let it begin with. we're going to meet these groups and their leaders to find out how far they're ready to go to fight for what they believe is stupid for this country. this is the time to be here in america. up to 4 anxious days all waiting joe biden claims victory to become the 46 us president as projections in the take care of the editorial threshold. twist centonze law i had heard was a defiant donald trump brown's election fraud the republican camp certain watched all seats over a late surge opposed to pilots the biden. spot by trump's rejection of the results his supporters romney all across america to

manteca a recount. live from moscow to the wild this is a tense national wild commit to the program from the whole team my name sauce to taylor well to start us off this hour of course off to a tense and often acrimonious wait joe biden is on course to become the $0.40 president of the united states but donald trump appears adamant that the election was raked to read to ignore suits in the coming week. spence one breaks down how the situation came about. joe biden has officially become the president elect for the united states it was saturday when that announcement was made by a number of media organizations after biden secured more than 270 electoral votes

enough to put him over the top he spoke in wilmington delaware tonight alongside the 1st vice president of the united states come all the harris' 1st woman ever to ascend to the position of vice president here's what harry had to say in introducing the new president bay have elected a president who represents the best and. a leader the world will respect and our children will look up to a commander in chief will respect our troops and keep our country safe and a president for. americans the new president elect biden took to the states and i talked about the need for the nation to heal to come together and to be ready to move into a new chapter. joe biden becomes the oldest person ever to be elected president of the united states 5 days after voting 1st closed here's some of what biden had to

say the people of this nation have spoken. they've delivered a clear victory a convention victory a victory. for we the people we've won with the most road ever cash in presidential ticket in the history of the nation 74 you. know obviously this call doesn't come without controversy as i said a number of media organizations make this call but it doesn't officially become official until the vote is certified across the united states in 50 different states and that won't happen over the course of a number of days in the meantime on monday the trump campaign continues to push against this and will file a number of lawsuits in court including in michigan in pennsylvania. in arizona in the that in all of those states the president's team is claiming there has been rampant and widespread voter fraud in the fraud to actually overturn the election

here's what the president had to say tonight we all know why joe biden is rushing to falsely pose as the winner and why his media allies are trying so hard to help him they don't want the truth to be exposed the simple fact is this election is far from over now to be clear it's very difficult to have enough of these cases to be able to actually overturn the results of an election because it's more than just being able to prove fraud you would also have to be able to prove that there was enough fraud to actually change the outcome of the election and how far does it go does it go all the way to the u.s. supreme court in each one of these individual states that remains to be seen but in the meantime it seems that president trump is not yet conceding the race to president elect biden we should also mention that as these cases go forward there is some precedent for this back in the year 2000 when al gore and george w. bush ran against each other there was only one state that was ultimately contested that was the state of florida that race went on for 37 days while the new ballots

were counted it remains to be seen how long this race could continue with all of these different court challenges across the nation i'm dense one. woman's off to some outlets paced 5 to neophyte office crowds of his supporters erupted in celebration shouting total chumps home state of new york tens of thousands cuban and took to the streets elsewhere in the country to from massachusetts on the east coast to washington state on the west supporters of trump also came out in force claiming the election was fortunate and demanding a recount crowds gathered in florida where the incumbent prevailed and even in california huge as a democrat from home. while there is right it's a pit peaceful and non-singing michigan a battleground state of course think of talent ugly when the 2 opposing sides met.

well. scuffles broke out as you can see involving groups of people matty of one armed more than 500 trump supporters that gathered wearing my hat and chanting slogans such as 4 more years. old can store and you know neal here in the studio and they discuss the current atmosphere atmosphere state side. of the nation and whatever the result in the end of the day would wake up disappointed when they read the news on the social media and that's reflected by the protests we've seen over the streets across many cities of america both pro trumpet and celebrating baden's victory and also reflected in the polling numbers though don't forget that although biden won the majority of electoral college votes the popular vote was much closer around $75000000.00 for boyd to 71000000 for trumbo threat alerts yeah indeed indeed the highest amount for any president on the 2nd highest amount for 4 trumps so this was not a landslide victory as you quite rightly said

a blue wave of democrat senators and congressmen as well also failed to materialise for the democrats abroad and though remains optimistic and was adamant he was a president that can unite these divisions this was what he had to say i pledge to be a president who seeks not to divide but unify. were done to seize red states and blue states always she's the united states the bible tells us everything there is a season a time to grow tired of repeated time to sew and a time to hear oh this is the time do you hear on america. the deuce on the gold the right words here are the time when deficient is right but it's a tough task. it is going to face a very much an uphill battle he faces a majority republican senate with some states still facing a runoff to see which senators take the. sees their clear consensus which people

