letisha ballasts that's that's right university and senior fellow at the hoover institution president it's great to talk to you thank you very much for taking time to talk to us if you're. now i know you've been predicting or perhaps personally a wishing for a joe biden when and perhaps it's a bit here early still cereal on according to champagne but have you at least put the bottle into the fridge. i think it looks pretty good for surviving. is the as many paths to 270 electoral votes and the president really only has one yes whenever they got slapped and that seems a bit unlikely given that he's behind in arizona and and nobody in their votes left and no bother to be counted are frankly from. our status in reno which are big democratic areas and then survey has gotten quite close and most of the votes out in pennsylvania are senate absentee which are generally then about 7520

in better and by and georgia's not down to $16000.00 votes with many votes in fulton county and the atlanta area to be counted. so it looks pretty good for the democrats and their republican cement bit upset the trump campaign is calling for some recounts and i know many democrats aquinas quite offended by. these calls goodson they insist that count out black things and hope that all the disagreements they within billygoat feel isn't that a safer way to proceed the rather than i mean i even know there are some worrisome predictions going into this elections with you know the stores boarding up their windows and you know weapon sales going through there oh so it isn't that it's you go the recount way rather than anything else yeah the well there's so yes

well actually it was amazingly you know projections of violence that we did not happen. there's 2 kinds of recounts that your listeners should know 1st kind of 1st recount when it's mandated by law so it's a wisconsin burzum bill the election binding will inspire less than one percent then there's an automatic recount in the state pays for yes. there is no true for an automatic recount you get or crestor recount but if you request a recount and you lose then you pay for the recount which is you know use of dollars you know they have no money to do that but in general in the last i think the study unfamiliar of the last 10 or 12 recounts. the total 0 change was average $380.00 so vote recounts never really changed.

yet but on the other hand this is also a pretty unusual election. especially considering they got an empire of mail in votes i mean over a 100000000 people voted early isn't that actually i mean putting trump aside isn't that actually a pretty healthy prudent thing when you have such a major procedural change just to go back and revisit what have or not has and i'm not disagreeing with you that certainly it's better to recount them than to go out in the streets and protest i was just pointing out there's 2 kinds and generally or you can go back and do them. there overwhelming evidence is they don't really change anything. because they're out by machines and ballots are their own and so it's very hard and electoral process they have both republicans and democrats there when they feed them in an hour or so you switched which is a good thing meaning when you do recount it doesn't change things very often going

to shoot. now i come from a country of a low level of social trust and it's a pretty rich history of electoral manipulation saw forgive me in my skepticism but i wouldn't while want that be may have votes you take on such proportions here in russia but given that the united states considers itself a translator of democratic practices for the rest of the well what do you actually like other countries to follow suit and to use the mail in both inside huge numbers i mean the name concerns that i have about privacy and integrity of the vote now my job to. how anybody else votes i think the mail system idea in the united states where turnout is 5565 percent the idea was if you said. not mail balance and made it easier on people that you and increased turnout that turned out not to be sometimes true but it does what you

want you do as in california washington and oregon and send everybody your mailbox you can go back on it because it makes voting so much easier now we get it there was a study by a colleague of mine at stanford n.d. hall that looked at 2 elections in the state of washington which is all mail in and because a new sandy technologies you can do this 40000000 ballots mailed in they found maybe 14 that could end dead people and they couldn't even be sure about those because of same names etc but only 40 so i think. they think probably mail in voting in the united states does not really dramatically affect anything i do think in the long run that as computer technology and face recognition thumbprint we will go to more electronic forms of. work we're not there

yet because they're too easy to act well i don't hear i disagree with that but this is what i get from american media that the mail in vote seems to have favorite joe biden for the time being at least who has already amassed 70 suddenly go into that because democrats by far feared coronavirus and were much more likely to wear face masks etc so if there is a beginning going on and you got a male ballot and you don't want to go outside and be around other people you mail it into the republican strategy why this is to in fact have their people go to the polls on election day then a day end of the day actually to say election over 39 the vote would look is over republican because you can count that vote for hastert and the way mail votes are counted in the united states differs dramatically say florida could start. processing in crimea on october 14th north carolina can start processing them

