because of the people that i run into that when you look at the statistics it's clearly significant and a threat and the problem now is that nobody wants to be locked down nobody wants to go to the process as we went through in april and may and that may be required and the other aspect that's a problem is that it's now affecting those communities that it did not attack before kobe used to be an urban a city virus now it's affecting all those communities that never touched in small towns in rural communities and by the way larry when i find most impactful from a political standpoint is that the very people who downtime said don't vote by mail don't trust it vote in person those are the people who are most likely to be denied the right to vote or the chance to go because of covert spreading and it. just adds an extra layer of chaos to an already chaotic situation

at least 5 of my vinces dade including his ease of self have tested positive when we were in the war is an old is a big issue. because everyone's been testing positive because we've lost a lot of people because it's now become a fact of life that every day it's the best way i can equate it and i was barely alive forward but it's what happened in vietnam when every night walter cronkite would lead would read the number of people who were killed or wounded and they became just numbers we heard it and saw it every day and it stopped having impact on us i think the same thing is happening right now or kobe but i take it seriously because the numbers are just so significant if trump loses we assume is real cause of covert yes much as what what you and i talked about before we went on the air

much as herbert hoover was the great depression was the last because of that event we're going to say the same thing and in fact i'd say to you i'm prepared to say now having watched the 2 debates and where we are as a country that donald trump actually would have probably won reelection if kobe did not happen because it affected not just the virus not just health care but the economy and jobs and government spending and taxes and the debt and i think that it also led to one of the reasons why we had such significant social unrest earlier this year is that people were frustrated and they were angry being held up being locked up and that was part of a reaction to what was happening to them none of this would have happened if kobe to not happened and so i understand why down trent why dollar trump it hates the chinese government so much because they'd been just a little bit more honest and a little bit more forthcoming maybe looking at 4 more years. of coming never got it

wrong that around this. i don't think he ever believed that i think in the end he thought that was a mess that he was told by the chinese government that it wasn't a big deal that he was informed that it was all in their control and then when he realised that that's just not true it was too late he was already mired in what was happening and this is not an easy thing for a country like ours to deal with if your a totalitarian or authoritarian government you can lock people up in their homes easily it's what you do every day politically or economically this country was experiencing the strongest economy in 50 years this country was experiencing real job growth and wage growth and then when all that went to help people were really pissed off about it and they frankly they didn't want to stay at home they wanted to work they wanted to enjoy their newfound economic prosperity and trump wanted

them to do it but in the end and i'll give you one polling statistic to back this up we asked a question which is a higher priority to you. the your health and safety or your economic safety and the public chose health by 2 to one over economics and i don't think trump is expecting that choice. around people around him are going to miss. knowing they have the wrong people around them i think dr fox has done an outstanding job i think his staff has done an outstanding job how could he miss is that the chinese were not honest or forthcoming they simply told the world that everything was fine that there were no problems and the chinese they went and then they travel during the chinese new year they went to all these countries as though everything was ok and they brought the virus with them it's funny or ironic that they can go to china. but they went across the globe and right now i'm getting

reports that the chinese economy is back on track that their growth rate is now exceeding 5 percent at the same time that we are still in deep trouble not that they meant to do this not that that this was premeditated i do not say that at all but china has economically benefit from benefited from this state and been responsible for the deaths of over a 1000000 people and when asked in wonder whether they'll be any response from those countries who face this look we're all in this together whether it's climate change or coated or any of these issues that are global in scope we're all in this together and it may surprise you to hear it from me but i really do accept that we've become an interconnected world and we just need to be honest with each other empathetic with each other so sympathetic with each other and we have failed in that nature we failed on the global scale and we failed on a local scale that's not the kind of guy trump is. your connector of

