foreign policy pick up where obama left off. will the neo cons? again, be back in control. to discuss this and more, i'm joined by my guest, george samueli in budapest, he's an author and a you tuber apa gabble. and in moscow, i'm joined by dmitri. he is a political analyst and editor, and you know smee internet media project. all right, gentlemen crossed up rules in effect, that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i always appreciate, ok, i was going to budapest, george trump, maybe if he's not inaugurated again in january. would be fighting the last battle of his term in office here. and it's with the pentagon. it's with the generals here . and i think it's being under played very much in the media. this is a very serious business right now. he's made it in phatic. lee clear that isn't ministration. will pull out troops from, from afghanistan,

possibly also from syria. and it's, i find it quite odd that we keep hearing from the liberal media that trump may resort to a coup to stay in power. well, looks to me that the pentagon, the national security state, is committing a coup against trump in the last months of his residency by not obeying direct orders from the commander in chief, this is serious business. go ahead, george. it is straight. is serious because he is the commander in chief and he has a right to duty to implement his policy. and what we're getting is that the pentagon is explicitly just ignoring the instructions from the commander in chief. so we get in afghanistan, in which the united states has actually signed an agreement with it,

committing itself to withdrawing by early next year. and the pentagon decide whether or not that i'm not going to implement this policy. they're going to condition it on what the military regards as the situation on the ground. even though there's nothing in the agreement with the taliban in which the departure of the americans is condition on the situation on the ground. the only situation that the united states deem as a deal breaker is if the taliban is attacking u.s. forces, or if the taliban is cooperating with isis or ok, there is no evidence of taliban is doing any of that. but nonetheless, the military is ignoring the president and the same thing is happening in syria where we learned the other day from jim jeffrey, who was the trumpet ministration point man on syria. that basically has been lying to the president. he has been misleading the president just of the actual troop

numbers in syria. and although we're going to get about $200.00 forces there, i don't doubt that if you know it's at least $900.00, maybe even more often. and what is so shocking about all of this is that he was very proud of having misled the president and the media were clapping and cheering . oh, this is wonderful. that there's the deep state who all the national security state is simply misleading. the elected commander in chief, so it is very troubling, as you know, given in just a little into what george just said there. i mean, and there's no consequences for obstructing your your superior the commander in chief here. i mean, if this i jeffrey's character, i mean, they applauded him because he out with the president of the united states under any other president. this would be serious charges here. not only would you be him, you've humiliated you would probably be barred from working in the national securities they ever again. and i don't know, maybe even legal issues and play here. but just the opposite here that sharing this

year, i've said from the beginning of the term presidency. this resistance opposition to the president when in the government is destroying institutions. and one of the most sacred institutions we have is as the civilian control of the military, go ahead. yes, and in fact one where i am in no suspiciously like military control, all 46 because generals, for example, just for command and the nato forces in, in europe. he is now in that 20 council. he is now advising, you know, their us foreign policy. i'm sure he will gain more importance on the trump. and ben, one just has just recently sat that we should include georgia in nato know where everyone understands what kind of course it was a step may have. he said that with ukraine, we can postpone it somewhat, but again,

you know, ukraine would be the reddest of the red lines, you know, for russia. so these people, again, jurist and trump replaced for defense secretaries during his term. so it's not the lack of institutional policies, the fact that they are all against, you know, there is an idea. what would you against, you know, just if you misbehaving generals, and what is it specially troubling is the weight is presented not only in the american be bro media, but in the european media. the european media presents us as trump is going to have a coup before he leaves office, you know, he fired that accident. defense secretary, he fired the chief of meta, dream, dead of johns. he's up to something terrible, you know, and they, the problem is that they get source us from the night in the united states. you know, i guess bigger magazine in germany has just, obviously beginning to be or with the james stavridis. the former commando or nato

forces in europe and james, the range, assess, trump, is unpredictable. he's in bigot and frustrated. he can do anything he can at that point. you run know, he can send the u.s. warships to the waters near china and provoke a war there. you know, what is, and maybe you know about these ultra liberal generals is that whatever trumps das is bad, you know, he, in syria, they, they accused him of putting out the troops and leaving the oil to russians. or, you know, train the israeli. how could you, friends, you know, and, you know, of course, you know, encroaching on syrian territory would generate you? well just recently the united states was glad been, you know, when turkey and on the powers actually openly intervened in syria.

