chair millionaire janet yellen an internet troll and c.e.o. of the center for american progress once again millionaire neera tanden meanwhile the other biggest story of the week was the continued mockery of donald trump and brooklyn bridge troll rudy giuliani's continued toys r us flop sweat temper tantrums over their last election and dash dreams of 4 more years of being the center of everyone's attention because these are the headlines of our day. these are not the news that roughly 52000000 americans this year are facing food insecurity thanks to the cove with 19 crisis or that 87000000 public and private sector workers could potentially lose their federally mandated paid sick and family leave by the end of the year that that's not news or or that despite all of the rest of us getting financially crushed by cope with this year america's $614.00 billionaires like washington post owner jeff bezos or ilan musk saw their collective wealth grow by $931000000000.00 almost

a trillion instead over and over and over and over again we are inundated with a steady stream of left versus right democrat versus republican proud boy vs and while americans do love their simple straightforward good versus evil headlines journalist matt taibbi recently positive a much more insidious motive to the partisan madness beyond making headlines in a recent article he wrote though the off predicted breakout of yugoslavia style sectarian violence hasn't happened yet it's not for want of trying on the part of both politicians and the bigger media organizations he goes on to say essentially in the wake of trump the political class is accepting the inevitability of culture war and urging it on as something prefer. to populist revolt that is the key word populist revolt so today let's dive into the motives behind the media's left vs right culture war paradigm as we start watching the hawks.

in a city streets. that are so slick see the rise this. state . great city displays systemic dissent says so which. so killed us. well come on watching the hawks i am tired of open for and i was a cop 10 joining us today is the one and only matt taibbi the real the head of a t.k. news thank you for always for coming up. next era to talk to some mad since the election of donald trump and 2016 we've seen a massive rise in push and coverage and focus on the on the right versus left paradigm as i mentioned playing out you know in this kind of deplorable versus social justice warrior theme what do you believe is behind this this this push and

one of the some of the most insidious examples that you can think of. what i wrote a book about this actually called haitink which was significantly about the changes in the structure of the news business specifically we used to in the news business hunt the entire audience so companies like a.b.c. c.b.s. and n.b.c. they would be going for everybody and so they had a broad focus in their coverage the new paradigm in this business is that you you look for one demographic and you try to dominate it and the way that you retain your audience is by feeding them bad news about some other people so that's sort of the fox model that they pioneered this but now basically everybody does this and in the trump era it was incredibly easy for people to make money all you had to do was do stories other for or against trump and you had a ready made angry audience that was willing to come back to after day. and how

is this focus on the culture war of the left versus the right actually hurt our ability to confront and fix important issues of racial and wealth inequality across the country. well it's it's incredibly damaging because the culture war in itself is is entirely an educational the only temper titian's of politics that we are allowed to see are the ones that have strong. partisan interpretations so if you're an m.s.n. b.c. . you know if you that that's what you watch you're only going to see takes that blame republicans for every single problem and if you watch fox you're only going to see takes that blame the democrats for every problem whereas most major says so sial issues are bipartisan in nature most of them are complex financial bureaucratic if you want to learn for instance about the costs of the 2008 financial crash or about why military spending goes up every year you're not going

to get that in a partisan interpretation of that is because these are bipartisan issues of bipartisan problems so that's why this kind of cleaving of the news audience is incredibly damaging for americans to they don't they tend not to learn a whole lot except. political hot topics and yeah those political hot texter seem to again kind of pit us against each other rather than actually trying to figure out what our differences are and then trying to you know work together to overcome them and that's one of the biggest problems and when it comes to this divide as you mentioned especially affecting newsrooms is that's what's playing a role in the in the rise in kind of acts of this subject unless we see leaving organized corporate media platforms we saw this recently with you know glenn greenwald in the enter sept is that playing a role in these given these really good journalists saying ok i've had enough time i'm going to try to go out on my own now. yes so there's a there's a divide in approach in the news business i think there's a lot of people who who went into the enter the news business probably in the

