it shows the deep state can win, and that's a very, very dangerous thing for the if any president going into office now, is this you cannot challenge the inter agency consensus as they like to say, go ahead jim. yes, peter, i mean i guess as a, as a diehard optimist. i hope there's possibly some oil a truck can pull this out, but i don't think that's very likely at this point. and assuming that by the administration does take power, which is the odds on favorite this point, i think will be no looking back at the interregnum is over. the hiatus is over and they, they had the fear that was sent into the system that some great orange disruptor was going to actually be of the commander in chief. and as an article 2 says, the executive branch of government, not the interagency consensus, which is mentioned nowhere in the constitution that would be over. i mean, as far as his releasing documents, that's right up there with his, he's giving orders to get out of afghanistan or iraq or syria. donald trump never

had an effect of control of the executive branch of government. and that hardly is due to his own really horrible appointees that he put had now. and he, if he had understood what he was doing from day one, you would realize he was behind the lines of enemy occupied territory. it was what put together a team of people that knew how. 6 to get the job done, to make sure his orders would be followed resident, resorting to tweets all the time about what his subordinates ought to do, that he could simply order them to do if he had people that would actually follow his orders. so i think not only what were none of these people responsible for russia gave rise again, whatever you want to call it ukraine gate ever be called to account. for quite the contrary. i think we're going to see this. what if there's robert reich accountability project? truth, commission blacklists, where anybody now targeted by what i think will be a new shock to tell a terror and order with the imperative being the only permissible extreme jump

information, much more censorship on social media and so forth. i think we're going to see something that's unprecedented, certainly in american history that, that none of us should be looking for to matter what or all of it all over the media's role. they've acquitted themselves so badly here. i mean, because there, there are accomplices to all of this. i mean, over the years on this program, all of us have talked about real evidence of wrongdoing by individuals in the intelligence community in the d.o.j. in the f.b.i. . some people lost their jobs, though it may not be directly to that. what about the issue of russia gated cell? i mean a lack of candor and things like that. they were used to run, but i mean the media, i think they're, they're, they basically surrendered to this, this narrative and they, and now they become willing of the national security state. i mean,

i'm looking at all of our faces right now, but it wasn't always that way, had all over and may not always be in that way because the history of mainstream media in practically any country of the world has won the mainly of collusion with authority and in particular, with, with the deep states of all of the major nations or the united states is actually not particularly exceptional in, in this respect, a, trump was a wonderful gift to the media from an economic point of view. because the media as a whole was, was flailing very badly as a result of its internal economic crisis. and here came along this incredibly interesting, intriguing clown like figure who is never going to be a savior from, from the,

from the deep state. because he doesn't believe in anything other than his own self-interest and the interests of his family and everything else is just incredibly, if our moral will trump, trump was never a convincing savior in the 2016 election, he did have one good idea and a good idea was it doesn't make sense to actually be friendly with russia and doesn't that make even better sense because it prevents the possibility of a more unified front between russia and china against u.s. interests around the world. that was actually quite sensible. trump didn't have the degree of conviction that was necessary for him to follow through on one good thought that he had during his campaign. well, her and not you know, this to rain right now. i don't, i don't think any of us will argue that, you know, donald trump think saberi highly of themself. ok, obviously here, but i mean,

if you, if you want to call himself asian, we go to break. now, the to selfishness is in the media and the deep state itself because they, they have damage the perception people have of these institutions here. i mean, hardly, you know, the cable t.v. the, the, the faith that people have been that now is a, is a minuscule now, because of all of this year, because as we've said on this program many, many times following this, every step of the way, i mean, when you, when you, when you look at, you know, where is the evidence of election fraud? well, there's nothing here to see. and then we say, well what, what about this f.b.i. saying this and writing this down and, and eccentrics after they say there's nothing to see here. i mean, they have damaged themselves here because they're not believe a bill anymore. and you can't have a functioning democracy if people don't believe the media, the media are supposed to be on your side, not there. well, the media is the cornerstone of course. you know, i speak of not only n.y.c.

