tv Cross Talk RT November 30, 2020 9:30am-10:01am EST
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rogues, gallery of people that want endless war promote them, were very much involved in designing wars that are still being fought and they're being but in the liberal media is cheering them as if there's some kind of an enlightenment after darkness. ok, obviously the donald trump is the darkness in their mind. but there's a lot of continuity here and i think this is what's really terrifying. and we have election cycle after election cycle where the public says they're sick and tired of these wars, but it doesn't seem to have much of an impact on the professional manager class that runs what i call the foreign policy block. a get away, patrick. you're right to point out peter about the continuity, there's a, if you look back in history, there's a tremendous continuity of us foreign policy from the ministration to administration. it's a slow moving elephant. it doesn't change much between the ministration, but it did change for the last 4 years. this is probably the trump administration,
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probably the biggest break in terms of continuity of u.s. foreign policy in my lifetime. and the way that i could remember and many others. so there is, there was a break in continuity, and i think that break was born out of the political will, of the american people electing a populist president. and so the, it triggered an auto immune reaction from the establishment in america that the media is well. so with bought with, if biden assumes power, let's assume he's going to take the reins in january. then the democrats are going to have the media on their side for everything. there will be no holding them to account. it will just be kind of a cheering section, much like it was for 8 years under obama and you, you can see where that led the u.s. and led the world, which was one of the darkest periods, in my opinion. in geo political history, this president started a numerous amount of new wars from yemen. dismembered yemen, dismembered,
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do you krane? dismembered libya, nearly dismembered syria, if not for the help of syria's allies, russia, and iran. so, but now they're going to have a chance to resume some of those projects. i mean, but they'll also in terms of continuity, they will look at what true the trunk framework is and, and most likely work with it. trump has allowed the democrats in this sense to be more hawkish, but say against iran in the obama administration was i see that is going to continue the appointment of jake sullivan recently as a national security adviser at the tender age of 43 years old. he's just a child. well and we have to remember, let me go to demon here and take silva, who was one of the great cheerleaders of the russia gate conspiracy hoax. so this is the resumes that the liberal media is cheering on here. when we look at anthony lincoln, lincoln,
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he's one of the architects of the breakup of yugoslavia. lot of people don't know that he was in the white house when, when, when libya was destroyed and has regrets that a bomb, it didn't do more to intervene in the international proxy war in syria here. so it's much of the same kind of like an obama $2.00, but the difference, his demeanor is that the neo cons have been able to trans migrate into both major parties and most importantly, into the media. it's a close circle. now go ahead. you are exactly right. you have whatever you call them all to anybody else. now anybody else? you have them inside both parties and unfortunately, you know what was really bad on the trial. there was a neg, just wait, your phrasing, walk, create it. so whoever is the, you will secretary of state where you've been, you'll say, represent between the u.s. and they're going to act even that they just made you framework left by the
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terrible congress. you know, the congress under mr. trump introduced things right. cuts, which actually a kind of institutionalized us, a kind of hybrid war against russia. just imagine these people obliged their american state to keep track of rich people in russia who have connections to the government, their families, you know, to, to pursue them basically around the world. well, that was basically a legislative declaration or war for many years. so unfortunately, the new demonstration, whoever joins us is going to act inside that framework. but you know, what really struck me was the fact that despite the fact that 74000000 at least 74000000 americans voted for trump, there is no respect for them. there is no excuse for go by it and you know, some people call hugo bottom. i think it's a very, it's a very good name because basically he didn't say that he would alter
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a bomb us politicians because 74000000 people voted for trump, you know, and that's despite his program saying, you know, this bill barack better cardholders. it's the nobody has maurice back to the joe biden or the walk in women and man who get up every day to build and sustain this country. well, 74000000 of these people voted for someone else. tell them something, you know, tell them how you're going to be different from above. and joe biden just said, and i lost in my lifetime, so you are going to stoop. that's all the excuses. he taps, but that's the point. you know, nothing will fundamentally change that. you know, that is the message you're, you know, you know, patrick, one of the things i lament most of this election cycle is that it was, and i think you and i've been watching politics from a very young age, was completely devoid of policy. so we were doing on this program right now, trying to internally by foreign policy, if he is in a curated of what
