tv Cross Talk RT November 16, 2020 6:30am-7:01am EST
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anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. ok, i was going to budapest, george trump, maybe if he's not inaugurated again in january. i be fighting the last battle of his term in office here, and it's with the pentagon. it's with the generals here. and i think it's being under played very much in the media. this is a very serious business right now. he's made it in fat, equally clear that isn't ministration. will pull out troops from, from afghanistan, possibly also from syria. and it's, i find it quite odd that we keep hearing from the liberal media that trump may resort to a coup to stay in power. well, looks to me that the pentagon and the national security state is committing a coup against trump in the last months of busy residency by not obeying direct orders from the commander in chief. this is serious business. go ahead, george. it is extremely serious because he is the commander in chief and he has
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a right and the duty to implement his policy. and what we're getting is that they're venting is explicitly just ignoring the instructions from the commander in chief. so we get in afghanistan in which the united states has actually signed an agreement with the taliban, committing itself to withdrawing by early next year. and the pentagon decide whether or not that i'm not going to implement this policy. they're going to condition it on what the military regards as the situation on the ground. even though there's nothing in the agreement with the taliban in which the departure of the americans is condition on the situation on the ground. the only situation that the united states deem as a deal breaker is if the taliban is attacking us,
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or if the taliban is cooperating with isis or ok, there is no evidence of started on it doing any of that. but nonetheless, the military is ignoring the president and the same thing is happening in syria where we learned the other day from jim jeffrey, who was the trumpet ministration point man on syria. that basically has been lying to the president. he has been misleading the president just of the actual troop numbers in syria, and although it was going to get about 200 forces there, i don't doubt that if you know it's at least 900 maybe even more off. and what is so shocking about all of this is that he was very proud of having misled the president and the media were clapping and cheering. oh, this is wonderful. that there's the deep state or who, or the national security state, is simply misleading to the elected commander in chief. so it is very troubling, as you know, given in just a little in what george just said there. i mean, and there's no consequences for obstructing your your superior the commander in
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chief here. i mean, 8 this, i, jeffrey's character, i mean, they applauded him because he out we did that, the president of the united states, under any other president. this would be serious charges here. not only would you be him use humiliated, you would probably be barred from working in the national security, say ever again. and i don't know, there may be even legal issues and play here. but just the opposite here that sharing this year, i've said from the beginning of the term presidency up this resistance opposition to the president. when in the government is destroying institutions. and one of the most sacred institutions we have is as the civilian control of the military. go ahead. yes. in fact, one where i am in no orks suspiciously like military control or 46 because generals oh, i just commanded the nato forces in,
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in europe. he is now in the 20 council. he is now advising, you know, the us foreign policy. i'm sure if you will gain more importance on the tramp. and ben, one just has just recently sat that we should include georgia in nato. now, when everyone understands what kind of course sequences may have, he said that with ukraine we can postpone it somewhat. but again, you know, ukraine would be the right of the stove. the red lines, you know, for russia. so these people are dangerous, and trump replaced for defense secretary during his term. so it's not the lack or constitutional power since the fact that they're all against, you know, there is an ideology against your, not just a few misbehaving generals. and what is, especially troubling is the weight is presented, not only in that many can be brought media, but in the european media,
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the european media presents us as trump is going to have a clue before he leaves office. you know, he fired that excellent defense secretary. he fired the chief of music intelligence . he's up to something terrible, you know, and they, the problem is that they get so lost us from the night, you know, the united states, you know, i guess bigger magazine in germany has just published a big interview with james stavridis. the former commander or nato forces in europe and change the ranges says, trump is unpredictable. he isn't bitter and frustrated. he can do anything, he can attack iran, know he can send the u.s. warships to the waters near china and provoke a war there. you know, what is amazing about these ultra liberal generals is that whatever trumps does is bad, you know, he, in syria, they, they, if you,