ninety's or before and those people come from a tradition where journalists are supposed to maintain at least some kind of a political distance from their subject and they have to be willing to report on both sides the there's a new school that is becoming more dominant where that excepts the idea of a highly politicized narrative driven approach to new. news and so there's a there's an incredible amount of tension within newsrooms right now where people who are not falling in line with the kind of new model where news organizations tend to have a political take and they stick to it and they and they drive the narrative every day those people those are the people who are leaving these organizations whether it's you know i can't speak for glenn greenwald or medically serious but there are there are a lot of people who are kind of balancing out of the legacy media up aeration zz it's interesting when you look at that too because one of the things i notice is

it's all it's it's we've always seen the kind of pitting against both sides in politics but i feel like it's been turned up to 11 specifically in politics where you know it's one thing for the media saying ok we need to put these 2 sides or play to one side or the other but it feels like this here in politics it's pretty much like you know we'll believe a conspiracy theory no matter what it is or who is saying it if it suits our side why do why is that suddenly become this this massive issue this year. well i think the trump era accelerated all these these negative tendencies and. over a period of time i think what it ends up happening is what what starts out as you know merely a commercial strategy to sort of grab one audience or another becomes a real belief in a lot of newsrooms and in within a lot of political parties so it's i think what started off as

a sort of cynical ploy to try to keep audience or to play to a certain. political demographics has become a genuine almost religious belief within a lot of these these. organizations and that's that's the main difference in the in the trump era it's become impossible for people to maintain any kind of neutrality or distance because that's seen as being traitorous. in most organizations that which has made it very difficult for people who believe and then is it as an essential element of this job and you recently launched t.k. news with a subscription based news magazine on subset what inspired that move and what is the benefit of practicing journalism on a subscription based platforms like subs that are both you and your readers. yeah i mean i thought i work on substract like people like glenn greenwald and medically c.s.

now and andrew sullivan also made this movie earlier this summer i was actually did earlier than some of these other folks and for different reasons i had a very good relationship i still do with the legacy media organization but of long work for rolling stone this was more of a professional decision i think the future of media is going to be more subscription based i think the reality is that this is a model that works. in modern america the old model where you journalists are paid sort of indirectly through. advertising revenue that goes up to a boss and that is distributed to you. the funding just isn't there anymore and this is a new way to do it and people like i have stone were heroes of mine and i think the . it's the. now the it is made possible to do that this way isn't i just as it is it does it is a trick you're doing it this way when you know that it's kind of like ok it's all

on me as a dad more pressure knowing that it's like ok it's all on me it's what i'm putting out and i have to mind my p's and q's and make sure i'm totally good turtle wasn't . yes absolutely and and i think that's the major drawback to this approach is that you don't have the legal cover that you would working for a major legacy news operation i mean i've i've been in this business for 30 years and i've been sued a couple of times of never lost but. to entertain the possibility of litigation because it could could ruin you and i think that i were i do worry about young people who get into this business who don't have a lot of experience and don't know what to avoid you know and frankly you can do everything right and still be sued and that's going to be a problem i think there are probably going to be some i profile cases that that are going to be you know kind of sad but with this model you know there's

a brand new world and i think it's good to see though folks like yourself and others kind of really bringing this model of journalism i agree with you in your so that's going to be kind of the future especially for print journalism is that subscription based service because look that's where everything's going nowadays and i wish you luck in that and keep up the great work out there matt it's always a pleasure and honor having you on once again t.k. news with matt taibbi definitely check it out on some stock. and thanks so much ira and thanks to both takers. all right as we're going to break right now that you can also start watching the hawks on demand for the brand new portable t.v. app which is available on all platforms for definitely check it out coming up we cover south africa's medical breakthrough and the world's now forgotten aids pandemic yes that's still a pandemic affecting everyone and then there is hypocrisy afoot in the world of college sports and the cheerleaders are cashing in stay tuned for watching the hawks.

