we can only transmit video or audio or text files. now imagine a future where actually it can do something for the unit. wouldn't that be great? and that includes also the touch. interesting to watch. you know, we do that with that haptic gloves. there's quite a bit of evidence on the internet on this, how i use that. and we apply that for instance, in broad except jury is one of the applications where a surgeon would do the robotic surgery remotely. and would use a have to glove to feel what he or she is actually, you know, agree with your operation. so we see a lot of potential is there, but you need other equipment apart from that very powerful 5 g. network. but how long till we all have tech talent in our homes? so that depends really on the each country. so 1st of all, of course the regulation needs to be favorable, the spectrum needs to be released. so 5 g. will look work without, you know, do it direct spectrum and place. then the investment needs to be in place because

the 4 g. equipment needs to be upgraded to 5 g. . and then the consumer appetite in the industry appetite needs to be ready. so we see, you know, different phases. in asia, for instance, we see the regulatory framework very, very favorable, investment federal and consumers generally take it up very quickly. so there we will probably buy 2023. we will have a fair and consistent, well average, you know, 5 g. technology in the u.k. . it's a little bit later so you know, i 2025 probably will have a very consistent rollout now of you know, fool full if they are the possum to well, we'll need to see great depends on this relationship between the 3 factis. well, i understand you're more focused on the technical side of things, but being able to not just see your visa, but also like touch them despite being thousands of miles apart. how we'll do is transformed human communication. i guess what i'm asking is, how will the virtual version of face to face or hand to hand actually compete with

their real life experience and real people? that's a great question and i personally believe there will be a shift 3 and i have experienced that myself. so i gave the world's 1st 5 g. concert where i was playing piano on the rubble or touring berlin and my daughter. she was singing in london in the guild hall, and we were separated by a 1000 kilometer this. and yet 5 g. brought us together within a few milliseconds. and it felt as if she was with me. and that is really what will be the game changer that low lock seat will create. the sensation of immediacy will essentially synchronize realities will go beyond a minute, reality, oh, virtual reality rule. go in the world all reality and that we as humans, we're good for you know, millions of years is to build up an emotional void. and when the communication happens within 10 milliseconds in stipends, zoom and all that,

after destroying that, because it takes about 260000000 seconds. just for us to talk. now if we are together in the same room, you know, this emotional bond between us is very different and 5 g. will bring this back. so i think there will be a muscle shift you know, to what is additional tools? remote working, changing demographics, and all that will be powered within the 1st test by 5. g. . so right now, communication over the internet is basically looking at the screen saying your image with the speeds offered by 5 g. will the 2 d. paradigm change? and what i'm asking is that, like, are we going to get like starstruck hologram colace or a lake, you know, virtual reality stream through sky. so i'm in reality is actually, you know, already a reality with holographic combination is really, is really very close. in fact, you know, the very 1st smartphones are being released just office like these, where you're holding like that, where you use another phone, essentially as a,

as an intermediate screen and you see a whole rafique images. now if you think that in the future, we could use our allocations, which i have on my phone for this is called clone. i do a holographic scan off my face and that is then being projected into their futures, zoom type of capitally. so we could which will he have a fully holographic 3 d., fully immersive meeting happening with that being physically together. and that's a future which is coming very quickly. he also said that the 5 g. speeds and the new networks ability to networks, ability to send touch over the internet, will transform the education altogether. what do you mean? exactly? so i took a show, it's clearly the learning part of so learning new, new skills and so far we have great learning platforms, but they are all video or text based record. and if you want to have something more practical hands on, this is the surgeons at king's,

or the dentists kings need to come to king's college in london to learn how to do the surgery, how to do the drilling of the t.v. . now the future with the n.f. skills and using this little lot of sci fi, t. capital. and he allows us now suddenly to offer alerting platforms where you can learn these how date skills you know, that attach in the muscle movement through the internet. and that will allow us to skill up at scale, you know, any, any type of professional care, think of where you need a more practical slant to that. and in addition, you can suddenly run examinations which are not any more subjective to what the exam in a series, but actually subjective in terms of how this sojourn student moves, the hen, how, how he or she does those things. so we can will suddenly not only power the learning process, but also the examination process and the future. well, you mentioned remote surgeries, how reliable is 5 gene that respect? yes, actually we thought it talked about this specifically me with practice group. there

