hello and welcome to cross top where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle. the foreign policy team of a potential buy in ministration is being touted by the liberal media. we tell you why all this should be horrified. also there's a lot of talk of a great reset and build back better does looking back or bode well for the future. to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guest, patrick hemmings, an employment he's the editor and founder of the 21st century wire. and here in moscow, we're joined by bob. she's a political analyst and editor at, you know smee internet media project. all right, gentlemen,

crossed up rose in effect, that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i was appreciated. ok, let's go to patrick 1st. their employment in watching the potential by a cab and being presented to the public through the liberal media. we heard of phrases like they are like the avengers is like they're super heroes or something like that. and then there was a talking head on p.b.s. saying, these are intensely professional people and they're apolitical. i mean, almost fell out of my chair. when that was said here, i look at this team and it's a rogues gallery of people that want endless war promote them. we're very much involved in designing a wars that are still being fought and they're being but when the liberal media is cheering them as if there is some kind of an enlightenment after darkness. ok, obviously the donald trump is the darkness in their mind. but there's

a lot of continuity here and i think this is what's really terrifying. and we have election cycle after election cycle where the public says they're sick and tired of these wars. but it doesn't seem to have much of an impact on the professional manager class that runs what i call the foreign policy block. a get away, patrick. no, you're right to point out peter about the continuity. there's a, if you look back in history, there's a tremendous continuity of u.s. foreign policy from the ministration to administration. it's a slow moving elephant. it doesn't change much between administration, but it did change for the last 4 years. this is probably the trump administration, probably the biggest break in terms of continuity of u.s. foreign policy in my lifetime. and the way that i could remember and many others. so there is, there was a break in continuity. and i think that break was born out of the political will, of the american people electing a populist president. and so the,

it triggered an auto immune reaction from the establishment in america that the media is well. so with bought with, if biden assumes power, let's assume he's going to take the reins in january. then the democrats are going to have the media on their side for everything. there will be no holding them to account. it will just be kind of a cheering section, much like it was for 8 years under obama and you, you can see where that led the u.s. and led the world, which was one of the darkest periods, in my opinion. in geo political history, this president started a numerous new wars from yemen, dismembered yemen, dismembered to you crane, dismembered libya, nearly dismembered syria, if not for the help of syria's allies, russia, and iran. so, but now they're going to have a chance to resume some of those projects. i mean, but they'll also in terms of continuity, they will look at what troop the trunk framework is and most likely work with it.

trump has allowed the democrats in this sense to be more hawkish, but say against iran than the obama administration was. i see that is going to continue the appointment of jake sullivan recently as a national security adviser at the tender age of 43 years old. he's just a child. well and we have to remember, let me go to demon here and takes over. that was one of the great cheerleaders of the russia gate conspiracy hoax. so this is the resumes that the liberal media is cheering on. here. when we look at me, blink and he is one of the architects of the breakup of yugoslavia. lot of people don't know that he was in the white house when, when, when libya was destroyed and has regrets that home it didn't do more to intervene in the international proxy war in syria here. so it's much of the same kind of like an obama $2.00, but the difference his demeanor here is that the neil cons have been able to trans

migrate into both major parties and most importantly, into the media. it's a close circle. now go ahead. you're exactly right. you have, whatever you call them, ultra liberal snout anywhere else. you have them inside both parties and unfortunately, you know, what was really bad. on the trial, there was a legislative framework create it. so whoever is the you will secretary of state where is then you will say, representing the u.n. they are going to act in there. they just made you framework left by the table congress. you know, the congress under mr. trump introduced, thinks right concert, which actually it kind of institutionalize us, a kind of hybrid war against russia. just imagine these people obliged that many can state to keep track of reach people in russia who have connections to the government. they family as you know,

to and to pursue with them basically around the world. well, that was basically a legislative declare ational war for many years. so unfortunately, the new administration where i would joins us is going to act inside that framework . but you know, what really struck me was the fact that despite the fact that 74000000 at least 74000000 americans voted for trump, there is no respect for them. there is no excuse for old drop by then, you know, some people call him joe bomb. i think it's a very, it's a very good name because basically he didn't say that he will alter a bomb, a sport. he says, because 74000000 people voted for trump, you know, and that's despite his program saying, you know, he's build back better as it's about nobody has more respect than biden, for the walk in women, a man who get up every day to be old and sustain this country well, 7th you, for me to know these people voted for someone else, telling them something,

