tv Cross Talk RT November 2, 2020 9:30am-10:01am EST
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well let's go to george in budapest 1st well george this is the last time we'll be doing this format before the election here and i think for me can since this programming cross talk in general focuses a lot on the media it you know irrespective of the outcome on tuesday then the media really acquitted themselves in a deplorable way this election cycle because we have at the very very end and i'm not saying you know we like this october surprise of the hunter by laptop i mean let's just put that aside here it is a news story in the media for the law for the most part there are some exceptions but for the most part refused to recognize this is a fact that it is important for people to make decisions about their political future they talk a lot about outside meddling it's the media is meddling in this election george yes you're absolutely right. that in pox they have been intimidated by the clinton
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campaign and by the democrats since 2016 so they've been accused of having publicized the disclosures the wiki leaks and thus helping. trump win and at worst helping the kremlin so just to be you know fair to the media i think they they've been scared of touching this because again they think of trump wins then they will be blamed for this victory but that doesn't excuse their refusal to invest in something that is clearly news because here we have the man who presumably or piece of going into the polls will be the next president of the united states was using his name to enrich his family and he was his family was in business with some very dicey people helping the chinese government. which after all but it's going to be one of the big
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issues of the coming decades america. rivalry competition whatever with china and here is this man was going to be the president who is really seems to be batting for the other team he's helping the chinese government to infiltrate itself within american life through biden's family that is a very very big deal and for the media just to ignore it is simply a series dereliction of duty you know essentially what they have done is they've suspended their professionalism what little they handed it and they suspended commonsense and any sense of ethical behavior in it shows their partisanship i mean they've shown their colors to everyone here they don't want to look into a real story because the russia gate hoax was a hoax ok this has forensic evidence ok so they're suspending any kind of ethical.
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sense whatsoever in this george we're not they're afraid i don't care if they're afraid that this is not about being afraid it's about what's truth what is real go ahead well it's very interesting that george sat in the media is afraid of being bullied for trump's victory you know that he minds me or pathetic terry in societyis you know where if something functions then the media is blamed for long enough attention or for you know some how could you know with any means and we have credit bought during the elections 20162020 part of there i would see more. absurd allegations i have just recently read in the foreign affairs there is an article headlined an american style prime to accept their adversaries narrative of dull what the author is all. rosenberger and here's how
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the story begins are russia's internet research agency at kremlin link company executives in who and peroration organized religious both in support of president elect drum and in protest against him by a new variant of manhattan demonstration called camp is not my president who as many as 10000 people to the street so this is just amazing i mean the masses accuse jewels or you know. creating more than financial economy and then also organizing in the great depression in 1000 to you in the same way you know this this publication foreign affairs if you loose russia both help in trying to win and then organizing and really against you know this is just amazing what they're suggesting and the same story here i mean biden's connections to china to
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you know the we door world moskos manner i mean these are facts you know when they write for example there are these allegations or unclear provenance this is against again the foreign affairs a recent new york war story involves biden's son hunter information or unclear provenance well the provenance is very clear tony bubblin steve you know we have seen this man in france and block you know unser in question saw tucker carlson very interesting information ok you may think whatever you want about 20 probably instead he doesn't seem like a very serious character to me but at least you know pay some attention but the reaction from the mainstream media was who cares about the son of a biden he is our sob and by then that's why he can be excused for everything you know but we have heard that this was not the american way. and then americans have
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been teaching us here in russia in hungary in poland they have been teaching us for 30 years this is not the american way and now we see that this is the american way and i guess i've seen from a national again it's a suspension ok suspension of any kind of ethical behavior of common sense of logic george you know in a sense demon parotid ok this foreign affairs article i mean another another publication that i used to admire is just. reduced to click bait ok and scaremongering it's really shameful but george you want i and this program tucked in the summer of 2014 under by working for but recently i mean we talked about articles that were published by politico i mean if this story has been around for a long time and the the american media makes it sound like it's a complete myth but i think the same media reported upon it ok and actually threw
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up some red flags of which the vice president's i'm doing here and now in the last couple of weeks ever since this story broke or that the next level of the story broke they said they make it sound like it is come out of nowhere and it's russian implement this information but in 2000 summer of 2014 they didn't make that claim did they go ahead george yes yes that no that's exactly right it was reported now admitted. it was it was reported in the way in which russia gaiters the report and so this is what often happens in the media that they report something they you know there's one story about it that there's no follow up and people get about that but then they can say well we didn't report it look here's a story from 2014 in which we actually reported it but yeah but whereas the the energy and neil that you poured into hunting down. the trunk of the geisha. the grizzly yes is a very serious one because here we have definitely. once the world's joe biden
