lawsuits calls to stop the ballots counted allegations of electoral fraud and errors that sound angry crowds on to the streets that's how the 2020 us presidential election is going so far no definitive results have yet been announced . we discussed with america's minor parties the libertarians and greens on how people like you for no real choice from the republicans and democrats. i don't know if libertarians your other 3rd parties are or will ever consistently get high enough to win

a national election we have the only winner single member districts when you take all system. which encourages people to vote for the list read all. england's free imposing restrictions following the examples of france and germany and a bit to slow a record surge in covert cases for many e.u. citizens are fuming at the mention. in my opinion the measures come too late and i think they should have been different the minute god if you have no savings or support it isn't enough for a very warm welcome and thank you for joining us as we continue to bring you the latest on the race for the white house. with the u.s. vote to modify uncertainty and claims of electoral fraud thousands of people around the country have taken that anger to the streets demanding all votes counted some of the protests have turned violent with demonstrators facing off with police up to

60 people have reportedly been detained in new york. that.

america is gripped by an easy anticipation with ballots counting entering the final stages but with no clear winner yet let's take a look at how things stand a democrat joe biden has the backing of 264 i'd like to see what his rival donald trump has 240 the threshold for winning the race is 270 votes now winning choice one more state like nevada could mean a victory for biden who is reportedly only 6 votes from his goal the state will continue counting in the morning while trump in order to turn the tide would have to take all uncounted battleground states some like north carolina and pennsylvania will not announce until later. the 2020 votes already been marred by claims of electoral fraud and errors the trump campaign and campaigns filed in lawsuits in pennsylvania michigan and georgia demanding that absentee ballots which arrived off

of the election day deadline should not be included. joined in the studio to break down the disagreements. democratic candidate joe biden is very close to that threshold but the winner has not been announced so more than a day after polling station is closed the country still doesn't have a president elect what the nation has instead are protests some of them are angry and violent also lawsuits and also a feeling of a flawed system so protests have broken out in different corners of the nation the left side is chanting pretty much make sure that every vote counts while the pro from supporters are screaming stop the count what is this if not an indication of a lack of trust for the electoral system i could remind you that before the november vote donald trump called on his supporters to vote in person and warned

that there could be potential fraud with absentee and mailed in the votes and at this point the trump camp is saying that they have the ground to bring this to court in fact they've already filed several lawsuits they say they have proof of fraud including secret the dump ballots will be going to the u.s. supreme court we want to whoa voting just. we don't want them to find any ballots at 4 o'clock in the morning in them to the list ok. not a single republican has been able to look at any one of these mail ballots they could be from mars as far as we're concerned or they could be from the democratic national committee joe biden could have voted 50 times as far as we know a $5000.00 times the ballots could be from camden. philadelphia unfortunately and say this about my own city has

a reputation for voter fraud and one of the districts of the state of wisconsin while of the results are being are now. next to 0 was added to the total number of voters and instantly that number became higher than the entire population of that district which put joe biden in the lead and the weird bits and that curve summarizes it all however then the mistake was corrected still though the republicans demanded that the votes in wisconsin be recounted now the republican cab also filed a lawsuit in the state of georgia where the aim is to pretty much make sure that all the absentee and mail the ballots that were handed in past the election day deadline are rejected several lawsuits were also followed in the states of pennsylvania and michigan and their claim from the republican is that the

counting wasn't transparent enough and this explains why the program supporters are chanting stop the cow like here in detroit. to the. to the if you listen to the speeches that we heard from both candidates pretty much their message was that they had already 'd won the message was very close to that perhaps it was way too soon for donald trump to do that because the numbers aren't looking good for him at all however the latest speech by democratic candidate joe biden once again i'm going to say that he already sounded like he'd already become president he called on the nation to unite once this election is finalized and behind us

it will be time for us to do what we've always done as americans. to put the harsh rhetoric of the campaign behind us to lower the temperature to see each other again to listen to one another treat to hear each other again respecting the care for one another to unite to you to come together as a nation so mr biden is calling on the nation to get together to unite which is in stark contrast to what we were hearing from the democrats ahead of the poll when they pretty much called all donald trump supporters and it means some very nasty things were said however it doesn't look like the nation is uniting with all the protests some of them are violent with both sides but at this point especially