you know, tell them how you're going to be different from obama. but joe biden just said, i thought in my lifetime, so you're going to lose too. but that's all the excuses he kept. but that's the point is, you know, nothing will fundamentally change that. you know, that is the message you're, you know, you know, patrick, one of the things i lament most through this election cycle is that it was in, and i think you and i have been watching politics from a very young age. was completely devoid of policy. so we were doing on this program right now trying to interpret what by foreign policy if he is inaugurated. and what of by inform policy would be through people that he's speaking to be in his cabinet . because well, joe didn't seem very much during the campaign. other than he didn't like trump's tweets and he wore a mask. it was a long and short of it. no, you know, you're right. so the big, what's going to be the big difference in terms of democrats versus republicans, i want to put the trump in this train into

a republican basket tradition. but let's just say for argument sake is the tool box . the democrats have a certain tool box. they'll shuttle in all the same people, the architects, the samantha power, susan rice, all the responsibility to protect crowd. that's their tool box, it's human rights, it's emotive narratives. it's refugees, it's, we need to save the people we need to intervene. and so they will sort of roll this out. the media absolutely has trained for this. c.n.n. is built for that. basically all the ngo frameworks, that's part of their tool box. the language that they'll use, it will be a humanitarian and a kinder, gentler form of, for lack of a better term, imperialism that we saw under obama. and that's how the democrats roll. right, patrick, i think when it green with me, that inside that tool box that i think you described is to be 2 missing words. international law. great. right. no,

it will be international norms. oh ok. it will be, it will be the, the rules based international order that's their, that's their language. that's the same language that you'll see coming out of the g. 7. this will be repeated by britain. the democrats tend to work through multilateral organizations, like nato, to do their, you know, prosecute wars, for instance, because it gives them kind of, you know, public relations cover or waters down there sort of culpability. obama did this in libya too. great a great skill. and so this, this is what you'll see, the u.n. will become more in the forefront in terms of humanitarian issues and intervention . so you have the liberal internationalist, interventionist, neo liberal, interventionist, which is really a neo conservative growth, really in it. and they will be, and they will tell us over and over again that this is the essence of the international community. no,,

it is really the washington consensus here. ok. you know, d.m.a.e., you've kind of hinted at it here. i thoroughly expect that syria could be on the agenda again, russia. they've been kind of opaque in how they want to deal with china, which i think will be very, very interesting. but again, because we didn't have that during the campaign, we really don't have a clear understanding what potential biden mr. ation would go. what are some of the things that you're looking at as we kind of, you know, read the tea leaves here? oh, well, i don't think came to this for the defense secretary's position. we show she is called a specialist in russia. you know, russia, well, i'm, i'm usually somewhat, i feel uneasy. you know, ministries so, so secretaries in them, any kind of the station are headed by specialists or on the so that country because

usually they're the specialists on destroying that country or at best demonize and country. i mean, like specialist on syria in the united states were usually the most outspoken supporter, although oh, of the regime change there, which actually manned civil war and supporting muslim brotherhood and other extremist organizations, which in fact start of the civil war in syria about of course the american media presented it as just, you know, some kind of went against peaceful demonstrations by the syrian government. so i'm somewhat uneasy, you know, when i hear that new show for noise, a specialist in russia is probably going to have their defense team. william burroughs has a job is for imputation, because i know that during his tenure a sent him best of the in russia. he said, man, you're right towards bob. his book is terrible and his articles are all false. so unfortunately, also, you know,

the problem we have now and he borough of pretty boy george is the same as with albert that he did in one your were just people at the top. some of them supported out of conviction. some of them supported all of your pragmatism, i'm sorry, just you know, to sustain their families and become rich. and sometimes you have, you can be nation, you know, in order to make your wife better and secure. these people kind of absorption the norm so far. no liberal to tell you, terry, and i go with that eps. all of these things into their writings, into their thinking just below much more comfortable. i mean let's finish up with powdered here here. it's a grist to, i mean, if you look at these, a list of people, they are how high positions in the foreign policy realm here. i mean, their lobbyists or actors lobbyist working hand in hand with the defense industry and other industries. and it's a huge grif that made

a lot of money. now they're on top, your last 10 seconds go to you, patrick. know it is there, they're all going to be in gainful employment. there's a whole coterie of analysts. there will be shuttled in to c.n.n. in foreign policy experts, but the main thing in the last thing i'll say is, joe biden was self-appointed voice viceroy of the ukraine during the obama strafe. and so, you know, the situation of the donbass, they're going to want to let that languish for a little bit. you know, you're going to get a hard break and hard break and continue our discussion on some real unstable party .