was not far sighted but it but he's also a very strong individual and willing to speak to to power trump is not afraid of the new york times is not afraid of the leaders of china and there is an advantage in having a president that isn't afraid and that's willing to hold people accountable the problem is that that's not what we're looking for right now the american merican people want to hug not a not a verbal barb they want someone who feels them not just someone who who intellectually understands what's going on in context and houses of the polling the view him as good is a failed way you go in how you see things. well my mask is actually about 10 feet away from me on my dining room table fortunately i'm not polling any one of my home so that that helps i have not done any in face focus groups i have gone out to do

want to one interviews and 3 on one interviews in fact i was just on the road this weekend i've been on the road now almost straight for the last 2 months and unlike you i went through a health scare for a while and i have to be careful that said i need to keep listening and learning from the public and as understanding where they stand is really essential and it's never been more sense of the now to try to be able to explain both the hopes that people have hopes and dreams and to be able to explain their fear and anxiety and larry let me just answer one more question that you didn't ask i wanted to know what that phrase was and the word was to best describe the american election so we asked people we gave them a number of different choices the number one word is exhaustion people are just

exhausted by what we have been through for the last year and the number one phrase that they said that's represented their point of view about the election overall i am so tired of being so tired and i get it i feel the same way. we come back we'll good franklin says opinion on what will happen on november 3rd more with the great frank wants. to a. l. look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. i robot must obey the orders given by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the 1st law show your identification for should be very careful about artificial intelligence and the point on v.s.e. is to create trusts everyone of them shia. things like taking on

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something in america something overseas in the cayman islands and it will pull these banks are complicit in the tough talk or say we just have to call and say hey i'm ready to do some serious money laundering ok let's see how we did well we've got a nice watch for max and for stacy oh beautiful jewelry how about. luxury automobile again from that you know what money laundering is highly illegal here for a watch guys record. please the us has a history of complicated and heated presidential elections what's different this time is that the biggest political events of the last 4 years is happening amid the coronavirus been damaged and precedents and level of civil unrest sparked by the death of george floyd and the lives of the radical groups on both sides of the

political spectrum. right there with breaking the city ordinance. say. these groups attract barely a week members who have taken to the streets making pro tasks look like full scale you know what used to be here was only a taste of what's about to happen this demonstrates this are sometimes heavily armed and they are not afraid of violence or law enforcement. if you will of war let it begin with us. or go in to meet those groups and their leaders to find out how far they're ready to go to fight for what they believe just good for this country. israel media a reflection of reality. in a world transformed. what will make you feel safe from.

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a final production and will delve into it was going to have among them the. i unless unless the polls are really off and unless something significant happens in the last 7 days because so many millions of people 45000000 people have voted already and we're going to get over 50000000 within the next 23 days we never had went by the way we could have more people voting by mail and voting early and actually voting at the polling place on election day so so much of this is already baked and it's already determined i don't see how donald trump catches joe by i think that by wince i don't think it's a blowout i don't think it's a landslide and by the way i don't think it's a mandate either and here's the reason why we asked people voting for biden and voting for trump is their vote more for their candidate or against the other candidate in downtimes case 80 percent of dollar terms voters are going for him and

only 19 percent of voting against by and joe biden's case 54 percent abides voters are actually voting against our trump and only 46 percent are voting for joe biden . that's significant that tells me that this election is a referendum on down trump rather than a choice between trump and buy so at this at this stage i see biden is waiting but not an endorsement of him simply a decision that they want to go in a different direction on the national scale big 0 or not huge turnout a bigger turnout than anything we've had in more than 50 years everybody's voting in fact some people have been twice i'm going to chicago election day because i have my grandfather's coming back to vote he's been dead for 40 years but they tell me he's going to vote on election day in chicago. what we're

above this whole campaign as you viewed it troubled you the most. days when you said i can't get a handle on this i found the industry were so let me off you the place that i got a handle on i 5 and i finally understood what was happening based on my focus groups over the presidential debates those undecided voters. are undecided not because they disagree with the 2 candidates on policy is because for downtimes case they think is a ministrations been fine they prove of his tax policy they prove of what he's done but they don't like him they don't like his approach they don't like his language and don't like how he deals with people they love joe biden they really find him to be a decent and a kind in the vigil and empathetic but he won't tell them where he stands on issues that matter to them so they refuse to back him because they think that he's hiding