donald trump sides being ready to take the cases to court and also like i said again it's not been decided yet it looks like some of the results were not to go into here until the next few days so watch this space. and we discuss the situation with guests some of whom think developments point to a white a failure of the u.s. system. there's an acquiescence to that in fact biden has won the presidency i would say don't think that whatever the court challenges are going to change anything with the possible exception of wisconsin where you have some implausible numbers that are coming out and i've seen a lot of a lot of convention on line about these strange amount of turnout which seems like you know beyond belief level of turnout and so there seem to be a lot of mystically manufactured votes in wisconsin i'm not sure that actually change the outcome of the social media has been manipulated in this election

banning accounts that there are not quite to their liking pushing people to do this to do that i mean it's with been the most manipulated election certainly in my lifetime there's no question about that and we all know which way the manipulation is going so this is this is not a mystery right this is not we all know which way the social media giants were leaning the way the major media was leaning so of course you know if biden ekes out this little bit this time of victory with a couple of states that swing swing states where there's some suspicious ballot you know wide incomes it becomes president with with on almost you know with very little the gentleman say and certainly no you know serious consensus so there will be no mandate for biden and this will last for 4 years this is a tremendous failure of the american system i don't know what else to tell you usually after every election people are like well we argued

a lot we debated things a lot but now the system has worked this year. that is not happening there's nobody in this country who thinks the system actually worked it was either rigged or it's broken or didn't work or something so this in a strange way at least at the presidential level election really settled absolutely nothing because i think that there's a lot to contest i mean this isn't an election unlike any other with all of the mail in ballots with all the early voting we knew it was due to be chaotic from the beginning unless it was a massive landslide direction everyone were sort of expect that this was going to drag out and maybe drag out until december that by law we have to have a winner by december 12th i believe it is and this river is probably where this is going to go no side is going to give up easily and i know we have all of these incredibly shady stories popping up 100000 ballots here for joe biden 120000 ballots in pennsylvania recently per job i'd offer joe biden what is this

venezuelan voter fraud is a big concern we see this public now you know you know a little anomalies popping up here and they're going to school errors but we're seeing instances where people. got a mail in ballot and then they decide to vote in person so how we should ensure that they didn't vote twice on those ballots are canceled out we are seeing instances rigged or not being allowed to look at signatures on voter rolls not be able to verify voters that there are some districts that are being very close about how they're recounting the ballots why would you do that why would you want anything but transparency but yet where did this come from and i wouldn't put anything past the left of the democratic party look at the fraud that they have perpetuated on this nation bless for years they still haven't conceded the 2016 election no one but they're going to concede this one so. it's well worth looking into i would not put it past the democrats already to pull something like this. pennsylvania is still counting votes which could prove crucial to the outcome of the election trying one there and 2016 with us in a low run of democrat wins to chavez looks at the deep divisions within the state.

pennsylvania with nearly 13000000 residents is arguably the single most important state of the 2020 but in many ways the keystone state mirrors the country well it's rust belt is dotted with the shuttered factories and rundown chimneys it's also a place of affluent liberal suburbs and conservative countryside reflecting a divided america i mean the devices in this sense going on in this country right now it's ridiculous and i don't care what anybody says that man is a race. and very lucky that somebody like donald trump is. my president and i can vote for him again while the northeast and the southwest corners of pennsylvania residents come from a long line of blue collar workers like old coal mines and steel industries the state's eastern and western borders hold the biggest population centers and a lot of industry and heartland in between and although pennsylvania is considered

a blue wall state as it has a history of voting democratic that changed in 2016 when donald trump won the seat over democratic contender hillary clinton by point 7 percent congratulations mr president but now 4 years later controversial pipeline projects have helped make fracking a political flashpoint in the debate over energy the climate crisis and the influence of big business these 2 parties are radically different and that what i think is that each party is controlled much more by its what would be the stronger i guess it's extreme wing you're right. both candidates focusing on pennsylvania president trump holding several rallies they're trying to woo the region with promises of coal and steel jobs while insisting that joe biden what a limb in a bracket hard for barges averred to do or if you're. going to deliver economic ruin to pennsylvania your families but you've got to be pretty clear biden who grew

up in pennsylvania says he isn't calling for the immediate end to the oil industry but as. pushing for ending federal subsidies for fossil fuel companies and ending new permits on public land for fracking president trapes terrified of what will happen to the president he knows that people are pressuring cats have their say if you ever shy he doesn't stand a chance as pennsylvania is the 2nd largest producer of natural gas in the united states and the 3rd largest net supplier of energy the american petroleum institute estimates its natural gas industry contributes nearly $35000000000.00 to the state and combined with its oil industry it supports about $340000.00 local jobs were afraid that if they buy a ticket wins that the gas oil thing is going to be shut down in spite of what they say in prose $22016.00 comes as despite winning the popular vote that's down to the country's electoral college system.

