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argument designs and i have all the lockdowns are killing people make here and joins you next hour with the latest from around the world right now though it is time for cross talk right here on our to international and in the u.k. and ireland get ready for really getting. hello and welcome across the uk where all things are considered purely about american media greed nearly in lockstep avoiding to practice journalism again ideology trumps common sense reality and after the election how many voters will say not my president.

to discuss these topics and more i'm joined by my guest george samueli in budapest he is an author and a you tuber abt the gaggle and here in moscow we're joined by dmitri bobbitt she's a political analyst and editor at interest me internet media project hi gentlemen crossed out rules in effect that means you can jump anytime you want and i always appreciated hey let's go to george in budapest 1st well george this is the last time we'll be doing this format before the election here and i think for me can since this programming cross talk in general focuses a lot on the media it you know irrespective of the outcome on tuesday then the media really acquitted themselves in a deplorable way this election cycle because we have at the very very end and i'm not saying you know we like this october surprise of the hunter by laptop i mean let's just put that aside here it is a news story and the media for the last for the most part there are some exceptions

but for the most part refused to recognize this is a fact that it is important for people to make decisions about their political future they talk a lot about outside meddling it's the media is meddling in this election george yes you're absolutely right. that in pot they have been intimidated by the clinton campaign and by the democrats since 26 t.v. so they've been accused of having publicized the disclosures the wiki leaks and thus helping. trump win and at worst helping the kremlin so just to be you know bad to the media i think they they've been scared of touching this because again they think of trump wins then they will be blamed for this victory but that doesn't excuse their refusal to invest in something that is.

clearly news because here we have the man who presumably or pieces going into the polls will be the next president of the united states was using his name to enrich his family and. his family was in business with some very dicey people helping the chinese government which after all but it's going to be one of the big issues of the coming decades america. rivalry competition whatever with china and here is this man was going to be the president who is really seems to be batting for the other team he's helping the chinese government to infiltrate itself within american life through biden's family that is a very very big deal and for the media just to ignore it is simply a serious dereliction of duty you know game in

a century when they have done is they've suspended their professionalism what little they handed it and they suspended commonsense and any sense of ethical behavior in it shows their partisanship i mean they've shown their colors to everyone here they don't want to look into a real story because the russia gate hoax was a hoax ok this has forensic evidence ok so they're suspending any kind of ethical. sense whatsoever in a george we're not they're afraid i don't care if they're afraid that this is not about being afraid it's about what's truth what is real go ahead jim well it's very interesting that george sad that the media. is afraid of being bullied for trump's victory you know that reminds me or pathetic terry in societyis you know where if something functions then the media is blamed for long enough attention or for you know some. how could nugent with the enemy and we have credit thought

during their these 2 elections 20162021 of the. i would see more. absurd allegations have just recently read in the foreign affairs there is an article headlined americans are primed to accept their adversaries narrative or does what the author is more rosenberger and here's how the story begins are russia's internet research agency at kremlin link company executives in who and peroration organized religious both in support of president didn't drown and in protest against him by an event a manhattan demonstration called trump is not my president drew as many as 10000 people to the street so this is just amazing i mean the masses accuse jewels or you know. creating more than financial economy and then also organizing in the

great depression in 130 in the same way you know this. publication foreign affairs if you loose russia both help in trying to win and then organizing and really against you know this is just amazing what they're suggesting and the same story here i mean biden's connections to china to you know the we door world moskos manner i mean these are 1 facts you know when they write for example that these allegations or unclear provenance this is against again the foreign affairs a recent new york war story evolved by them son hunter information on clear provenance well the provenance is very clear what you believe instead you know we have seen this man in france and block you know i answering questions saw tucker carlson very interesting in. i mean ok you may think what they will want