the military industrial complex, but the military, industrial, congressional intelligence media, academia, think tank complex, making matt rhymes with mickey mouse. now why do i say media? because without the media being captivated, they could make it work is an example. we know now that the russians found out that hillary clinton on the 26th of july 2016, said, flame, the russians blame the russians. blame the russians for hacking blame the russians for everything. ok, that same day they noted judy miller, chair and the new york times. david sanger had an article, same day, russia, russia, russia, russia. so they were both, both fed from the same trough and, and the russians were simply repeating what was obvious to everyone. and which,

by the way, julian has signed himself, had said namely that this was a big distraction from day, from the e-mails showing that hillary had really stolen the nomination from bernie sanders. and after the election, of course, it was an excuse to explain why hillary lost and not incidentally to make sure that the mickey mat had a really potent enemy to build their arms shell. their arms justify the military pick francis, which are unconscionable in our society. you know, james, the interesting thing too is that there was this, this demand by the powers that be particularly the deep state is that, you know, trump with threatened to change direction or nuance things. i mean, wow, he's the president of the united states. but they drew the line and said the president will not be able to do this and invented a hoax against him. that lives to this day. i mean, we have the,

the incoming designated secretary of state. i mean, he was a big russia gator ok. and these people are going to be refined in center again. go ahead, james. exactly right. and i think when right talks about the making of matters, i call them no man political. they are now firmly in the saddle, and i think we have crossed the rubicon here that there will be no challenge. edition the future that with the theft of this election, i think it was a normal politics just now and of das, the republic as upright laid been breaking down for decades is now finally gone. there will never be and normal national election in the united states. again, these people will not let go of our now that they have that fully integrated. and if you look at biden's team, i mean, you know, these are all pretty packet warmongers that make mike on pay a look like gandhi. i mean that this is this, you know, i think we're going to see now is the word fair state and it's narrative and will

only aim to trickle down. but we're going to go to the heart break. and after the heart break, we'll continue. our discussion will be a conclusion to russia. get state with r.t. because humans wiggin for, you know, millions of years to build up an emotional point. when the communication happens within 10 minutes, seconds and in stipends zoom and all that destroying that because it takes about 60000000 seconds just flew us to talk. now we've got to get on the same room, you know, this emotional bond between us. it's very different and will bring this back it's certainly being isolated. it's not good for you. not good for your state may make you infected this issue

with both a bonafide misses. if you know it's all suppose you may be more to it in the future. so i certainly do not think people's health and that's very bad for people's mental health. with the looting you put some nice to

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shelf home, how much you can keep it or don't or don't let you come up with a group of men about the how i live and i'm mad at them and the minimum because i'm not bad with the internet, but only that if i say i love them, they're down to like about nanami beings as it is about it's been decades since the fall of spain's fascist regime, but old wounds still haven't healed of them thought it was pretty famous. because for me, from a girl do you up to bottom, you suppose you mean on the bus at the 6 mean old or the bench that they seem

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the robot must protect its own existence. welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle. we're discussing whether russia gate will ever be completely exposed. ok let's go back to jim in washington to bring to the break. you were making a point please. going to show yes. i think that we're going to see this integrated warfare state. so fooling control now and the narrative supporting it. being the only one that is permitted anything else will be conspiracy theory if they knew it was increasingly subject to censorship. that when we start getting our one of the 1st things i expect, by the way, is to revive the war in syria and be a regime change operation, syria. i guess we can start setting our watches, waking,

the next us arsenal gas attack or whatever it is. i think the pressure against russia will step up exponentially and, and the narrative will shift will be, will be christiane amanpour for one. why and to be out there telling us how dastardly all these countries are, why the united states must act. and if anybody questions that it will simply not be heard by the vast majority of people. and i think this is bifurcation, our society and the marginalization of dissenting views is going to be a permanent feature. now, may want to jump in. this want to mention something about syria. why are we in syria, anybody know, or in syria? but i know for israel most let's face it, the israelis have admitted that their interest in the outcome in syria is that there be no outcome that would be chaos that their potential perpetual warfare in syria. so that no sunni or shia can prevail and threaten israel. they've said

