how many voters will say not my president. to discuss these topics and more i'm joined by my guest george samueli in budapest he is an author and a you tuber at the gaggle and here in moscow we're joined by dimitri bobbitt she's a political analyst and editor at interest me internet media project hi gentlemen crossed out rules in effect that means you can jump anytime you want and i always appreciated hey let's go to george in budapest 1st well george this is the last time we'll be doing this format before the election here and i think for me concerns this programming cross talk in general focuses a lot on the media it's you know irrespective of the outcome on tuesday then the media really acquitted themselves in a deplorable way this election cycle because we have at the very very end and i'm not saying you know we like this october surprise of the hunter by laptop i mean

let's just put that aside here it is a news story and the media for the law for the most part there are some exceptions but for the most part refused to recognize this is a fact that it is important for people to make decisions about their political future they talk a lot about outside meddling it's the media is meddling in this election george yes you're absolutely right. that in pot they have been intimidated by the clinton campaign and by the democrats since 26 they've so they've been accused of having publicized the disclosures the wiki leaks and thus helping. trump when and at worst helping the kremlin so just to be you know bad to the media i think they they've been scared of touching this because again they think of trump wins then they will be. blamed for this picture but that doesn't excuse their

refusal to investigate something that is clearly news with because here we have the man who presumably or piece of going to the polls will be the next president of the united states was using his name to enrich his family and. his family was in business with some very dicey people helping the chinese government which after all but it's going to be one of the big issues of the coming decades america. rivalry competition whatever with china and here is this man was going to be the president who is really seems to be batting for the other team he is helping the chinese government to infiltrate itself within american life through biden's family that is a very very big deal and for the media just to ignore it is simply

a serious dereliction of duty you know game in essentially what they have done is they have suspended their professionalism what little they handed it and they suspended commonsense and any sense of ethical behavior i think it shows their partisanship i mean they've shown their colors to everyone yes they don't want to look into a real story because the russia gate hoax was a hoax ok this has forensic evidence ok so they're suspending any kind of ethical. sense whatsoever in this george put it up they're afraid i don't care if they're afraid that this is not about being afraid it's about what's truth what is real go ahead jim well it's very interesting that george sad that the media. is afraid of being bullied for trump's victory you know that reminds me or pathetic terry in societyis you know where if some. thing functions then the media is blamed for not

paying enough attention or for you know somehow colluding with the enemy and we have credit thought during their these 2 elections 20162021 of the. i would see more. absurd allegations have just recently read in the foreign affairs there is an article headlined americans are primed to accept their adversaries narrative or does what the author is more rosenberger and here's how the story begins or russia's internet research agency at cramton link company executives in who and peroration organized religious both in support of president elect drum and in protest against him by an event and manhattan demonstration called trump is not my president who as many as 10000 people to the street so this is just amazing

i mean the masses accuse jews or you know. create in more than financial economy and then also organize in the great depression in 130 in the same way you know this. publication foreign affairs if you loose russia both help in trying to win and then organizing and really against him you know this is just amazing and what they're suggesting and the same story here i mean biden's connections to china to you know the we door world moskos matter i mean these are facts you know when they write for example that these allegations or unclear provenance this is against again the foreign affairs a recent new york war story involves biden's son hunter information on clear provenance well the provenance is very clear what you believe instead you know or.

we have seen this man in for nash and block you know i'm sorry in questions for dr carson very interesting information ok you may think what they want about the pony . doesn't seem like a very see when you character to me but at least you don't pay some attention but the reaction from the mainstream media was who cares about asylum a biden he is iowa saw go by then that's why he can be excused for everything you know but we have heard that this was not the american way i mean that americans have been teaching us here in russia in congress in poor they have been teaching us for 30 years this is not the american way and now we see that this is the american way and i can see i've seen from a national again it's a suspension ok suspension of any kind of ethical behavior of common sense of logic george you know since demon brought it up ok this foreign affairs article i mean another another publication that i used to admire is just. reduced to click bait ok

it's your mongering it's really shameful but george you want i and this program topped in the summer of 2014 under by working for but recently i mean we talked about articles that were published by politico i mean if this story has been around for a long time and the the american media makes it sound like it's a complete myth but think the same media reported upon it ok and actually threw up some red flags which the vice president's i'm doing here and now in the last couple of weeks ever since this story broke or that the next level of the story broke they said they make it sound like it is come out of nowhere and it's russian implement this information but in 2000 summer of 2014 they didn't make that claim did they go ahead george yes yes that's exactly right it was reported now admitted. it was it was reported in the. one way in which russia gaited been reported this is what

often happens in the media that they report something they you know there's one story about it that there's no follow up and people forget about that but then they can say well we didn't report it look there's a story from 2014 in which we actually reported this but yeah but where is the the energy and the of that is that you bought into something down. the drum and the geisha. the grisly case is a very serious because here we have definitely points there was joe biden because biden was clearly in his being in agreement all the investigation all the companies that need was a director at the time that he was the point man on the board of directors on what the board of directors on board of directors yet. he did this and then why he was the point man on your brain and you know you got rid of the prosecutor he