you know, it just bossing the border sometimes beyond their insurgence inside syria and that was fine. and suddenly when trump, you know, had an agreement without a gun, they said, oh, this is against syrian territory integrity. so there is no one pick with these guys . you know, they are all be as nice. they hate. if someone is frustrated that unpredictable, this is them. and that, and the end, the way it is played out in the european press is just shameless. you know, it's shameless saying that that trump wants to have a coup when you have generals openly disobey him. he'll albany a big you know, the, i do always end up the elected thought, you know, 200 these generals are, and these neo cons are more concerned with syrian sovereignty in borders than american borders or, you know, deep the missing something they think it's really important here is that trump is deemed to be unpredictable. you know, what is predictable, is the reaction to trump in this neo cons in their approach to security policy

around the world. they're very, very predictable and that's why they're so dangerous, and there is no control on them. and particularly, it will stop about in the 2nd part of the program under a biden ministries. and this is tell us every tells us everything. we know that this is, it really has nothing to do with party affiliation. it's that you have these deep state characters. they determine what national security policy is. it's irrelevant to the president as. yes, exactly, because if you remember during the latter days of the obama administration, this isn't crumples obama administration when the junk kerry and sergey lavrov signed an agreement that the united states and russia would jointly conduct military operations against isis within hours of the signing of the agreement the us military launched an attack against the syrian military by these isis to get the

syrian military. and of course, because this led to a serious guy shot is there greenland was not on board of the russians the so furious about this. so this was a clear act of sabotage. the military there was basically said, we don't agree with this policy of cooperating with the russians or so we will sabotage this. and so while that's what we have here, i mean the, the edge of decide that we will maintain a military presence in perpetuity everywhere where we are at the moment. and we are, you know, who view and in future military missions. so anything that the president does when he says we need to withdraw, we will sabotage. we will equal some of the stories in the, in the media tell, tell the media what they want to hear. trump is erratic, trump is insane. trump is not assisting trump and doesn't have any understanding about strategy. and therefore, you know, we just create the atmosphere in which any with the are all the guns out of the

question because it's either assuaging insane ego all the whole helping the kremlin. and we know the links that when the kremlin and from so these people are ready, very, very dangerous. and should have been cut down to size many, many years ago. you know, that ever since the law and going into the iraq war. but, you know, all of those people they failed up were apparently ok if you could, you can be wrong, but it doesn't hurt your c.v. and your future prospects. you know, demon it's, it's been widely rumored that trump may or he's considering a run for the presidency in 2024 what he does not last few months. this term is time in the, in the, in the white house could be determinant because this is a very important promise he made in 2016 just in these wars here is within his grasp to do it. all that there's an array of forces against him to stop it,

which we've already alluded to here. but this is very important to him just because, you know, he has been defeated by the deep state. i think we have to all admit that. ok, this is his chance to go out and blazing lori to say i did this and that is a message to his base because it's going to be a rocky 4 years. well, our think if he is smart, he is going to repeat all the time. i was the 1st president in 30 years, who didn't start a single new war, but it will be very difficult for him to reach the people because all the media saying exactly the opposite. you know, the media thing. we're going to be back to the good old days. you know, we're going to get back to stability over the obama years, which the ability of bamma started several wars or at least he made the march more dangerous and bloddy than they could be. you know, in leaving, he,

he intervened and this is civil hoists. still continuing. in syria, he intervened on the side of the forces which lost and which almost ruined because entry into crane. he changed the regime and the situation is still very dangerous. so when people talk about stability and about experience diplomats or, or clinton years, those are just ludicrous you know, and of the obama years. and it's very important talking about the generals. i think ray mcgovern was right to pay attention to what john brennan had to say. john brennan told m.s.n. b.c. that wholesale dickless if it takes the intelligence in order to further wrongs. political interest is going to take place again, trial because of predictable. he's going to do something terrible. yes, he may fulfill the u.s. constitution and expose. well, i'm sorry your word us because john brennan was there also. all that gold you can

program. and of the enemy is the john brennan prided himself on that. the new york times when trump wanted transparency and a less media are again, all right, gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to short break and have to bench, or bring in awareness question and a future for united states. well the demick no, certainly no borders and islam to nationalities has emerged with the we don't look like world peace to people judge a common cause to sleep. we can do

better. we should everyone is contributing major own way. but we also know that this crisis not go on forever. the challenge is creating, the response has been masked. so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we're in it together. there's a lot on the statue of big city, bright lights, you joke, but you know g.'s and many dangers that the poor players are going to do. it's also a city where up to $300000.00 crimes are committed every year for the last one. but it will be your most, it's still true. there was a police one police officer effectively $200.00 residents in russia's capital cost

on law. wish i didn't, you know what they say to me, that they will not go with it when it was a big deal with them to most welcome back to cross town where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle remind you we're talking about a possible by foreign policy. ok let's go back to george in budapest, george, i'm not in the habit of reading a joe biden's tweets, but he did have to say this and we're talking about a future up potentially future or. and when i am speaking to foreign leaders, i am telling them america is back. we're going to be back in the game. what do you

