give our young people hope and a decent wage abolish 000 contracts and scotland and finally linda thompson says good to see robert mcculloch i think greed and disagreed with robin over the years particularly his views on bricks that interesting to hear his views on the economy post covert about to be the killer over load which was the scene of fun to watch and scrape his footballing triumph the oval beslow now is one of the homes of english cricket but back in the 80s wembley stadium was 40 years away from being boat and from 870 this is starting ground with a most common venue for england football internationals and indeed f.a. cup finals the early games against scotland were then as now mostly england victories but on the 12th of march 18th $81.00 something amazing happened scotland arrived with not just a new captain but a new style of football the passing game and probably thrashed the horse $61.00

friend of the scottish football receiving general brian takes up the story with feliks. jed when you came across this figure of andrew watson was it was he some of the you knew that much about before the you were looking at a museum in the foundation stones of of scottish football and what. well to my shame i knew absolutely nothing about him and i was working on the feasibility study in 1990 we brought me to the queen's parks archives at the old hand and i was looking through a book of old photos of queen's park in scotland team 7880 s. and there was this photo of the scotland team in their blue and white hoops and there was a black man stood at the back now has what i thought i was a football historian i knew the author wharton of preston north end in the late

1980 s. was the 1st black footballer so i actually refused to believe my own ah yes there was this footballer now there were 3 or 4 more pitches of him playing for scotland against wales playing for queen's park who were at the time of the greatest football team in the world but it took me 9 years to prove that andrew watson was the world's 1st black international football captain before i could go to the press so let's get tickets for who this man was so is born an 850 s. british guiana as far as a sugar plant or not not a slave for others is sometimes said because slavery had been long since abolished by then is brought to school it was. a local gagne's women were as father and mother and his father brought him to school in england and then

it seems to be the key point was the he started studies at glasgow university. but was this fair and watson fast phoneys football well i think i'm fairly certain that will be true they returned to london at 1st and lived in very very stylish surroundings in chandos street where they're with about 10000000 the houses that watson lived in but his father died in 1969 leaving him the equivalent of 3 or 4000000 and he returned to glasgow where he spent a year studying and amongst other people north kelvin and this is when we 1st see him playing and he becomes a match secretary for what was then a very well known team. so he as i young man will have learnt the way of the scotch professor that intelligent logical

scientific passing and running and of course he was a sporting genius and he took the scotch professor game to its highest level. now let's turn to the scene of his greatest triumph sword march 8th in $81.00 under what's the rise with the scotland team at the oval then the hormones of english football captains aside and leads the team to this extraordinary triumph of sex one the how did that come about the scotland team beat england 61 and then a form of english football because scotland played a game that was entirely different to the english game the english game which was a game of the social eat in southern england was a tripling game that came out of public schools and each job was to show that you did not need anybody you are individual and you are ready to run the empire it's

amazing that this was the attitude now scotland being a different country with a different culture for at least 500 years had played a passing and running game every week in most of the churchyards in streets of scottish towns so the scotland team headed by watson had come down and were playing a game where they passed and moved the ball which required thought which required practice which in england was tantamount to cheating if you practiced you were a cheat because the gentleman amateur turned up and deliberately show that they weren't much but that would of course 61 and the following in 51 was such a vicious blow to england that i had to learn how to try and copy this game

that watson was leading so what's this career event or national terms a was sex one against england at the oval the next year 51 for scotland against thing when. back back in scotland and also a match against wales which i also think was a 51 victory so it will help us make them because he only got 3 caps how can some of the plays in the team which wins the game 6151 and 51 only get 3 international caps what happened to unfortunately he moved to england in 1082 after the 51 game and anglo scots didn't get picked so we've already established watson was was successful international captain scott of all time again the game against thing when it was the world's 1st black football administrator in queen's park and part grove was he at the far what was 1st black professional football as