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left out on the way out of a welcome back to cross up where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news go back to luka patrick in the 2 terms that the great reset in build back better is being bandied around. and i guess, you know,

they seem rather innocuous and harmless here, but i find them to be quite sinister because this is a way to change the world again. maybe that's not a bad thing. that things are pretty right now because of be economic turndown in the endemic, but it seems to me using these terms, is a back door to do what you want without voter consent, there's going to be no debate. it's just going to be a ministry to apply and it will be applied in all sectors of our lives here again, without our permission, your thoughts knows this is a big, unprecedented situation where, you know, you look at joe biden, for instance, he had build back better as a, you know, campaign slogan, this is the same exact slogan, it appears behind boris johnson. it appears behind justin trudeau. you can see angela merkel's using this terminology, and it's coming out of the world economic forum in davos. so it's the 1st time in international organizations kind of running the platform for mainline u.s.

presidential candidate during an election. i mean, this is unheard of. and so you have to step back and without being too conspiratorial, saying there's a bit of harmonization there and coordination there. it's kind of obvious and the main point is, i think what you said, peter, is that voters in britain voters in the united states, they don't, they're not voting on davos. is great reset agenda. they never had a chance. there was never a referendum. this is just being absorbed and this is all it basically in line with the un's sustainable development goals of 2030. so this is kind of a race to meet all these arbitrary technocratic standards that have been laid out by all these various u.n. committees and all these climate conferences been going on for 2 decades. and so it's 5 countries are totally on board with this australia, especially new zealand. and then most of the european countries are already pretty much signed up to it as well. so, but they were really rebuilding a system that they themselves broke. this is really going to prop up the green new

deal, which is the objective of this is propping up a system, a financial system that is, you know, absolutely over leveraged and what have they done in the last 9 months. they have over leveraged again, bailouts and stimulus is a system that was already on its hands and knees. so this is really setting up the green new deal, the reading a pension feel of it makes me angry with you, but it's be very, very clear with our viewers here. the new green deal is not just about the environment. i mean, again, this is atrocious. horse, so you change so many things and you know, until it's proven otherwise, it is just a continued transfer of wealth to the very richest in the world. it's no coincidence that they're doing this. ok, this is an opportunity to keep that financial system and paradigm in place here.

but you know, team it, the interesting thing is that with this great recession build back better. and again, these are like and now we get to use dog whistle. ok. these are dog whistles against populism. that's what it is. and there is that because of the failed economic system that we are living with now, and these failed for the vast majority of this, populism is a threat to them. and these, these 2 ideas to these 2 pillars is to make sure something like trump never happens again, and they're determined to do this. ok, they're very determined and this is the depend on economic turndown is their opportunity to act now and to act in unison. go ahead. oh you are absolutely right . it is a moment where kind of strengthened their grip on power, not just in the united states, but they're all the world. but also, i mean, i just, i was just stunned to what a short memory people have because in that building back better well 1st,

i'm terrified by the what we set because we've had every step with obama in 2010, in russian american relations. and that of the reset horse takeable, you know, it was the civil war in ukraine. basically, a provoked by the west provoked by the coup that they support that in kiev. it was the war in syria. and you have such a short memory because inside that program, what do we read? this is the 2nd time we have seen the 2nd bailout in 12 years for big corporations . and wall street, well, who did the 1st bailout in 20092000 tan? wasn't it mr. obama, by any way, and his vice president joe biden. you know, there's a crisis. remember, it started under bush by basically the bailout. you know, there selvedge in all the big banks was, was all done by obama's team, actually

a bomb, a promised he made to promise that you would walk for the what can people and he would take big money out of politics. well, we remember that in their underwear bomber stream, it was not just big money, or courage in full swing in support or hillary clinton. obama was the 1st president who allowed secret services, you know, basically special services to get involved. we remember how they got involved in american politics and suddenly realize we had this new after the intelligence community, you know, something that even the president cannot contradict. you know, the intelligence community has said russia would trump in power and absurdist that may sound where we were supposed to believe it. you know, now the conspiracy theory about, you know, a trump been supported by biden, been supported by the new smell and, and cheney's money. there is a conspiracy theory, everyone agrees, but the theory of our trump been supported by russia is equally absurd. and