were hoping for which the poll numbers were open for hasn't materialized what role the has materialized is the scale of polarization in u.s. domestic politics and very much the deep rooted divides. them 4 years ago in the 26th election and this election shows they very much haven't gone away and ironically as you said all the right words from biden but this is a bit of deja vu for many american listeners because we've heard these words before following the 26th election from incumbent president donald trump now it's time for america to find a division have to get again. republicans and democrats and independents across this nation i say it is time for us to come together as one united people coming together of course is a particularly tough task given factors we should beyond bottle drops all job on to control the coronavirus pandemic how to handle that one key issue which the

election was very hotly forto which continues to polarize economic policy tax policy america's image abroad america's foreign policy these are all issues which do divide americans and which will continue to pose a challenge for this presidency and trumps campaign of course claims that the media in particular has been stoking these for many years and he believes that the only way he can get justice team trump can get justice is in the courts yeah absolutely i mean there's been a whole. host of allegations from trump's campaign. they say that a lot of the votes haven't been officially counted officially certified especially in those key swing states which have been making headlines over the last few days. trump's supporters claim that observers were allegedly not allowed into the stations to properly monitor the vote counting process. of diseased voters were counted in for. a lot of these already have been debunked by officials but

nevertheless he is taking legal action litigation in many of those key states that's going to head off into next year and i mean in one way you can blame them because again going back to 4 years ago to the 26th election the democrats there were also quite sore losers i mean hillary clinton was adamant that the election was stolen from that's exactly the right words and that resulted in 4 years of nearly 4 years of investigations and millions of taxpayers' dollars seeking to find that link between trump and russia proving that collusion not of course resulted in no evidence of such thing at all now ironically we see a complete role reversal here with the republicans with trump claiming the election was stolen from them and trumps presidency of course would have bottle heart in him and sort him out to fight these battles because of these allegations over the last few years. as we said remains optimistic that the us. of how this election was conducted can very much show the world how it's done tonight the whole world is

watching america and i believe that our brand america is a beacon for the growth of. we're not only we will not only by the example of our power but by the power of our example well most of the world which has been watching this election closely world leaders which expressed a lot of concern over the last few days of a constitutional crisis seeking to cobble sides looking at the protests the litigation the court battles which are due to go in world certainly until the end of this year probably well into next year as well they'll be looking at this and. thinking this is a slightly different picture than the one is by presenting what we discussed with gas whether america will now come together as joe biden said he wanted to happen in his acceptance speech or if the divisions are simply too deep. with trump's election there were 4 years of accusations that the russians had helped him become elected it was 4 years and i think around $30000000.00 of taxpayer money was spent

investigating those allegations which as we all know have come to nothing now in 2020 we actually have video footage of things like ballots arriving in unmarked vans and of people correcting ballots which you are not just allowed to do so there's a lot more evidence of voter fraud than there ever was before in foreign interference in the 26000 election and i hope as to not be a total hypocrites that the people who are all upset about electorate election integrity when donald trump was elected have those same concerns right now you know this is nothing new i come from chicago i was a suburban chicago police officer but in chicago in cook county from the time that i was a child there was always talk on. friday that people voting and things like that the united states really needs to get a handle on our voting system and is there for i mean are in this system purely from everything i'm seeing there are some problems i know the f.b.i.

has to go showing this is going to play out in the courts as a law enforcement officer it's very frustrating but what i'm more concerned about is that with day to day safety in our cities and the longer this plays out and the more tense people become the more dangerous it becomes for our citizens the more dangerous to becomes our business and of course the more dangerous it becomes for american law enforcement when the left leaning media is talking about unity dest their code for if you disagree with those shut up it's not real unity at all all that's going to happen is the people who feel left out or silenced by the media or by college campuses or whatever those people and their views are going to fester and become more radical there's going to be a lot of unrest on both sides because this is not. field country is a divided country that has been actively divided by the democratic and republican parties that were 2 groups have been actively and intentionally isolated so that

