it's like trying to write a tryst. everybody's already against you. the person has been convicted by a jury. the judge thinks he's guilty. the jury thinks he's guilty. now you have to convince everybody that they're wrong. so your is a case over in a village who has been in prison for 20 years. renee lynch was a case we took about 2 and a half ago, maybe 3 years ago now. and she was accused and convicted of killing her landlord in buffalo, new york in 1900. and it's also obviously a false confession cases. the police are going crazy and they can't solve in 18 months go by. and bernie's connection to the victim was that it was her landlord.

and so they are start looking into renee, who at the time was heavily addicted to drugs crack cocaine. and because she gets arrested for something else and they start interrogating her. and she confesses to killing her landlord with this guy karim. so she says, kareem, and i went to my landlord's house, we were going to rob her. the robbery goes bad and karim stabs her, so it can make it a felony, murder being present during the commission of a crime, and somebody gets killed. we started sort of doing, you know, just regular google searches on the players' names, the detectives and everything. and women behind bars comes up and they've done an episode case where they got in the, in the prison and interviewed her. and then interviewed this choice of law court was the cop on the case. the way her body

we're trying to go in truth. i believe her confession is kind of nonsense. there's inconsistency between the physical evidence and what she says. and during the show, he says, well, i mean we knew that corinne walker was in florida at the time of our crime are going to have kareem was afforded i guess they knew karim walker was in florida at the time, the crime, then rene's confession can't possibly be true because she's confessing to going to rob the landlord with karim and the defense. been able to put that on her confession would have made no sense. but the defense was never told the whole thing is so full of holes and so bogus. i can't put my finger out and say like, you know, this is the thing, but i think if we dug in it, we could find that thing that could get her out because it's all, it's just all of it. so it's messed up. how do they record this confession?

and didn't know, i mean, did they make her a statement? they typed it up and then read it to her and made her so. and so there is a type of confession is the only version of the confession. there's no like original notes they have or something that we have to wonder about. she says, you know, details about the crime scene because they showed her photos of it that she, you know how the body was lying and being shown her those photos. so we'd have to find some kind of new evidence that didn't exist at the time of the trial or didn't, didn't exist, but it wasn't known right. and it wasn't presented during the trial. and if we have to show that if it had been could have been a different outcome, i think we can, but it's going to be hard. our goal is of course to get renee out of prison.

but it continued a really long time. sometimes many years. and one of the 1st things we do in cases like this is to comb through the confession and find all the inconsistency these 2 . clearly show that the confessions there's a cream walker drove me to 90 longmeadow, and the plan was, i was going to go into the front door and cream was going to come up the back door . he was going to tie her up with a piece of white extension cord that he brought with him. at that time, kareem hit louise in the side of the face and louise fell to the floor and kind of went out. if that happened, he would be standing punching her here right here in the face, he knocked the wig off. the wig landed on the floor in the kitchen kitchen. he tried to tie louise up with the plastic or he had then comes from behind. louise

. he stabbed her at least twice. however, we know it's times louise fell to the floor again. it was a large amount of blood on the floor next to her body. so the only thing she gets right is that the witness knocked off. that there's a plastic cord involved in this case. that's correct. and the phone cord is where the extra d.n.a. is just in the is jean fisher byron also in renee lynch's attorney? i have a call with her this morning. oh, good things. oh oh. oh oh oh oh oh,

i think quite well . i know it's hard she testified very incoherent. she was high during the trial, which she was not a good witness for herself. she recanted right away afterwards and her confession is that it was when i talk about this, they're like, well, i would never people say, i've been talking about this for 30 years and that's the 1st thing. but it wouldn't happen today if the person that gives a false confession,

we are all under the circumstance of interrogation. we are all there are trained to who say i can get anybody from any of the boats that they have a 95 percent confession rate. conceivable. unless you're a less perfect the perpetrator, that is every suspect you identify is the perpetrator, right? if you've got a confession rate at that level, you produce a lot of false confessions. when i talked to her about it, she explained to me, i was so shocked. they convicted me, she said, because there was no evidence of a confession so powerful it can stand alone. so here's the jury. on the one hand, they've got the confessions on the other, the confessions, trump, the d.n.a. changes everything. and sometimes on the final product of a confession he would production is described by the police theory of the case is

rehearsed and ready to go. and that's what the jury sees. you don't see the whole production, they just see the final. i don't see how the judge or a jury can look past the conversion. is that or should we have a number of documented cases in which the person who falsely confessed actually came to believe the lie that they were told about their own behavior. which is a whole nother level of insanity. and some of them believe it for a long time afterwards, right here

yet here in the melted thompson case we had he was a danish in turn. who came to danish, he was a college student studying to become, a teacher. and he came in interned at i.p.s., which is really, you know, like a $20000.00, a year preschool up by the un. and it was a code teacher who accuses me of molesting all the kids in the class. and he's on the cover of the daily news. they take his focus, his facebook profile pictures, him with his niece on his shoulders. so they put that on the cover of the daily news and write sex monster. and they go arrest him in the morning and bring him into the station and they have a female cop interrogate him. she tells him while, you know, we have video of you molesting these kids, which they had videos,

but he's not molesting anybody. so they had this woman who accused him, had taken videos of him in the classroom, interacting normally with children. and so either the cops had watched it or they had watched it and were blatantly lying to him, but there was no video of him molesting kids, but he hears that right. and he thinks holy, well, if i'm on video, i must have done it right. they let him continue to believe this lie that he's caught red handed on tape molesting these kids. and i think that, that, you know, he started, you could tell through the hole when they finally are recording him. he's doubting himself. you know, he's, he's wondering, did i do this? join me every thursday on the alex salmond and i'll be speaking to us of the world of politics or business. i'm sure business. i'll see you.

