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with you today is your bridge and president obama lead prime minister. and russia signed the declaration announcing this. armenia russia and azerbaijan reach an agreement to cease hostilities over the disputed not go to court about region. protesters stormed the parliament and government buildings in the armenian capital outraged at the deal they see as
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a defeat for their country. this all comes after azerbaijan launches an investigation after admitting to shooting down a russian military helicopter over a median air space moscow has welcomed an apology over the incident which killed 2 of the 3 crew on board. supporters of president trump take to the streets across the country demanding vote recounts in battleground states and there is a role reversal with team trump accusing the democrats of stealing the 2020 vote 4 years after the opposition called into doubt the republican election when. broadcasting live direct from our studios in moscow this is our to international i'm sean thomas certainly glad to have you with us let's start with our breaking
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news this hour a peace agreement has been reached between armenia russia and azerbaijan to end hostilities over the disputed. region russian president vladimir putin announced the cease fire earlier. he would do day as a bridge and president ilham aliyev armenia's prime minister nico pressure now and russia have signed the declaration announcing the ceasefire and stopping combat nagorno-karabakh conflict zone this is a pivotal moment absolutely and perhaps the most important development in months if not years in this whole conflict between me and breakaway region of nagorno-karabakh and azerbaijan which is essentially a war between the armenia and azerbaijan and armies now there's something that adds extra weight to this truce steal the fact that it was hammered out by the leaders so the mediator was russia's president vladimir putin and also the parties to the
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negotiations were the armenian prime minister nicola and the president ilham aliyev now i can tell you that the cease fire agreement is already in place it's taken effect at midnight moscow time and let me just go through some of the key points of that truce deal so according to the dream and the militaries of both armenia and azerbaijan must observe their positions must stay in the positions that they are currently taking now something that is absolutely vital and crucial in this case is the introduction of a russian peacekeeping mission not something that had long been talked about but never been announced officially now is the time there will definitely be a russian peacekeeping mission that is supposed to comprise of almost 2000 russian troops and also $380.00 units of military hardware that announcement came from the russian ministry of defense besides this key transport hubs injunctions must be
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unblocked which is supposed to allow free movement of refugees and hopefully a proper exchange of prisoners between the sides i can tell you that a last month of previous. the ceasefire was announced after talks between the top diplomats the foreign ministers of russia armenia and azerbaijan but that agreement never properly worked perhaps it was able to lead to a situation in which the worst case scenario was avoided but still it failed to stop the bloodshed and this perhaps explained why talks on a higher level were required i can tell you that a little earlier book who announced that it had taken more territories and the nagorno-karabakh region including the town of sushi which is the 2nd biggest town after the capital of nagorno-karabakh and that and yes the armenian side as it
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usually happens denied losing control over that part of the breakaway region but then it was apparent it became apparent that because advancements have taken place and this perhaps explains the the mood of president of who said this when he was addressing the nation right after the announcement of the cease fire deal because. i would like to see done very very we've sealed the deal to certainly years long conflict between our media. the occupation and. the mood though is strikingly different on the other side of the front line i can tell you that in armenia this truce deal drove some people mad and almost instantly protests broke out in the capital which has already allowed to violence i can tell you and hopefully you can see the pictures that the protesters stormed government
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buildings it seems that some armenians see this as a defeat and they are not willing to accept the terms of the deal which led to a situation in which overnight the prime minister nick called on had to go. a lot of 2 were dressed the nation and he was saying that he had no other choice given the actual military situation on the frontline and he explained this by saying that his army was up against someone he called terrorists and also 'd the military of a mighty nato country and that he was clearly referring to the support that azerbaijan is getting from turkey now by the way something very important for me to say is that nicole posturing out was the 1st official the 1st leader of a country to announce the cease fire and this is the tone this is the rhetoric that he was using let's just listen to a part of the statement that he 1st made i signed
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a statement with the presidents of russia and has visions and the karabakh was starting at 1 am today to takes to the statement is unspeakably painful for me personally and from people who have made this decision as a result of an in-depth analysis of the military situation and assessment of the people who knew it best who is based on the belief that this is the best possible solution to the current situation i will tell you about this all in detail in the coming days this is not a victory but there will be new defeat until you admit that you lost we will never recognize ourselves as the losing side and this should be the beginning of an era of national unity and revival now there's another element to the story that i've not mentioned so far because on monday at about 5 30 pm moscow time a russian military helicopter was shot down over the armenian air space but space but it was very close to the border where i was there by john and potentially as we
