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this is a democracy at its finest. yes, those were the cries that have dominated the political noise and rhetoric coming from all corners of the democrat and republican water bearers of the stork. election week as the united states of america begins to move forward into whatever new future this election has shaped or wrought, depending on your opinion. and while former vice president joe biden appears, appears to have wrapped up a very narrow victory. thanks to mail in voting in the time of coburn, that that hasn't stopped my friends, that hasn't stopped our brand name and cheap us president. donald trump from crying foul. we think we will win the election very easily. we think there's going to be a lot of litigation because we have so much evidence, so much proof and it's going to end perhaps that the highest court in the land will see what we think they'll be a lot of litigation because we can't have an election still in the like this, and i tell you, i would, i have been going about this for many months for those of you. and i have said very
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strongly that 1000000 ballots are going to end up being a disaster. so there is donald once again declaring that this fight for the white house between our 2 geriatric leaders could end up in a legal battle on the floor of the supreme court democracy at its finest. so what is the wave of litigation as the trump and his supporters are counting on? well vox reports that the trump campaign has filed a wave of lawsuits seeking to make marginal changes to the procedures governing ballot counting. but nearly all of these suits involve such minor disputes that it's unclear what trump stands to gain even if he prevails in court. and as far as the supreme court is concerned, so far, the associated press reports that the trump campaign also seeking to intervene in a pennsylvania case at the supreme court that deals with whether ballots received up to 3 days after the election can be counted. interestingly, most legal experts have said that none of these kinds of cases could put the
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overturn the election. but for those of us who lived through the great bush versus gore, debacle of the year 2000 with the supreme court ultimately took the presidency out of the hands of the voters and moved over to the partisan waters. we remain on edge and always watching the hawks. if you want to go on a cd, you want to do so you can see the prizes. you always stay on see great dicks least systemic deceptions leaks show, which i would put you just as well who are going to watching the hawks. i am tire open to and i'm in the crowd. and joining us to discuss the post-election, legal and political fist fight for the presidency, is the co-director of the national grassroots election protection coalition professor and journalist journalist harvey wasserman. thank you so much for joining us. harvey. they could be hero of your mind. thank you. how was nice to hear. so
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professor wasserman, you and many others have been sounding the alarm on the potential for a legally or politically hijacked election outcome for quite some time. after hearing president donald trump invoked the supreme court once again, this week are your fears and concerns becoming a reality where we get to see because if you taste 65 or that's why they rushed for that seat, it's very good. and, you know, he's got 3 texts, but you know, he has lost this election by more than 3000000 votes. he, he lost by substantially more than the last in 2016. and thankfully, this year the electoral college votes are lining up differently than they didn't join it 16. but you know, we've got to get rid of that work of powers. that's one of the reasons we convened our grassroots election protection coalition. i think he's done. i think he's such an outrageous and ridiculous character that the powers that be are not going to
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keep him in there. but the important thing to remember is that he was the popular vote by well over 3000000 votes in any sane, actual democracy. we wouldn't be talking about undecided election. the election's over us by 3000000 votes. that's saying, so, i mean, and, you know, bush in 2000 old i took away one by, you know, if he actually lost by 500000, what happened in florida should never have happened. and what happened in 2016 should never have happened downtown should never been the white house. so we've got to get rid of the electoral college we got to get with kerry and bring one good act in the so actually very big deal is that almost all the ballots were on paper. you know, because that one good thing that came from the go of it is that we had a giant spread of hope by mail, which is a really big step forward for democracy and made a big difference. and also because older people like myself didn't go into the
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polls to work. we had a major generational shift and they had millions of us thousands of more deals. and generational z. kids came out to work, the polls a great education and democracy. this will change the nature of our country. so sure. it's big step forward because for the last 20 years i've been doing using i, we're trying to go to machines to steal the vote, you know, push and pray. now at least we have a paper ballots that are just going to help those who are most affluent. and those are all really good points. i like the transition team, you know, the people who are actually involved at the polls this go around versus, you know, we've seen over 10 aeration before you touch on 2000. and that's something that we've heard back and forth in media lately. what are some of the ways the losing party, which in this case now appears to be president dollar? trump could still essentially steal this election away from joe biden. and the democrats, should we be worried about a repeat of gore versus bush in 2000. we've already seen so many legal challenges.
