and we are very much grateful to russians who came to. to support our effort than that they also went and one of the it's a most difficult areas in back of them and i think that they've got the occasion to russia. have the chance both to learn what to do and what not to do not the way things are looking for the moment thanks for choosing our team today coming away now here it's watching a hoax enjoy. make things become more extreme and eat right when this is a sign breaking norms not necessarily in a good way. as the. right. frame is the

reality it. greetings and salutations us this week the corporate media outlets like m.s.n. b.c. in the new york times were gushing over the every day american appeal of united states president elect joe biden's announcement of his supposedly crack team of economic advisers which features such working class luminaries as expo drawers served chair millionaire janet yellen and internet troll and c.e.o. of the center for american progress once again millionaire neera tanden meanwhile the other biggest story of the week was the continued marker e. of donald trump and brooklyn bridge troll rudy giuliani's continued toys

r us flops what temper tantrums over there last election and dashed dreams of 4 more years of being the center of everyone's attention yes these are the headlines of our day. these are not the news that roughly 52000000 americans this year are facing food insecurity thanks to the cope with 19 crisis or that 87000000 public and private sector workers could potentially lose their federally mandated paid sick and family leave by the end of the year that that's not news or or that despite all of the rest of us getting financially crushed by kovar this year america's $614.00 billionaires like washington post owner jeff bezos are evil on musk saw their collective wealth grow by $931000000000.00 almost a trillion instead over and over and over and over again we are inundated with a steady stream of left versus right democrat versus republican proud boy vs and and while americans do love their simple straightforward good versus evil headlines

journalist matt taibbi recently positive a much more insidious motive to the partisan madness beyond making headlines in a recent article he wrote though the off predicted breakout of yugoslavia style sectarian violence hasn't happened yet it's not for want of trying on the part of both politicians and the bigger media organizations he goes on to say essentially in the wake of trump the political class is accepting the inevitability of culture war and urging it on as something prefer. to populist revolt that is the key word populist revolt so to date let's dive into the motives behind the media's left vs right culture war paradigm as we start watching the hawks. if you will go on a cd the streets. are so slick see the rises you always stay see a. great city displays systemic dissent says the late show

which was so when the guild. welcomed on watching the. i robot and i'm sick and joining us today is the one and only matt taibbi the head of news thank you for always for coming out. thanks tara to talk to some matt since the election of donald trump and 2016 we've seen a massive rise in push and coverage and focus on the on the right versus left paradigm as i mentioned playing out you know in this kind of deplorable versus social justice warrior theme what do you believe is behind this this this push and one of the some of the most insidious examples that you can think of. i wrote a book about this actually called haitink which was significantly about the changes in the structure of the news business specifically we used to in the news business

hunt the entire audience so companies like a.b.c. c.b.s. and n.b.c. they would be going for everybody and so they had a broad focus in their coverage the new paradigm in this business is that you you look for one demographic and you try to dominate it and the way that you retain your audience is by feeding them bad news about some other people so that's sort of the fox model that they pioneered this but now basically everybody does this and in the trump era it was incredibly easy for people to make money all you had to do was do stories other for or against trump and you had a ready made angry audience that was willing to come back day after day. and how does this focus on the culture war of the left versus the right actually hurt our ability to confront and fix important issues of racial and wealth inequality across the country. well it's it's incredibly damaging because the culture war in

itself is is entirely an educational the only terp or titian's of politics that we are allowed to see are the ones that have strict partisan interpretations so if you're an m.s.n. b.c. . you know if you just does what you watch you're only going to see takes that blame republicans for every single problem and if you watch fox you're only going to see takes that blame the democrats for every problem whereas most major says so sial issues are bipartisan in nature most of them are complex financial bureaucratic if you want to learn for instance about the costs of the 2008 financial crash or about why military spending goes up every year you're not going to get that in a partisan interpretation of that is because these are bipartisan issues of bipartisan problems so that's why this kind of cleaving of the news audience is incredibly damaging for americans to they don't they tend not to learn a whole lot except. political hot topics and yeah those political hot textor seem

to again kind of pit us against each other rather than actually trying to figure out where what our differences are and then trying to you know work together to overcome them and that's one of the biggest problems and when it comes to this divide as you mentioned especially affecting newsrooms is that's what's playing a role in the in the rise in kind of acts of this subject unless we see leaving organized corporate media platforms we saw this recently with you know glenn greenwald in the end of sept is that playing a role in these given these really good journalists saying ok i've got enough time i'm going to try to go out on my own now. yes so there's a there's a divide in approach in the news business i think there's a lot of people who who went into the. a entered the news business probably in the ninety's or before and those people come from a tradition where journalists are supposed to maintain at least some kind of a political distance from their subject and they have to be willing to report on both sides the there's