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started? what happened? you know what you know well and remember just had to go down just a few moments about it. and then i had taken its place and playing around to the story of my shorts and you know, short of going forward in that or question what you would call it. and so what, when you say gave him pleasure. i want to time that the central

of it would have to be i don't know, you know, a member of it. it's like there's none of it. if you read out the statement i did, that's your handwriting. and if i am just waiting over briefly, does it look like it's been changed in any way? and that's your signature. i'm sure it is that earlier today you're going to show the camera. i don't even think people in the us really get that the police are allowed to lie to you. i think most people would think that if i am speaking to a police officer, he's telling me the truth. but now to times, i mean in denmark, it's illegal for the police to lie to you. so he really, i think, was, was really says extra susceptible to something like that. it took us filing the

civil rights suit to even get access to these tapes. the district attorney wouldn't give it to us when the criminal case was pending. we asked the court, we moved for a court order to get it. the judge just wouldn't give it to us. but they sat on these tapes for 8 months. he had this case hanging over his head and they knew that there was nothing in the tapes. right. there was the only evidence there was yes, luckily mel to never got convicted right. we were able to stop it before that happened. but it took, i mean, it almost killed him there sexual abuse involving very young children were brought to the attention district attorney's office to thoroughly investigate and involved in the children. particularly in this instance previous film at preschool

ages. and one just missed this case after carol and gather in our extensive investigation. we have to have you know, have you ever seen anybody use like a piece of

a full court to prop up the waves or put it just all the way forward to? i don't know if i have a case where there is a piece of foam cord found inside of a week, why would you have to use it later on your head to give the league a little too for a little weeks if they're flat. because if there is some clue feed, then the hair is not like it's just like a 3 to 4 inches of phone cord. if you

were trying to get permission to test all the old evidence for d.n.a. . but to do that, we have to collect as much information about her innocence as we possibly can. and go back and interview all the witnesses documents, go back to the crime scene. i keep coming back to this thing that the cops knew. he was in florida and kept going with the story that they did together. like why, if they know he's in florida, why don't they like your lives? you're lying to us because he's in, we know he's in florida. why don't they are confronted by hearsay? that how can they be permitted to go forward with a serious of a case that they know is not true. name a trial basically match so that's why the trickery. and the only way to convict somebody of this was to do it that way. yes.

it just makes me so jaded and really disgusted with the district attorney's offices. and i feel like, you know, the, you know, they're supposed to be at the top of the chain right there is supposed to be the ones making sure the cops made mistakes or people below the cops made mistakes. then they're the ones who are responsible for fixing it. why not do d.n.a. testing? think why not? they were all, we're not infallible. we can all make mistakes. why not check? i mean, her name is going to be in prison for the rest of her life. why not just check? you know, they can never answer that question. so you just end up in court with, you know, them opposing your motions for d.n.a. testing and unending ability gating instead of working together. in rene's case, it's especially frustrating because, i mean they certainly believe that this was done. not the stabbing was not done by her. so there is a set the, i mean, they're basically admitting that they have a cold case and there's

a murder out there. and they still don't want to do it. you know, it's did 2 people either 2 people or somebody other than renee, committed that crime. and that person is out and about, and d.n.a. contesting could show who they are, but they're still posing as am you know, the central park jogger case was my 1st interaction with false confessions our firm represented corey wise on his civil rights case way to start i mean, you're diving right into the bed there. you know, the circumstances that play in that case were huge amount of pressure on the police

and the authorities to make arrests and make them step forward. 7 years in prison. with one of the most notorious crimes in the history of new york city, it was a crime in which a woman who was a wealthy upper east side investment banker was out jogging at dusk and was dragged into the woods in central park and almost beaten to death and there was front page news every day, everywhere. and they are out to get arrests and they got him

when you get to the false confessions, in that case it was a classic, you know, mismatch. they were totally overmatched, underrepresented, if represented at all. i don't know what could the core even have anyone in the room without his consent is 16, so he was considered an adult, sadly. and so his mom was not allowed in there and they, you know, had given the lawyers, they all waived their miranda rights. where you live, chris says that it's this is very, very serious in this neighborhood. we don't care or is there a

way to use an example. we need to say after seeing this picture is i'm sure you can see where this point is. it is hard for people to understand how this can help produce a confession, something they did to end. your really is a complicated set of stories. there is no one reason you know. corey, why is confessed to get out of this bad situation. he was under pressure from many, many hours. he was likely be told that others were giving stories and that to, to cooperate or to go home. and it is very telling in the central park 5 case that

every one of them, every one of the boys and every one of the parents who were present were surprised . the boys were arrested after their statements. every one of the time i was going home, right? well, you know what, that sounds crazy right here. thought you were gone or confess to a rape and go home. right. but you know that one false confessors were interviewed afterward, and they've been exonerated. and the 1st question, everybody wants those. i don't understand why don't you confirm the most typical response? because i want to go home. innocent people often say after wards, you know, i was so tired, i was so stressed. i figured let's sign this confession. it'll all work itself out, . in the end. the detectives often say, you know, we have d.n.a., we're going to send them to the lab. they think that claiming they have t.n.a. law is a way to scare the criminal into submission. they may be right, but if the person you're talking to is not the criminal but an innocent person,

then the law becomes a promise of future exoneration. doc's plea makes it easier to contrasts. let him say, we're going to do some tests. we're actually quite samples from a lot if i just let you know that if we do that, we will probably get an order to take a sample from you. and then we'll compare it to tests because you're in this issue now where if you know that there's going to be a match, you better off. tell us about it now. instead of saying something that's natural history, one of the things i think they made you say was that you cut her out of the legs. where did you, how did you come up with that? i don't know. came from no, i don't know. she had made it up, i don't know where it came from. i don't know

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