was a pioneer of robotic surgery and it happens to be a king. so we started the whole field. and, you know, initially i got a lot of, you know, a lot of reservations also from the press and that made, you know, god was very quick as i say, because it's now becoming mainstream on offer a shell in china. it's being started to be used during the fight. you have designed 5 to be very reliable. so we talk in terms of reliability and how many nines b.i.v. are percentages you have. it is very reliable. but still we need to build it as restrain a show that it is a package out that you know, the reporting on does moving the way it weighs. so we, this is being done from a, from a robotics point of view. we also need to make sure that security is very reliable because you don't want anybody to back into it alive or what extraordinary, and then cause havoc. so we have quite a bit of work still to be done to really make sure that these systems are reliable . and what else can be sort of tele sized with, i mean, you talk

a lot about playing live music over the internet with no lack. that's a bonus. what else? i mean, could we use it to talk about medicine? i'm also looking a lot into the arts. so i work with a lot of a lot of artists and i'm a composer myself and a performing pianist. so the question is, could we democratize the way how we essentially perform the arts, how we teach the arts, you know, anybody in the world how to play the piano, or somebody teaches me how to paint. so these type of capital of these, you know, will be very important, but specifically i think, oh, it brought it back with the, with the a stop autists in that they need a rethink on how to off these are, you know, it's a mess of kind of experiences in a way which is different juju, people coming and going to the stadium and listening to them for instance, on a remotely control

a construction site. if you show it is i envisage that for the future to be exactly like that. so you would have a fairly cheap or out lead with possibly an exhaust skeleton, which is then being controlled especially remotely from any other part of the world . and we have demonstrated a very, very exciting use case which wasn't with construction per se, but very similar. and that was with the drone. so we had a 5 g. drawn in the majority of 5. g. drones has a 5 g. connection just through the drone. we did something else, we connected the control of the drone, you know, to the united states for a 5 g.'s slice, as we call it, it went all the way back from the rise and shoot e.p. c, and then only control to drill. so what we wanted to show is that this future of scales using 5 g. technology allowed us to control a very critical process flying a very big industrial drone from anywhere in the world to anywhere else in the world. so therefore, these type of obligations will hopefully become mainstream,

maybe in 5 to 10 years time. so basically liking 10 years time, you can orchestrate a whole war, right? i mean, how, like italo warfare planes and tanks and attack helicopters and such, you know, we hope this will not happen and certainly it will, because that never happens without that part yet. and progress that we a chief always is tain with that part. and so, you know, you have probably, you're right, so i have to reason with the use of technology as you know, always be to some degree used for, for the west, part of humanity. a lot of that will actually append on our car abilities will shoot. you artificial intelligence in so it's not only 5 g. in robotics, it needs to be a lot of ai involved in currently a global scale days, a lot of discussions around, you know, pet also storage had also ethics regulation and requirements on ai. so i think, you know, our ability as a humanity just stopped this to be used, you know,

within wars within conflicts i think really resides in these panels. and i hope there will be fruitful over the next years. 'd to show then take a short break right now when we're back, we'll continue talking to misha dollar, professor in wireless communications at king's college london, talking about the 5 g. and the prospects it holds for us. stay with us. that's interesting. ministration comes one. then those who dreamed up in executing the russia gate hoax ever be held accountable. will the media ever be held accountable for the role they played and should be now assume the deep state is

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and we're back with mischa dollar professor in wireless communications and king's college london, talking about this 5 g. . since we started talking about the down solace of our technological breakthroughs, let's talk a bit about the darker side of the internet and what will happen to that part once at once we have 5 g.