early and my colleagues spoke with representatives from america's 3rd parties the libertarians on the greens a whether the current 2 party domination gives americans any real also isis. the one percent that libertarians get. does play a significant role i don't know if libertarians or other 3rd parties are or will ever consistently get high enough to win a national election maybe not win in elections but impacting policy debates and reaching out to voters is what we do how it's want to pick up on something that was

just said to we he said you know we're talking about a single percent support for thought party town today that's right it's kind of spread quite even $4849.00 for the republicans and democrats so it's almost sad to say that the republicans or democrats at this point represent the will of the majority of americans do you think about as you know you disagree with that absolutely when you look at public opinion polls majority of americans want a green new deal which is what the green party for to do with the climate crisis get the economy going again majority of americans want medicare for all in both the democrats and republicans oppose those policies the problem is that our electoral system. we have a plurality winner single member districts when you take all system which encourages people to vote for the lesser evil the most people are voting against the other major party rather than for their own party so i think if we can change

the electoral system in place the electoral college with a national popular vote used the right choice voting for presidential elections. i think the greens will move way up and in the boat we get currently the state in the us is kind of how how it hearkens mentioned it's people for trump and people who hate trump that's what they're voting about and they're there strategically choosing one of the major parties it's not that they necessarily agree with the platforms of those parties and was that there is a lot of oh i pods criticism saying for a party actually can create problems more problems and build and just wason the device and because that essentially stealing quote from parties that would actually when for example the republicans or the democrats in this particular case why it is so close and those states that were saying yes sometimes even less than

a percentage point how would you react to people who say that if i had to choose we want $21.00 of the major parties i would flip a coin because i equally dislike both of them. the difference between the republicans and democrats is mostly about personality and style when it comes to the substance of the issues they're both for the deficit spending they're both for spending and taxing too much they're both for continuing the wars and those are things that libertarians oppose and even grains oppose some of that stuff as well so i actually like it when the republicans and democrats get mad at libertarians because it causes them to focus on us and it gives us an opportunity to say hey here's why you guys are wrong and here's why we won't vote for you this is what we stand for what we need real political parties that actually have members i mean what we have now are 2 major parties you tell the state which party you're in in order to vote in their primaries there's no local organization no local chapter of

the party no you don't agree to a set of principles and they do sort of party to join you just tell the states. so the electorate is their minds disconnected from the political branches. of the ballot counting extremely tight here's how it looks at this point democrat joe biden has the backing of 264 electors one his rival donald trump is 240 the threshold for winning the race is 217 votes now winning just one more state like nevada could mean a victory for biden who is reportedly only 6 votes from his goal in the state will continue counting in the morning while trump in order to turn the tide would have to take all uncounted battleground states some like north carolina and pennsylvania will not announce until later.

in other world news now major members are returning to lockdowns following direct called surge in covert cases with in some instances a 43 percent rise in victims including 3 imposing restrictions following the examples of france and germany in order to slow down the spread of the virus france says more than 40000 new cases a day is really is introducing curfews from 10 pm and in germany new infections grew by more than 2700 over the last 24 hours russia meanwhile registered more than 900000 new cases on wednesday and anti covert vaccine of russian origins in the final stage of trials well there is a growing public anger restrictions across the continent our europe correspondent

peter all of a explains. we're 4 days into what's being called lockdown light here in germany younger merkle put this in place with the idea being to keep schools kindergartens as much of the economy open as possible at the expense of social life essentially bars restaurants theaters cinemas gyms all of these closed down in order to keep open schools and kindergartens and as much business that doesn't involve direct contact as possible although those businesses that are open are under some restrictions so far though it's a fairly mixed bag when it comes to opinion on these measures here in berlin. in my opinion the measures come too late and i think they should have been different shutting down businesses at 10 pm i find absurd it looks like the virus only comes out at night during the day you can do whatever you want but then at night you have to close because the virus comes to those farms they find in justified partly i'm