a bomb upon you but you doesn't seem like a very see when you character to me but at least you don't pay some attention but the reaction from the mainstream media was who cares about asylum a biden he is iowa sagal and by then that's why he can be excused for everything you know but we have heard that this was not the american way i mean that americans have been teaching us here in russia in congress in poland they have been teaching us for 30 years this is not the american way and now we see that this is the american way and i guess i've seen from a question again it's a suspension ok suspension of any kind of ethical behavior of common sense of logic george you know since demon brought it up ok this foreign affairs article i mean another another publication that i used to admire is just. reduced to click bait ok it's your mongering it's really shameful but george you want i and this program

tucked in the summer of 2014 under by working for but he said no i mean we talked about articles that were published by politico i mean if the story has been around for a long time and the the american media makes it sound like it's a complete myth but i think the same media reported upon it ok and actually threw up some red flags of which the vice president's i'm doing here and now in the last couple of weeks ever since this story broke or that the next level of the story broke they said they make it sound like it is come out of nowhere and it's russian implement this information but in 2000 summer of 2014 they didn't make that claim did they go ahead george yes yes no that's exactly right it was reported now admitted. it was it was reported in the way in which russia gate has been reported this is what often happens in the media that they report something they you know there's one story. how's it that there's no follow up and

we get about that but then they can say well we didn't report it look there's a story from 2014 in which we actually reported this but yeah but where is the the energy and neal that you bought into something down. the drum and the geisha og but the grisly case is a very serious problem because here we have definitely points there was joe biden because biden was clearly in his being in agreement all the investigation all the companies that need was a direct. tie and that he was the point man on the board of directors on what the board of directors yes the board of directors yes. he did this and then why he was the point man on your brain and you know you got rid of the prosecutor he brought in somebody who were clearly not qualified to be a prosecutor and within months the case against brezhnev was closed down so

yes there is something very much to investigate because this is the right with wants to buy them but instead the media has repeated a talking point oh everybody wanted this prosecutor find it wasn't just biden oh the case against the bridge was gone and people who hated being investigated but just repeating talking points instead of doing any serious investigation because there is plenty of evidence showing that. that lady was being investigated at the time that biden says that on the sled and that the case was brought to an end to a. definite motive behind by and intervention long behold a few months later the case against bridge was close but george they you know they didn't want to put any effort into that story but they put all their effort into a non-story enjoy a hoax that they all created them so. ok i mean the irony here of things that are

no were bought again as opposed to things that are completely invented by anonymous sources you know. the malpractise committed by the media surrounding the by family it's not going to go away i mean they think that everyone's going to get know and there's enough information out there as i've said to george on that apple is that you know you can call these people you know in these even give me a call and say is this true or not ok and oh we have evidence that a wire transfer i mean you do you admit this wire tran i mean it's completely different the the the russia gate hoax because there was no evidence in this case there's a a trail of it apparently all around the world. oh yes and i would cite several concrete examples i mean there was a team will report to us from the mainstream american media who came to prague

because there were some engaged and so there was a move today in prague over russian intelligence official with some people from trying to complain and it transpired that these media never to police actually knew the russian intelligence official was there nor trump's people i mean if they did he didn't use it bravo if they visited he didn't need a new one from russia there then the same story about mana for allegedly meat in our songs will have been a meeting with our songs in london at these ecuadorian embassy which never happened but there have been those and so articles about that right and here we have a situation there was a meeting and there was a minute transfer and serious tony but with inflation blob under your questions why waste it on 3 of the questions on talk of course and be of course your if you felt there is a complaint against here as being a russian agent so what you said you decided to come clean you go. give your

answers you know if tucker carlson interviewed him you can also interview right no one is interviewing him because it's not in their narrative i mean the problem with that if they're in the press is that it is all the interested in narratives that feed it's a gender i mean with ukraine again ok maybe a lot of people didn't like the prosecutor to get to shore can call home well by them going treadle but there were aerial bomb being all of these so-called separatists c.d.'s idema got a job in schools going to want to feel heard breaking into the heartbreak to continue on in our discussion and some real estate market. world.