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i'm all for putting out the troops and leaving the oil to russians or, you know, train your, how could you, friends, you know hand, you know, worse, you know, encroaching on syrian territory would tend to just recently and the united states was quite been, you know, when turkey and on the nato always openly intervened in syria. you know, it just bossing the border sometimes. so how can they have insurgents inside syria and that was fine. and suddenly when trump, you know, had an agreement without a gun, they said, oh, this is against syrian territorial integrity. so there is no one pick with these guys. you know, they are all be as knee, they hate trial. if someone is frustrated that unpredictable. this is them. and that, and the, and the way it is played out in the european press is just shameless. you know, it's shameless saying that that trump wants to have a coup when you have generals openly disobey him. he'll albany and being, you know,
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the, i do always general be elected thought, you know, 200 these generals are. and these neo cons are more concerned with the syrian sovereignty in borders than american borders or you know, deep demas and something they think it's really important here is that trump is deemed to be unpredictable. you know, what is predictable is the reaction to trump in this neo cons in their approach to security policy around the world. they're very, very predictable and that's why they're so dangerous, and there is no control on them. and particularly, and will stop about in the 2nd part of the program under the biden ministries. and this is tell us every tells us everything we know this is, it really has nothing to do with party affiliation. it's that you have these deep state characters. they determine what national security policy is. it's irrelevant to the president is. yes, exactly, because if you remember during the latter days of the obama administration,
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this isn't crumples obama administration when the junk kerry and sergey lavrov signed an agreement that the united states and russia would jointly conduct military operations against isis within hours of the signing of the agreement, the us military launched an attack against the syrian military by these isis to get the syrian military. and of course, because this letter is serious, guys will tease their grievance was not on board of the russians the so furious about this. so this was a clear act of sabotage that was basically said, we don't agree with this policy of cooperating with the russians or so we will sabotage this. and so while that's what we have here, i mean the, the edge of the side that we will maintain a military presence in perpetuity everywhere where we are at the moment. and we are, you know, who view and if you jet military missions. so anything that the president does when
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he says we need to withdraw, we will sabotage. we will equal some of the stories in the, in the media tell, tell the media what they want to hear. trump is erratic, trump is insane. trump is not assisting trump and doesn't have any understanding about strategy. and therefore, you know, we just create the atmosphere in which any withdrawal becomes out of the question because it's either assuaging insane ego or worst of all helping the kremlin. and we know the links that when the kremlin and trump, so these people are really very, very dangerous. and should have been cut down to size many, many years ago. you know, that ever since the law and get going into the iraq war. but you know, all those people they filled up were apparently ok if you could, you can be wrong, but it doesn't hurt your c.v. and your future prospects. you know, do you mean it's,
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it's been widely rumored that trump may, or he's considering a run for the presidency and 2024 what he does not last few months of this term is time in the, in the, in the white house could be determinant because this is a very important promise he made in 2016 just end these wars here is within his grasp to do it. all that there's an array of forces against him to stop it, which we've already alluded to here. but this is very important to him just because, you know, he has been defeated by the deep state. i think we have to all agree that. ok, this is his chance to go out and blazing lori to say i did this and that is a message to his base because it's going to be a rocky 4 years. well, i think if he is smart, he is going to repeat all the time. i was the 1st president in 30 years, who didn't stop a scene when you war. but it will be very difficult for him to reach the people
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because all the media saying exactly the opposite. you know, the media saying we're going to be back to the good old days. you know, we're going to back just to beat it, you know, without bombay years, which stability a bomb up started several wars or at least he made them watch more dangerous and, and bloddy. and then they could be, you know, in levy if he, he intervened. and this is a civil war still continuing in syria, he intervened on the side of the force us, which lost and which almost ruined the concrete in ukraine. he changed the regime and the situation is still very dangerous. so when people talk about stability and about experience diplomats or collegian. yes, that's just ludicrous, you know. and all that bombing years. and it's very important talking about the
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generals. i think ray mcgovern was right to pay attention to what john brennan had to say. john brennan told m.s.n. b.c. the hoax. a ridiculous you pick a show intelligence in order to further trumps political interests is going to take place. again, promise of predictable. he's going to do something terrible. yes, he may feel the u.s. constitution and expose. well, i'm sorry, your murderous because john brooks was there also all that gold getting program and of the enemy is the joy of reading. prided himself on the night in new york times when trump wants his transparency and the left and the media are against that. all right, gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that show break, we'll continue our discussion and the future for host united states. stay for,
