutely right it's bad business the fear is too basic purpose which is you know the man your opponents as they is of conspiracy theory and say say oh these people put forward ridiculous conspiracy theories that joe biden was involved with rolling ukraine an influence peddling and trying to get a prosecutor fired because what the project it's on there isn't there. when you say that barack obama was spying on the trunk campaign that's the thing there is the theory but the one that i. on hussein had weapons of mass destruction and even more seriously that he was involved in the $911.00 terrorist attack that apparently is not

a. claim that modern day to. fix the 2016 election for donald trump which the media have been claiming i think they do it to this day that's not a conspiracy theory. they claim that hunt abidance lab or the e-mails that have just recently emerged. a product of a russian this information that's not a conspiracy so so that where you are you are allowed to put forward your conspiracy theories was me airing your opponent as being a conspiracy theory. if you look at the new york times how many times use the word conspiracy theory all day every day innumerable stories used to it is there is it there about whom about the people that they politically donald trump is the puppet arab leaders but no no we've been your tribe not to the way we say that but i'm

a movement controlled every single thing in the well that's not a conspiracy theory you know you know demon you can compare this is a controversy surrounding joe biden's son hunter and then we can compare it to to rush again so rush again is based on anonymous sources exclusively with them and sources and. flimsy and even fabricated dossiers ok that were paid for for and they all had that and the dossier had a political aim ok to discredit and that's called opposite position research and happens all the time. but opposition research that isn't usually used to impeach someone ok but in the case of the the main the bike family i mean there are calendars there are people that it made it that they met my. he transfers and you know i mean there's a lot of you know me you know those bones the dark about what russian gate was all up in the clouds built you know i counsel floating in miraculously in the clouds

here but you know one conspiracy theory and the other one is debunked but i mean you know and then where the journalist in the whole of the not i mean it was a pretty ugly car so when the quads that's quite a spade a spade i think people should be named and shamed in this case i mean christopher a steals dorsey a claim that russian prostitutes or any of them sounds on drugs had when he was in moscow and that was completely below him and there was nothing behind it. but you know these dossier is still mentioned and the mainstream media not only in the united states by you know. media outlets i guess spiegel magazine in it in germany all i know more and in france they continue saying that russians stole their american election by placing ads on facebook for them out of $100000.00 or

less you know so these are just absolutely incredible lies i mean allies simply don't make much as i told you you know the so-called popular conspiracy theorists you know there are many conspiracy theories about coronavirus well because the theme who looks absurd specious that's why you have these yes nice sometimes about corona mafia or corona craziness corona grease in nature all 2 that people create such the it's the conspiracy theories of the mainstream media are based on the ideology like poetry and poison not only i don't think so because no one else was interested in poisoning hume well i mean there were several very strange deaths or. western politicians your positions in the last few years make i'm just a leper who was called polish who cannot get home to god so depressed that he

hanged himself in his own martyrs and no one is asking questions you know your kaido who was who was the black sheep of european politics you know the you convened wise men's meetings to see how he is in france could be contained and then he just drove his car badly and walked into an accident and i. was interested in this of course no one will buy it will not bother me yes all the pushing was interested in that well you know if you could do it so this is all based on ideology this is all based on demonizing certain people like you say a lot of bad things about some foreign leader and then something happens and then you say who else. well you know i mean this is laziness as well ok i mean if there is that it's open to the many of these people does have a default position they're not really interested in facts ok they they're interested in how you can perpetuate their political agenda here in georgia it's like you know another one that keeps circulating around even though it to be

debunked is the bounty hunters. in afghanistan where you had the highest serving general american general and yet he has gone public and yes now it's about 3 or 4 weeks ago saying that he has heard nothing up there is there is he has no knowledge of this but but still in the u.s. a political campaign the presidential campaign it's still being circulated i mean so even if you go to the very source ok it's soldiers being killed by how a band that are being paid by the russians ok and they whittled it down to someone a soldier a former soldier or someone someone associated with the iraqi government that is one other percent dependent on the united states and trump wants to get out and so all of a sudden this story gets circulated and and then it gets down to well maybe you shouldn't leave afghanistan when the american public overwhelmingly wants that to