earlier pennsylvania because they are even starting process until election day so it was part of the republican strategy to not only on election night as it turns out to him they did not have a lead so that didn't work and now you're getting a little drift which has been true over the past 4 elections i.e. as the mail ballots come in they're more democrat because more democrats vote from home well joe biden is clearly leading so far but i think we can also see that trump's base has increased he has a stronger showing that he had that back in 2016 and why the that gets you 2nd athlete minorities hispanics i heard that. the black well it is higher for him than it wasn't just $1016.00 even the jewish vote is higher how would you explain that well i think it is 1st of all it's too early or too early to know because when people are going on are going to exit polls that work out that are

out on the internet now in either of those polls better after because as you might expect i mean not coronavirus as you walk in out of the voting booth you might not want to stop and ask somebody for questions well he'll wait for a couple of hours in line it's just to get your you know anything that you find and answering a few questions i've got exit polls. for example in 2000 when florida was the clarity on the basis of the exit polls 1st or bush denver go or and what happened was they there were 2 way too many women stop to talk and too many men want by so don't give incomplete you can't just take whoever it is you have to have a sample and if you take too many of women are joining and so in terms of the air. i suppose i'm coronavirus we have no previous record on there and so those exit

polls are under question. under there under question like the polls work well it embodies and i think it will have to wait and see but i am very interested in the issue of race here because going into this election the democrats i guess that main charge against donald trump was that either he is racist or he's lying abetting racist even though the democrats themselves acting in their electoral politics will make any secret of. claiming 2nd athlete groups or certain racial groups as their own in fact that racial or ethnic sensibilities have been instrumental ised and exploited and american politics for quite some time by both parties what does racism even mean in what it day amharic especially when it comes to politics well clear i mean you said well 1st of all you said trump is basically quite a bit better i mean there are more votes turned out but there's going to going to

be crowded interest he's going to 16 to 20 tony jump one and ronnie 60 who looks very much like he's not going to win so so whatever the turnout was he may have got more turnout but he is losing this time so 2820 is a replay of 2016 is unfolding this time but it is still past us nicely and perfect benylin people voted for him so that conference and go through but it latches are about winning or losing and so he not its name from iran and women that's a great thing but if i want to lose and you want to call out a victory right but from a politician's 1st are you running you lose i do trust people are under happier now than they were 26 feet i'm not did i know his vote is there but if he lost this time that's different and the same thing is in regard to race i don't think we know yet but last. overwhelmingly voted for democrats it may have been 2 or 3

points higher among black males for strong and it had been young and 2016 but we don't know for sure because there's a lot of we haven't counted all of boccia and the 2nd thing in regard to the hispanic vote it does learn why they like tito hispanic vote are issues it does look like it is more pro trump good jewish vote may may have i don't know where you're getting those numbers that's an exit poll and the number of jewish voters is as 34 percent the united states it's hard to pull down polls yours are so accurately unless you're overseas i think there are some indications and i guess we have i'll have to kind friend then later that. some known wides don't consider donald trump a racist in fact you know i once used to be a student in the united states i started in kansas which overwhelmingly voted for trump i think with a 15 percent margin and you know i talked to a lot of my friends there are

a lot of dissent hardworking people who had to hide that political preferences specifically because of that fears of being outed as racist as in a folks and i know for a fact that they are not you know because i'm a foreigner myself and i had interactions with anything that's going to change in the next 4 years here john we are taught to use a state for years and years john the republicans are republicans he changes are a fruit not democrats where there's about 30 democrats. and i don't doubt our belief well i think there are many many studies supporting my claim that many people who voted for some or other reason for don't trump sell the. secret if a ballot that in fact i mean there is a great effort on the part of polling agencies to gather those sokol shy voters out specifically because they are stigmatised. problem place we asked

you know there's state occasions it goes both ways that you go we asked the following procedure we said where your neighbors be surprised by how you're going to vote. and we get find some john 11 percent of trump voters said their neighbors would be surprised when we found 10 percent of biden voters say their neighbors would be surprised and guess what it was related to you lived in a rural area and you were abiding boater your neighbor would be surprised if you live in an urban area and you are trying your neighbors at least. so i doubt it cuts both ways well professor brady we have to take a short break right now but they will be back in just a few moments as they chant. join

