now imagine a time say we're going on the ground as the u.s. senate votes on president trump's nominee judge amy kearney barrett to the supreme court who could tip the balance in upcoming votes on criminal justice including claims against excessive police force coming up in the show as billionaire as well for rises to have a 10 trillion dollars amid the people making coronavirus pandemic we investigate the global police state as it seeks to protect private profit at the expense of humanity and his bills passed through the u.k. parliament that seek to immunize soldiers and undercover police from facing just as we investigate a new film ultraviolence that explores the collision of endless war and endless police brutality and why it requires endless resistance all this more coming up in today's going underground 1st britain finally faces up to something of the alleged war crimes committed during the so-called troubles today as a parliamentary committee releases a report into the legacy of bloodshed in ireland it's wrong being alleged that

british army techniques employed in illegal british wars like the one in iraq were honed in all star the new book traces the past present and future of state coersion and its critical connection to global capital joining me now from los angeles is the author of the global police state professor william i robinson thank you so much for coming on we got a hint arguably of the global police state from wiki leaks they released the iraq war logs 10 years ago this week this month what is the global police state the title of your book i mean 3 things by global police state but let me put that in context by saying the starting point for the discussion of global police state needs to be this severe crisis of global capitalism the pandemic didn't create the crisis it only made it much worse and in talking about global police state there's 2 dimensions i want to highlight one is the structural technically we call that accumulation but it's a crisis of chronic stagnation in the global economy and the 2nd dimension of that crisis. is is political this one of state legitimacy and capitalist henschel money

so i mean 3 things but global police state and the 1st as we see a deepening the and the extension worldwide of transnational systems of social control of repression militaries asian and warfare all around the world and we see that in order to contain the real and the potential rebellion of what i call in the book surplus humanity and the mess of the downwardly mobile and destabilized and conclusively impoverished global working class and you know very quickly the international labor organization has already reported that one 3rd of humanity that 2000000000 people in the world are at this point of what i call surplus humanity structurally marginalized unemployed that have to scratch out a living in an informal economy which is deteriorating and collapsing and then another 1300000000 workers in the world work in extremely precarious condition so we have one half of humanity isn't this

a misery deteriorating thing for the fake you're immediately talking about cost if you when this program suggested that class warfare may exist it made the model current times newspaper but you quote warren buffett claiming it's been going on for decades class war and his class won tell me about this this. connection between class and the global police state than more clearly. sure well let's look at it global inequalities have reached unprecedented levels i mean we can barely wrap our minds around these inequalities one percent of humanity controls over 50 percent of the world's wealth that we know because that's been broadly publicized but more significantly 20 percent of humanity in that amount is is is shrinking as capitalism world capitalism continues to restructure controls 95 percent of the world's wealth so 80 percent of humanity controls only thought of percent of the world's wealth and under those conditions under this conditions of extreme inequality those that rule the world including warren buffett needs to develop

systems of extreme control and repression but you know i want to add one of the thing when we talk about warren buffet and what i refer to in the book as the transnational capitalist class and the 2nd dimension of global police state as independent of the systems need to repress and to wage wars and so forth to hold the mass of humanity down global police state is a men's profitable at a time when the global economy has been in chronic stagnation and so we see that the whole global economy and society is increasingly dependent on militarization and wars interest actual social control just to keep the global economy moving forward he used the phrase military keynesianism i should say you also mention the fact that citibank said invest in luxury goods because there's no point investing in things that on luxury fought for that elite military keynesianism do you see that as the core project now of near liberal government that's that's the one of

the arguments of the book and i go beyond military can as it is and we thought that since the post war to carry the 1960 s. and 1970 s. i call it militarized accumulation and accumulation by repression and here the data on how the global economy is more and more just dependent on this accumulation by repression and by militarization is is mind boggling that the middle east and north that you mentioned briefly at. beginning a program already involves 15 trillion trillion dollars the military budgets of governments around the world increased 100 percent from 2000 and want to the present 100 percent and that does that only includes official military forces budgets we also have the vast increase of state secret budgets of police and intelligence budgets almost security budgets when you add all of this up in a put this in the book you're talking about 4 or 5 or maybe a little more percentage of the entire world economy and this doesn't include this incredible expansion of investments in the global police state by private forces we

have now 20000000 people that work for private mercenary firms technically they're called private military firms we have 15000000 people that work as private police all around the world which and that number is more than public police forces in one half of the countries in the world we have the one only profitable so-called war on terror and war on drugs which are a farce because they're not against drugs and they're not really against terrorism so i can go on and on of course because the knesset i mean the war in iraq the war on drugs of course being added by the democratic contender for the presidency us me gave me from los angeles do you think there is a growing consciousness of the issues in the book because you talked about battle spaces changing from i suppose iraq to our towns and cities in your in l.a. you saw presumably the black lives matter protests after the killing of george floyd in your city so and participated here in los angeles there were tens of thousands every single day up to hundreds thousands in some mass marches and largely you youth driven but the global police state was has been on full display