he as he pursued his career in england well the evidence is starting to mount because. in the media 886 playing for london swear see pilgrims' brentwood london caledonians he then moves to liverpool and turns out for brutal in 1907 now an unknown anonymous person seen an object sion to the english f.a. that watson is being paid because at that point they had accepted professionalism but under strict rules like you had to live within 6 miles of the team you played for so they got away with it and i have a thought that they got away with it because watson was able to rely on his upper

class pals in the english football establishment who would certainly not of wanted to embarrass sandra watson but i am going to say he was the world's 1st black professional footballer. under what's and how would you put of in the world pantheon of football i mean we could just say that in the 19th century he was as influential as well let's say pelley in the 20th century no disrespect to palin is it genius football. but that's where his influence sense i'm sure watson played at a time when england in 1902 had to it to be that their game was wrong and they set out to copy andrew watson and the other scotch professes this game went through england and through scots and english people who followed them went around the world he is easily and by far the most important black

sportsman of the 19th century and probably the greatest black footballer of all time join us after the big where we continue the story of andy what's new and look at how the influence of black classes helped transform attitudes towards visit them among that ball fine china thing.

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welcome back at this statement grinded march 18th 81 and 2 watson laid his skull insights told of markup of football victory alex is in discussion with g.i. joe bryan and then john barnes of liverpool and england what happened to our new works and after his footballing career we've been to his his grave side and in richmond what happened to underworld simplicity go after football. well after football he operated out of liverpool as a marine engine in for 20 years that that was his job he eventually moved to kew probably a mile north pole where he is buried and as happens he was forgotten if you can remember one great player per year for 50 years you're doing well so when he was buried it went entirely unnoticed because by the 1920 s.

everybody just knew that england invented everything he had been forgotten now if we were to understand the truth of andrew watson we went then have to accept that andrew watson was one of the inventors of the modern game now seeing as he is an english that couldn't be allowed but jet of course as the work of yourself and others under what's is experiencing something of a revival of the mural that you mentioned and glasgow tell us about how the importance of under watson is now being revived the whole of that his name will soon be on the lips of a scottish child knowing whether what a great football influence he was i'm hoping that in the next 5 years there isn't a child in scotland who isn't proud to venture watson but the road is long and hard because he has to be placed into the curriculum hundreds of media reports

mean to be done on him and they need to be repeated year on year we then need to move on and push forward the truth that scotland invented the modern world game now that's going to be a very very difficult thing it's going to take us i would say 20 years before people start accepting that there is an argument but obviously with my book and the work of what is becoming more and more people around the world we will eventually succeed in placing and you watson in the pantheon of world football. unless they have a young black kids and scotland important might it be to them to know that the country was kept by this amazing player way back in 1008 is wouldn't that be an extraordinary thing to understand and to know about skull. absolutely. i always

tell the children that like them i'm on a job terms and spans i've moved to glasgow 30 years ago i've been accepted and i'm able to say and look at andrew watson for those of you a plaque and have a right in the last few years here's a man of whom you can be proud and he shows you that you can succeed because you will be accepted gentle brian thank you so much for telling us some of the remarkable story of underworlds thank you. now exactly 100 years after andrew watson became the world's 1st of a black professional footballer signed for the masses i deem a bootle young man called john bob sign for liverpool football club john welcome to the alex aman show thank you very much for the pleasure under what a given i have the figure of this extraordinary story of a black captain of scotland led his team into sex one flashing

a final and that was lost from the the annals of football history why do you think that is i obviously was on your come on the show i did some research on it i did know about scotland's 61 section of england as all english men do but to know that there was a black man davis got into the time of course not why was a loss of the annals of history was because of course a lot of people you can go back to someone for example like tony collins who was the 1st manager back manager from rochdale who won the league cup that no one knows about we assume that that's what we're starting with the band isn't and that manager started with in the eighty's or ninety's whatever the 1st manager came up so of course we don't know much about the historical aspect of so many blacks think it's in history and that's why it's very interesting to really delve into so 100 years after the brutal side and watson you became only that the 2nd black player to sign for liverpool football club how much of that racism did you encounter