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yes, absolutely. because 1st or they stole for this year. i mean they disenfranchise one more than a 1000000 excellence, who the people of florida voted and said ok, you can vote. and then the legislature, the gerrymandered register if you stepped in, in scenario can't vote or if you pay your fees and you can't even find out how much you enjoy. ready if those people had voted in florida, trump would not have carried for 4 was stolen this year again. and for god's sakes, hopefully when 40 years we can correct that. i think gerrymandering has got to go. but this year tactically, you know, the way the constitution is written, the state legislatures choose the electrophoresis to the electoral college to choose the president. there is actually no mention in because the touche and of the right of the people to vote directly on the president quite the opposite. in fact, 47892860, there was
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a transition. the legislatures chose the president that but then by 860, that they were following the lead of the public. but legally, the legislatures have the right to choose the ork doors. and if trump had not been such a raving lunatic, it could happen again this year. but i don't think he's got the support to pull it off. you have to have some kind of public support when he loses an election by 33 and a half 1000000 votes and behave the way he's behaved. i don't think he can pull it off, but legally he could do it. you know, it's interesting because you mentioned a few things that number one like him giving would have been electoral college or try agree with a what. what can we do to better protect our voting and democratic processes from getting it, you know, legally or illegally, hijacked by one or both of our dominant political parties? well, i've read a history book getting i states about that actually had a history united states raid a published called this people spiral of u.s. history this summer. and then i am bernie sanders saving the world. but that's not
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going to happen then. so we get the history of the electoral college. it's ridiculous, you know, alexander hamilton came up with this, he was a minor because basically he did now and the public to choose the president was so far beyond that. we need to get rid of the electoral college we need, get, need to get rid of gerrymandering. we need to have great choice voting paper ballots and a reliable action system. we also there is also another big step forward this year not much talked about, but the, a lot of the n.b.a. national basketball association. i read yes. were used for voting. and it's a huge step forward. now to have people on these lines, people could come in their restaurants or. ready this food safety, that's it, their very big success this year, 20 a basketball arenas, a couple of football stadiums. you know, in kansas city and charlotte very, very good, good stuff. but number one, get rid of the electoral college number 2,
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get rid of gerrymandering. these are the things that are really killing our democracy. that's how we wound up in states like michigan and wisconsin, pennsylvania, and north carolina, with extreme right wing republican legislatures in states that are evenly divided ohio for god sakes, a 5050, democrat, republican state, the same legislations, a super majority republican and as is the congressional delegation and that's what one of the reasons our government is so unresponsive is because these people get these seeds and they're in the state legislatures and congress, and they're completely safe because they're not competitive elections where it's actually been improved this california, california has a very good redistricting commission which is non partisan or by multi parties and actually and in 20062008 both were just major and the congressional delegations
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were put under control of this district. the commission and guess who funded it. arnold schwarzenegger choice nader put $3000000.00 of his own dollars in for a statewide campaign that was successful. and thank you arnold, you know, for, for helping to do this. it's a model for the rest of it. and over the next 4 years, if we can win state referenda and maybe even get federal legislation, get rid of this gerrymandering thing will again, take a big step toward democracy. we're good, good folks like you out there fighting for their son educating the public. i truly do believe that we will hopefully see this in the near future and i and it's funny, they never mention alexander, the monarchist in the much popular play i have to bank or someone had or had he was out though he was also bisexual by way, of knowing that they have that actually our right wing abbess. thank you so much for coming on the present us one pleasure having you on the island. if a great model, great way to wake up have a go and there is, there are the 2. as the democrats,
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republicans continue to fight over ballots of votes election observers and who makes the better coffee on election day one. go to controversy that has been, thankfully left to the sidelines of 2020 as post-election fight for the white house has been accusations of foreign election, meddling or interference. unlike 2016, which saw cries of foreign meddling dom meddling, dominating the headlines. but hey, let's not forget, 2020 is not over yet, and donald is desperate for excuses at this point. here is our to america's alex mahela bridge with an in-depth look at the hypocrisy surrounding the out of state spears of foreign election meddling especially given our own sort of history on the matter from ukraine to venezuela. for decades, the us has been accused of interfering in elections around the globe while insisting that other state out of its voting process puts in someone that is