here in the united states in the uprising that took place in the aftermath of the murder of george floyd but the larger story here of course is the mega cities of the world not just the war zones such as in the middle east the mega cities of the world are now the theaters for this global police state and it's where these are these are inequalities are so. red oblique acute and so all of the pineapple a of what when referring to his local police state is unbleached in these in these megacities and i keep on wanting to emphasize here that part of that is to hold down a mass of humanity from questioning this system and rebelling in the face of one president on one on the whole artist on his on the culture and of course in fairness to mr arkell mainstream media they did cover the b.l.m. protests quite a lot he told me about how you how you described liberal cultural elites facilitating this global police state you actually use the phrase new fascist culture yes absolutely and so the other 3rd dimension i had mentioned the 1st

a mention of a police state is this repressive and the 2nd is simply that it's enormously profitable to invest in wars and repression and and so what the 3rd dimension is this threat of what i refer to as 21st century fascism but the confusion here is that's just like the extreme far right wing these far right wing now fascist parties in europe or or modi in india or chunkier in the united states on the contrary these repressive systems and the investment in them has had to go is democratic and republican here in the united states is completely bipartisan the liberal elites has been deeply invested in global policeman you me and to me a hollywood a you mean novels you mean. you mean television well that is the level of the mass media the entertainment industry and yes they put forward images and i galaxian or. whatever for each who has a global police states but you know and the us that means the book is loaded with so much data you can just scratch the surface here but but let's remember something

here that u.s. military and intelligence agencies financed and advised and it's this is in the book and here is the data 800 major hollywood movies in recent years and 1000 t.v. shows and all you know all of this projects all kinds of images that are related to be thing on this globe. police state at the ideological and cultural level where that's political and economic implications of course if you do try and end the book on something quite hopeful but what eman through patrice spirit can be summoned up if more and more of us are out of work let alone because of coronavirus labor unions even if they did strengthen in numbers don't have that power i mean what is supposed to overthrow the global police state as that coercion prevents people being able to meet well there's 2 things a global revolt as already been underway and the fall of 2001000 was what we could saw quality you know

a worldwide spring of revolts every everywhere and in the world the pandemic pushed people off the street temporarily but people are now back on the street the nigerian there what we were up to you know we don't even know how many nigerians were mowed down in a hail of bullets by the police and europe but they're rising up 1st against police brutality and more generally against the social economic policies that generate global police state so we do have a. global reach rebellion underway that is very hopeful but we also have some of the global elites are recognizing that we need a massive redistribution of wealth and power downward in order to save capitalism from a self not even to overthrow capitalism so that's really what we need as a as a 1st step is a massive decreasing of those unprecedented inequalities and we need a rebuilding of social programs around the world we need a new type of really you know a global new deal and a radical reform of global capitalism i prefer would prefer it be overthrown but put that aside and and the good news is that messes of people are are now taking to

the streets and organizing worldwide for that global reform project and they are meeting up with certain sectors of the global elite which see that this reform is urgent that the system is not going to either collapse or be overthrown you know what to generate into mass an archaeologist by me and agree for me the other existential. question of course the environment you say in the book the green new deal is a kind of vacuous saving of capitalism. and. the inference is of course a police state as well why do you see something like the green new deal as just another liberal constructors' is not really getting to the heart of things at all. right now there's 2 things not going to be no deal i support the tweener deal and that's a big step forward it's rather this notion of green capitalism that the giant corporations that basically run the planets out do more for it is more about public relations than actually contributing to

a whole transformation arce of our social and economic system so that it is environmentally sustainable so that's so-called green capitalism and you know you have it's like british petroleum b.p. saying that they're shifting all their you know they're going to they're going to be renewable in the next 1020 years which is of course a lot of nonsense so i'm critiquing the notion of green capitalism that the big giant transnational corporations and the elites which are often their political agents are going to salvage us from the ecological collapse that we're already in but a green new deal i think is a very important step forward but a green new deal calls from massive we just have mission of wealth downward and massive reform and controls on the unbridled operations of the transnational corporate elites well b.p. says and it's very green modi and trump of course an account of a precious president thank you very much thank you so much for having me on it's a pleasure after the break ultraviolence after global protests against racist

policing appear to slow in the face of seemingly apathetic governments and pandemic related lockdowns we explore a new film from award winning documentary maker ken farrow the polls but and bliss resistance in the face of endless brutality goal is a more compelling thought to have going on the ground. shifting alliances to washington's unrelenting policy assaults against russia and china is already altered the world order what remains to be seen is how most going to jean will do. whether you confront us also will america ever be normal again. welcome back while the whole world is preoccupied with a global pandemic to build spotting through the u.k.'s parliament this month the overseas operations bill and the covert human intelligence sources bill are