. i mean, do you feel like we're going to have more sophisticated spy and surveillance systems in the internet? whatever is it, once we're fighting it right now, we will know that we lost our privacy was going to happen with 5 g. as it is, it is a good question and i think you know, the consumers in general, you generally should be concerned about this and they have all the right to be informed. now as you well know, maybe you don't know that, but you know, the ability for a legal access to the infrastructure has already been there. so if you use a governmental as a judge or as a police or any other best, you have a legal war and to access the data in a freeze you for your find the system. this was always possible. in fact, this is even standardize trade. so it is no secret there. now in terms of illegal access, ok, so basically the ability to hack into this, whether this is a government state on malicious octo or just some judge doing acking into in 5

g. . you know, because it is a fully software, a system in principle, this could become a little easier. but at the same time, what we have done is we are also improved the security of the fine gene for structure. so therefore, we guess we can to protect that infrastructure from that type of malicious access. so i also wonder what kind of like mobile techs, advancements will be spurred by the new speeds of g 5. like how will a 5 g. change the mobile phone because when we had like 3 g. or. 'd forging networks, the mobile phone makers rose up to new possibilities and there was no point in making like a smartphone with a huge screen before. because you can really stream anything through slow internet . what about now? how do you think it's going to transform as a great, great question. you're asking, and it's, you know, that actually reminds me of the sentence, which is best, but the form of she does erickson the current chief executive authorized and said, you know, we started designing 3 g.

when the internet wasn't around. and we started designing 4 g. when the, when the smartphone was there, and so equally, you know, what's now 560. why are we doing that? and you're right, and i think, you know, the 5 g. cap abilities bring you back to another part of the conversation. a lot is a lot of this holographic and you know, this is made of reality transmission. and therefore we need to adapt actually the phones and there are a lot of prototyping going on. and i wouldn't be surprised if you know i phone way up for you. 1516 will have the capital of the form yet. you have a whole graphic image of you. senshi as we speak so much more naturally and gauge. and it will show people who are actually on vibrations. so this happy family, you shop something, you go over the screen and you touch it and it vibrates. and depending whether that is a piece or board away that is, you know, up close your bias. you can feel on your smartphone, what actually you know, you see on your screen. so these type of revolutions will essentially being enabled and accelerated through that 5 g.

genealogy, you know, with this starling project within a few decades. a mask is playing to send $40000.00 satellites to space that would be able to bring free high speed, low latency internet, to even the most remote area centers. d.c. starling, as a competitor to 5 g. . no studies. it is a great complementary to knology. so you don't particularly, you know, we struggle from a telecom point of view to give business cases which allow us to roll out this knowledge with the same intensity in an rural and suburban areas as we do that in the, in the, in the urban areas. so therefore, to have a cap ability, which allows has really needed a global e ensure coverage no matter where you are, whether in the outback, in australia or you in siberia or you know, in the rain forest, you know, still maintain a phone connection. i think that is very, very attractive and really underpins the global footprint of our wireless

technology. nearly half of the world's population right now don't have access to the internet whatsoever. let alone 5 g. or 3 g. in according to unesco, more than 800000000, students kept out of the classrooms due to the condemning and they have no computers. and more than 700000000 don't even have internet at home. and since 5 g. can't solve this problem, will it only widen the gap between those 2 axes, the new high speeds and those without any access to it? so potentially that could be the case if the government does not do governments around the world don't intervene, you know, from a regulatory point of view. so quite a few governments, including in the united kingdom point out is a requirement for the 5 g. license to show sufficient for print in the rural areas which cover the essentially views on the privileged coverage area. now that, that's one part of the 5 g. also is not only about highest speed. so interesting to some of the frequencies we

have using our to very low frequencies, which he used to be as you know, what you really just needed one bit antenna tower in the city. and it would have a quite a wide area. so therefore, we would get, you know, not the super duper change bits per 2nd. 5 g. speeds everywhere. but we would have at least a decent coverage to nick schools to connect people who want to learn from platforms, you know, like you to me or corsair out. so i think 5, she gives us that opportunity, but it has to be made right. the economic case has to be there, and hopefully, you know, the likes of in one mosque will then also cover the remaining of these underprivileged areas. so here's the thing lake with a 5 g. not even rolled out yet. there is already taco 60. what's that going to be like?, and also like the way you describe 5 g., it just sounds so ultimate will, could possibly be improved in the new generation. so the neck and then of course we always looking ahead. in fact, you know, we were on fire as of 2012,

so it was 8 years in may. and naturally, you know, we started working on 60 back to, you know, 9 months ago. and the good thing is, you know, we have a trend in telecoms,, which is fairly steady. so as we go from 2 to 3, to 4 to 5 g., you know, we always improve something by one of 2 orders of magnitude and 60 will be no difference while we're going to stop thinking why we're doing it. and one thing i could imagine is you know, that some of that network capacity or cap ability in 60 it will be used more for 4 machines, fought efficient televisions to maintain essentially, you know, itself. so the sizing structures and that is the hypotheses which we need to validate if you use time. so well, there are always be attentive data waiting to be moved around quickly. and that's like requiring constant new generation tech for a conic to vittie, or will there be like at some point, some kind of a g. like 7 g. or a 23 d.