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19 have the world's focus but who it is that the only health crisis that can grab our attention today november 1st is world aids day aids is a pandemic that was known to spread 1st from animals to humans hiv infected more than 77000000 people worldwide killed over 35000000 and maintain one of the most dangerous stigmas of any illness those living in poverty people of color in the

community still suffer at the highest rates even in the bell up world where modern medicine and scientific developments have made treating aids a lot more effective. and today 2 thirds of all new hiv infections and deaths occur in africa but with all of the focus on coping 19 cash strapped areas and developing nations will be further setback in their efforts to reduce and eliminate hiv spread they only anti-virals have largely been the key to a long dating life for those living with hiv aids once in a media definite with access to in the use of daily anti-virus aids patients can live well into their senior years in 2000 by the us president george w. bush launched the president's emergency plan for aids relief pepfar it provided $6000000000.00 a year to deliver anti-viral drugs to low and middle income countries it had bipartisan support in the plan was at the time the largest global health care

initiative but now more than 30 years into the hiv aids pandemic over 13000000 people still don't have access to lifesaving anti-viral therapy or treatment. stigma about hiv aids discrimination lack of health care access fear and misinformation continue to keep hiv positive people away from the care they need. the bike to eradicate hiv aids is alive and well even if the virus isn't making daily headlines people are suffering people are dying we have the drugs the treatments and the medical capability it's up to us to ensure that those drugs and treatments reach the populations that need them the most. that our guy could mcgrew through more you know the tragedy is. we kind of seem to get lost sometimes with what's directly in front of us and up that's a bad thing i'm going to obviously support the we're putting all this effort into covert and things like that but we can't forget about the other places of meat especially when it comes to these kind of and these kind of viruses and deadly

viruses absolutely and this one we've been working on you know america as a nation but also a lot of our a lot of the developed world for now close to 35 years one of the problems that it's consistent is that the cost is astronomical so over a 16 year period the world's been approximately $560000000000.00 on hiv aids treatment with $1700000.00 new infections per year and every person living with hiv needing some type of lifelong treatment it isn't something that they can treat you . get better and it is what is so staining that type of cost you have to have health care support you have to have access to the medications it's not the medications don't exist if there are millions of people across the globe don't have the ability to afford them or they are in areas where those pharmaceutical drugs just are not available to them in the real tragedy and that these are the kind of things that we have to look at i think moving forward with covert because it's like if we if we don't look at the mistakes that we made with the aids epidemic and

pandemic if we don't look at that most of those mistakes and learn from them then we will warn than likely repeat them with coburn and one of the biggest mistakes that we made in the aids epidemic was the stigma we put around those who had the disease absolutely and i think that that's that's one of the most frustrating parts and it still exists today was also about it like it's in the past tense but with hiv aids one of the biggest difference between that and prove it is that hiv aids was seen as. behavioral issues so you had it because of specific behaviors that you did because it was seen war and people of color specifically black people but also in. populations the idea was these are these are bad people these people have somehow created a swarm of this affecting them more than anybody else and the reason why it affected them more than anybody else the same thing with kobe it is because of a lack of health care acts that there wasn't enough availability for testing there was again a lot of stigma around it and you know when you have that it scares people from going and getting the treatment that they need and if you don't have health care then there is no cheap way for you to get it i think we have to realize that as

well and the other thing we saw with the aids epidemic was a 1st hit in the eighty's and where the real tragedies of the was because it 1st started in the you know in the in the homo sexual population and then you know kind of spread from there you had a lot of entrenched ideology and fight over the costs at the end of the day you know when they when they figured out like ok that we might be able to find it in the blood banks and things like that then you suddenly have them and all it's too expensive to put that one especially when it only affects this population absolutely they chose who they thought that we should spend the money on and ironically in america and in other countries when it is seen as poor when it's seen as destitute when it's seen as people that are undesirables the want to win the urge to spend money to help to eradicate something a month a month that population is always the minute also when it's not blonde haired blue eyed christian white folks who have a lot of money. they're not going to see that big of a push to solve the problem exactly i think that one of the one of the greatest

things that we have now is prep which is supposed to protect against hiv exposure but again it's one of those barrier type of situations where we have to scale up how many people can actually use it because the cost is so high in those blonde hair blue eyed people somehow have x. this but everybody else really does and that's the real danger comes to treating these diseases. what's in the con. tracht well for starters rules regulations compensation and oftentimes clauses about when where and who can use your personal image and likeness those types of contract clauses have come under fire recently where high profile names like dave chappelle have gone after media giants like comedy central for limiting the use of his name and image even though he hasn't been a part of the network for over a decade this type of issue isn't just a singular one for entertainers college athletes have the exact same problem the n.c. double standards prohibit college athletes from making money off of their image and likeness they are barred from endorsing products making podcasts videos or anything