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day or thinks we dare to ask was always on the bull, but the most rational, big city bright lights. you jump, but you know, g.'s and many dangers in the blood of the little insoles of a city when up 230-0000 crimes are committed every going to before the last living. but it will be your most needs filled to the reserved least one police officer for every 200, the president's in russia's capital cost on the wish. i didn't use last. we all thought there was a little truth to the one of the little boy school. but
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it was a cool way into the school. welcome back to cross town where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle remind you we're talking about a possible by foreign policy. ok . let's go back to george in budapest, and george, i'm not in the habit of reading a joe biden's tweets, but he did have to say this and we're talking about a future up potentially future or in policy. when i am speaking to foreign leaders, i am telling them america is back. we're going to be back in the game. what do you take? what's your take away from that? because it gives me dark for voting. go ahead,
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george. whether dr. bowden is the very, just if i have, i'm assuming that what he means is they're waiting to go back to the interventionism of the clintons and bush or obama. which means that wherever there is any kind of a conflict or any potential for conflict, america will be there to stoke the fires and make sure that the conflict intensifies and the killing will stop. and then american pose as the intervenor against the bad guys will a peace maker or whatever. i think that's been the model all the last couple of decades and it's very lucrative. george, it's a very lucrative model, very lucrative. exactly. something to do that you leave the administration, you've got a nice consultancy gig with a think tank over the military hardware, a producer, and you know, you have lots and lots and lots of government jobs. so we can already see,
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you know, maybe now there's been as a success on the part of trump in avoiding getting involved in the ongoing civil war in libya. i think, you know, you can be absolutely certain that the bike ministration will get itself involved in the, in the civil war in libya, syria, already and in a blink in who's like, you have a very senior position within the byte ministration. as he's already said, that he intends to remain you the war against bashar al assad overthrow him. so that means we'll be back to sponsoring isis and al-qaeda and everything the america been doing during the obama years. ukraine, ukraine is he wants to do more in more ways than one. exactly. it is that he wants to justify the 2014 coup, organized by obama and biden. and then of course,
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biden's lucrative career subsequently there. and i was a thing in the leg or in a car about situation is still unstable, and biden, the ministration will get itself sucked into that one as well. and i'm sure there are others that people can mention where the biden will become active. well, it's a lot of running the world. ok, and human tell me what your thoughts are and things that you've heard of a potential by foreign policy as it relates to russia. my, the way i have looked at it for, for 2 decades now, is that the kremlin has prepared for anyone that goes into the white house because it's basically being prepared for the worst. and that it's been a realistic approach. what it, well maybe just a small correction toward jordan just said, i'm not sure i would say that the united states often directly isis or al qaeda.
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but certainly the united states helped the forces which had the same ideology. bottled up money could trickle to the most radical groups. i mean, look at syria. when did isis appear in 2013? right after it became apparent that that a bomb would not get here. but i think in positions, if it's part of the historical record, the united states officials in the united states knew, with this weaponry was going and you know, this money was going, it's very end of the out. it ended up in defense, all of them or straight to go for us. you're absolutely right, but i think it's very important to mention here that when during the terrorist acts in europe, we hear about the people who perpetrated these acts and they were active in syria, the u.s. media, the western media in general, always reports of talk as if she's 3 started in 2016 when the, their so-called islamic state official just out of to function in syria. when of
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course these people were active and they're also there, you know, before the, i mean, official launch an all dices. there are groups with the same ideology or pursuing the same agenda. they just didn't call themselves isis. it wasn't a hope americans would do their job for them won't be no resistance. so i agree, absolutely. with what george just said, and what you said, these policies are going to be more aggressive because trump was just an american nationalist, unpleasant, cruel, you know, radia for cruelty. but he was, he wasn't ideological, you know, or his ideology was very simple. you know, i know israel, i support israel, i don't know we're on. i think we should, while we're on, you know, i think war, the deep state was so much opposed to trump, that they didn't go along with his idea or take in iraq. and now it's just very fine to see how james to regis is sane or trump is dangerous. you mad?