happen when see that conspiracy continue to supply to flow because it has political advantages for some. yes that's exactly right and and you notice that even the in last week's the town hall debate biden again came up with this nonsense about the. and of course the moderator george stephanopoulos did nothing to correct him none of the fact checkers did anything to correct their senate the tammy duckworth just about every day tweets out something about our how many days of pasta you 1st heard about the bounties on the u.s. soldiers and still donald trump hasn't said anything about it so it just has momentum of its own it doesn't it doesn't matter that it's been debunked apparently it's perfectly reasonable to peddle this sort of nonsense and in fact the whole russia gate is still people still peddling this thing about how russia is interfered in the 2016 election on behalf of donald trump and then you know and

that somehow the 26000 election result was tainted by russia no evidence has ever been presented i mean every single thing that we have learned since when you 16 as sure that there really there was no russian intervention except for it what it did prove though we're going to go to a break what it did prove is that this was a conspiracy ok but they didn't prove it ok so instead of coal when we debunk it were conspiracy there is when when they were refused to rebut us you know that they they believe that their narrative how's about you because they will they won't debate around that jump in here gentlemen when you go to a short break now let's or break we'll continue our discussion and some real and stay with marky.

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welcome back to crossfire where all things are considered on purell a bell to remind you we're discussing some real news. ok let's go back to hear it in moscow you know and looking at what the. what's happening to the internet in these platforms critically facebook and twitter and then we can throw in google here we've seen particularly in the last weeks the last few days last week where they have very very stridently interfered into the political process and were talking about the growing scandal and allegations around the vice president former vice president's son. and we have seen facebook and

twitter actually acknowledge their involvement in this and they've kind of pulled back a little bit but i mean what's really quite amazing to me is that again we've talked about russia gave in the 1st part of this program all of that was based was not based on any verifiable public sourcing and they let it go on. on and on and on and then when they have a case here and we're all 3 of us are saying allegations i'm not a lawyer i'm not looking at the direct evidence myself i'm looking at reporting on it and i will judge for myself but even that they don't want you to do that's what makes this very very serious and very very dangerous and people don't say something and be heard it will become a trend go ahead jim. well basically if you look at some what they use agents against the so-called conspiracy theorists they're just very strange almost laughable i mean i'm quoting look you go here the conspiracy theory school

a name that there is a criminal organization involved in the clintons a bomber and they use vestment banker george soros who are doing something bad to the world well everyone who has access to news because you can see that maybe there is no secret organization but they share the same ideology the clintons a bomber and soros they supported the same eagle coots in georgia in yugoslavia in ukraine you know and they all the support them in the same works in the same ways for the same reasons and it's public knowledge so it's 8 policemen were killed in 2014 during the so-called peaceful my die before the legally elected president was toppled and instead of apologizing these people say the process in baited ukraine out of nothing. without any pretext so. when

they. accuse someone they excuse either their opponents or the messenger you know there was no one of a little bit of that used to tremendous media it is bad but you know for example the s.p.o. magazine. called sir roger monk naming bond of the. facebook phoned us saying that something i called something should be done because social networks now operate in like chemical industry in the 1950 s. and their poison and everything they're all in themselves they grab huge profits and out a lot and they're refusing to have any control over them well just recently we've heard from facebook and from a pro american politicians that nobody imitations on the internet should be imposed in china in russia you know the congress well basically in russia there are almost no limitations you know you can read or in press you can read people claim and one

can boil them from the fallen angel not pre-game but that it's not labeled we don't know such a thing as a ball you know label in something at least i haven't seen it in russian internet i've seen it hundreds of times in the american internet so it's a very strange story it's clearly. not strange it's very easy to explain i think your georgian mean is that you know the interesting thing is that if we look again at the the controversy surrounding the former vice president ok well these major social networks are doing they're putting up. barriers on all sides ok and what they want to do it's an instrument to maintain the status quo this is what this is all about 2 main pain the people in power ok and anyone that threatens that status quo of the ruling elites will be challenged and

because of the nature of the technology you can be disappeared i mean you've just gone from the ether ok and it's ideologically driven but it's also you know in a sense class driven to ok to protect. people's. assets and properties and things like this where they want to do this ruling class why. to reproduce itself ok based on their ideas of merit and they don't want anybody else coming in and you know what these internet companies are perfect for these people to maintain their power in position the fascinating thing is that we always think about technology is evolution in changing in the next room illusional it right now no these people are stand status quo people go ahead george yes that's right and it goes back 220162016 was a profound shock to the global elites trump's shock victory in the united states