arguably attempting to immunize u.k. operatives from facing justice both in the military and the police while many see these as 2 discrete issues a new film ultraviolence by wood winning filmmaker ken farah which explores deaths in u.k. police custody looks at the point where the issues of endless war and endless police violence meet and he joins me now via skype from london ken thanks so much for coming on only in the past few days we've had a case of alleged british police killing of a mentally ill man of color kevin clock in the in south london tell me about how your film tries to recover the memory of thousands dead at the hands of u.k. security forces police in the u.k. well what we've done is we've worked with a group of families over a long period of time to tell their stories books tell us stories within the context of what was happening in the u.k. when we shot the film which was in the early 2000 so we have the iraq war going on and in fact one of the one of the people who was killed by the police

a speech in the holder was itself a paratrooper so the connections between the 2 issues of or rule 'd and policing our own the very chair in this or i'm general though is one of the main characters and tries to get justice for speaks very openly about the connection between more policing and it's something we we shall have to be told because these issues can't really be separated and what we did is we work for 15 years with a group of families to tell a story and also to tell the story of the nation. the story of some sort of how it in this country are willing to accept violence in their own name whether it's in terms of war or. whether it's in terms of policing and we find that totally unacceptable you show the c.c.t.v. video evidence of christopher all the dying when you 1st saw that footage what it did make you feel like well i felt angry just like anybody else i would look of up at the footage and all the footage in the film from the dump of all coca we've

lived with our footage and we've analyzed them is trying to look at it in terms of an investigation but also emotions and what it does to the audience and the families in the film were very clear they wanted people to see how the loved one died and it's played out at length because i think sometimes these images that are shown it's a shame very spotty and we wanted to let people know so they can feel what it was like for christmas let's be in that position but of course a lot of what happens before and after that events the events of his death was preceded by police violence there was no investigations what happened in the violence christopher all they go into the police and the last thing he said that i was fed by the police offices and hospitals was you know you treated him badly the papers or hear about this and you know he predicted his own death in the white so the film tries to look at this footage and other lines that also look at what happened before and of course what happens afterwards you you mention in the film

the ledge the he was a he was gassed one of the many dimensions to is that one of the many dimensions your name checking the great marxist director who was murdered pastor lamey. well we wanted to make a film that appearance of many audiences and of course we mentioned possibly now because when and the film is sort of codes from all the way you know in other words as well what we wanted to do was to make a film that parents who are not just people i cared about about human rights abuses that were happening in the u.k. but people who were also interested in cinema and i think it's delicate balance some people seem to think we've achieved it but of course all these influences and all these great people from the past their work their resistance whether it's not so much films or poetry as it was about us really feeds into us today and so we try to keep that heritage of personally and others going when obviously the government denies telling everyone to retrain away from poetry and filmmaking because of their

coronavirus but one thing the government does say is that we have robust regulation off police violence. but in your film this film ultraviolence you seem to be saying that the certainly the independent police complaints commission now and now changed it enables killing. all the organs of the state since we've been working on this issues for the past 25 to 30 years the police 'd complaints or it's the p.c.c. the p.c. is just let's as a change every decade they have never ever successfully prosecuted police officers apart from the one case we reveal in this film for the 1st time and we vote early and i think the fact that we've had over 'd 2000 in a 50 'd year period and that these crimes have gone unpunished is a testament to the failure of the states the states whether it's the u.k. a labor conservative government have run roughshod over you know rights of the people of this country and in 'd this when we try to explore how that happens and

what can be done about it because the film is about the victims but it's also about resistance about how people fight back and how it's possible to have hope in these very dark times do you think even one current british member of parliament though would accept that these different let it dry police regulators are designed to promote false confidence in restitution that they are de facto encouraging violence by having them that they these agencies are actually complicit in the raising memory. they are complicit in the raising memory and so on tries to make sure that memories kept alive and of course it will now nothing can ever be hidden away and this one tries to expose that i think in some of the politicians and the states in general and all these different crime goes and n.g.o.s they very complicit in what's been going on everybody knows what that issue is a to try to do with that and i think this is something that feeds into the general population i think it's spelled in on all m.p.'s and some people some m.p.'s have

spoken out instance of deaths in custody in the past but they haven't looked at it in terms of what is systematic brutal system which kills people in some cases cases of murder some cases mountstuart and some cases. of an awful can in all these cases have never actually been sitting in the likes that they had with the film. us that . is the question not just the people of the u.k. but also to put out to the world to say we need help here when some to come out from the outside a could be un it could be another body so actually look at what's happening in this country because when we made the film an injustice beforehand we did discover that in the united states which is quite surprising police officers actually have gone to jail for the killings of people in their custody in france there are several examples were police officers have actually gone to general and i can name many countries across the world in the middle east and africa and in other european countries a lot of america where officers have gone to jail for killings in their custody but you're not saying the u.s.

