schools to stop the ballot count into allegations of election fraud and angry crowds into the streets that's how the 2020 us presidential election is going so far with joe biden closing in on the white house although he's not there yet also if you come away from the democrats on the republicans we discussed the lack of great alternative choices to the big the libertarians and the greens. i don't know if libertarians or other 3rd parties will ever consistently get high enough to win a national election we have here all the winner's single member districts winner

take all system. which encourages people to vote for the lesser evil. and england is re imposing restrictions following the example of france and germany in a bid to slow or wreck old cases but many in the citizens of fuming at the measures . in my opinion the measures come too late and i think they should have been different the money it's got if you have no savings or support it isn't enough. that just gone to a talk here in moscow you watching aussie international and of course all eyes is still on the us presidential election. now with the vote still being counted in key states the election has been marred by uncertainty and claims of electoral fraud that dozens of people around the country have taken their anger on to the streets demanding all votes are counted some of

the protests have turned violent with demonstrators facing off with police up to 60 people have reportedly been detained in new york.

we're seeing some scenes of violence there is america is gripped by an easy anticipation with ballot counting entering the final stages but with no clear winner yet although things are looking pretty good for democrat joe biden at the moment he has the backing of 264 electors while his rival go. to 114 the threshold for winning the race is 217 biden pretty close at the moment winning just one more state like nevada could mean victory for biden who is reportedly only 6 votes from his goal the state will continue counting in the morning. in order to turn the tide would have to take all uncounted battleground states like north carolina and pennsylvania. until.

the 2020 votes already been marred by claims of electoral fraud and errors the campaign has filed lawsuits in pennsylvania michigan and georgia demanding that absentee ballots which arrived after the election day deadline should not be included my colleague discussed the disagreements with r.t. correspondent. democratic candidate joe biden is very close to that threshold but the winner has not been announced so more than a day after polling stations closed the country still doesn't have a president elect what the nation has instead are protests some of them are angry and violent also lawsuits and also a feeling of a flawed system so protests have broken out in different corners of the nation the left side is chanting pretty much make sure that every vote counts while the pro

crum supporters are screaming stop the count what is this if not an indication of a lack of trust for the electoral system i can remind you that before the november votes donald trump called on his supporters to vote in person and warned that there could be potential fraud with the absentee and mailed in the votes and at this point the trump camp is saying that they have the ground to bring this to court in fact they've already filed several lawsuits they say they have proof of fraud including secret the dump ballots will be going to the u.s. supreme court we want to. voting just. we don't want them to find any ballots at 4 o'clock in the morning in them to the list. not a single republican has been able to look at any one of these mail ballots they

could be from mars as far as we're concerned or they could be from the democratic national committee joe biden could have voted 50 times as far as we know with 5000 times the ballots could be from camden. philadelphia unfortunately and say this about my own city has a reputation for voter fraud in georgia they filed a lawsuit and the aim of that is to make sure. all the absentee and mail the ballots that were handed in past the election day deadline are rejected several lawsuits were also followed in the states of pennsylvania and michigan and their claim from the republican is that the counting wasn't transparent enough and this explains why the program supporters are chanting stop the cal like here in detroit but. beyond. the law to oahu

to. if you listen to the speeches that we heard from both candidates pretty much their message was that they had already won the message was very close to that perhaps it was way too soon for donald trump to do that because the numbers aren't looking good for him at all however the late as speech by democratic candidate joe biden once again i'm going to say that he already sounded like he'd already become president he called on the nation to unite once this election is finalized and behind us it will be time for us to do what we've always done as americans to put the harsh rhetoric of the campaign behind us to lower the temperature to see each other again to listen to one another tweet to hear each other again respecting the care for one another. to

unite. if you come together as a nation so mr biden is calling on the nation to get together to unite which is in stark contrast to what we were hearing from the democrats ahead of the poll when they pretty much called all 'd donald trump supporters and it means some very nasty things were said however it doesn't look like the nation is uniting with all the protests some of them are violent with both sides but at this point especially donald trump sides being ready to take the cases to court and also like i said again it's not been decided yet it looks like some of the results were not to go into here until the next few days so watch this space. but we did discuss the situation with gas some of whom do you think that what we've seen

points to a wider failure of the us system. there's an acquiescence to that in fact biden has won the presidency i would say don't think that whatever the court challenges are going to change anything with the possible exception of wisconsin where you have some implausible numbers that are coming out and i've seen a lot of a lot of convention on line about these strange amount of turnout which seems like you know beyond belief level of turnout and so there seem to be a lot of mystically manufactured votes in wisconsin i'm not sure that actually change the outcome of the social media has been manipulated in this election banning accounts that are not quite to their liking pushing people to do this to do that i mean it's with been the most manipulated election certainly in my lifetime there's no question about that and we all know which way the manipulation is going so this is this is not a mystery right this is not we all know which way the social media giants were