something therefore they have to decide which is more important to them dollar terms persona or joe biden's policies and that's why they're undecided they can't figure that out yet that's been the greatest conundrum what's bothered me the most was that 1st debate and candidly i was in the hall and if i had not been given a pass to attend i would have stood up i actually thought of standing up and saying everyone shut the hell up answer the questions and stop being rude to each other it was such an embarrassment so frustrating but that's how they behaved in the american people were just as angry as i was president from hasn't mentioned regaling way nor has he mention malan vallas lately what do you make of that he can't because he's republicans to vote by mail and in it's republicans to participate in every possible way and if you discourage people from voting early then what happens if cove it really strikes in the next 7 days larry's been going

up every single day it's going to become more and more difficult for people in certain communities to go out and participate poll workers are going to want to participate and you can't shut it down at the last minute i don't know the impact that it's going to have it's going to be significant bringing down a very really diverse list will 'd do well i think he's going to see ever so slightly better among hispanics and latinos. particularly male hispanics and latinos i think his vote total in 2020 is going to be above what it was in 2016 converse lee he's doing worse among women and in fact the general gap in this election cycle is going to be higher than it has ever been that basically most men are voting for trump most women are voting for biden and i'm surprised that the divorce rate is not higher right now because of it.

or would could change the whole picture. terrorist attack in the last 7 days i don't believe the scandal will change because trump has been trying so hard to show that biden is corrupt and i don't think that is landing with any boaters. the ads on change at the rallies won't change it the speeches won't change it it's going to have to be some major advance that would frighten me because it would have to be so significant at this point again if the polling is correct but if the polling is wrong then my profession is not just going to have egg on its face it's going to have a pioneer face is going to look like soupy sales back in the 1960 s. that's a reference for you there or as for do the polling a surprise. that the public is very willing to explain where they stand i've had no trouble pulling out people's opinions and fact

that's usually been the problem in in my work because i do focus groups as well as quantitative polling that people are forthcoming that they don't explain how they think and how they feel that they are really closed not in a selection everybody wants to be heard my problem areas i'm not convinced that everybody wants to listen and learn. and was the best of times it was the worst of times court order encourages you about this. well by the way you mention best of times worst of times i love that book i would say you that donald trump's campaign is almost like. frank sinatra i'd be playing new york new york at all my rallies and i'd be playing my way at all my rallies so i get that. it was a very good years another one. i think what surprises me is that the public even

with a health scare is willing to come up come out and show up for down trump even though he's down in most down in every poll and even though most pundits don't think he's going to win that they're willing to be heard they're willing to be seen and even to put their own health on the on the line to let their support and their voices be heard by by people like us i'm surprised at the intensity of these rallies and how he can still really wepa crowd. rang bells in the face of his seem stupid to you why would you go to a rally ok and then you're going to say that i'm stupid because i want to see this i want to know what's going on i want to talk to people i will stand away from them i will have a mask on i went to the peace agreement between israel and because

i knew how stuart was it not been done in 27 years i went to trump's convention speech because i was invited i wanted to see these events i was careful careful about what i touched i was careful about where i went i was careful about where i stood. but that hasn't changed the day that i stop really trying to understand america's the day that i've given up and while i am not optimistic about our future i haven't given up yet i'm still trying i'm still learning and so trying to impart a sense of unity and community and frankly. reconciliation we all have a mantra and that mind the idea that you and i don't agree on politics i know we don't but it's a joy to talk to you even if it's just to the computer you and i may not agree on policy but i want to know what our you think what you think i want to know your