sad about the restaurants but overall i find the look down necessary for the money and if you have no savings or support it isn't enough in berlin as a freelance musician suddenly everything is gone there isn't enough help at all the numbers don't paint a pretty picture when it comes to infections in germany on wednesday germany recorded 19990 new cases of covert 90 now that's gone beyond what was initially put forward by angela merkel is a doomsday scenario for the health care system of 19200 cases it's the 6th straight day germany's record of over 15000 cases the plan from angela merkel and her government is to get infections down by 75 percent with this new lock down lights for the next month or for the month of november with the hope being that if we suffer through november then we might get a little bit of a reprieve in terms of the restrictions anyway over the christmas period he said so

i don't think toughen up the. decision depends on what we can achieve in november so if we have very sensible now then we will be able to allow ourselves more freedom for christmas but i don't think that there will be lavish new year parties we have to wait and see how did today christmas and the chronic conditions but it should not be a lonely christmas over the western border into france and there's of a very bleak picture being painted by statistics put forward by french health minister. and he says that one person in paris every 30 seconds this week of being contracting covert 191 person every 15 minutes requiring medical attention there's no chance of a christmas break in what he's saying he says that people are going to have to make plans around covert 19 because the virus isn't going to make plans around them we've also you're seeing protests in france as well high school kids out on the streets this week protesting against what they see as

a lack of social distancing or article it and coronavirus measures taken in schools police used tear gas against some in paris the schools in france went back on monday. in the united kingdom and england has entered a month long lockdown but on wednesday evening just before that came into play you wouldn't think that anything was about to happen in places like all compton street in london where revelers packed in for a last pint nearly a mask nor any kind of social distancing in evidence there over in sweden a couldn't tree that had been beheld up as an example of how to limit corona infections without making measures law well it seems that they're going to have to make some of those measures law that's according to stephan logan the prime

minister of sweden he says the city. may be needed in order to keep numbers down in that country in greece this strict new measures come into place in thessaloniki where no non-essential flights will be allowed in or out there's also limits on when and for what reason you can leave your home in portugal the prime minister's put in place a new state of emergency and in italy a new curfew has come into play as european nations try and get rising infection numbers down there seem to be fighting a losing battle in lots of different places but the these obstructions are continuing to come in in the hope that in a couple of weeks they can try and suppress the 2nd wave of the virus. thanks joining us here on ati international and stay with us throughout the day.

so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy. let it be an arms race is off and spearing dramatic development only personally i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. shows seem wrong. just don't call. me. yet to shape our disdain becomes agitated and in detroit equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground.

oh backs ties are this is the kaiser report i think there is a winner yes we have a winner stacey we have a when are we have a winner oh well incoming incoming. my best just a civil war but don't call in the troops for us because you know at the civil war the noises you hear the incoming missiles and shrapnel and also it's a weaponry that's just the larp ing going on and rachel maddow and and anderson cooper's head you know they're magine in the civil war that was here that was happening oh yeah so the war just did the sequel when the sequels are as good as the original and of course the winner of the 10th is your own power

that's what the headline says max this is to your own powers moment no matter who wins and that was that trending story on twitter for a bad outs 03 days up until the last with your money again my money fell out so i you know i'm not a central banker i was trained by the old school i was trained by plucky and plucky is not very good at these this modern weaponry. right so while max is doing that i'm going to talk about the headline on barron's theron's had this the winner no matter what happens on election day count the fed chairman jerome powell as the stabilizing force for the economy and markets that's right as we know the day after the election the f o m c started meeting the f o m c meets the morning after election day continuing business as usual no matter

who occupies the white house and 2021 they said right before the election chair jerome powell is arguably a more important figure in washington for investors that's right. i'm a failed central banker i have to say they don't see people say droll piles talented and worthless but you see how difficult it is to blast the money gun it takes some skill to have a good idea of the culture coming again oh it'll go it's a war zone those are just remember those are just they imagine nations of m s n b c and c.n.n. that you hear in the background that civil war noise is just the imaginations so of course you know the point is always that the can tell you an heiress must win the can tell you there is win every time and that's why in fact gold and bitcoin where the big winners of this election and in fact on the eve of the united states election for president of the united states again it doesn't matter why you know

why they're saying jerome powells the winner why.