that that's been their york times. look at the lead article, september 6th, 2013. they told the new york times said, your jerusalem correspondent, the preferred outcome is no outcome. as long as this bloodletting between shia and sunni quote, we have nothing to fear from syria. that's why we're in syria and the 1st the, the time krishna recognize that. we need to tell the american people, this is not our fight. and when are going to send any more u.s. soldiers or even people who will fight for us to mess around the syria just because israel wants chaos there. you know, all over have they? i think almost we can agree here. i mean it's, i can understand the way the deep state acts and because they protect themselves. ok. i mean, even the impotent f.b.i. director. mean he's protecting the f.b.i.

. i mean, it's so pathetic. i think the attorney general has done better, but that's not his wheelhouse necessarily here, but i am very intimately is the media here and i find it really quite. and i agree with your 1st answer that the media as they tend to kowtow to the powers that be when i mean, there are a lot of people that are very interested in this story here and it, it, and i think they're smarter group of people to be honest with the ok and we, we make compelling arguments because we actually make arguments. ok. because the other side just says, oh, that's just the conspiracy theory. but they're the ones that have been peddling a conspiracy theory. and this is the oddity of it all. and i, and i'm not going to personally say people are liars, but it seems very convenient to go along with it is when this narrative, i mean these people in media your paper, well they get access because now media is not about journalism,

it's about celebrity i mean, it really works very well for them, and particularly in reporting on the national security state, they tend to be more stenographers than anything else. i mean, they're out there is investigative journalism out there. but for the national security state, you just, they feed you when you just write it ok. that is a pretty clean and that's very dangerous. jim is already said here he questions the outcome of the election. people are more and more questioning these things here, and that's not very healthy for a purse to zion. and i'm really afraid we're all going to be balkanized. go ahead. i think we talked about russia gate as being at an extraordinary episode of public destruction in which the media was a prime player. russia gave to structure this and many, many things, including the corruption of the d.n.c. and it distracted us from the road. it doc, money and us elections a destructive us from everything that is very wrong with the election with this 2

pocket dominant electoral system that we have. and amongst other things, very sadly, it distracted us from the reality for russia and the reality of china. and anyone who's visited cities recently of such like moscow or st. petersburg of beijing or shanghai. they will know these are incredibly vibrant places that the world is changing. we have examples of extraordinarily effective political leadership in these countries, the likes of which we have not seen here for several decades. this is the reality doesn't media, the us media office, kate, they, they rob 99.9 percent of the american population from understanding anything real about these 2 to not just these 2 countries about many countries, but in this context is a particularly important. the fact that we know nothing from the media about russia

or about china, you know, who are a, one of the things that we've seen a dramatic shift i would say over the last few years is that the neo cons have been able to capture both parties now in this is really, this is an amazing and they've captured the media as well. i mean, when i was growing up, ok, i agree that c.n.n. and table didn't exist, but you didn't have, you know, you know, former directors of intelligence as a contributor to a television like on a.b.c. or n.b.c. or c.b.s. . and now, i mean, i just have to wonder if you know when, when clapper is doing his contribution, i think it's over m.m.s. mt st. i mean, is he camera briefing? and then he tells his producer to tell the presenter to ask me a question. i mean, it's just all circular, ok. it's completely circular. like how we got into iraq year. i mean, and all over is absolutely right. i mean, having lived outside of the united states for 22 years living most of my life

outside of the united states, the world is a very different place than the media in the u.s. to trace it. right. well, peter, you mentioned james clapper. while national intelligence director is famous for among other things, shame that you know, the russian, we know from experience that the russians are, are almost should medically driven to be to co-opt, to penetrate, to do all kinds of almost chenault tickly driven. my god, that's racism. that's the kind of thing that hillary used. i mean the russians are samus, the jews pushing and the russians have been demonized as is happening now for the chinese and us media. what they don't seem to understand is what the old so it's used to call the correlation of forces, correlation of forces or shifted cake. now is russia and china against the united