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they could rendezvous? have i want you to pull constantly since in 2001, obama, paul, and of the same idea. there were no doubts about it. you know, people against the brain just said, oh yes, yes, we should do something about iran and there was no problem. but you remember how people were actually to emigrate in from iran joined there by john and other places because they were afraid of american strikes. huge american strikes coming, but i think what is very dangerous is the escalation in ukraine. and here i would like to point your attention to the article in the, you know, american conservative ukraine spiral, play in minsk by mark, compress. you know, the author writes quite right in that biden instance the, it is polish, the polish overall bake against russia, including for the media cream. but the author writes, i think wrongly, that until now, this aide was defensive, how he may bite and may push ukraine to feel what
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ukrainians, the something authorities themselves call gratian scenario, just like croatian financial scenario you find georgians. what's really interesting is that, well, there is a going from the united states to ukraine, i mean, and trump got impeached over it. apparently, what's really interesting to me is that the president of ukraine, because of the situation on the ground, was having to have to think about some kind of reconciliation with russia. and he can go through different sectors, bit like energy. for example, after all of this, crane's biggest trading partner remains russia here. now, there are certainly those where they came to power after the coup and in 2014, they want a much more striking policy and biden's people want to. the reason i'm pointing this out is that left alone in the reconciliation and simmering down accompli can
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happen when you have an outside power like the united states. we can look at libya, we can look at syria, we can look at afghanistan, iraq and the ukraine. this is what i mean, what i meant in my introduction, you know, thinking up where obama left off or head toward. yes, that's exactly right, because russia's made clear that he has no interest in and next thing, any ukrainian terrorists or those who are living in the nets, then no real hope of being incorporated within russia. so the only thing that the russians insist on is the special status for these, these 2 provinces that kiev hasn't really made any moves towards achieving that. and this is as keeps the conflict going now with biden. there they view things as a 0 sum game. if they get, if they heat up the conflict in ukraine, some kind of
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a new offensive against the donetsk and lugansk for them. it's a win win. you know, it's, i either don't know, it's going to guns are defeated, which is unlikely, are, or russia is drawn into the conflict, which means russia and ukraine are at loggerheads. and it's a, it's a real headache for the russians because it's a, it's a, it's a serious military conflict between 2 brothers nations and their former. yeah. and they are in, on the border. exactly. so they don't really care about ukrainians. they just see it as a 0 sum game that is bad for russia, and that's the mentality of these people. that's why they are very dangerous because their own ethan's own is, let's make life as difficult as possible for russia. let, let's have them stop them into all kinds of conflict which then makes them gives them headaches, may cause instability within russia. and that's
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a very dangerous game to play. because we really don't know, you know, the how easy you know, how easily such situations going to get out of control. you know, you know, it seems to me, in the left, in the united states have not learned the lesson. they just never had an autopsy of why hillary clinton lost one of the reasons why she lost is the unpopularity of foreign wars, endless wars. and i would throw in interventions. and there's meddling, as george just described, who is when it comes to ukraine. they haven't learned a lesson and you know what, these neo cons and deep sea players, they're quite happy with that. ok. because they can continue down the path of their ideological obsessions and russia is one of them. and of course, china is getting higher and higher on the menu, go ahead. well, you are right. you know, even that 82 of or joe biden 2 or more than 70000000 people who voted for trump. he didn't have anything to tell them except i also lost
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a few times in my life. you know, he didn't say or we're going to correct the portion probably we did something wrong before 2016. why are there still may no you who he was here. i mean, your, he was an o.e. back to warfare. ok. i'm going to go to, you know, was that part of the campaign? george was it ever mentioned during the general campaign about supporting endless wars? i don't, i don't remember it coming up is just the opposite. during the democratic convention, they brought out all of these neo cons, cheering a failed foreign policy. ok? because i say failed because the american people voted against it in 3 election cycles, they voted against war. ok. what i'm saying is there's just this huge disconnect here, george, i'll give you the last 30 seconds. yes. not less, right? that's what you get with the biden scene. and the,
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there's the standard interventionism. and this is a rebuttal. hold by a political career has been about i will remember from the 1990 s. when he was an absolutely implacable advocate for bombing yugoslavia. he was an odd supporter of the you didn't just both baber of the iraq war. he was in rooms who was the out there and then yeah, the americans say, well, i think we shouldn't politician iraq as if it's within the current rip. we're almost out of town here. so, and i'm here of former secretary of defense, robert gates and about joe biden. every, every policy stance he took are on foreign policy was wrong. we'll probably find that once as all the time we have want to guess and budapest and musk on one thing, our viewers, they're watching us here are you see you next time. remember is
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