in that period of the eighty's ninety's. well of course people remember me citing political of the iconic picture of me back in the bed on off the pitch against everton when i don't even remember doing it because of course back then a bit out of the field was a regular occurrence so while it was a high profile game difficult r.c.m. it's on me to make a big deal about it i was in 1908 from 981 of us playing football that was a regular occurrence think it but they fought for it racism wasn't unique at that time it wasn't even discussed it was a part of everyday life not just in football but in society whereby people were racially abused and no one batted an eyelid so of course football behind media attention very high profile people made a big deal about how terrible it was but my thing even back then was about how racism in society is much worse in terms of what the average black men go through rather than me as a professional footballer earning the money i'm earning to the life i'm living who make it a race to be on a football field but side of racism and invisible when i was kids were thrown a black people every day of their lives just a society day late and yet that dominated that when they went to jobs the lack of

opportunities and i thought i'm much more interested in it and stepping out rather than complaining about a few races in bulgaria or some races football fans and that's really what i'm now interested in doing a new watson in the $880.00 s. of a sect of queen's park then beginning to club in the world he was the 1st black football administrators so what does that tell us about the the lack of progress in 150 years it's speaks volumes as does tony collins the 1st black manager in england who managed rochdale not a big club the 6 years and won the league cup but he wasn't particularly successful at rochdale however apart from the league cup however he stated it's off a 7 years so that tells you that although you're black and you are not necessarily being successful but they they judge you based on your ability because paradoxically the letter when there weren't that many black people racism was less . the more black people that you have in any kind of street there is more racism

because there's only a certain amount of elite people and if you have more people who want a slice of the pie to get into these positions that it then becomes of threats to the status quo so while you have wanted to black people the racism doesn't have to be great because if there is they don't pose a threat to the status quo because it wanted to have them when there are hundreds of them they pose a threat so therefore a narrative has to be then be spoken about about the 2 groups but tensional 2 groups worth there was no discussion about and so what's its potential because it's there to be c. or tony collins perception because that doesn't pose a threat to the exodus the status quo that we don't want sets paradoxically there's much more racism in countries where there are more black people rather than less and much more the lack of opportunity for those people because of that situation but i'm 1st have the story if i knew what's and just a few months ago it as something like most scots amassed in football as a child i felt really angry that i'd never have this guy. and was cheated

that apart from the sex one freshening of england which i don't like to hear about but cheated that i had to have this great scottish play your even just a victory out of i mean you know you're not of the late on that think that's rushing and he said that with such vigor and such meaning it was a 61 it was 61 beats and. those who are disallowed goals for scotland as well and for their benefit. but it. how do you think it would have acted as an. inspiration role model for young black kids to know that the scottish captain and that triumph was under what some would that in itself be an inspiration for youngsters very possibly of course black history month is about empowering black young young black kids to understand that their history is varied and you have exceeded black people in the past from a intellectual point to the scientific point of view who have done great things but this is what would be good for a long while we've been trying to influence young black kids to see their heroes

not just as boxers or football as a scene as intellectual seems a scientist so that's what we do more importantly black history month should be for black people should be for white people because white people have to understand the history of black excellence from an intellectual and moral point of view we need white society to see if there's equal not for us to see ourselves as equal because i know are equal so the inspiration that i can give is fine but once again what we also have to do to have to say yes there was the most intelligent man in the world from a scientific or intellectual point to be was a black man i mean he wasn't but if you say that that's fine i was going to help young black kids now if they can get a good indication if they're going to get stabbed by the time they're 40 because of the inner cities that they live in whereby we have to solve that problem to give equality to underprivileged kids and how do you scotland as an example because when as you well know there was a huge night crime problem in glasgow many years ago 15 years ago whatever it was and it was seen as a in a city problem where i had to tackle the inequality in the cities for these young