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understand this situation could've led to something much more explosive but then almost immediately at about a couple of hours russia got out apology from but who. right johnny military admitted that it was a tragic accident when they shot down the russian military helicopter from a surface to air missile launcher and this ease the tensions somehow and russia welcomed that apology here's a statement from the russian diplomats we assessed positively the fact that book who immediately admitted its guilt we also know the assurances given to us by the ears are be joining site that a prompt investigation of this incident will be carried out and the perpetrators will be punished so again you can just imagine how tense the situation was so it appears this true steel was in the making when that helicopter crash
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happened and obviously again this could have led to much worse scenarios but in that case the sides managed to come to some kind of understanding that it was a mistake and then we realized that they were able to proceed with the cease fire agreement that we're talking about now and again this is a very important development because we've heard none of this before and this is clearly an agreement between the leaders that requires to be observed i mean if this is the time to act and to do something for the leaders what else can stop them it's putin it's a league of and it's posturing on there you have it so i can tell you though that for us it's time to watch out for what's going on in armenia because clearly some layers of the population there are completely not happy with it though meanwhile protesters outraged at the agreement took to the streets of the armenian capital yerevan they stormed both the parliament and government buildings armenia's prime
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minister valdis those behind the unrest would be prosecuted the local journalist joe. reports from the center of the events. i'm here and in their public square and you're about. this so about an hour and a half 2 hours ago when the statement starts come out on the switch and facebook. people starts to gather it and the government building just behind me was broken into. for just this much to go in so i put out flags and within half an hour i was at aldershot was there was thousands of people. safe they called full they were looking for this big diff told me they were looking for bush in yemen. and they're trying to find him. a good place kind of slow try to stop with that and just stepped aside for just as he saw to the building and when they kind of pulled
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apart the buildings might also look smashing glass. some scuffles breaking out a few fights between purchases it was you want different things and something happening again behind me and this this this kind of stuff is live a place between protesters between some place but mostly stepping back and allowing people to express that around. i. am i. have been called some movement approaches to explain the building and i was just behind the camera was and i. respect what they are now and it's awful raymond having these kind of filtered out i am in an hour and. people people can keep you know where they take all the screaming for me and i will admit that you didn't think underscores and thought now 23 i was like. former u.s.
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diplomat jim johns has shared his take on the current situation. in terms of the end of the matter i don't think this solves the overall question going to go on a car and what its status will me in the short term the cease fire holds as the previous ones have not and with the introduction of russian peacekeepers that helps to stabilize the situation yes that that possibly could work but there is still a lot of political wreckage left over that would have to be negotiated for a long term solution to what is the status quo not are about or are soft as the armenians call it and also the other areas surrounding record acara botha connect our media to a normal harbach that i don't think even the armenians are saying they don't consider part of azerbaijan but they've been holding sense here early 1990 s. they probably felt that there was a stronger. that it could have expected stronger support from the russians but you
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know there's a complication here to this remember the mr pushing him was brought to power in one of these color wrote pollutions in 2018 and trying to pursue a policy that was not as moscow centric as previous armenian governments he wanted to reach out more to the west and many people in fact even considered him somewhat anti russian and then when the chips were down he expects the russians to come to armenia as a rescue which russians really did not the russians i think or more focus on how do they keep the lid on as how do they limit also outside influence letters from turkey or from nato or from other powers over an area that let's be honest was part of the show union in part of the russian empire before that and they really do not want to see any other spheres of influence extended in that. as mentioned earlier azerbaijan's president announced of the capture of a strategic town in the disputed region sparking celebrations on the streets of baku azerbaijan that defense ministry said the town of shushi had been quote liberated from the armenian occupation after more than 20 years the town lies on
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the main road connecting nagorno-karabakh with armenia here's what the local leadership has been saying. we must now acknowledge that he chain of misfortune has befallen us and the town of she she is completely out of our control and he hopeful or inspiring propaganda will and he said to distance us from reality the start there is a city of shows she is now under the control of the over the azerbaijani army that has been confirmed now by johnny started after that they have published a video showing that the as a bridge on the forces is controlling the city of the streets of city of shushi but the above the question now what's next what city will be next is it a step on a kurd or maybe there will be this settling in shoes they will have a break maybe after 4 or 5 days of heavy fighting across the region