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a building standard that they present when they meddle in the internal affairs of other countries where they do not respect the electoral rules of those countries such as what happened in bolivia such as what has happened in venezuela, where we are an example in terms of electoral matters. u.s. security officials say that there has been no foreign meddling detected in america's current presidential vote. a stark contrast to just weeks ago when u.s. intelligence accused russia any ran of interfering in the election. well things are supposedly above board in the us vote. the same can't be said for elections in countries where america has been involved. bolivia is a prime example of that, a nation that just recently democratically elected a new government after the us imposed its will a year ago. what occurred is nothing to be surprised about. we also won last year, and when democracy didn't serve their purpose, they carried out a coup d'etat. the us is accused of helping a right wing interim government take control of bolivia in october of 2019. at
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least 35 people died in related incidents from campaign financing to violent coups . some would say the u.s. is the biggest election meddler of them all. dove levon political scientist who conducted an in-depth analysis of election meddling, told usa today, the us has intervened in the most elections between 1000 $906.00 to 2081 elections in total. this includes well known cases in guatemala and the rand in the 1950 s. and in chile, in nicaragua, in the seventy's and eighty's. more recent campaigns up to the 2000 election in serbia where the united states openly funded a movement to defeat president slobodan milosevic approach in afghanistan. where the u.s. failed to remove honeyed karzai from power. as well as everything from simple funding to revolutions in places like ukraine, kenya, and lebanon. the list goes on. one of the most publicized examples of u.s. interference in recent years happened in that as well. a united states recognize
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the opposition leader, one wide open as venezuela's interim president, ignoring that country's 2018 election results in which president nicolas maduro was reelected. even though some may be questioning just how democratic america's elections are, many outsiders are insisting that the process must be allowed to run its course according to the laws of the united states. at the same time, they hope that the u.s. will give other nations the same respect for our t.v. . i'm alex mileage. already we're going to recommend that you can also start watching the hawks on other r.t., programming on demand for the brand new portable t.v. which is portable t.v. up or the variable on all platforms with that believe downloaded, check it out. all right, coming up, we talk about the massive amounts of money spent on this election would be co-host of by any means necessary. a radio spot meant jack a look. and so stay tuned for watching the fox. you go on and live
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by the fundamentalists or, you know, bourne is the biggest block tonight. another tease doesn't work. we don't have a 30. we do the back seat needs to be ready to come in. every class is this. we can do better. we should be everyone is contributing each other own way, but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever. the challenges create, the response, has been so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together.
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what you people look for to see whether what we're saying is actually playing out in the real world and sort of thing to look at would be the u.s. dollar versus the chinese big. ok, that's the main 4 expire that's going to tell you what's happening in the global economy. if this all this debt is going to trigger all this money printing, the dollar will start to drift lower and it's already, you know, looking very weak. i think the last 4 years under paul, they've been able to kind of propped up to a large degree. but i think my going to see a serious decline of the dollar. you can see the chinese currency start to really outperform the dollar
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the 2020 alexion is coming to a close america could have a president announce before the end of the day, but that likely won't come without legal challenges and a fight to prove vote by mail as project that all heralded by the truck campaign. this election seemingly has lasted longer than a lifetime. and amid the backdrop of a pandemic, the competition for the white house only intensified. unlike most countries, america is known for long paying thinking long presidential campaigns like and all the time and money spent on attack ads knocking on doors, sending mailers, calling people, and using social media to change minds, campaigns are high dollar events. in fact, the 2020 presidential election was
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a whopper of worker setting proportions. this presidential election cost $14000000000.00. it is thinking only the most expensive election in history and twice the cost of the 26000 presidential election. breaking it down, even with many unemployed and suffering from the way to cope. 192020 saw more individual donations to campaigns. in other years, women in particular, just kept giving. and the donations were often said to candidates from out of state . democrats definitely went above and beyond blowing past republican election, spending margins, democratic candidates, and groups spent $6900000000.00 between super pacs, big business individual giving and a strong sense of urgency. following the death of supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg, democrats got the money machine rolling, and here to break down those money bags in the 2020 campaign is jack a whoop co-host of by any means necessary. welcome. thanks for having me.