leaning the way the major media was leaning so of course you know if biden ekes out this little bit this time in victory with a couple of states that swing swing states where there's some suspicious ballot you know biden comes it becomes president with with on almost you know with very little the gentleman say and certainly no you know serious consensus so there will be no mandate for biden and this will last for 4 years this is a tremendous failure of the american system i don't know what else to tell you usually after every election people like well we argued a lot we debated things a lot but now the system has worked this year. that is not happening there's nobody in this country who thinks the system actually worked it was either rigged or it's broken or didn't work or something so this in a strange way at least at the presidential level election really settled absolutely

nothing i do because i think that there's a lot to contest i mean this is a election unlike any other with all of the mail in ballots with all the early voting we knew it was you could be chaotic from the beginning unless it was a massive landslide direction everyone were sort of expect that this was going to drag out and maybe drag out until december that by law we have to have a winner by december 12th i believe it is and this river is probably where this is going to go no side is going to give up easily and i know we have all of these incredibly shady stories popping up 100000 ballots here for joe biden 120000 ballots in pennsylvania recently per job i'd offer joe biden what is this venezuelan voter fraud is a big concern we see this public now you know you know a little anomalies popping up here and there not statistical errors but we're seeing instances where people. got a mail in ballot and then they decide to vote in person so how we should ensure that they didn't vote twice all those ballots are canceled out we are seeing instances rigged or not being allowed to look at signatures on voter rolls not be able to verify voters that there are some districts that are being very close about

how they're recounting the ballots why would you do that why would you want anything but transparency but yet where did this come from and i wouldn't put anything past the left of the democratic party look at the fraud that they have perpetuated on this nation last 4 years they still haven't conceded the 26 election no one but they're going to concede this one so it's well worth looking into i would not put it past the democrat party to pull something like this. map pennsylvania is still counting votes which could prove crucial to the act come off the election one that in 2016 reversing a long run the democrat wins the chavez looks now the deep divisions within the state. pennsylvania with nearly 13000000 residents is arguably the single most important stage of the 2020 election but in many ways the keystone state mirrors the country well its rust belt is dotted with the shuttered factories and rundown chimneys it's also a place of affluent liberal suburbs and conservative countryside reflecting

a divided america i mean the devices in this sense going on in this country right now it's ridiculous and i don't care what anybody says that it is a race. and very lucky that somebody like donald trump is. my president and i can vote for him again while the northeast and the southwest corners of pennsylvania residents come from a long line of blue collar workers like old coal mines and steel industries the state's eastern and western borders hold the biggest population centers and a lot of industry and heartland in between and although pennsylvania is considered a blue wall state as it has a history of voting democratic that changed in 2016 when donald trump won the state over democratic contender hillary clinton by point 7 percent congratulations mr president but now 4 years later controversial pipeline projects have helped make fracking a political flashpoint in the debate over energy the climate crisis and the influence

of big business these 2 parties are radically different and that what i think is each party is controlled much more by what would be the strong i guess that's extreme way you're right. both candidates focusing on pennsylvania president trump holding several rallies there trying to woo the region with promises of coal and steel jobs while insisting that joe biden what a limb in a frock it hard for barges or virtue or for your job for our cue to deliver economic ruin. your families but you've got to be pretty clear biden who grew up in pennsylvania says he isn't calling for the immediate end to the oil industry but is pushing for. ending federal subsidies for fossil fuel companies and ending new permits on public land for fracking president trapes right of what will happen to the president he knows that people are pressuring gets out there saying if you remember she doesn't stand a chance as pennsylvania is the 2nd largest producer of natural gas in the united

states and the 3rd largest net supplier of energy the american petroleum institute estimates its natural gas industry contributes nearly 35000000000 dollars to the state and combined with its oil industry it supports about $340000.00 local jobs were afraid that if they buy a ticket wins that the gas and oil thing is going to be shut down in spite of what they say what in both $22016.00 candidates lost despite winning the popular vote that is done to the country's electoral college system.

but my colleagues ask a tired to speak with representatives from america's the parties the libertarians and the greens and whether the current party domination gives americans any real alternatives. the one percent that libertarians get does play a significant role i don't know if libertarians or other 3rd parties are or will ever consistently get high enough to win a national election maybe not win in elections but impacting policy debates and reaching out to voters is what we do how it's want to pick up on something that was just said we he said you know we're talking about a single percent support for thought party town today that's right it's kind of spread quite even $4849.00 for the republicans and democrats so it's almost sad to say that the republicans or democrats at this point represent the will of the majority of americans do you think that as you know you disagree with that

absolutely when you look at public opinion polls majority of americans want a green new deal which is what the green party is for to do with the climate crisis get the economy going again majority of americans want medicare for all in both the democrats and republicans oppose those houses the problem is that our electoral system. we have we're only winner single member districts when you take all system which encourages people to vote for the lesser evil the most people are voting against the other major party rather than for their own party. so i think if we can change the electoral system in place the electoral college with a national popular vote using right choice voting for presidential elections i think the greens will move way up and in the boat we get currently the state in the us is kind of how how it harkens mentioned it's people for trump and people who hate trump that's what they're voting about and they're there strategically