brought these companies were clearly not qualified to be a prosecutor and will in the case against brezhnev was closed down so yes there is something very much to investigate because this is the right with words toward biden but instead the media has repeated a talking point oh everybody wanted this prosecutor find it wasn't just biden oh the case against the bridge was gone and people who hated being investigated but just repeating talking points instead of doing any serious investigation because there is plenty of evidence showing that. that clearly was being investigated at the time that biden says that on the sled and that the case was brought to an end to a. definite motive behind by and intervention long behold a few months later the case against bridge was closed but george speight's you know they didn't want to put him. effort in to that story but they put all their effort

into a non-story hoax that they all created themselves ok i mean the irony here of things that are no were bought again as opposed to things that are completely invented by anonymous sources you know they the malpractise committed by the media surrounding by family it's not going to go away i mean they think that everyone's going to get know and there's enough information out there as i've said to george on that apple is that you know you can call these people you know in these even give me a call and say is this true or not ok and oh we have evidence that a wire transfer i mean you do you admit this wire trend i mean it's completely different. the rush again hoax because there was no evidence in this case there's a a trail of it apparently all around the world. oh oh yes and i would cite

several concrete examples i mean there was a team will report to us from the mainstream american media who came to prague because there were some any geisha and so there was a move today in prague over russian intelligence official with some people from trying to complain and it transpired that these media never to police actually knew the russian intelligence official was there nor trumps people i mean if they did he didn't use it bravo if they visit it they didn't need a new one from russia there then the same story about mana for allegedly meet in our songs will have been a meeting with our songs in london and these ecuadorian embassy which never happened but there have been dogs and so articles about that right and here we have a situation there was a meeting and there was a minute travis file and serious story but with inflation blob underneath your questions why waste it on 3 of the questions over. or carson because you already

failed there is a complaint against you as being the russian agent so if you said he decided to come clean he can give you one says you know if tucker carlson interviewed him you can also interview right no on his interview and because it's not in their narrative i mean the problem with that then it very impressive that it is only interested in narratives that feed it's a genda i mean with ukraine again ok maybe a lot of people didn't like that prosecuted to get to shore can call home i'll buy them going treadle but there were a real boom being all of these so-called separatists c.d.'s and even got a job in schools going to want to feel heard break and enter the heartbreak to continue on in our discussion and some real estate party.

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a little are coming. up with your. welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm curious about remind you we're talking about the upcoming election. ok let's go back to georgia in budapest on this program in december of 2016 ouster the election of donald trump i asked my viewers if the

force regime change catalog playbook that the u.s. has played around the world with a vengeance since the breakup of yugoslavia if that playbook has been brought to the united states and i think in fact equally yes it's been brought to the united states and what we're getting here is a projects. by those that want to make sure the trump is not reelected is that they themselves are meddling in this election they are the ones that are creating confusion they're the ones that. rely upon conspiratorial ideas and what it does is it is destroying. confidence in institutions and in the idea of democracy itself go ahead george yes indeed. and what we're seeing now is the classic not a regime change operation that we've seen in other countries we have the polls

putting out ridiculous numbers with double digit leads by them which suggests a massive landslide and then we have the newspaper story is already you know dissipating who will be in the biden cabinet and the drumbeat is that the election is in the bag trump has been defeated and that should that result not materialize should on if it happens on tuesday night the trump is won or that it's inconclusive and that there's going to be fights in the courts then there will be a drumbeat a consensus that trump stole this election or trump is in the process of stealing the election but he's the dems the challenge votes in the courts is really an attempt to steal the election and then you have to wonder whether what happened in other countries will in happen in the united states that would be riots in the

streets the the democrats may as well refuse to do anything about them and then you have to wonder about the deep state what would happen if let's say the military refused trump order to send in the national guard to bring in to put an end to the riots could happen really you know he he doesn't enjoy huge amount of loyalty within the pentagon they said no we don't really consider you the legitimate president we don't send in the national guard what happens if it was a rebellion within the puffins of just as a say no we're not going to go file claims in the courts challenging these counts and then that would be the drumbeat then you can you even wonder whether micro-loan and mark will step in and say well i think president trump should do the right thing and step down so you know nothing is going to. it's quite quite possible to look at is an area in the coming days but this scenario has been played out when

you look at what happened in what was called yugoslav be with milosevic look what happened in ukraine with the you know kobe because the trigger as you mentioned the trigger is. we have to question the litany of the election that's their that's their playbook ok once you can get good people that we need to question the outcome of the election that's when they go in for blast ok because you've already destroyed any sense of legitimacy it's you know how do we remedy it that's what they always do ok and it's almost always or by definition beyond any kind of constitutional decision you have to sleep ok diem or are we going down the right out there because i am absolutely convinced the kind of manipulation that the u.s. employs trends changing regimes abroad the same thing is being done now against the american people oh absolutely and it's i think it's