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because biden was clearly into being and a criminal investigation all the companies that he was a director at the time that he was the point man on the board of directors or what the board of directors the board of directors yes. he. did this in the while he was the point man on ukraine and you know he got rid of the prosecutor that he brought in somebody who was clearly not qualified to be a prosecutor and within months the case against brezhnev was closed down so. there is something very much to investigate because this directly points toward biden but instead the media have repeated a talking point oh everybody wanted this prosecutor ryan it wasn't just biden oh the big case against the barisan there was go and it wasn't really being investigated but just repeating talking points instead of doing any serious
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investigation because there is plenty of evidence showing that that committee was being investigated at the time that this is the done that and that the case was brought to answer. that definite motive behind the bench and lo and behold a few months later the case against morrison was close but george they you know they didn't want to put any effort into that story but they put all their effort into a non-story in job that they all created themselves ok i mean the irony here of things that are no a ball again as opposed to things that are completely invented by anonymous sources you know they think the malpractise committed by the media surrounding the bite family it's not going to go away i mean they think that everyone's going to fit get now and there's enough information out there as i say. to george oh and
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that apple is that you know you can call these people you know in these even give me a call and say is this true or not and oh we have evidence that a wire transfer i mean you do you admit this wire transfer i mean it's completely different the the the rush again hoax because there was no evidence in this case there's a a trail of it apparently all around the world. oh yes and i would cite several concrete examples i mean there was a team will report to us from the mainstream american media who king to prague because there were some any geishas that there was a meeting today in prague over russian intelligence official with some people from trump's complaints and it transpired that these media never to police actually knew the russian intelligence official was there nor the drums people i mean if they did he didn't music probably if they visited they didn't meet a new one from russia there then the same story about mana for allegedly median
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asante will have been a meeting with our songs in london and these ecuadorian embassy which never happened but there have been dogs and so articles about that right and here we have a situation there was a meeting and there was a minute transfer and serious inflation blob unser in your questions why waste it on 3 of the questions of dr carson because your you failed there is a complaint against here as being a russian agent so what you said he decided to come clean he can give you on so so you know if dr carson interviewed him you can also in do you know i was interviewing him because it's not in their narrative i mean the problem with that that it very impressive is that it is only interested in narratives that feed it's a genda i mean with ukraine again ok maybe a lot of people didn't like that prosecuted too big to short call my home. by them
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the world reaction is made of green cheese. but. welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're talking about the upcoming election. ok let's go back to georgia in budapest and this program in december of 2016 after the election of donald trump i asked my viewers if the.
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force regime change catalog playbook that the u.s. has played around the world with a vengeance since the breakup of yugoslavia if that playbook has been brought to the united states and i think in fact equally yes it's been brought to the united states and what we're getting here is a projects. by those that want to make sure the trump is not reelected is that they themselves are meddling in this election they are the ones that are creating confusion they're the ones that. rely upon conspiratorial ideas and what it does is it is destroying. competence in institutions and in the idea of democracy itself go ahead george yes indeed and what we're seeing now is the classic
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a regime change operation that we've seen in other countries we have the polls putting out ridiculous numbers you know with double digit leads by them which suggests a massive landslide and then we have the newspaper story is already you know anticipating who will be in the biden cabinet and the drumbeat is that the election is in the bag but trump has been defeated and that should that result not materialize short on if it happens on tuesday night the trump was won or that it's inconclusive and that there's going to be fights in the courts then there will be a drumbeat a consensus that trump stole this election or the trump is in the process of stealing the election but he's the attempts to challenge votes in the courts is really an attempt to steal the election and then you have to wonder whether what
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happened in other countries will in happen in the united states that would be riots . the streets the the democrats may as well refuse to do anything about them and then you have to wonder about the deep state what would happen if let's say the military refuse trumps order to send in the national guard to bring in to put an end to the riots could happen i mean he doesn't enjoy huge amount of loyalty within the pentagon they say no we don't really consider you the legitimate president we're not going to send in the national guard what happens if it was a rebellion within the department of justice and said no we're not going to go file claims in the courts challenging these counts and then there will be the drumbeat and you can you even wonder whether math wrong and michael will step in and say well i think president trump should do the right thing and step down. because i hear about things going to happen but it's quite quite possible that it's an aria from the coming days but this scenario has been played out when you look at what
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happened in what was called yugoslavia with milosevic look what happened in ukraine with the you know kobe because the trigger as you mentioned the trigger is. we have to question the litany of the election that's their that's their playbook ok once you can get good people that we need to question the outcome of the election that's when they go in full blast ok because you've already destroyed any sense of legitimacy it's you know how do we remedy if that's what they always do ok and it's almost always or by definition beyond any kind of constitutional decision you have to sleep ok diem or are we going down the right out there because i am absolutely convinced the kind of manipulation that the u.s. employs trends changing regimes abroad the same thing is being done now against the american people oh absolutely and in so i think it's