a new school that is becoming more dominant where that excepts the idea of a highly politicized narrative driven approach to news and so there's a there's an incredible amount of tension within newsrooms right now where people who are not falling in line with the kind of new model where news organizations tend to have a political take and they stick to it and they and they drive the narrative every day those people those are the people who are leaving these organizations whether it's you know i can't speak for glenn greenwald or medically seeis but there are there are a lot of people who are kind of balancing out of the legacy be operations it's interesting when you look at that too because one of the things i notice is it's all it's it's we've always seen the kind of pitting against both sides in politics but i feel like it's been turned up to 11 specifically in politics where you know it's one thing for the media saying ok we need to put these 2 sides or play to one side or the other but it feels like this here in politics it's pretty much like you

know we'll believe a conspiracy theory no matter what it is or who is saying it if it suits our side why do why is that suddenly become this this massive issue this year. well i think the trump era accelerated all these these negative tendencies and. over a period of time i think what it ends up happening is what what starts out as you know merely a commercial strategy to sort of grab one audience or another becomes a real belief in a lot of newsrooms and within a lot of political parties so it's i think what started off as a sort of. cynical ploy to try to keep audience or to play to certain. political demographics has become a genuine almost religious belief within a lot of these these. organizations and that's that's the main difference in the in

the trump era it's become impossible for people to maintain any kind of neutrality or distance because that's seen as being traitorous. in most organizations that which has made it very difficult for people who believe in that is a an essential element of this job and you recently launched take a news with me a subscription based news magazine on subs that what inspired that move and what is the benefit of practicing journalism on subscription based platforms like subs that are both you and your readers. yeah i mean i thought i work on substract like people like glenn greenwald and medically c.s. now and andrew sullivan also made this movie earlier this summer i was actually did earlier than some of these other folks and for different reasons i had a very good relationship i still do with the legacy media organization that of long worked for rolling stone this was more of

a professional decision i think the future of media is going to be more subscription based i think the reality is that this is a model that works. in modern america the old model where you journalists are paid sort of indirectly through. advertising revenue that goes up to a boss and that is distributed to you. the funding just isn't there anymore and this is a new way to do it and people like i have stone were heroes of mine and i think the . it's the. now the it is made possible to do that this way isn't i just as it is as it does it is it trickier doing it this way when you know that it's kind of like ok it's all on me as a dad more pressure knowing that it's like ok it's all on me it's what i'm putting out and i have i have to mind my p's and q's and make sure i'm totally good turtle wasn't. yes absolutely and i think that's the major drawback

to this approach is that you don't have the legal cover that you would working for a major legacy news operation i mean i've i've been in this business for 30 years and i've been sued a couple of times i've never lost but. to entertain the possibility of litigation because it could could ruin you and i think that i were i do worry about young people who get into this business who don't have a lot of experience and don't know what to avoid you know and frankly you can do everything right and still be sued and that's going to be a problem i think there are probably going to be some i profile cases that that are going to be you know kind of sad with this model you know there's a brand new world and i think it's good to see though folks like yourself and others kind of really bringing this model of journalism i agree with you in your so that's going to be kind of the future especially for print journalism is that subscription based service because look that's where everything's going nowadays

and i wish you luck in that and keep up the great work out there matt it's always a pleasure and honor having you on once again t.k. knew that matt taibbi definitely check it out on some stock. thanks so much ira thank you both so if you're. all right as we're going to break right now that you can also start watching the hawks on demand for the brand new portable t.v. app which is available on all platforms for definitely check it out coming up we cover south africa's medical breakthrough in the world now forgotten aids pandemic yes that's still a pandemic affecting everyone and then there is hypocrisy afoot in the world of college sports and the cheerleaders are cashing in stay tune watching the hawks. always be polite never engage with the negative aided or constitutional officers.