take? what's your take away from now? because that gives me dark for voting. whether dr. bowden is of very just if i have, i'm assuming that what he means is that we're going to go back to the interventionism of the clintons and bush obama years, which means that wherever there is any kind of a conflict or any potential account, america will be said to stoke the fires and make sure that the conflict intensifies and the killing will start. and then america can pose as their intervenor against the bad guys will appease whatever i think that's been the model of the last couple of decades and they can very lucrative. george, it's a very lucrative model, very lucrative, exactly. something to do for us after you leave the administration, you got a nice consultancy gig with

a think tank over the military hardware and produce and you know, you have our law, so lots and lots of government jobs. so we can already see, you know, libya now there's been a success on the part of trump in avoiding getting involved in the ongoing civil war in libya. i, you know, you can be absolutely certain that the by demonstration will get itself involved in the, in the civil war in libya, syria, already and in the blink, in who's like, you have a very senior position within the biden in this direction, as he's already said, that he intends to remain you the war against al assad overthrow him. so that means we'll be back to sponsoring isis and al qaeda and everything is america been doing during the obama is ukraine? ukraine is biden's baby wake. he wants to ignore it in more ways. than one and one

exactly is certain he wants to justify the 2014 coup, organized. 'd by obama and biden, and then of course, biden's lucrative career. subsequently, if there as i was a single leg or no care about situation, still unstable and biden the station will get itself into that one as well. and i'm sure there are others that people can mention where the biden will become as well. it's a lot to hear around the world. ok, and human tell me what your thoughts are and things that you've heard of. a potential by foreign policy, as it relates to russia, might the way i have looked at it for 2 decades now is that the kremlin is prepared for anyone that goes into the white house because it's basically being prepared for the worst. and that it's been a realistic approach. what are your well, maybe just

a small correction toward jordan just said, i'm not sure i would say that the united states also directly isis or al qaeda. but shouldn't the united states helped the forces which had the same ideology, bottled up money could trickle to the most radical groups? i mean, look at syria. when did isis appear in 2013? right after it became apparent that that obama would not get more. but i think in positions, if it's part of the historical record, the united states officials in the united states knew, with this weaponry, was going into this money was going very badly. it ended the out, it ended up in defense, all of them or straight to go for us. you're absolutely right. but i think it's very important to mention here that when during the terrorist acts in europe, we hear about the people who perpetrated these acts and they were active in syria. the us media and the western media in general,

always reports of talk as if history started in 2013 when the, their so-called islamic state official just out of to function in syria. and of course these people who are active in there are also there, you know, before the, i mean, official launch and all dices. there were groups with the same ideology or pursuing the same agenda. they just didn't call themselves isis. it was the whole americans would do their job for them won't be no resistance. so i agree absolutely. with what george just said that what you say the sports is going to be more aggressive because trump was just an american nationalist, unpleasant, cruel. you know, radio for cruelty, but he wasn't, he wasn't ideological. you know, his ideology was very simple. you know, i know israel, i support israel. i don't know. iran, i think we should bomb iran, you know, but i think was the deep state was so much opposed to trump,

that they didn't go along with his idea overtaking iraq. and now it's just very fine to see how james the regis is sane or trump is dangerous. he may take iran that will have a number of useable consequences. in 2000, they're going to bomb a point of the same idea. there were no doubts about it. you know, people just the bridges said, oh yes, yes, we should do something about iran and there was no problem. but you remember how people were actually to emigrate in from iran, joined there by john and other places because they were afraid of american strikes . huge american strikes, but i think what is very dangerous is the escalation in ukraine. and here i would like to point your attention to the article in the american conservative ukraine spa, locally in minsk, by mark the peacekeepers. you know, the author writes, quite rightly in the biden, chris consistently espoused a polish overall back against russia, including the military aid to ukraine. but daughter writes, i think wrongly,

that until now this aid was defensive. and now he may bite and may push ukraine to do to feel what the ukrainians themself. authorities themselves are all creation scenario just like creation. you know, you know, you find 2 handsome horizon. and georgian troops, really interesting is that while there is going from the united states to ukraine, i mean, interim got impeached over it. apparently, what's really interesting to me is that the president of ukraine, because of the situation on the ground, was having to have to think about some kind of reconciliation with russia. and he can go through different sectors, bit like energy. for example, after all of this, crane's biggest trading partner remains russia here, now of their own. certainly in those they came to power after the coup and