kids that was fine what is happening in london is not seen as an it's a problem seen as a black problem. and of course the more you have this narrative that it's back it's getting back it's well it was in scotland it was in the white problem and you were to see white unworthiness or whites delinquency was in a city problem and john you came as a lad from jamaica thing went but if you could have played for scotland if the scottish football association of moved a bit quicker is that true would you reject instead of playing for scotland if they'd just go off the back saves and sighted you up i could have played for scotland northern out of nowhere else because my dad was a diplomat he's a colonel in the army what's a sad person x. or talk about stimulus was that he was his classmate so i'm from a little cost american family my dad got a diplomatic posting for 4 years so we did a great we just came because he was a he was a military attache asa 4 years i'm going to go back to jamaica i went that offered a scholarship to go to american american university and while i was playing in the pop watch that so be playing enough to be a concept that's why i stayed so i became rich as it is and not any citizen so i

couldn't play friday before home old nations england was the 1st one to ask me when i was 18 years old i could have played yes and i in fact when i 1st came to england in 1976. i remembering them playing scotland at wembley i think it can score when i won one element course we were jumping on the goalposts and evaded the i think it's important scotland then you know it wasn't an england fan and i like to be on the dog and you know i like the attitude of the scots so i was quite happy scotland's between them then so i would say yes they would have they would have a good chance had stopped and asked me i would've played for scott. and finally jordan and they stay mia in watching england play the oval will you you give a thought to under what's in the scotland team of so long ago i had a great time at the oval when i came in $176.00 i went to the oval but i saw the west indies destroyed their cricket which gave me a lot of joy but of course next time i'm at the oval it will be difficult for me to even think about that only because the oval to me is a cricket ground so imagining in the play scotland at the oval and scott winning 6

well and of course because i'm an englishman now i've been for many years. i don't want to think about scotland ever beating england which you can appreciate but you have a thought that under what's well now i'll think about agile watson obviously and i would want to answer what's it to us court all 6 goals but i want them to score 7. john barnes what for liverpool adding with thank you very much indeed thank you very much you could have it was fitting that it was a little cooler scotland if only time peter. thanks very much. at this famous grange in march $881.00 and towards the latest scotland team into football history his career saw him play for the greatest club sides in the world queen's park and couldn't the end but his extraordinary talent didn't trail plays for other black players it was to be almost a century before celtic's paul wilson became the next black player kept for

scotland and 130 years before if you're my d.h. he became the 1st black women to captain scotland's scotland was not alone in being slow to see black players bricks through and the beautiful game before the 2nd world war international football was basically an all white sport since then black players such as england's great john barnes have transformed the game not least in the premier league gradually country by country this is helped change attitudes among the young as a battle against racism is carried forward generation by generation of great interest is why the and you what's a story has been lost to history that is until the work of people like judge o'brien have now brought it back into the public gaze if postulations of scottish children had knew and that one of the most influential figures in the foundation of the greatest game on earth was black and scotland's captain how would that have impacted on the battle to be endemic racism and what could it have done for the self-esteem of young black kids growing up in scotland's indeed perhaps the over

881 it could have become as to attend it for scotland fans as wembley in 1986 is for england fans but it's not too late if a celebration of black history is to mean anything at all then it's just focused such as andrew woodson who need to be rescued from the head and bolts of the past and the stored to their proper place as people whose contribution changed history changed for the better and inspired us all for the future and so for alex myself and all of the sure it's good bye for night stacey and hope to see you all again next week.

it was a very nice so far from president wrote that i could have said no thank you or i could have said thank you and i said i'll take it and now it's time to introduce my best to mr don't travel thank you says a dream much to their. name whatever you want to name i mean i don't know how when i come there in news that's dishonest tell what i can do that a recorder or network that's totally dishonest c.n.n. is says you know 100 percent negative i clearly there's a change fast changes so fast sometimes i say wow that's going to be a great story i'd be

a pretty good reporter now there's good as you. will see what happens. i always say who knows what we'll see on the field will be a success. secrets prisons are not usually what comes to mind when thinking about europe however even the most prosperous can be deceived we've been busy roads along the way to view houses were allowed to leave prison was located and the only people had access to the story investigators held the uncovered the darkest dealings of the secret services but i mean. you grated nor in. hockey seem a bit of sore knee for. justice on our team. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to us on the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then.

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