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coburg 19 has the world's focus but it is not the only health crisis that should grab our attention today november 1st is world aids day aids 2 is a pandemic that was known to spread 1st from animals to humans hiv infected more than 77000000 people worldwide killed over 35000000 and maintained one of the most

dangerous stigmas of any illness those living in poverty people of color in the l.g.b. t. community still suffer at the highest rates even in the bell up world where modern medicine and scientific developments have made treating aids a lot more effective. and today 2 thirds of all new hiv infections and deaths occur in africa but with all of the focus on coping 19 cash strapped areas and developing nations will be further setback in their efforts to reduce and eliminate hiv spread . they only anti-virals have largely been the key to a long dating life for those living with hiv aids once in a media definite with access to in the use of daily anti-violence aids patients can live well into their senior years in 2000 by the us president george w. bush launched the president's emergency plan for aids relief pepfar it provided $6000000000.00 a year to deliver anti-viral drugs to low and middle income countries that have

bipartisan support in the plan was at the time the largest global health care initiative but now more than 30 years into the hiv aids pandemic over 13000000 people still don't have access to lifesaving anti-viral therapy or treatment. stigma about hiv aids discrimination lack of health care access fear and misinformation continue to keep hiv positive people away from the care they need. the fight to eradicate hiv aids is alive and well even if the virus isn't making daily headlines people are suffering people are dying we have the drugs the treatments and the medical capability it's up to us to ensure that those drugs and treatments reach the populations that need them the most. that our guy could mcgrew through more you know the tragedy is. we kind of seem to get lost sometimes with what's directly in front of us not that's a bad thing i mean it obviously support that we're putting all this effort into covert and things like that but we can't forget about the other places of meat

especially when it comes to these kind of pandemics and these kind of viruses and deadly viruses absolutely and this one we've been working on you know america as a nation but also a lot of our a lot of the developed world for now close to 35 years one of the problems that is consistent is that the cost is astronomical so over a 16 year period the world's been approximately $560000000000.00 on hiv aids treatment with $1700000.00 new infections per year and every person living with hiv needing some type of lifelong treatment it isn't something that they can treat you . get better and it is what is sustaining that type of cost you have to have health care support you have to have access to the medications it's not the medications don't exist if there are millions of people across the globe don't have the ability to afford them or they're in areas where those pharmaceutical drugs just are not available to them in the real tragedy and that these are the kind of things that we have to look at i think moving forward with covert because it's like if we if we

don't look at the mistakes that we made with the aids epidemic and pandemic if we don't look at that move those mistakes and learn from them then we will warn them likely repeat them with coburn and one of the biggest mistakes that we made in the aids epidemic was the stigma we put around those who had the disease absolutely and i think that that's that's one of the most frustrating parts and it still exists today was also about it like it's in the past tense but with hiv aids one of the biggest differences between that and probe it is that hiv aids was seen as. behavioral issues so you had it because of specific behaviors that you did because it was see more in people of color specifically black people but also in. populations the idea was these are these are bad people these people have somehow created a swarm of this affecting them more than anybody else and the reason why it affected them more than anybody else the same thing with kobe it is because of a lack of health care act that there wasn't enough availability for testing there was again a lot of stigma around it and you know when you have that it scares people from going and getting the treatment that they need and if you don't have health care

then there is no cheap way for you to get a good think we have to realize that as well and the other thing we saw with the with the aids epidemic with a 1st hit in the eighty's and where the real tragedies of the was because it 1st started in the you know in the in the homo sexual population and then you know kind of spread from there you had a lot of entrenched ideology and fight over the costs at the end of the day you know when they when they figured out like ok that we might be able to find it in the blood banks and things like that then you suddenly have them and all it's too expensive to put one especially when it only affects this population absolutely they chose who they thought that we should spend the money on and ironically in america and in other countries when it is seen as poor when it's seen as destitute when it's seen as people that are undesirables the want to win the urge to spend money to help to eradicate something a month a month that population is always the minute also when it's not blonde haired blue eyed christian white folks who have a lot of money. they're not going to see that big of

a push to solve the problem exactly i think that one of the one of the greatest things that we have now is prep which is supposed to protect against hiv exposure but again it's one of those barrier type of situations where we have to scale up how many people can actually use it because the cost is so high and those blonde hair blue eyed people somehow have x. this but everybody else really does and that's the real danger comes to treating these diseases. what's in the con. track well for starters rules regulations compensation and oftentimes clauses about when where and who can use your personal image and likeness those types of contract clauses that come under fire recently where high profile names like dave chappelle have gone after media giants like comedy central for limiting the use of his name and image even though he hasn't been a part of that network for over a decade this type of issue isn't just a singular one for entertainers college athletes have the exact same problem the n.c. double a feeder is prohibited college athletes are making money off of their image and