a case of some kind of do you mind on your mind just yes because the whole country has for many years have been living in fear every time that action was coming and that was the case in yugoslavia that was the case in ukraine recently that was the case in belarus knowing americans are basically basically tried you know asked to create their own medicine and it started with trump and started with obama in 2016 because i think our bomb our well that's my opinion he was the warmest president in us history because he destroyed several very important rules rules that i would call institutions in the weights it was under obama that special services for the 1st time gordon hall full scale in there in the media. campaign you know they were mentioned in the media all the time in 2016 you know korea was accused of releasing information on clinton's case to cause to be elections so he

was 1st given eyes by the democrats and then he was lionized by the democrats when he went to get strong so special services was involved in the political process big way under obama for the 1st time i don't remember any presidents before that a bomb or not only indorsed you are just going to get your openly can paint against the opposition candidate in 2016 remember how obama publicly promised g 7 members that trump would not be the next american president i mean who the hell was mr obama to promise it to foreign interests almost to be decided by the voters get used to it this guy is going to be a condor another 30 years in the national park so when i read in the foreign affairs and die because that i mentioned as a result of us society maybe all the more susceptible to foreign attempts to solve the how * about the integrity of the democratic process well i mean the democratic

press basically the mainstream press sympathizing with the democrats let's be clear about that the mainstream press sympathizing with the democrats has been so in doubt during all of these years they accused trial of not accepting defeat if he is defeated they accuse strom or preparing not to leave the white house if he is defeated you know you remember all these stories you remember how well trump made an irresponsible statement about his leaving office but then the democrats you know pedal did so many times so yeah you're right it's it's the same playbook you know my opinion is that people should not fear elections but under this new ideology we have a situation where every election is a risk so ok the election should be complete if you only should not be. inspiring few people and they are inferior now you know i mean it should be a risk it shouldn't engender fear but you know that that. assumes george that the

authorities the people who run the country the professional manager real class they know who the right wingers should be they've these people fear the voter of the voter might do the wrong thing again that's what they're terrified of and if you look through cities all across the country i don't think it's republicans and conservatives that. are going to turn to violence it's these people that have boarded up their how our homes and businesses they're worried about if trump wins not if he loses go ahead just his head that's that's the irony of it exactly because if they really thought that. trump would be beaten they wouldn't be fearing violence because then the people would be out celebrating and and drinking and whatever so there's no question but what serious about this and what's you know the parallel between yugoslavia ukraine georgia and all the other places of the color

revolution is that trump really cannot rely upon his own government is own government could well collude with the riots in order to bring down trump the f.b.i. and me the f.b.i. is openly. defying it with christopher ray the cia the pentagon i mean you know you have the defense secretary you have the chairman of the joint chiefs criticizing trump when he made his walk across some lafayette park these people then are going to do what trump tells them where it should be riots and whatever into any from say if i want order brought back into the city it's better than just say you know the digit would present at any moment. you know we consider biting to be the legitimate president and again we can see what might well happen with biden we'll then. aura of the digital missy and you know you can see the defense secretary toddling off to me by then your dad the chairman of the joint chiefs

going off to me by then. that would create the aura the trump lacks legitimacy beaten he has to go the interesting thing is george is that. constitutional scholars and i am really good historians of america the year 1800 is a very important year the presidential election because that was the 1st time 2 opposing. politicians with radically different ideas about the country they explain handed to put on to the next ok they get they relinquish the presidency to their ideological and they sat down as gentlemen and that was 1900 was the time that we said the republic can take competing ideas so that precedent that was set in 1900 is not is intentionally as we speak to be become no envoy and it's because of the lack of trust in democracy

not because of. outside meddling it's because they don't trust the people deem and go ahead we're up rapidly running out of time well i would say that here is their prescription for the more than time war here is how it was dark in ukraine for example you have a group of people you know reading a completely new order of pink's to a country you know that they claim that they want election day or they just take power violently in the capital and then the province which stays with its traditional well yes resists and you have something like what happened in donbass we have a civil war unfortunately the same thing is going on in the united states right now the east coast and the west caught. oh business supporting and you kind of america you know which people in the media west people in the salt do not except you know

the people in the media west feel like they were america has been taken away from them this is why i compress so many desperate simple of us so this is the prescription for the sequel war that played out in ukraine played out in a lot of other countries in yugoslavia other countries and now unfortunately that same dreadful label is brought to the united states i'm going to i didn't want this to happen your child why didn't your 20 seconds left or to let you know you were your scenario is interesting but trump will still be around so you know they're still going to be that tension and. supporters believe it was stolen from them they aren't going to defend who they think is the rightfully elected president of the united states gentlemen that's all the time we have will reconvene next next sunday and we'll talk about this here i want to thank my guests in budapest and here and must i want to thank our viewers for watching this year our you see you next time remember across.

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