else they can draw income from while playing college sports considering many of the athletes particularly in football and basketball are black and from low income households this is always been problematic it's not like the athletes are being paid even though they are making millions for their respective universities but the rules system doesn't even seem to apply to everyone the college athletes allowed to make big bucks and increase their personal wealth meanwhile still schools still be in school or cheerleaders the n.c. double a doesn't regulate them like they do other sports and joining us now with more on this story is our chief sports producer to him welcome or do hi. well regina a lot packed here. for years has stressed the importance that student athletes keep their amateur status so they weren't allowed to make money outside of well they were allowed to make money in general their scholarships were seen as their you know their payment for actually performing at school cheerleading isn't governed by

the way as other sports but does this cause a conflict is they can earn thousands upon thousands while these athletes have so much to lose if they even attempt to do the same thing absolutely i think the hypocrisy stands in the fact that to be fair on the devil's advocate 1st the answer to play doesn't see cheerleading as you would see football. basketball even or non-revenue sports like track and field golf soccer they see it more as if you can say intramural in a way but they're a cheerleader the cheerleader is therefore by that notion do not have to go to coaches or any compliance officers and ask hey l'oreal reached out to me or kate spade reached out to me they would love me to wear their hair dye or wear this jacket the set yuri's on game day they don't have to worry about that they can do it and we've seen the make thousands of dollars on social media they've been able to be like hi i'm so in sochi they are from the university of oklahoma here's my loci bracelet they're able to say that you can't be

a football player from the years to oklahoma and say hey i'm here to talk about animal crossing on twitch and make money because then you'll be so compliance issue so the future pockets you because you're seeing a lot of these chillers who are predominately girls who predominately white girls who probably come from very middle upper income families not have to deal with same issues that the players are cheering for have to deal with in the n.c.a.a. of late needs to realize that well and look name him and i think we all have that kind of conversation this table for we all feel that college athletes should get some kind of reimbursement or something for their for what's going on but name image and likeness but the forefront of the. more recent more sort of recent months many cheerleaders actually think that other athletes should be able to make money off of brand sponsorship. or the perks that they're able to do does this give these athletes i mean leverage when saying like hey look you let the cheerleaders do it why not let us do it if they're going to put our face in like a year sports game or whatever maybe. we'll miss that one yes and no yes the sense that they are being both about the are going well these are people representing the

school shooters you represent the school that they go to tournament they go to the big bowl games they are as the face of the program ok cool so this local players are also the face of their program they should be able to do the same thing now because they're an actual student athlete they receive scholarships. you know stipend for food housing etc they don't have to worry about the. you know they're worried about losing any of that if you go to a ballgame for example tie and i mean and you have a jacket you just don't want to wear you myself and i can get the money for it and suitable i can come down and almost revoke your scholarship for that or put your school under a lot of scrutiny you go through different periods of wonders i sort of lie in here and so yes i knew that what he was actually back even though your name is not on it just says like the belt the ball game really cool great so it's very interesting the fact that hopefully this rulers are able to give more boost and we're seeing it in congress we're also seeing california states where they're trying to make a law saying hey if you want to have a stream instrumental crossing for 7 hours and make money off of it go ahead and do

it we don't have your football player it's your name it's your face you should be able to get that you want them totally agree regina universities have tried to circumvent gender equality rules by giving varsity status to charities and those teams get other perks some other perks that are equivalent to other half what it teams in that case should they also be treated the same as major scholarship athletes yes so you're looking at the cheerleaders for example not every school does this you might not have a d 3 school that is able to give their tours r.c. status so you have cheerleaders they will get scholarships based on grades you know other opt out of performances things like that so they are receiving some scholarships are not big there not to be a full ride for per se but at $82.00 or do one school you might get a significant amount of money but they're gifted as varsity status and that's where it becomes a little bit of a gender issue as well the financial issue where now you have college athletes who are predominately women in cheerleading now wanting to have these scholarships they're wanting to be able to be seen as student athletes and you know you have

people who say they should because they are feeling the sport i can't do it so it's like true if not more than a thank you so much for coming out of breaking it down for us which it always has or haven't you want and that ladies and gentlemen is our show for today remember in this world we are told we love love so i told you all love you i am a rover and i'm of these across the pond watching all those hawks author another great thing about. thank you. the.

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