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welcome back to worlds apart david brady a professor of political science and literature values at stanford university and senior fellow at the hoover institution professor brady just before the break ever asking your questions about racism and how it's been instrumental lives and politics and then the reason why focus on that so much is because i think that it's become a convenient way for some american politicians especially you know where globalist leaning joe boyd an important conversation about the economy and be the purpose of the state because in most countries around the world putting your country 1st is not a controversial proposition that's in fact considered to be demain purpose to all of the government do you think trump would have ever reasoned just such prominence if

a parole national and you globalist sentiments were given fair in presentation in denmark and politics during the previous election cycles. you know it's it's way beyond my pay grade i don't there's no evidence other than anecdotal evidence that you might cite here and there i know of no studies. that went either corroborate that or disprove it if a child leaves the white house come 2821 do you think he strand of politics not in style but in substance representing the concerns all 5 rowel or suburban voters do you think that kind of politics that's kind of politics will have to remain what do you think will represent it ok now or not it's a great question so and i think it's probably the most important question to ask about the election race there is a problem with race the united states obviously but it is true those are set of

voters in the midwest and other places who have due to trade international trade and globalization have lost their jobs and they have moved from the democratic party because they feel the democratic party abandoned many of them voted for obama trice because he said he was going to change things and then when they didn't change they moved to and so that's that's like my hometown my own counsel one of those gangs the owner of town that you know how a lot of industrial work and father good job in a factory and support his family and those jobs are gone so that is a problem and i agree with you sorry if i misunderstood your question i agree with you that donald trump donald trump much of downtime support comes from that white males where high school or less education so if he'd leave the white house down what happens to the republican party which has now changed but i think that

republicans will try. they will some republicans tom cotton of arkansas be some people try to come up and take translates i think that will be exceedingly difficult because trump is sui generous that way and he struck me very it's very hard to duplicate i am so there's going to be that element in american politics floating around there and if the democrats get in and push too hard to politics of the left and neglect those people the ones you were just talking about and don't deal with them then that's a very bad thing you have the democrats can't talk about those people as clinton did the book the corals or as barack obama did now why they believe in guns and god they can't be treated that way otherwise there are a session of the vote is going to be very upset unhappy and floating around

election election so i think what happens to them is absolutely crucial and there will be a fight among republicans 1st place in the melee or democrats to see who can pick them up and. drop trump but was uniquely able to do that he did 8 years ago described as unique but i want a few that big of a genius because you know as i was preparing for this conversation i came across every cent gallup hall which essentially suggested that while the majority of respondents find joe biden more appealing on that personal level they're far more in tune with trump or when it comes to economic policy and i have an impression that the democrats all the way through are sort of puzzling why people of voting for trump given his moral transgressions they put so much emphasis on his moral. character rather than understanding that you know they damn merican

electorate is behaving as if all. place has been behaving that is voting on the economy and that's actually the clinton's message it's all about the economy stupid hasn't done a lot. crack that i think i think you're right not analysis when we look at the we ran sophisticated algorithms and evidence on this state we found out what we see on the coronavirus did hurt from obviously but over time people's concerns grew about the economy and the economy and trump was seen as better for the economy and biden was and that it did in fact make the election closer and not the blue wave that was predicted and i think in large part it was it was because of the economy and by the way the same gallup poll found that despite call it 19 and all the losses associated with it the