they don't communicate so they don't try to find compromise they don't try to find concord and instead try to view each other to view anyone who disagrees with them as an absolute enemy what we've seen from the d.n.c. an r.c. have been behaviors that are corrosive to democracy and corrosive to a polite society and to a civil society so i do believe we are in for several more years of major political unrest. international reaction has been rapidly coming into joe biden's projected victory israel's prime minister welcome by 2 while thanking donald trump for helping seal what he called historic peace accords such as the normalization of ties with the united arab emirates benjamin netanyahu called both politicians his great friends wanted me your leaders have generally expressed optimism at the new face up to take charge of the oval office congratulations to joe biden on his election as president of the united states and to come out of a harris on historic achievement the u.s. is almost important ally and i look forward to working closely together on our

shared priorities from climate change to trade and security the americans have chosen their president congratulations joe biden and come on harris we have a lot to do to overcome today's challenges let's work together i look forward to future cooperation with president biden our transatlantic friendship is irreplaceable if we are to master the great challenges of our time we have through a full member of the european parliament among others who categorized as biden as a friendly face for the pluck. it probably going to send that wouldn't be very helpful of 444 by then and then sol the u.s. supreme court it will not be sold spread out so it would stay the new administration but said. it to europe would like to have one close relationship with that by then and they would try to dissolve some trade the issues that say fans like. during that as he did time but being station if the usa would

be a more global great event that insults nato so nato would be more active i think it in a europe it would be more students than europeans and it really would like a strong america but we see that they've tried with trump in power to find a leader in europe 1st the 1st taste of matter was coming out and they're all trying to say ok we can do it without the united states senate because the european union that's i mean the europeans but the european union cannot do without a strong american by that and i didn't bodies this is this return of america to the global scene and is perceived as to your of the western world and i think that these orphans. these are presidents senator 3. different companies and in your wanted again to have to have a leader and that's why they took up the bite of their hat with that i don't think they could have done that with 4 more years with trump. that.

join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports i'm showbusiness i'll see if. anybody who thinks that because i just won the election we are problems are over that that's simply not true the problems we're there for president trump they're not going away you have grounds for the economy in the long room you're going to

have to pay for the things you're going to do there are we still have a problem in the united states with racism we have too many young are going to. jail for grown possessions in search of some of those problems that are. simply allowed produce not does not. welcome back now the u.k. has denied entry to all visitors from denmark over concerns they may be infected with a new strain of covert 19 the mutation of the virus which had spread through many farms has been detected in $214.00 people so far outbreaks have also been reported

in far farms across other parts of europe and the u.s. millions of manc are now set to be culled. i'm sure the virus mutates in and the mutated virus can spread to humans this is very very serious as the danish health authorities and the laborde to have fun fly for example safire assist in main forms the mutated virus to mimic me therefore pulls the risk they are becoming vaccines that will not work as they should. well to discuss this we have sasha camilla's a meter on projects coordinator of the organization paths of people for the ethical

treatment of animals to the c.e.o. of x. ray global and a leading 4 x. broker both feel very welcome to the program such as want to start with you we just saw quite an astonishing figure an estimated 15 to 17000000 makes do to be called do you think that seems like an aggressive move. so thank you so much for having me we are very alarmed to see what we're seeing in denmark this is a new strain of the virus that could potentially mean that a forthcoming vaccine would not be as efficient for humans now we at peta have campaigned against the fur trade for many years for the inherent cruelty of the trade but now we have one more reason to shut our farms for ever it's very disheartening to see the calls happening it's millions of animals and costs have also happened in other countries were killed in 1000 has been found on star farms

but it's important to remember that even without these culls even without the found and that these animals would not have had a happy retirement anyway they would have had their lives ended in a gruesome cruel way to become far codes so the only thing that we can do to protect animals and to protect human health from this sort of thing that can develop them and farm is to the fir tree and this is what we're calling on to do. why i think one important aspect to look at has of course the economic price of this. the 5 industry accounts about 40 percent of the raw the deadlock accounts for about 40 percent of the wilds industry. brings that about half a 1000000000 euros every year it employs $4000.00 people i mean that's going to be a loss of a livelihood for a lot of of residents. what absolutely yes. the the let's say that the size of the trade that was related to mix when exam comes to

denmark it's relevant we're talking $800000000.00 worth of trade to towards all of us and especially to china but it was all due of the world and in this measure that has been so drastic by the government and the prime minister met fredrickson. most probably will put an end to this to this. to this industry anyway because now we are we are facing. a 2nd wave opened by make and during the 1st wave d.-e. district it was related to 2 farms which were growing makes already got hit very badly we have seen the v.m. h. actually being hit like less 25 percent of year to year as compared to 200-1000 with the 2nd hit well at meeker level maybe the delay to that was