today are saying. we dare to ask. welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're talking about the upcoming election.

ok let's go back to georgian in budapest and this program in december of 2016 after the election of donald trump i asked my viewers if the force regime change catalog playbook that the u.s. has played around the world with a vengeance since the breakup of yugoslavia if that playbook has been brought to the united states and i think in fact equally yes it's been brought to the united states and what we're getting here is a projects. by those that want to make sure the trump is not reelected is that they themselves are. meddling in this election they are the ones that are creating confusion they're the ones that. rely upon conspiratorial ideas and what it does is it is it's destroying. competence in institutions and in the

idea of democracy itself go ahead george yes indeed and what we're seeing now is the classic not a regime change operation that we've seen in other countries we have the polls putting out ridiculous numbers with double digit leads by them which suggests a massive landslide and then we have the newspaper story is already you know dissipating who will be in the biden cabinet and the drumbeat is that the election is in the bag trump has been defeated and that should that result not materialize should on if it happens on tuesday night the trump is won or that it's inconclusive and that there's going to be fights in the courts then there will be a drumbeat a consensus that trump stole this election over trump is in the process of stealing

the election but he's the dems the challenge. votes in the courts is really an attempt to steal the election and then you have to wonder whether what happened in other countries will in happen in the united states there will be a riot. in the streets the the democrats may as well refuse to do anything about them and then you have to wonder about the deep state what would happen if let's say the military refused trump order to send in the national guard to bring in to put an end to the riots could happen really you know we it doesn't enjoy huge amount of loyalty within the pentagon they say no we don't really consider you the legitimate president we don't send in the national guard what happens if it was an . barely and within the department of justice and said no we're not going to go file claims in the courts challenging these counts and then there will be the drumbeat and you can you even wonder whether math wrong and michael will step in

and say i think president trump should do the right thing and step down. here and i think is going to happen but it's quite quite possible that that is an area in the coming days but this scenario has been played out when you look at what happened in what was called yugoslavia with milosevic look what happened in ukraine with the you know kobe because the trigger as you mentioned the trigger is. we have to question the litany of the election that's their that's their playbook ok once you can get good people that we need to question the outcome of the election that's when they go in for blast ok because you've already destroyed any sense of legitimacy it's you know how do we remedy if that's what they always do ok and it's almost always or by definition beyond any kind of constitutional decision you have to sleep ok diem or are we going down the right out there because i am absolutely convinced the kind of manipulation that the u.s.

employs trends changing regimes abroad the same thing as being done now against the american people oh absolutely and it's i think it's a case of some kind of you wind on your mind just just because the whole country has for many years have been living in fear every time that action was coming and that was the case in yugoslavia that was the case in ukraine recently that was the case in belarus knowing americans are basically are basically cried you know asked to create their own medicine and it started not with trump and started with obama into thought. in 16 because i think a bomber well that's my opinion he was the warmest president in u.s. history because he destroyed several very important rules rules that i would call institutions in a lot of ways it was under obama that special services for the 1st time got

involved full scale in the in the media campaign you know they were mentioned in the media all the time you know in 2016 you know korea was accused of releasing information on clinton's case to cause to be elections so he was 1st given eyes by the democrats and then he was lionized by the democrats when he went to get strong so special services was involved in the political process big way under obama for the 1st time i don't remember any presidents before that a bomber not only indorsed you are just going to hear openly campaign against the opposition candidate in 2016 remember how obama publicly promised g 7 members that trump would not be the next american president i mean who the hell was mr obama to promise it to foreign interests to be decided by the voters get used to it this guy is going to be a condor another 30 years in the national park so when i read in the foreign

affairs and article that i mentioned as a result u.s. society may be all the more susceptible to foreign attempts to saw dobbed about the integrity of the democratic process well i mean the democratic press basically the mainstream press sympathizing with the democrats let's be clear about that there's a mainstream press sympathizing with the democrats has been so in doubt during all of these years they accused trial of not accepting defeat if he is defeated they accuse strom or preparing not to leave the white house if he is defeated you know you remember all these stories you remember how well trump made an irresponsible statement about. he's leaving office but then the democrats you know pedal did so many times so yeah you're right it's the same playbook you know my b.s. that people should not fear elections bob under this new idea what would we have a situation with every direction is