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of a corrupt baka here in armenia that people are desperate they are fill that if they have been left down and they don't know what to do actually and we can notice that in their faces because they have suffered a lot they have given a lot and struggled all these 4 for more than one month. and they sic roofies a lot now the fighting had been settled for a break as we believe but we still receive some information from our sources instapundit go to that. the shelling is still and step on a kurd and the city of moore to need to the north to any to the north and also on the road that connects now gorney corrupt with armenia it's a matter of time now. the arrival of azerbaijani forces there has sparked a mass exodus of civilians in these images from sunday you can see a line of traffic leading out of the main city stop on
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a kurd the disputed region has been the focus of intense fighting since late september despite 3 attempted cease fires its illegally part of azerbaijan but has a majority armenian population and has been pushing for independence for more than 3 decades the latest flare up in the feud has left hundreds dead. switching gears now to the us in the election there have been more claims of election meddling with donald trump accusing the democrats of massive voter fraud after joe biden was proclaimed president elect. the. president has yet to concede the election he is a valid legal action claiming there has been serious fraud. we believe these people are thieves the big city machines are corrupt this was
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a stolen election the best poster in britain wrote this morning that this clearly was a stolen election that it's impossible to imagine that biden out ran a bomb in some of these states where it mattered they stole what they had to steal clashes have occurred in several states between rival crowds with several arrests having been made that says trump supporters stand by the president in questioning the election results. were. on saturday media outlets called the race for biden after days of counting the president elect has since promised to help america become
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a nation healed but like in 2016 ahead it is off to a shaky start with more allegations of meddling and harkins comments. for many americans the 2020 us presidential election had so much riding on it it was symbolic a long awaited charts for justice to prevail for the country to correct the mistakes of 2016 at least that's how the media and many people saw it where were you in 2017 when we had the worst president we could argue it's unfair to rank trump as the worst president ever after just one year but clearly those scholars see in him a great potential worst in most dangerous president in the history of our country or the worst we're as well as america is over. thousands of jubilant people celebrating on the streets a far cry from the scenes we saw after the last presidential election seemingly the only tears this time with those of joy. it's vindication for
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a lot of people who have really suffered for years ago when trump won broadcasters showed scenes of people in shock and crying today a biden declaration shows coverage that would make you think jesus had returned for 4 hours might be exaggerating but to some it really looks like a savior of the senate upon america except this is a reality for only half of the country biden's predicted landslide or blue wave didn't happen and no matter how many times he was called the worst president in american history the worst president the country's ever had trump still managed to gain the support of close to half the electorate and they alongside his campaign team are not giving up without a fight. i. was able to over and immediately. with the democratic leadership all trump has so far also
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refused to concedes making a slew of allegations about the legality and accuracy of the voting process if you count the illegal votes easily when if you count the illegal votes they can try to steal. the election from us and trump's team up behind him ready to do battle in the country's legal system and highest courts to stop what they see as an injustice these are a lawsuit will be brought starting on monday as you know from the very beginning the mail in ballots were a source of some degree of skepticism if not a lot of skepticism as being innately prone to fraud this fraud war between the trump and biding camps won't end anytime soon how do we know this well that simple the last one dragged on for trump's entire term a democratically elected president was accused of just about every wrongdoing trump is already acting like a russian. is actively or was actively colluding with russia hone
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told mahler's office about more contacts between trump's orbit and its it appears trump himself in russia they didn't believe trump when he denied there was any collusion for example so why should he give his opponent is the benefit of the doubt what claims the president made yesterday were simply not supported you know i think what the president needs to do is frankly put his big boy pants on he needs to acknowledge the fact that he lost and he needs to congratulate the winner while it's not for us biden or trump to decide whether any wrongdoing took place during the 2020 lection it looks like math will be down to the supreme court but what we do know is that trump's 4 years in office might have taught him a valuable lesson about how to fight his bottle and so far it looks like they'll be little unity along the way we asked our guests whether there's any merit to donald trump's allegations of ballot fraud. there's no doubt of that but that joe biden is
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the president elect and will take office at noon on the 20th of january next year there are no court cases that have any merit the margins are such that they are not capable of being disputed and also clear joe biden won the election by 5000000 votes the most votes that any candidate has ever gotten the country's polarized but there was an extraordinary turnout in this election largely because of donald trump but because a majority of americans wanted did not want him to continue as president not joe biden got over a 50 percent of the vote. the hillary clinton won by 3000000 votes but she didn't get 50 percent there are teams of lawyers in every state with question marks on them and their purpose is to put together their part of a case that's going to be presented to the public and to justice as