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a bite in foreign policy can be through people that he's speaking to be in his cabinet. because, well, joe didn't say very much during the campaign other then he didn't like trump's tweets anymore. umask was the long and short of it. no, no, you're right. so the big, what's going to be the big difference in terms of democrats versus republicans, i want to put the trump in this train into a republican basket tradition. but let's just say for argument's sake, is the tool box. the democrats have a certain tool box. they'll shuttle in all the same people, the architects, samantha power, susan rice, all the responsibility to protect crowd. that's their tool box, it's human rights, it's emotive narratives. it's refugees, it's, we need to save the people we need to intervene. and so they will sort of roll this out. the media absolutely has trained for this. c.n.n. is built for that. basically all the ngo frameworks, that's part of their tool box. the language that they'll use, it will be
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a humanitarian and a kinder, gentler form of, for lack of a better term, imperialism that we saw under obama. and that's how the democrats roll. right, patrick, i think when it green with me, that inside that tool box that i think you described is to be 2 missing words. international law. great. right. no, it will be international norms. oh ok. it will be, it will be the, the rules based international order. that's their language. that's the same language that you'll see coming out of the g. 7. this will be repeated by britain. democrats tend to work through multilateral organizations, like nato, to do their, you know, prosecute wars, for instance, because it gives them kind of, you know, public relations cover or waters down there sort of culpability. obama did this in libya too. great a great skill. and so this, this is what you'll see,
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the un will become more in the forefront in terms of humanitarian issues and intervention. so you have the liberal internationalist, interventionist, neo liberal, interventionist, which is really in the old conservative no growth, really in it. and they will be and they will tell us over and over again that this is the essence of the international community. no,, it is really the washington consensus here. ok. you know, d.m.a.e., you've kind of hinted at it here. i fully expect that syria could be on the agenda again, russia. they've been kind of opaque in how they want to deal with china, which i think will be very, very interesting. but again, because we didn't have it during the campaign, we really don't have a clear understanding what potential biden mr. ation would go. what are some of the things that you're looking at as we kind of, you know, read the tea leaves here? well, bottled, it came to this for the defense secretary's position and we show she's called
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a specialist in russia. you know, pentagon's, russia, well, i'm, i'm using somewhat, i feel uneasy. you know, i mean astri's so, so secretary saying that maybe kind of the station are headed by specialists all on piece of that country because usually they're the specialists on destroying that country or at best demonize and country. i mean, like a specialist on syria in the united states were usually of the most outspoken supporter all over the regime change there, which actually mad civil war and supporting most of them brotherhood and all that extremist organizations. which in fact start of this civil war in syria about of course the american media presented it as just, you know, some kind of went against peaceful demonstrations by the syrian government. so i'm somewhat uneasy, you know, when i hear that michele flournoy,
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a specialist in russia, is probably going to have a defense team. william burroughs. well, has a job is because i know that during his junior ascent, i'm best of the in russia. he said, man, you're right towards bob, he's book is terrible and he's articles are all false. so unfortunately, also, you know, the problem we have now what he borough of pretty boy george is the same as with albert that he did in one your were just people at the pool. some of them supported out of conviction. some of them supported all of your pragmatism, i'm sorry, just you know, to sustain their family and become rich. and sometimes you have, you can be nation, you know, in order to make, you'll live better and secure. these people kind of absorption these norms over bro to tell you terry, and i go with that epps all of these things into their writings, into their thinking, just below, you know, much more comfortable. i mean,
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let's finish up with powdered here. here. it's a grist to, i mean, if you look at these a list of people, they are how high positions in the foreign policy realm here. i mean, their lobbyists or this lobbyist working hand in hand with the defense industry and other industries. and it's a huge grif that made a lot of money. now they're on top, your last 10 seconds go to, you know, if it is there or they're all going to be in gainful employment. there's a whole coterie of analysts that will be shuttled in to c.n.n. and foreign policy experts, but the main thing, the last thing on ses joe biden was so far pointed voiced viceroy of the ukraine during the obama strain. and so, you know, the situation of the dumbass, they're going to want to let that languish for a little bit. you know, you're going to get a hard break and hard break and continue our discussion on some real unstable party
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survive and tara gauge. definitely don't want to be going to try to jump on cups. you're more likely to walk free if you're rich. or if you're poor and you've got 2 eyes and ears in one now. so you should be seen in here and a whole lot more than you're saying. if you don't take that advice, easy going to dig yourself a hole. is your media a reflection of reality in a world transformed what will make you feel safe? high salacious community?