a risk so ok election should be completed she will not be inspiring fewer people and they are inferior now you know i mean it should be a risk it shouldn't engender fear but you know that that. assumes george that the authorities the people who run the country the professional manager real class they know who the right winner should be the these people fear the voter of the voter might do the wrong thing again that's what they're terrified of and if you look through cities all across the country i don't think it's republicans and conservatives there. are going to turn to violence it's these people that have boarded up their how our homes and businesses they're worried about if trump wins not if he loses go ahead just him that that's the irony of it exactly because if they really thought that. trump would be beaten they wouldn't be fearing violence

because then the people would be out celebrating and. drinking or whatever so there's no question but what serious about this and what's you know the parallel between yugoslavia ukraine georgia and all the other places of the color revolution is that trump really cannot rely upon his own government is own government could well collude with the rioters in order to bring down trump the f.b.i. of the f.b.i. is openly. defying it with christopher ray the cia the pentagon i mean you know magic you had the defense secretary you had the chairman of the joint chiefs criticizing trump when he made his walk across some. park these people then are going to do what trump does them where it should there be riots and whatever into any from say if i want order brought back into the city it's better that just say you don't know the digit would present it anymore. you know we consider biting to

be the legitimate president and again we can see what might well happen where biden will then have the aura of them to get them to see and you know you can see the defense secretary toddling off to me by then your dad the chairman of the joint chiefs going off to meet biden. that would create the aura the trump lacks legitimacy beaten he has to go the interesting thing is george is that. constitutional scholars and in really good historians of america the year 1800 is a very important year the presidential election because that was the 1st time 2 opposing. politicians with radically different ideas about the country they explain handed to put on to the next ok they get they relinquish the presidency to their ideological and they sat down as gentlemen and that was 1900 was the time that we said the republic can take compose competing ideas so that precedent that was set

in 1900 is that is intentionally as we speak to be become null and void and it's because of the lack of trust in democracy not because of. outside meddling it's because they don't trust the people deem and go ahead we're up rapidly running out of time well i would say that here is their prescription for the more than time she will war here is how it was in ukraine for example you'll have a group of people you know reading a completely new order of pink's to a country you know all the. they claim that they won't be election day or they just take power violently in the capital and then the province which stays with its traditional well us resists and you'll have something like what happened in donbass we have a civil war unfortunately the same is going on in the united states right now the

east coast and the west cost or business supporting and you kind of america you know which people in the we need west people in the salt do not accept you know the people in the meat west feel like they were america has been taken away from them this is why i compress so many desperate support us so this is the prescription for the civil war the played out in ukraine it played out in a lot of other countries in yugoslavia other countries and now unfortunately that same dreadful way bork is brought to the united states i mean going to do their duty while they still have your child while you can here 20 seconds left or to let you know here is your scenario is interesting but trump will still be around so you know there are still going to be that tension and if trump supporters believe it was stolen from them they aren't going to defend who they think is the rightfully

elected president of the united states gentlemen that's all the time we have reconvene next next sunday and we'll talk about this here i want to thank my guests in budapest and here in moscow i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are you see x. time remember across the us thank you. the

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a history of complicated and heated presidential what's different this time is that the biggest political events of the last 4 years is happening amid the coronavirus and the rest of them to the level of civil unrest sparked by the death of george floyd and the rise of the radical groups on both sides of the political spectrum. right there which is your. say. these groups attract. members who have taken to the streets may control tasks look like full scale to. be here we're going to be. busy are sometimes heavily armed and they are not afraid of violence or law enforcement . if you will of war let it begin with us. or go into trouble across the u.s. over the next week to meet this.