everyone was supposed to believe in it. you know. and i quite agree with you on the green new deal. i think president marc wrong, who usually makes very lengthy empty speeches. he has struck a chord with many reporters. i think about a week ago when in his own interview he said that, you know, for decades people were encouraged to get holds out. sightsee just don't take their children to additional costs as you know their cause and know what to us are told, you know, cars are bad, you know, everything you have been doing is just ecologically unsustainable. if they go in, they told the working people for years to change over to diesel and actually exactly, and then that, but no, no, we don't want diesel. i mean, after all of that money was invested, you know, patrick and just as a perfect segue is that this great reset to build back better and it's nothing to do with working. people is better because in spite of working people, i mean,

they want to implement these things through a back door and not through the democratic process because they know that they can't get these people to follow ok because they're, if they're either educated or they're ignorant or they're religious people, there's always something wrong with that part of the electorate. and this is a stroke to short circuit it the in around. go ahead. well, if you look at the effect of lockdowns, especially in the west, i'm talking about developed countries in the west. ok, because there's,, it's more pronounced the did the drop in g.d.p., the loss of civil liberties and rights and so forth. all of this stuff. and the unemployment where the developed were the undeveloped world, the 3rd world,, if you will, was already struggling. and you know, it doesn't have a great g.d.p., so they haven't really felt and living under despots normally, they haven't felt as big of a change. so what this has done is depressed the western economy and almost levelled it out. so it's closer. so there's slightly more normalization between the

3rd world and the developed world, which is what davos says they intend to do. it's what the world economic forum wants to socialize consumption they want to sort of normalize and even out production. except for the very rich, i would suppose. right? yeah, it will if you can hear. the comment you made on fuel is important because if you ban diesel diesel cars and combustion engines, which they've moved forward to 2030 in the u.k. for instance, that's going to basically not only destroy the, a lot of the car manufacturing, but it's going to drive there are things that do require fuel, like aviation, and maritime, and so it's going do is going to drive the price. it's going to restrict the supply of the available supply, the market shrinking. it's going to drive the price up. so the only people who can afford to fly or to ship some of these things by boat, it's going to be very expensive, is going to drive the prices up. and so the billionaire class have no problem,

they'll be able to fly to the mall deaves, they'll be able to go to, you know, the great barrier reef to look at the sharks and what not. all the things that they love doing skiing involved is there no problem, but for the rest of the middle class has been depressed and crushed the working, class forget it. they're on u.b.i., universal basic income in this plan. and the green new deal is being funded by raiding the pensions of the, of the next generation and the current generation in the last generation. and what they call releasing liberating 4 trillion or 10 trillion in to fund green tech. if you remember cylinder under obama, that $500000000.00 boondoggle that produced no solar panels multiply that times $10000.00. that's the sort of money you're talking about with the green new deal that they want to do. this is just an opening for the massive amount of corporate fraud. basically do nothing, projects, jobs for my friends, they're talking about sustainable green jobs. you got to be

a bit. it is this think the example of the combustible engine. i mean, this is what a lot of working people do. their drivers a, their couriers for many people and but equally, if you look at it in red states in the united states, this is absolute necessity, but they're driving forward even weeks. i mean, without any consideration of what they're going to do. i mean, how many, hundreds of thousands or millions of people are involved in that part of the economy. are they just going to be put aside or put them on some kind of low level welfare just says assistance they get through through life? i mean, again, nobody is voting on this. ok, and if it was presented to voters, they would resign only say no good. oh our, i think that it's true a lot on being the united states. there is something wrong of all of these green demagoguery. i mean, i'm all for equality that i'm all for leftist need to look,

you know, i agree, but you know, some of their, formerly ecological leftist r.d.s. in europe are getting just sinister. i mean, the greens seem germany where the symbol of pacifism for many years know they're the biggest enemy, as all russia. they believe every lie about russia and about and about other countries in the east. and i agree with you completely that the more poor people, i'm dependent on the combustion combustion engine air don't want to go for a country. assume there was, are, you know, the evil of baby oil supplies and their gas supplies that they have been providing to reach congress when the green sea in germany. a said, oh, we don't need we don't need north team tool because we're going to have created a new way. you know, well 1st they are, you know, i ain't cheap service to their own people. ok. he may have to jump in, you know, we've run out of time. i want to thank my guests implement in moscow,

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