majority of respondents believe that they are now so better off than 4 years ago this is pretty amazing given that you know the poll that was taken after the it locked up you know we we hired as i was astounded by we did economist hugo coal which i have a deal where. we found the same thing it was i found a surge that there was 4150 percent said they're better off now than they were 4 years ago so same same basic point. i haven't had time to go back and look at that it was the case that it was more republicans that said that but i haven't i haven't been able to go back and look but my guess is if i express hard on that. you know it will be those former democrats or trump republicans in midwestern states would be my guess and that's something we're going to look at. the since. march in the

last 2 days were several letters so i think you're probably i think you're right on that the economy of the and the economy is an issue came up and drove virus struck down and that's also why the election so much closer now joe biden position himself as the back to normality kind of candidate but when you look at his social and economic problems program he's quite bold if not to say radical but i think by the americans and it's not by the standards of let's say euro but what he proposes is pretty. reasonable for many americans and i mean closing oil and gas industry by 1035 or a college education for low income kids extending the affordable care act do you think he can deliver on all those points if you're really back to the same all kind of candidate or is he actually proposing something that america has never seen

before. no other good question i can't deliver on that and the reason he can't one of the reasons he is so appealing one had a democratic senate and the market was quite worried because he pushed policies too far left and and my view is if they push those things too far out of our tree jewish and medicare for all. then what would have happened is 2022 would have been like 2010 where obama lost 67 seats in the house 2022 would have been worse for the democrats but with a republican senate is not going to be able to do those things so i think that. maybe they can get some stuff going on the understructure middle have to be a deal there will be some sort of a stimulus package but it will be. lower than what it i don't think the even if the democrats sent out a majority in the senate that they would have come in the money who thinks that because it's going to slam the election we are problems are over that that's simply

not true the problems were there before present truth they're not going away you have grounds for the economy in a war room going to have huge debt to pay for that and you're going to do 3rd we still have a problem in the united states with racism we have too many young african-american and hispanic men in jail for drug possessions etc so those problems are there or trump and simply electing a democrat is not does not stop them. now i heard you saying you want to feel lectures that the current level. of it in the united states has structural reasons and despite all the calls for unity it's extremely difficult to bring people together because you know to bring them together they have to at least agree on one thing and it's amazing for me to observe from russia now that the united them erica is no longer agree on their past that america has

a lot of opportunities that treats everybody fairly i mean president obama was delivering all those speeches in 2013 about how everybody has an equal shot i think nowadays he won't be able to be to rate his own speeches and in fact the only person who can subscribe to that vision of america is trump and he supporters that's what i find extremely ironic but given that there is no agreement on the past on the path forward and a bible on what america stands for how do you think this divide be overcome and can it ever be overcome how do you envision the next or are a.p.r.'s going forward so i think that's again you make a very good point so. yeah i say so one point did have that at some yesterday. some agreement on just read that ok we have problems with african-americans but we've made progress and broader areas this idea of continual progress which is in

contrast to france right which has street different interpretations of the french revolution and that's a fact and that about whether the french political system i i think there is some reason to believe that the united states is now you know position where we have 2 or 3 different understandings one as elite universities and then there's the interpretation conservatives who believe they hold you know that things are going i think probably the real truth is somewhere in between but over the next 48 years. the way the american economy is always brought people in right as is and they bring them and they make money so if you look at people who came from. our land our italy they've been absorbed they've been they've been absorbed into the culture there are cultures are part of it now you can get all sorts of the talmud or so on

chinese but the question is it has to be economically successful and in the globalized we're allow the united states still has a very successful economy. is that economy going to be successful over the next 20 years in the same way that it has that's a crucial question and it's going to have to be done at the economy go in you're going to have a hard time because you've got global warming and you've got globalization now where 85 percent of the world is in competition and those questions are i think you rightly point out up for grabs i don't think anybody has an answer if the economy doesn't do well then and then you know the general clout halacha got. the next president has a few challenges that come for him so i'm not sure that it's that such and that i am default position after all at this point of time in american history anyway professor brady it's been great pleasure talking to you thank you very much for

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