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a case of some kind of you wind. divine justice because all countries for many years have been living in fear every time the election was coming and that was the case in yugoslavia that was big case in ukraine recently that was the case in belarus now americans are basically are basically cried asked to create their own medicine and it started not with trumpets started with obama in 2016 because i think a bomber well that's my opinion he was the warmest president in u.s. history because he destroyed several very important rules rules that i would call institutions in a lot of ways it was under obama that special services for the 1st time got involved full scale in the in the media campaign you know they were mentioned in the media all the time you know in 2016 you know korea was accused of releasing
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information on clinton's case to cause to be elections so he was 1st dem allies by the democrats and then he was lionized by the democrats when he went to get strong so special services was involved in the political process big way under obama for the 1st time i don't remember any presidents before that are bomber not only indorsed you are just going to hear openly competing against their position candidate in 2016 remember how obama publicly promised g 7 members that trump would not be the next american president i mean who the hell was mr obama to promise it to foreign interests almost to be decided by the voters get used to it this guy is going to be a counter learned 30 years in the national park so when i read in the foreign affairs and article that i mentioned as a result of us site you may be all the more susceptible to foreign attempts to saw dobbs about the integrity of the democratic process well i mean the democratic
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press. so basically the mainstream press sympathizing with the democrats let's be clear about that that the mainstream press sympathizing with the democrats has been so in dollars during all of these years they accused trump of not accepting defeat if he's defeated bake your straw or preparing not to leave the white house if he is defeat it you know you remember all these stories you remember how well trump made an irresponsible statement about it he is leaving office but then the democrats you know peddle did so many times so yeah you're right it's the same playbook you know my b.s. that people should not feel redactions bought under this new idea what would we have a situation when every direction is a risk so ok election should be completed should not be inspired in future in people and they are inferior now you know i mean it should be
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a risk it shouldn't engender fear but you know that that. assumes george that the authorities the people who run the country the professional manager real class they know who the right winner should be the these people fear the voter of the voter might do the wrong thing again that's what they're terrified of and if you look through cities all across the country i don't think it's republicans and conservatives there. are going to turn to violence it's these people that have boarded up their how our homes and businesses they're worried about if trump wins not if he loses go ahead just. that that's the irony of it exactly because if they really thought that. trump would be beaten they wouldn't be fearing violence because then the people would be out celebrating and. drinking or whatever so there's no question but what serious about this and what's you know the parallel between yugoslavia ukraine georgia and all the other places of the color revolution
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is that. trump really cannot rely upon his own government is own government could well collude with the riot as it ought to to bring down trump the f.b.i. and me the f.b.i. is openly. defying it with christopher ray the cia the pentagon i mean you know imagine you have the defense secretary you have the chairman of the joint chiefs criticizing trump when he made his walk across some lafayette park these people then are going to do what trump tells them where it should be riots and whatever into any from say if i want order brought back into the city it's better than just say you know that it would present at any moment. you know we consider biting to be the legitimate president and again we can see what might well happen where biden will then have the aura of the digital missy and you know you can see the defense secretary toddling off to meet by then your dad the chairman of the joint chiefs
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going off to meet biden. that would create the aura the trunk lacks legitimacy beaten he has to go the interesting thing is george is that. constitutional scholars and really good historians of america the year 1800 is a very important year the presidential election because that was the 1st time 2 opposing. politicians with radically different ideas about the country they experienced handed the put on to the next ok they get 8 relinquish the presidency to their ideological and they sat down as gentlemen and that was 1900 was the time that we said the republic can take compose competing ideas so that precedent that was set in 1900 is not is contentiously as we speak to be
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become null and void and it's because of the. lack of trust in democracy not because of. outside meddling it's because they don't trust the people deem and go ahead we're up rapidly running out of time well i would say that here is their prescription for the more than time civil war here's how it was don in ukraine for example you have a group of people we know read in a completely new order of pink's to a country you know they claim that they want election day or they just take power violently in the capital and then the province which stays with its traditional well yes resists and you have something like what happened in donbass we have a civil war unfortunately the same is going on in the united states right now the east coast and the west cost all business supporting and you kind of america you know which people in the midwest people in the salt do not except you know the
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people in the meat west feel like they were america has been taken away from them this is why i compress so many desperate support us so this is the prescription for the civil war that played out in ukraine played out in a lot of other countries in yugoslavia other countries and now unfortunately that same dreadful label is brought to us when that doesn't mean going to want this to happen your strategy or i can hear 20 seconds left or 2 but you know here is your scenario is interesting but trump will still be around so you know they're still going to be that tension and if supporters believe it was stolen from them they aren't going to defend who they think is the rightfully elected president of the united states gentlemen that's all the time we have will reconvene next next sunday and we'll talk about this here i want to thank my guests in budapest and here in moscow i want to thank our viewers for watching us here aren't you see you next
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