in 2014, they want a much more striking policy and by people want to. then the reason i'm pointing this out is that lift alone in the reconciliation and simmering down accompli can happen when you have an outside power like the united states. we can look at libya, we can look at syria, we can look at afghanistan, iraq, and the ukraine. this is what i mean. what i meant in my introduction, you know, pointing out where obama left go ahead. yes, that's exactly right, because russia's made clear that he has no interest in and next thing, any ukrainian territory. so those who are living in the nets then no real hope of being incorporated within russia. so the only thing that the russians insist on is the special status for these, these 2 provinces. now that kiev hasn't really made any moves towards achieving that, and this is as keeps the conflict going now with biden team. there they view things

as a 0 sum game. if they get, if they heat up the conflict in ukraine, some kind of a new offensive against the donetsk and lugansk for them. it's a win win. you know, it's, i either don't, it's going to defeat it, which is unlikely, are, or russia is drawn into the conflict, which means russia and ukraine are at loggerheads. and it's a, it's a room, a headache for the russians because it's a, it's a, it's a serious military conflict between 2 brother nations and their former. yeah. and they are in, on the border. exactly. so they don't really care about ukrainians. they just see it as a 0 sum game that is bad for russia, and that's the mentality of these people. that's why they are very dangerous because their own ethan's own is, let's make life as difficult as possible for russia. let,

let's have them suck them into all kinds of conflict which then makes them gives them headaches, may cause instability within russia. and that's a very dangerous game to play. because we really don't know, he, you know, the how, how easy, you know, how easily such situations going to get out of control. you know, the argument, you know, it seems to me, in the left, in the united states have not learned the lesson. they just never had an autopsy of why the reason lost one of the reasons why she lost is the unpopularity of foreign wars, endless wars. and i would go in interventions on this meddling as george just described, who is when it comes to ukraine. they haven't learned a lesson and you know what, these neo cons and deep sea players, they're quite happy with that. ok. because they can continue down the path of their ideological obsessions and russia is one of them. and of course, china is getting higher and higher on the menu, go ahead. well,

you are right. you know, even that 82 of or joe biden will more than 70000000 people home or want it for trump. he didn't have anything to tell them except i also lost a few times in my life. you know, he didn't say or we're going to correct the politician. probably we did something wrong before 2016. why are there still may know of you who he was here and not of your he was an o.e. back to warfare again. absolutely. you know, was that part of the campaign? george was it ever mentioned during the general campaign about supporting endless wars? i don't, i don't remember it coming up is missing. just the opposite. during the democratic convention, they brought out all of these neo cons, cheering a field of foreign policy. ok, because i say failed because the american people voted against it in 3 election cycles. they voted against war. ok. and what i'm saying is there's just this

huge disconnect here. george. i'll give you the last 30 seconds. yes. that's right . that's what you get with the biden scene, and there's the standard interventionism, and this is a rebuttal to hold by a political career has been about. i will remember him from the 1990 s. when he was an absolutely implacable advocate bombing yugoslavia. he was a od and a supporter of the even just both in favor of the iraq war. he was in rooms, who was he as well there. and then yeah, the americans say, wow, i think we're sure. iraq, as if it's within the current rip ramos, out of town here. so, and i'm here of former secretary of defense robert gates said about joe biden. every, every policy stance he took on foreign policy was wrong, will probably find that us as all the time we have what i think my guess would have been and must go on when think of us there watching as your r.p.c.

next time. remember when i was still seemed wrong, but i'll roll. just don't hold any world yet to see how it just comes down to and it gets written because the trail once again and find themselves worlds apart. just of the common ground. during the vietnam war, u.s. forces also bombs neighboring laos. it was a secret war. and for years the american people did not know how so much that is especially the most heavily bombed country, per capita. human history,

millions of unexploded bombs still in danger lives in this small agricultural country. jordyn we have been going to continue to happen and then even today kids in los full victims of bombs dropped decades ago. is the u.s. making amends for that tragedy. and what help to the people need in that little land of mines. a new gold rush is underway and thousands of ill equipped workers are flocking to the gold fields, hoping to strike it. rich is a good day over the children are torn between gold from me was very poor. i thought i was doing my best to get back to school. which side will have the strongest appeal?

most believe the peacekeeping mission in borno care about after brokering a ceasefire between armenia and azerbaijan, our correspondent had to the former front line in the region while russian tough now the station meanwhile, displaced onto the new deal. all media is forced out of areas. now, under the control of azerbaijan, tat talent and groups that hope, they say they don't want to need them for what they see as the enemy. we had a good life here. now we are tearing down the houses we built are. so i know one thing for sure, i wouldn't even want my enemy to find himself in a situation like this. it is very hard, but we do not have any other choice. if i didn't already picking his team to start the white house up.