states. partly because of the mistakes the united states has made. but there's a virtual military alliance between the 2 chain recently said, you know, we don't have to have a treaty, a defense treaty. we're so close. now though, we're at that point. well, let me add something. that means if some of our air force worriers cites a dust up, things in the ballot box say are up in the north of europe, then there's going to be trouble in the south china sea, mark my words, and the us can't afford this kind of thing so the earlier that tony blinken and the rest of the stuff i'm reminded of the old nursery rhyme, we can blink and nod as long as blink. and those are not too much angle, which is the reality. then we have a chance, but right now it doesn't look like even knows about the reality. he said following the old clinton deal. kerry drumbeat of demonizing both russia and china in

a racial kind of way. and that's beyond the pale because that's part of fascism. you know, canuck engine, jim, i remember out of the molar report was released on the new york times, had some kind of odd bed and i just, i just, i don't know who to laugh or cry, but they were saying maybe print president, try to trump should be, consider a new strategy with russia, considering how close russia and china have become. and i just thought you all of us on this program have been saying this for years. i mean, you're gay, you're creating this, you created this alliance. you, everyone should remember, we will remember that it went on when president came to power. he and he and overtures to the west, asking for a new architecture of security in europe, repeatedly asking it. and then when, after every single time this firmed every single time, well the correlation of forces, as we just heard shifted and there could be,

and that horses left the barn and they don't still understand that. because i'll tell you, the russian political elite simply doesn't trust the americans anymore. what is the term agreement incapable, jim? having painted it dystopian future, we can expect here domestically. i don't think people realize how terrifying we've dangerous what we're embarking on now. on the international scene, and these people, you know, we keep hearing about and i think ray's right the international situation has changed. people been saying, well, multiple larry is a reality. unfortunately, they have no medical authority, m.b.a. period capitol here had not gotten the memo. and that their arrogance is so should create and their attitude toward other countries that they can only exist as american satellites is so strong. they will keep pressing not only against russia and china, but against iran and venezuela, and whoever else. and north korea and you know,

something's gotta give it some point peter, and i don't think it's necessarily because people backing down and seeing the error of their ways. i do fear, at what point the russians and the chinese come to the conclusion. that war is inevitable and that, you know, i don't think anything in this life is inevitable, but many may come to the conclusion that there's no other way out of this. because the americans will simply be pressing, pressing, pressing until something breaks. it's an ideological problem here. yes. because neal liberalism, as understood in practice by these elites, you don't believe in sovereignty at all. i mean, i don't mind a vague understanding of america 1st, in the sense of american exceptionalism, one meet and, and no one else has. i mean, i've asked this repeatedly of neo cons. they don't say they're any a cause, but they really are isn't what it, what, what are the genuine national security interests of russia, but can't answer the question because of that she does alien to them. how can

another country have national interests? you the u.s. and the washington consensus? they determine what national interests are all over again in the last 30 seconds of the program. there are 2 small grains of comfort here. one is that reading about lincoln, what we know about blink and policies? i think we can expect to see a restoration of the deal with iran is not a take. it is satisfactory thing, but it makes a little bit more sense than the ludicrous situation that we are currently in with respect to iran. blinken does seem to support the extended staats treaty with russia is not a big thing when we're talking about a possibility. and i think we have, jim, i, i tend to believe there's going to be a lot of conditionality with everything that's all the time. we know what they might get in washington, raleigh. and you know what?

i think our viewers are watching us here are these the next time, remember this it was a march toward the city

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price target to $400000.00. but you're right, you have to also look at the price of gold here because the gold price because people are throwing in the street like garbage like, it's been decades since the fall of spain's fascist regime. but old wounds still haven't healed in the times when you and me from you know it, when we suppose you mean in the past at the source mean older than just the same question to you know, of newborn babies were torn from their mothers and given away and forced adoption, i don't know, but i want to groper. there's a feeling that to this day,

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