has a better justice system the britons well i think the u.s. and in terms of focus in custody has prosecuted police officers and of course are not going to to advocate the u.s. justice system over the system you know equally. ok well we now have a human rights lawyer as head of the main opposition party in this country to guest star me in your film ultraviolence you suggest that josh alderman has as was murdered by police arrested dick now he's been promoted to head of britain's largest police force scotland yard. what do you make of suggest ahmed saying that as regards an appeal by the family and i know the family here in the film it just said it was a mistake it wasn't a mud. i think it's interesting that you bring up there so that they are getting the message that that gives him some of her involvement in the shot shows and has a kennedy has it and be promoted to be head of the metric was and lisa is it's

a very 'd disturbing message in some and times of secure. i met with him and with other members of families of people have been killed by the police we had a discussion with him and he absolutely promised he would look into the issue and that he was there to support families of course he did nothing of the sort and so historically. has really 'd not been there for the families and we don't expect them to be there for the families again the fundamental issue here is that the cunt this country is very well aware of what's going on in this country and this government and previous previous governments are very very aware of what's going on and they refuse to do anything about it so the people need 'd to do something about themselves and i know that the families are all nice things to try to get x. and bodies to come into the u.k. to try and assist them in their struggles for justice well we might as a guest on our own but one thing he has promoted on the front bench of people that some of him have supported the iraq war i think many people may be surprised that

you've jumped from police deaths in custody in the cells of police stations and a war that killed maimed torah displaced tens of millions of people what is the exact connection. well the connection is one of power one of abuse and one of the rights of even beings to write the right to life wherever they are whether they're in brixton or in bus or they have the right to life and it's the police in the u.k. who is shooting people like john charles a minute and it's it's the army the u.k. army are issues that people in bastrop so somebody that's being killed and to the family that's fighting for justice they really can't see any difference in terms of how they treat of course the situation of war is very straight very different to a civil situation we are in the span of fundamentally the forces of work here are a capitalist system which benefits from war and it's the same system that benefits from the control of people through groups or police and so the connection is very

close but there's another connection of course in terms of relations between campaigns we know for example in case the bloody sunday families and families from iraq have come over and met with families here and there is a connection there in some of the resistance we've made of people across the world to know what's happening in the u.k. and also it knows already what it's done in iraq but i'm not sure that is enough about what's on it in its own homes well apology committee releasing a report on legacy issues or today i just want to get through what the authorities reach for as excuses because in the film you suggest that they could hymns they they're blamed for their own death and inquest and you also suggest that judges work with cases like older to dismiss the charges of wrongdoing on the behalf of security forces. well the truth of the angry black person

a racist argument has been pulled out in this country for hundreds of years and the death of people in custody particularly black people people who are not indigenous u.k. that kind of racism fills the argument and that's both a nice paper story it's a great you see when somebody dies at the hands of police when somebody is killed by police it's police officers who are 'd there who have to give evidence if this independent witnesses and they are watching his well what is the voices and who 'd is at the offices that's billy the general public of that investigation is done by a government organization whether it's the i.p.c.c. or their p.c. and then it's judges who are again sworn to the crown to make a decision so here you have a certain a situation where every element of every organization that's meant to investigate these cases is actually beholden to the state and so we'll never have independence we'll never have justice unless there's a political will. i believe it will 'd come through through oppression well at least we have a free media journalists covering it even mainstream media journalists are talking

about the protests in nigeria security forces killing protest has been in your in your film ultraviolence you talk about a certain television media complicity yeah i think television in our opinion has to every image that goes on the previous one till you have nothing left new i think there are certain major 'd organizations basically the international ones. and what happens here now the coverage of these there is there with the newspapers of course they travel. but the consistent following of the families the persistent investigation into these cases and the need to look at the patterns here 50 is 2000 deaths unto him an injustice no journalist in the u.k. not the b.b.c. i'm not the times and nobody at actually ever counted the number of people killed by the police now i think that's a fundamental journalistic piece of integrity that has found in this country so

they're not even counting the number of people have been killed how many of the people expect them to look at the patterns to look at the problems and so look at the solutions and i think that's why we condemn in the media and also we condemn the media within this film because as everybody knows broadcasters in this country intrude in china for the b.b.c. to have refused to screw this phone despite the fact that site injustice was as he said in a more 'd winning film was shown are all over the world was screened and you are screened in south africa news isn't in the united states either but not in the 'd u.k. so i think the fact there's a phone which has been passed and effectively by the u.k. around issues of destine peaceful city is is an indictment of the so-called freedom of speech we have in this country freedom of speech is not unlimited in any place well those broadcasters deny censorship and fair thank you. that's of the show will be back on wednesday here to the day the european union agreed to a brics extension today britain is just

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