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are you going the right way or are you being direct? what is true? what's his face? in a world corrupted, you need to descend to join us in the death or a mate in the shallowest welcome back to cross up where all things are considered. i'm people about to remind you. we're discussing some real news on this. go back to patrick disney to terms that the great reset and build back
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better is being bandied around. and i guess, you know, they seem rather innocuous and harmless here, but i find them to be quite sinister because this is a way to change the world again. maybe that's not a bad thing. that things are pretty gloomy right now because of the economic turndown in the endemic. but it seems to me using these terms, is a back door to do what you want without voter consent. and there's going to be no debate is just going to be in ministry dibley apply in. it'll be applied in all sectors of our lives here again, without our permission. your thoughts knows this is a big, unprecedented situation where, you know, you look at joe biden, for instance, he had build back better as you know, campaign slogan. this is the same exact slogan that appears behind boris johnson. it appears behind justin trudeau. you can suit angela merkel's using this terminology, and it's coming out of the world economic forum in davos,
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the 1st time in international organizations kind of running the platform for mainline u.s. presidential candidates during an election. i mean, this is unheard of. and so you have to step back and without being too conspiratorial, saying there's a bit of harmonization there and coordination there. it's kind of obvious. and the main point is, i think what you said, peter, is that voters in britain voters in the united states. they don't, they're not voting on davos is great reset agenda. they never had a chance. there was never a referendum. this is just being absorbed. and this is all it basically in line with the un's sustainable development goals of 2030. so this is kind of a race to meet all these arbitrary technocratic standards that have been laid out by all these various u.n. committees and all these climate conferences been going on for 2 decades. and so it's 5 countries are totally on board with this australia, especially new zealand. and then most of the european countries are already pretty
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much signed up to it as well. so, but they were really rebuilding a system that they themselves broke. this is really going to prop up the green new deal, which is the objective of this is propping up a system, a financial system that is, you know, absolutely over leveraged and what have they done in the last 9 months. they have over leveraged again with bailouts. and q.e. and stimulus is a system that was already on its hands and knees. so this is really setting up the green new deal, the rating of pension, felt it to be me, but it's be very, very clear with our viewers here. the new green deal is not just about the environment to me again, this is atrocious horse you change so many things and you know, until it's proven otherwise, it is just a continued transfer of wealth to the very richest and the world. it's no coincidence that they're doing this. ok,
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this is an opportunity to keep that financial system and paradigm in place here. but, you know, team at the interesting thing is that with this great recession build back better. and again, these are like and now we get to use dog whistle. ok. these are dog whistles against populism. that's what it is. and there is that because of the failed economic system that we are living with now and failed for the vast majority of this, populism is a threat to them. and these, these 2 that ideas, the 2 pillars is to make sure something like trump never happens. again, they're determined to do this. ok, they're very determined. and this is the pendennis. an economic turndown is their opportunity to act now and to act in unison. go ahead. oh, you know, absolutely right. it is a moment where the outer liberals kind of strengthened their grip on power, not just in the united states, but around the world. but also, i mean, i just,
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i was just on to what a short memory people have because in that build back better. well 1st time, 35 by the word receptive because we've had a reset with obama in 2010 in russian american relations. and the head of the reset was take a boy, you know, it was a, the civil war in ukraine. basically, a provoked by the west provoked by the coup that they supported in kiev. it was the war in syria. and people have such a short memory because inside that program, what do we read? this is the 2nd time we have seen the 2nd bailout in 12 years for big corporations . and wall street, well, who did the 1st bailout in 20092000 tan. wasn't it mr. obama, by any way, and his vice president joe biden. you know, the crisis we remembered started under bush by basically the bailouts. you know,
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there, that salvaging all the big banks, of course, was all done by obama's team. actually our bomber promised him to promises that you would walk for what can people and that he would take big money out of politics. well, we remember that in their underwear bomber stream, it was not just big money or courage in full swing in support. or hillary clinton, obama was the 1st president who allowed secret services, you know, basically special services to get involved. we remember how they got involved in american politics and suddenly with horror that we had this new after the intelligence community, you know, something that even the president cannot contradict. you know, the intelligence community has said russia would trump in power and absurdist that may sound where we were supposed to believe it. you know, now the conspiracy theory about, you know, been supported by biden, been supported by then you say allen and cheney's money. there is