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while checking the fund, raising structure in 2020 for the presidential race, the races has been very strong, especially considering it continued to grow even after the pandemic hit. what do you think are some of the driving factors and the biggest influence? it's just the fact that us a little system itself is a form of political socialism and people giving don't get you know, these candidates come begging for money that you know they have just or in order to save them from other it is also begging another group of people for money to save them from and most americans don't understand that the entire campaign finance system in this country is a massive financial grassed of the american people. but it is so baked into the
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political process that the money that is spent so obscure, it really does a good job of hiding that the people. so people believe that they're funding better policies for themselves. only really, they're just being ripped off by these politicians. when you look at these numbers, every $14000000000.00 a massive amount of money to be spent on political campaigns, i'm immediately my mind kind of goes to what else could we have gotten for $14000000000.00 going to look at. but there's been a lot of talk about removing money from politics, but have 2020 as any indication that isn't going to happen anytime soon. not of the kind of numbers. i was curious, could you explain kind of the strong stronghold in the breakdown of individual donations from citizens versus, you know, political action committee spending and why one is as you know, why a political actions would mean so much more devastating to our political process. i mean, your average american citizen really doesn't have a whole lot of money to give to individual candidates even though you know
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collectively well when individual people details like $27.00, you know, save money to bernie sanders campaign. yes. for millions of individual people can give that amount of money to a candidate who is advocating for policies that will prove the material conditions of the people who are contributing to their campaign. that's one thing, but we're talking about political action committees that can represent corporate interests, that our companies, large companies like amazon and over. and, you know, fossil fuel industries that pay these companies to advocate for issues that a lot of them until we leave fewer taxes to pay people less money to reduce people's benefits. so that workers are taking away less money and a less secure existence in this country. then you see the outsized
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influence of money and politics. it's not individual people are giving too much money to politicians. it's that massive corporations that have enormous, endless amounts of money to literally buy policy and politicians have much more insolence and power politics than your average. you know, multiple who wants medicare for all straight in the give the 27 dollars every 2 or 3 months to give to bernie sanders cammy. and at the beginning of a presidential campaign cycle, trump and the republican national committee out one rave and outspent democrats. but there was a huge shift after the summer. and moreover, in the fall, we saw a large surge of donations for democratic candidates not only in the presidential race, but also in senate and other down ballot races. what do you think are some of the think you are events or groups of events that contributed to the giving shift in that timeframe? i know we saw a black lives matter,
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but what are some of the things that you would say really shifted the scales from trump giving to a lot more democratic giving? i think in the way that trump, the administration handled the pandemic really rubbed a lot of conservatives don't know. it's absolutely the wrong way. and i don't want to give these people any credit for being or world in any way was just bad optics. with bob woodward came out with the recording portrait admitted that he knew the virus was much more serious. that it was that it was deadly from the beginning and he intentionally lied to the american people were public and it's like to keep their lies like that their coverage. so that was a really bad p.r. moment for the g.o.p. and their conservative donors. and i mean the death toll among people who were up some who were succumbing to the fire was virus was rising,
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the trumpet ministration was due to new and be downplaying. it. it didn't look good for the republicans. so they, they really, really didn't want to be seen continuing to fund that type of open avarice toward the american people, i think, or the republican money machine of the republican donors that was the singular turning point for them or any trial with their money. we got a little bit of time left like bob simmons, but i want to ask you in this is i think the most important question of all, how do we wrestle control of corporate money impact money away from these 2 parties? if we even can and get, you know, the donations, if you can, there's always going to be political donations. but how do we get it out of the hands of corporations and back into the hands of the people who are belongs. i mean the 1st answer people always give this to overturn citizens united, that people need to think understand that the supreme court has ruled in favor of,
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corporate spending in politics long before since it's united in the $800.00 s., there was a similar, a supreme court case that ruled that, you know, corporations can spend whatever they want and political campaigns. i think the number one thing we can do is to really establish working class solidarity among working class poor and oppressed people in this country and unite, work together. but i think for our interests, collective interests as well working class the need for a simple war against the ruling class and the and percent of the one percent of the elite. yes. they temper set the one percent. absolutely. control 80 percent of the find that the stock market in this country, but the rest of us, the 99 percent. we absolutely have the power to do everything else. if we do that, and that is the fight that we will continue to fight and that you continue to fight
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german t.v. saying entrenched babysits a man is so those that actually follow the rhythmic pattern versus mine. so you know, so where did they get? that turns out she looked into it. what was happening was that the babies could actually hear their mothers feet in the room during the vietnam war. u.s. forces also bombs neighboring laos. it was a secret war. and for years, the american people did not know the mouth country per capita, human history, millions of unexploded bombs still in danger, lives in this small agricultural country. even
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in a tit for tat move, russia draws up sanctions against france and germany over the alleged nerve poisoning of russia's foreign minister suggests that they have been given a toxin outside the country. we have every reason to believe that what happened to him in terms of chemical warfare agents getting into his body could have happened in germany or on the plane was flown to the charity hospital pro-democrat media outlets try to play down any doubt about the presidential election branding reports about probe into voter fraud misinformation.
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