the. referendum in the u.k. and from that moment on the pressure grew on the internet companies because up with up until then the internet companies were basically you know they let they had a pretty much a laissez faire attitude. because it seemed like it was a leap obama isn't would go on forever and from that moment on there's something that the politicians the media started telling you it is your fault you did this you allowed hootin to manipulate you you allow trump and all the conspiracy theorists around trying to manipulate you are you allowed the bricks it is to manipulate you you better get your shape up or you will be in trouble and the internet companies who are more powerful than any company that has ever been in the history of the world i mean sound at all oil 18 c. with nothing a powerful is google facebook and twitter i mean they control the flow of information throughout the world it's fantastic power and once they decide that who

gets on our platform and who and how we can manipulate the algorithm so that no one can actually find you and google that and of course it's you know they they went at it and so when it started over we'll just deny space to the holocaust deniers oh well we'll just deny to the neo nazis then we'll. just deny to alex goen it was step by step because they knew that all of this fighting was a real you know that's a good idea we don't want to give space to the knobs it but then of course it started expanding well they deny the people who are opposed to vaccines well will deny a platform to the people who express skepticism about the coronavirus will deny now space to people who transmit information about hunter biden and stone and now we've got a point when even the president of the united states this campaign is closed down the presidents of press secretaries close down so they are totally involved in this

election campaign and the and there's a this is a and the only broadly on what organization what they're doing what they're doing to email which is very very interesting is that they are these these social media networks they're in a position to choose winners and choose losers ok they will choose who the public can have access to or what happened to the new york post is a very good example i like to remind our viewers alexander hamilton established that publication in some one of the longest alum running publications in america and and of course you know it has it's very salacious it's a murdoch operation right now but it still has real journalists there the article that they presented the evidence they found on hunter but what's what what what really terrifies me is that if they'd have taken it upon themselves to pick winners and losers and what do you need to mock receive for they they decide to go ahead

well you are right though august meant for some conspiracy theorists is a double play with impunity for all of the conspiracy thoughts i mean of the. you know the whole impeachment thing was based on an exam go into balance. so-called facts you know show all presentation you know is that. in fact they know it and force placed on a military base and his family was protected that's how democracy works you know. and somehow it was all debunked i mean trungpa still in power and i think it's time to when men give up is not facing any questions you know how close you may go these allegations i'm quoting of the 60. there are many claims in the internet that any corny borrowed will be calling the vatican and all those damned

before she makes any judicial decisions well below any but is anyone punished for this bone and they can use the continuation oh and rush is behind everything everything you know everywhere you have russians well basically if you want if you want to know why nato became weaker it's not because trump is crazy is because after trump's election the european union had a summit meeting where they pronounced the american president and the russian president to be quote threats to european security so this huge conspiracy theory which is basically breaking the lives of this conspiracy theory about some secret dealings between putin and trump it is these conspiracy theory that is key to nato alliance because how can trump trust these people who basically have a consensus declaring the president all the let the states for the 1st day when history

and threat to european security get all the heat was said something like they have of course rules of was a threat to see of right but otherwise i don't remember any cases but european politicians will say and then you can president you know he's dangerous he's a tough as boss and trump is an ideological thread because we criticize him a lot and i think you deserve scree just isn't much he's. long otto that ideology will say they cannot just come down at the except that you know they they are using every weapon against him bad as he sees you know george you know we've talked about the power of these of these companies and unprecedented power but you know it seems to me that they're timid they're very timid people ok they're afraid of people thinking they're afraid of people drawing their own conclusions i mean you know people criticise you know different experiments of socialism is the nanny state ok this is really what it is it's it's the the nanny internet it's the mini

information's fear where it will all be controlled for you you'll be. fed ok or is nancy pelosi say we feed the people you don't get a bully then she said that but that's the mentality of these elites we feed the people go ahead yes yes and it was if you look at the people who stop these companies there was always. democratic operatives members of the obama administration or at senior positions within the d.n.c. and these are the people who then decide what we can see and i mean that. they never did because they're afraid of the politician i mean they've they had was beautiful carved out of complete impunity which you know it is so men who have been claiming to be this. or they are nobly neutral and of course they're right that this is not going to be taken away from them and that's our right that the government is going to come after them way dan. for

a few years anyway against microsoft so you are basically a monopoly it seems to me and again i go back to might be says that you know these companies are in the service of status for their own wealth and influence for example and the politicians that will do their bidding here so it seems to me that you know obvious. sleep these companies are monopolies and should be broken up but the throwing his favorite word ideology song is there in the ideological service of these people i don't think they're going to go down the path of antitrust gentlemen would run out of time i want to thank i guess in budapest and moscow i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are to see you next time remember. when i was told seemed wrong. but i'll quote just don't call. me.

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