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a conspiracy theory, everyone agrees, but the theory of our trump been supported by russia is equally absurd. and everyone was supposed to believe in it. you know. i quite agree with you on the green new deal. well, i think president marc wrong, who usually banks very lengthy, empty speeches. he has struck a chord with many reporters. i think about a week ago when in his own interview he said that, you know, for decades people were encouraged to get home. i would say he just didn't take their children to educational colossus in their cars and know people. and i told him, you know, cars are bad, you know, everything you have been doing is just ecologically unsustainable. and they told the working people per year is turn change over to diesel and then exactly, exactly, and then, but no. now we don't want it. so i mean after all of that money was invested, you know, patrick, this is
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a perfect segue. is that this great reset or build back better and it's nothing to do with working people is better because in spite of working people, i mean they want to implement these things through a backdoor and not through the democratic process because they know that you can't get these people to follow ok because they're, if they're either educated or they're ignorant or they're religious people, there's always something wrong with that part of the electorate. and this is a strictly short circuit at the inn around the well, if you look at the effect of lockdowns, especially in the west, i'm talking about developed countries in the west. ok, because there's,, it's more pronounced the did the drop in g.d.p., the loss of civil liberties and rights and so forth. all of this stuff. and the unemployment where the developed were the undeveloped world, the 3rd world,, if you will, was already struggling. and you know, it doesn't have a great g.d.p., so they haven't really felt and living under despots normally, they haven't felt as big of a change. so what this has done is depressed the western economy and almost leveled
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it out. so it's closer. so there's slightly more normalization between the 3rd world and the developed world, which is what davos says they intend to do. it's what the world economic forum wants to socialize consumption they want to sort of normalize and even out production in except for the very rich i would suppose, right? yeah, it will if you can hear. the comment you made on fuel is important because if you ban diesel diesel cars and combustion engines, which they've moved forward to 2030 in the u.k. for instance, that's going to basically not only destroy the, a lot of the car manufacturing, but it's going to drive there are things that do require fuel, like aviation, and maritime, and so it's going to, it's going to drive the price. it's going to restrict the supply of the available supply, the market shrinking. it's going to drive the price up. so the only people who can
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afford to fly or to ship some of these things by boat, it's going to be very expensive, is going to drive the prices up. and so the billionaire class have no problem be able to fly to the mall. deaves will be able to go to, you know, the great barrier reef to look at the sharks and what not. all the things that they love doing, skiing involved is there no problem. but for the rest of the middle class has been, depressed and crushed. the working class forget it. they're on u.b.i., universal basic income in this plan. and the green new deal is being funded by raiding the pensions of the next generation and the current generation in the last generation. and what they call releasing liberating 4 trillion or 10 trillion in to fund green tech. if you remember cylindrica under obama, that $500000000.00 boondoggle that produced no solar panels multiply that times $10000.00. that's the sort of money you're talking about with the green new deal that they want to do. this is just an opening for the massive amount of corporate
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fraud. basically do nothing, projects, jobs for my friends. they're talking about sustainable green jobs. you got to believe that it exists. think the example of the combustible engine? i mean, this is what a lot of working people do. their drivers. ok they, they're couriers for many people. and particularly if you look at it in red states in the united states, this is absolute necessity, but that they're driving forward even weeks. i mean, without any consideration of what they're going to do. i mean, how many, hundreds of thousands and millions of people are involved in the part of the economy. they just got to be decide or put them on some kind of low level welfare just as this as this is since they get through through life. i mean, again, nobody is voting on this. ok, and if it was presented to voters, they would say no. well, i think that it's true
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a lot already in the united states. there was something wrong of all of these green demagoguery. i mean, i am all for equality. i'm all for lefties need to look. you may agree. i've, you know, some of the, formerly ecological leftist r.g.s. in europe are getting just see mr. i mean, the greens in germany who are the symbol of pacifism for many years. know they're the biggest enemies on russia. they believe every why about russia and about to head the ball with all the countries in the each. and i agree with you completely that a lot of poor people are dependent on the combustion combustion engine air. the lot though, for a country still the water, you know, they, you've all been an oil supplies and their gas supplies that they have been providing to rich countries. when the greens in germany are said, oh, we don't need we don't need north team tool because we are going to have created g. a new way. you know,
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well 1st they are denying and cheap services to their own people. ok, you may have to jump in here, we've run out of time. i want to thank my guests implement in moscow and i want to thank our viewers for watching us here. r.t.c. and exxon. remember. ringback join me every posting on the alex, i'm unsure and i'll be speaking to us from the world of politics or business. i'm sure business. i'll see you there. we are segregated in the high social class, lower middle class people also in poverty by 1st name. if you're born into
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