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a full case that shows that the election outcome was altered by the fraud that it was that significant number to give you just one of those mathematical mere impossibilities to show you how you can obviously see that things were done but are not right to. vote for hillary clinton was very strong in a lot of democrats capital cities including the ones in the swing states joe biden got fewer votes than hillary clinton in every a major american city except for and those 4 are milwaukee detroit atlanta and philadelphia the 4 cities where much of the obvious jane are you is going on so joe biden got more votes than hillary clinton coincidentally in the 4 capital cities of the swing states but less all across the rest of the country and still he gets a record number 74000000 popular votes for president. how does that happen when
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only 4 cities have to make up a disadvantage to your previous jane today in the previous election it's just mathematically nearly impossible i think there's a lot of circumstantial evidence a lot of self evident impossibilities like that and you have to assemble them all into a single detailed case and i think that's what president trump team of lawyers is doing right now europe has been taking a keen interest in the u.s. election with joe biden set for the white house brussels has expressed hope bilateral ties will get a boost though some in the e.u. are skeptical things will actually improve the shard been skipping sabbat story and the e.u. leaders was signaling their congratulations a sense of relief i think in europe that biden is the president elect there was a lot welcome particularly over the fact that biden has said he would bring the u.s. back into the paris climate agree fold but there was also this carefully wooded suggestion
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about the challenges that are faced in the future and cooperation all those challenges together one of the big issues the european leaders are going to be thinking about is nato trump was seen as being divisive not particularly supportive of the alliance whereas joe biden's seen as somebody who is a big supporter of nato and may look to reinforce the alliance but there are some aspects of that that he won't be changing from the trumpet administration clued in perhaps the 2 percent of the g.d.p. that trump demanded that other nato members pay their fair share that's likely to remain the status quo and those the suggestion that joe biden would not be making a u. turn on other important decisions. joe biden isn't going to change washington's approach to international issues overnight because he can't it's a mistake to believe that everything changes europe must above all count on itself nothing will be easy there are also many issues where i don't think anything is
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going to change there. there's also the issue of trade this is been a massive problem with all these tariffs that trump has been imposing on e.u. products over the last 3 years now joe biden comes into the presidency with a u.s. trade deficit of $170000000000.00 u.s. dollars with the e.u. so trade is something that is going to be continuously a difficult issue there's also talks coming up over the digital tax on tech giants which of course friction over the past year or so and there is this continuing dispute over subsidies for airbus and boeing so that is unlikely to resolve itself very soon now the e.u. has also been pushing ahead with this agenda of more sovereignty in defense in trade trying to perhaps sort of rally itself up against the u.s. and that is also unlikely to change we need to up this marks
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a new chapter in european history one where europe is independent where we can be proud of our european culture and identity will be able to stand up against china against the united states against the disorder we are currently witnessing european strategical told them is goal number one for generation we're sending a message not only door citizens but also to the rest of the world europe is the world power and then of course there's the issue of bragg's it those negotiations not going to well between the u.k. and the e.u. but the e.u. is hoping that a biden presidency will not give special treatment to the u.k. particularly if there is no deal breaks it so lots of issues that europe is waiting to find out about but the reality is joe biden has so much on his plate domestically trying to create the harmony within the u.s. and let's not forget that trump gained more than 70000000 votes trump is and is
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alive and kicking and joe biden is going to have to do an awful lot to reach out to those voters. former austrian foreign minister karin believes ties with europe won't be a major priority for but personally i don't see 2 european union issues being top chanda we might believe that we are so important that washington wakes up in the morning and now cares 1st and foremost about how to repair the alliance how to get back to better relations with the various e.u. member states no i think their 1st and foremost foreign policy a chanda with the need to people's republic of china and how to handle all the open issues with them but personally i would share the position by former president of to you being commissioner jocular do you think it's going to change because although he content a lot and there are certain constant. factors that continue
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one of them is to trade deficits and the other one is to treat this and of course the burden sharing within the lions. are let's go back to a quick reminder of our breaking news in agreement has been reached between armenia russia and azerbaijan to cease hostilities over the disputed not go to note about region azerbaijan's president called the agreement historic and said it brings to an end to the long term conflict the armenian pm though said he had no choice but to sign the document this all comes hours after azerbaijan said it was launching a probe into the downing of a russian military helicopter over armenian airspace 2 of the 3 crewmembers on board were killed by john has apologized for that incident a move welcomed by moscow of course we are keeping across the story and we'll bring you more as it develops my colleague harvey he'll be here in about 30 minutes and 30 seconds with a full and fresh look at your news this is our team international. tactics
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