experiences i want to know everything about you i believe that under reconciliation will will again be curious about each other charities to know why things work the way that they do curious to know why we had successes and why we failed that hasn't changed and i think that uniquely american and that. no matter what happens with donald trump and joe biden that will still be a part of the american psyche. use of the job i mean will win can you break it down for me yes i lose my will i think pennsylvania the state that i'm looking at the bayou has advantage right now or pennsylvania michigan wisconsin and all 5 of those states went asar all 3 of those states with their 5th roughly 50 electoral votes went for. went for donald trump i think that by winning those 3 states that gives biden the edge i do believe the florida ends up in trump's camp

ohio which which most of the polling shows is to cause a cause i think that ends up with donald trump i think iowa and up or down trump. and so it's going to be a relatively relatively close election but it's very hard to add those extra states to get those extra electoral votes to put for me to see trump actually beating by that point but who knows i could be surprised i've been surprised before living women will lead job president who knows that it's yes and specifically younger women have been voting democrat for many many years there in under then it got to be women who are under the age of 40 where i think biden is going to do better than hillary clinton or women between the ages of 40554054 that those women had been republican and now exactly marry women with kids and now that vote has shifted

towards biden and one of the reasons why is the schools we open in the schools and you're i've not talked about this but i think it's really really important the idea that trump said go back to school that all the kids go back to school and these moms were afraid to send their kids back to school because they were afraid they could get sick or they were afraid of the virus that they would bring home with them and that down in that period of cold it when they were making decisions and an education that the american people thought this is not the right approach to education that we need to be sick and need to react safely sensibly my sponsor glee and those women left out trump at that point and i think that that's going to be the deciding factor in the selection you wearing election night you get excited. i will be in washington d.c. election why i hope to spend it with friends you're right to ask me that question because for me election night is the most election night is christmas and new

year's oh my god they all welled up and one. and where i spend it definitely matters i've been offered the chance to be an analyst on a major national network i have not decided yet if i would take it because i enjoy being with real people and and i'll lose friends what people realize is that individuals like me know all the senators they know all these congressman and some of my friends will be defeated on election night and i want to be there for them i want to be there as a shoulder for them to support them and tell them that i'm grateful for their service so we'll see find you are an important contributor to the american scene for lois and so on and knowing you now larry larry please hear me is an otter knowing you your national treasure i'm glad that you are still doing this and you have so many interviews and so many years to go you teach us what we don't know on behalf of america thank you for all that you do god bless frank

luntz we thank him for time today and we thank you for joining us on this edition of politicking hey remember you can join the conversation conversation on our facebook page and don't forget to use the politicking kings things hash tag that's all of this edition of problems taking the be. the best. if you can save someone if you have a small and direct means saved on the painting that you can then save your thousands of other lives well my response is that the way we should think about that is just is that just as there's a child in a store experiment right there in front of you in this burning building you can say well also just thousands of children around the world take millions of children

around the world you could potentially state it way it's lightweight in this situation in the being i'm facing a burning building just all the time. some control for a middle. of the night most of our very hardworking people who want to get ahead that either have some some health issues or have some of the stricken bad luck a full time job won't always pay for a place to live and missing just a month's rent can get you a victim to gunpoint if anything bad happens to any thing that just throws your budget off slightly. you better catch up real quick or you're going to have a judgment of possession against you and get addicted anyone that's homeless is history like garbage people look at you like a monster or someone bad or you chose to be there most of the time it's not the case see how it is to be in the world's richest country.

seemed wrong. to me you didn't get to stamp out these days to come to africa and engage with equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground.

in. the race for the white house something tween joe biden and donald trump in battleground states with results are yet to be called 3 days off to be election. if you count the legal votes right easily when the recount is truly shiny version ought to be declared the winner of the candidates clashed over early ballots results with some republicans even smoking a role in the count. we also popular guests well conclusions they take from this election the votes count disputes the instant. sort of so if they want to stop the tell the other so if you want to continue tell me it's a joke every night after night after night.