generally speaking before would be happy to say that most probably even if they wanted to or not this could be a little blow to this industry in denmark such a sort of picking up on that i think we do have to think obviously we accept that it's for many it's a very cruel industry but it also does this horrible irony to it but it does actually provide a livelihood and feed a lot of humans as well so how do you respond to people when they talk about that aspect of it well i'm sorry go ahead that we're about to come back to you. so in a kind of a context we have to keep in mind that people are losing jobs already this pandemic has hit so many industries people have lost their jobs people have faced uncertainty because of what's happening and if we have a new wave of this or like the institute has said that the worst case scenario of

this mutation is for a whole new pandemic to start out of denmark that means even more jobs will be on the line and even more uncertainty will come into play and also society has always evolved and as much as we as people would love to see the fair trade to stop existing tomorrow that's not going to happen it's going to be a gradual decline in many countries which will give people the chance to go into new areas in new industries and retrain and the governments could also help farmers that have been affected by this column and this loss of life lee who has to look into new possibilities and new opportunities and fire was a dying industry anyway the top designers in the world are refusing to work with it such as do cheap products for saatchi michael kors many top level designers are refusing to work with our so it was going to be a question of these people looking into diversifying into other areas of production

anyway and we say we think that the future is bright for being an alternate sets robot so i saw you nodding your head that when we were talking about how the government could find support for people who might be left out of pocket can support be given to european farmers in order to help them transition out of this industry. well of course this is something that that the government has to do talking about denmark well they have probably the best positioned country to do that they have this very big suffering fund that has been filled by the revenues from the all in from the north sea that they can actually use to support the livelihood of this people. i do concur with my gentle colleague that. said the use of the of the of the fares for the fashion industry is that lining saying it's quite some time but this this is this is serious if we look at

the micro level as it was right through this said a new but a new way for from bentinck with the mutated with the mutated virus could really be a big problem also because the economies are really looking at having this vaccine that's when it's possible that the mutation could actually impact a lot on the effectiveness of this of this virus and we know that the of this vaccine and we know that the big problem here is how this virus fred and how it clogs the health care off of countries so yes the government should look into it that much is very well positioned maybe other countries has been hit by this like like spain for example might be having some a bit more problems when it comes to supporting people but it's not only them and needed the problem is actually you have to look beyond the industry itself because

it really impacts at the macro level i am always looking thing let's say to focus on the cure more on of course the bus and but the cure is more important given the specific impact of the of the of the midas on the health care but still the vaccine is very important and if you dated virus at this stage with a raging. second wave. could be a big problem for the prime minister and. he said. well why don't i want to you know i think that the one thing to pick up on that is that you said it could have all of the quote was that it could have devastating one thing that we do know about creative viruses that we actually don't know very much about it keeps mutating at the beginning we said it could transfer from it couldn't transfer from dog so from animals to humans now it transpires that it could my my question is this is that we're 'd considering culling 70 in around 17000000 animals

there are currently only around 200 i say only obviously in quotation marks 214 infections 19 is it maybe back to a stop less if this strain of covert 19 is fatal or see how fatal it is before we start taking drastic action. well. we don't know much about this virus just like you said it's a new virus and we're just learning about it as we go along but scientists believe that this virus originated in the live animal market and that's humans 1st came into contact with it by handling the animals and if you look at our farms when we look at the public health risk that they pose they're really not much different from those live animal markets that this virus and otherwise viruses like sarrasin originated from so animals on these farms are really small tiny cramped cages in close proximity of one another sometimes they are stacked on top of one

another which means that the exchange of bodily fluids is very easy and this makes a very easy growing ground for at the agents and bacteria can flourish. in an acidity like this and in conditions like that so it's not the 1st time that we have seen cold at 19 on make farms we have seen far farms in the netherlands in spain in italy in the u.s. and in denmark all become hot spots for the virus so we do know that the virus flourishes in these in these places and so what i take the risk why should we gamble with what could be a huge threat to public health nobody reads copd but we all need a vaccine that's effective well that certainly seems like an incredibly complicated decision i saw you don't envy anyone in power at the moment that is for sure that

was such a committee you kate major and special projects coordinator of people for the ethical treatment of animals pizza. at the oxford group went to national and trading broca thank you both so much for your time. if that's all for the moment i'll be back at the top we've got plenty more for you so do check. there. are. a lot of well controls apart while all eyes are still on child.