likeness they are barred from endorsing products making pod cast videos or anything else they can draw income from while playing college sports considering many of the athletes particularly in football and basketball are black and for low income households this is always been problematic it's not like the athletes are being paid even though they are making millions for their respective university. but the rules system doesn't even seem to apply to everyone the college athletes are allowed to make big bucks and increase their personal wealth meanwhile still schools still be in school or cheerleaders. doesn't regulate them like they do other sports and joining us now with more on this story is our chief sports producer to him welcome or do hi. well regina a lot packed here. for years has stressed the importance that student athletes keep their amateur status so they weren't allowed to make money outside of well they were allowed to make money in general their scholarships were seen as they are you

know their payment for actually performing at school cheerleading isn't governed by the way as other sports but does this cause a conflict is they can earn thousands upon thousands while these athletes have so much to lose if they even attempt to do the same thing absolutely i think the hope ocracy stance on the fact that to be fair on the devil's advocate 1st the answer to play doesn't see cheerleading as you would see football basketball even are not revenue sports like track and field golf soccer they see it more as if you can say intramural in a way but there are chilled the cheerleaders there for by that notion do not have to go to coaches or any compliance officers and ask hey lori l. reached out to me or kate spade reached out to me they would love me to wear their hair dye or wear this jacket and set your ears on game day they don't have to worry about that they can do it and we've seen the make thousands of dollars on social media they've been able to be like hi i'm the so and so chiller from the university

of oklahoma here's my local bracelet they're able to say that you can't be a football player from the years in oklahoma and say hey i'm here to talk about animal crossing on twitch and make money because then you'll be so compliance issue so the future poverty because you're seeing a lot of these chillers who are predominately girls who predominately white girls who probably come from very middle upper income families not have to deal with same issues at the players their. cheering for have to deal in the end needs to realize that well and look maim him and i think we all have that kind of conversation at this table for we all feel that college acidly should get some kind of reimbursement or something for there for what's going on but mainly images like this but the forefront of the. more recent more sordid recent months many cheerleaders actually think that other athletes should be able to make money off a brand sponsorship. or the perks that they're able to do does this give these athletes i mean leverage when saying like hey look you let the cheerleaders do it why not let us do it if they're going to put our face in like a year sports game or whatever maybe. we'll miss that one yes and no yes the sense

that they are being both about the are going well these are people representing the school shooters you represent the school that they go to tournament they go to the big bowl games they are as the face of the program ok cool so these local players are also the face of their program they should be able to do the same thing now because they're an actual student athlete they receive scholarships. you know stipend for food housing etc they don't have to worry about the you know they're worried about losing any of that if you go to a ballgame for example tie and i mean and you have a jacket you just don't know where you myself and i can get the money for it and suitable i can come down and almost revoke your scholarship for that or put your school under a lot of scrutiny you go through different periods of wonders i sort of i am here and so yes i do that here honey was actually right here even though your name is not on it just says like the belt the ball game really cool great so it's very interesting the fact that hopefully this year were able to give more boost and we're seeing it in congress we're also seeing california states where they're trying to make a law saying hey if you want to have

a church stream instrumental crossing for 7 hours and make money off of it go ahead and do it we don't have your football player it's your name it's your face you should be able to get that you want them totally agree regina universities have tried to circumvent gender equality rules by giving varsity status to charities and those teams get other perks some other perks that are equivalent to other athletic teams in that case should they also be treated the same in. is major scholarship athletes yes so you're looking at the cheerleaders for example not every school does this you might not have a d 3 school that is able to give their tours r.c. status so you have children they will get scholarships based on grades you know other opt out of performances things like that so they are receiving some scholarships are not big there not to be a full ride for per se but at $82.00 or do one school you get a significant amount of money but there get to this varsity status and that's where it becomes a little bit of a gender issue as well a financial issue where now you have college athletes who are predominately women in cheerleading you know now wanting to have these scholarships they're wanting to

be able to be seen as student athletes and you know you have people who say they should because they are feeling the sport i can't do it so it's like fascinating but it's truly a fascinating subject matter than a take you so much for coming out of breaking it down for us or is it always or is or having you on and that ladies and gentlemen is our show for today remember in this world we are not told we love them up so i tell you all love you i am a robot and i'm obese across keep on watching all those hawks out there another great thing about it. join me every thursday on the alec simon show and i'll be speaking to guests of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then.

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