choosing one of the major parties it's not that they necessarily agree with the platforms of those parties and was that there is a lot of wide hods of criticism saying for a party actually can create problems more problems and build and just wason the device and because that essentially stealing quote you know votes from parties that would actually when for example the republicans or the democrats in this particular case why it is so close and those states that were saying you know sometimes even less than a percentage point how would you react to people who say that if i had to choose we want to any one of the major parties i would flip a coin because i equally dislike both of them. the difference between the republicans and democrats is mostly about personality and style when it comes to the substance of the issues they're both for the deficit spending they're both for

spending and taxing too much they're both for continuing the wars and those are things that libertarians oppose and even grains oppose some of that stuff as well so i actually like it when the republicans and democrats get mad at libertarians because it causes them to focus on us and it gives us an opportunity to say hey here's why you guys are wrong and here's why we won't vote for you this is what we stand for what we need real political parties that actually have members i mean what we have now are 2 major parties you tell the state which party you're in in order to vote in their primaries there's no local organization. no local chapter of the party no you don't agree to a set of principles and they do sort of join you just tell the state which party you are so the electorate is admires and disconnected from the political process. like i would let's recap and all my polling is looking at the moment things are looking pretty good for the democrat joe biden he has the backing of 264 electors

just 6 short of the magic 270 that is needed for victory donald trump meanwhile has 214 so where does this leave us while winning just one more state like nevada could mean victory for biden the state will continue counting in the morning while trying in order to turn the tide would have to take or uncounted battleground states some like north carolina and pennsylvania not announce their results until a bit later to. now in other news today england and greece are returning to lockdowns following a record surge in code cases within some instances of 43 percent rise in victims

ingles england is re imposing restrictions following the examples of france and germany in order to slow down the spread of the virus france has more than 40000 new cases a day and italy is introducing curfews from 10 pm in germany new infections grew by more than 2000 $700.00 over the last 24 hours russia meanwhile registered more than $19000.00 new cases on wednesday an anti vaccine of russian origin is in the final stages of trials now there is growing public anger restrictions across the continent or europe correspondent peter all of explains. we're 4 days into what's being called lockdown light here in germany younger merkel put this in place with the idea being to keep schools kindergartens as much of the economy open as possible at the expense of social life essentially bars restaurants theaters

cinemas gyms all of these closed down in order to keep open schools and kindergartens and as much business that doesn't involve direct contact as possible although those businesses that are open are under some restrictions so far though it's a fairly mixed bag when it comes to opinion on these measures here in berlin. in my opinion the measures come too late and i think they should have been different shutting down businesses that 10 pm i find absurd it looks like the virus only comes out at night during the day you can do whatever you want but then at night you have to close because the virus comes. partly i find in justified partly i'm sad about the restaurants but overall i find the lowdown necessary for the money and. if you have no savings or support it isn't enough in berlin as a freelance musician suddenly everything is gone there isn't enough help at all the numbers don't paint a pretty picture when it comes to infections in germany on wednesday germany

recorded in 1900990 new cases of covert 90 now that's gone beyond what was initially put forward by angela merkel as a doomsday scenario for the health care system of 19200 cases it's the 6th straight day germany's record of over 15000 cases the plan from angela merkel and her government is to get infections down by 75 percent with this new lock down lights for the next month or for the month of november with the hope being that if we suffer through november then we might get a little bit of a reprieve in terms of the restrictions anyway over the christmas period he said so i don't think that's an op the. decision depends on what we can achieve in november so if we have very sensible now then we will be able to allow ourselves more freedom for christmas but i don't think that there will be lavish new year parties we have to wait and see but it will be a christmas on the chronic conditions but it should not be

a lonely christmas over the western border into france and there's of a very bleak picture being painted by statistics put forward by french health minister. he says that one person in paris every 30 seconds this week of being contracting covert 191 person every 15 minutes requiring medical attention there's no chance of a christmas break in what he's saying he says that people are going to have to make plans around covert 19 because the virus isn't going to make plans around them we've also you're seeing protests in france as well high school kids out on the streets this week protesting against what they see as a lack of social distancing or article it anti coronavirus measures taken in schools police used tear gas against some in paris schools in france went back on monday.

in the united kingdom and england has entered a month long lockdown but on wednesday evening just before that came into play you wouldn't think that anything was about to happen in places like old compton street in london where revelers packed in for a last pint nearly a mask nor any kind of social distancing in evidence there over in sweden a couldn't tree that had been held up as an example of how to limit corona infections without making measures law well it seems that they're going to have to make some of those measures law that's according to stephan 11 the prime minister of sweden who says the city. may be needed in order to keep numbers down in that country in greece this strict new measures come into place in thessaloniki where no non-essential flights will be allowed in or out there's also limits on when and for what reason you can leave your home in portugal the prime minister's put in place

a new state of emergency and in italy a new curfew has come into play as european nations try and get rising infection numbers down there seem to be fighting a losing battle in lots of different places but the these obstructions are continuing to come in in the hope that in a couple of weeks they can try and suppress this 2nd wave the virus. page or all of the reports in there so that brings you up to date so far today here in r.t. we're back again though with the latest on the u.s. election in about half an. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy

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