at our no. after which we'll say ok, we've got the internet working now. no heat for a new network that is being the right person who is the 1st one to advocate. if you know that generation is solid, as i call that will stop at some point and i had hoped it would start with fire. keep it clear. we've got on it. the reason i thought i would stop with 5 g. is because we have completely software as the infrastructure. in fact, if you think about it, telecoms is probably the only big ecosystem in a place which still moves in these big generations. every 10 years, ok, if you think of the internet, you don't hear of 5 genome at all 10 genomic, right? because we are, everything is on software. so innovation happens much quicker and happens in feature x. rayed. and therefore, we hope to translate that feature of the aleutian you know, into the telco world and find you may not be yet the generation to do it. i think 60 can do it in 7. g. i think will be more sell. so this is network a.g.

will consolidate it, so i think a.g. will be radio a lot will be talking about maybe you know, the 30 decided we can come back to this discussion. we'll see. oh ok. so even before the condemning, there have been a lot of conspiracy theories about health risks. 5 g. may be causing it. but once the pandemic struck, i mean their number has increased time fold, and dozens of 5 g. towers were birthed in the u.k. and elsewhere around the world. scientists have many times stated that she cannot cosco that another house conditions as well, but false rumors about it continue to spread. why is it wise? why is this such a lake black clouds of that rumors around? so i have never seen that before. well, you know, interesting, we have every generation. so you know, if we had a 3 g., we have pulled you, we have a 5 g., but there's a difference now to be 14 for each year out. we have a,

a social media world, which is, you know, not only exponentially connecting everybody, but people have really become addicted to this very kind of conspiracy clear bait material. and you need to contrast that to the fairly boring engineering videos, which out this say, you know, nothing can happen and you understand why this goes viral. so, and i maintained for a long time already we, as an engineering community, we need to be a need to do better, to explain to society why the technologies safe. and you know,, before we find out 5 g., this was like, you know, years of making almost a decade and making and there's a whole body responsible for doing nothing else. but checking whether the frequencies can do any on the body is a very non sexy language. in the national committee for long i and i sing already ation protection. if you go to the website, explains it really well. why any of these frequencies we use in 5 g.

can cannot cause any harm. it's a very rigorous methodology, and in terms of coded interestedly, you know, people confuse correlation with causalities. so one is when 2 things happen at the same time. and the that is what happens while. so will you find the areas where you have both 5 g. and kovac to a desk? yes, there are a lot of those, you know, will have 5 g. course that the answer is no. because there are countries like iran where there's no 5 g. rolled out at all. we had a lot of cars allergies and loads of the areas in the. 'd u.k. or anywhere else in the world where there's no 5 g. deployed, and yet we have quite a few cars are causalities there. so therefore, always make sure you don't confuse correlation with causality. because really one does not cause the other. can public outrage stahl research? i mean, can people's erratic behavior and conspiracy theories have an impact on your research into the conduct of the day?

so. ok, that's a difficult question for me. johnson. it's a very hypothetical question. so i think we, we continue doing the research, we need to do to vons, you know, technology, advanced society. and i think what will change and what i'm actually personally pushing for that is to make sure that we get the message, right? so when 60 comes along that well before 6 years released, we have enough really interesting material made available, which explains to society why this is a safety knology. why that is a good technology and why we think it will really be important to society. so i think that politics of the exercise will change as, a result of this very viral kind of, you know, outbreak we have seen with 5 g., which i thank you so much for this really interesting insight into the world of conic to vittie. and the breakthroughs that were in for in the nearest future. and i hope all the best in your future endeavors and your research into the high tech.

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