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hi i'm max keiser this is the kaiser report what happens when people lose trust in the fia money in the central banks and now that's a we're going to find out states right well i know our audience has been protected for years from what is coming and what is happening now we've been warning you about the collapse of the few system and of course it is you're right and we've been telling you because gold silver all that stuff here we see some headlines about this you know of course over the past week we saw a big plane hit a new all time high back up to it didn't die like all the media had said and in fact we had paul tudor jones and we had stan truckin miller then we had micro strategy then we had in our. black rock lows

a big people get into the space and then guggenheim also said now that they're starting to buy big client so turkey has no cure for a gold craze that leaves the lira vulnerable turkey is trying to stabilize their currency which has been plunging over the past few years and part of the problem is that while foreign investors are piling in and driving up that layer higher than it had fallen domestic savers businesspeople and stuff like that they're piling into gold because they're very familiar with gold they have a 3000 strong history year history with gold so that is kind of destabilized saying their local currency right well this is the game that central banks play with fear money and the gold market so the demand for gold is always there to some degree and the gold bullion banks on the central banks they play around with interest rates and they owe as get that 3 or 4 percent move up in gold which they.

they then scalp on an almost daily basis they come in and they dump huge short shelves or should say short sells into the gold market and they scout the market continuously that's why gold prices been very sluggish it's moved up over the years but it's very sluggish compare the amount of creation and debt creation but what happens if you lose faith in the central bank utterly like what's happening in turkey people are not going to be if in playing these games anymore they're just going to go along goal and if the central bank of turkey collapses they're willing to accept that risk because number one their gold will skyrocket and number 2 they're ready for a change and the government there is not the levering the changes that people want so the way to passively resist against the government is to own gold or to own bitcoin so in gold yes as you mention in turkey very very familiar with gold much more so than big but the concept is the same globally people are now taking the same passive resistant approach to rogue central banks by plowing in to bitcoin as

a form of passive resistance that's see that globally now well you know i talk about this in depth in orange hell podcasts over the weekend on sundays and so we are able to explore it over 2 hours like these sort of issues but these are part of the cycles that are queer are colliding all over the world the 4th turning you see you know it's basically america's on track sinked up with the rest of the world now so we have these generational shift that are happening we also have these huge like maltese century geo political cycles happening so i think it's just there's a common the common thing is people sense that this is all falling apart they sense that collapse of a big power that happens in nature as well if you know that the alpha lion is starting to weaken a little bit the group can sense it 1st they know when they're you know when when the big power is declining and. you see that but you know preston pish who we've

spoken to before and here he's a great macro economy economist but he also talks a lot about decline and in reference to this bloomberg piece about gold he says and now as to the real story bloomberg bequeathing up 218 percent and there are while gold is up 66 percent gold performance in turkey relative to big down 69 percent on the annual basis the turks are wed really tight to gold that's something in their culture for a very long time much more so than in america for example so you know however once they start to also shift into bitcoin then you could see a stampede there their imports on gold into turkey were massive like it's over $22000000000.00 so far so you know it's soaring there so once they start importing big coin you know we're going to see this in all countries massagers turkey we're not picking on turkey but if it's going to happen to all countries maybe the united

states might have to last but it will happen here right won't we know for a fact that j.p. morgan just played a 1000000000 dollar fine for manipulating the gold market yes this is something we've been reporting on for 10 years that they were manipulating and breaking the law and manipulating the gold market they finally paid a fine to that effect so the recent weakness in gold in the past week or so this is the folks like j.p. morgan and others flooding the market with paper claims on gold sell orders for gold that doesn't exist that's been documented to be true because they desperately don't want people to get ahead of their ability to manipulate the global economy using interest rates and central banks by buying gold but what big coin is is he can't do manipulate because in this way because 1st of all there is no paper market . like there is in the gold market and even if one develops which is highly unlikely given the amount of catching up bitcoin has to do to catch up to gold we

won't see rilya to regain his market in bitcoin to the extent of gold until because he gets to 4 or $500000.00 per bitcoin but even so the ability for private key holders to pull the rug out from any derivatives ponzi scheme is real and any derivatives trader knows that and they're not willing to go make a risk on betting on manipulation of bitcoin like they will with gold because they know in the case of gold the amount of fakes so waters is virtually infinite and really hypothecation particularly in the city of london is in fact by definition infinite so this is why because when is the ultimate passive resistance that is the ultimate such a bank killer right well also in the pages of bloomberg this past week was niall ferguson who mentioned as well he discussed between and said that this is the future right and he said yes as

a hedge against inflation but also about sovereignty and issue of sovereignty so this is going to be really important in these this sort of collision of all these cycles happening is that individual sovereignty will become very important as. the geopolitics might get a little bit let's call it funky right like it might get a little bit more difficult and i think the big point is unique with that is that it's very difficult to cross any border from turkey with that 2 and a half kilo bar of you know of gold it's east and out you get noticed well let me make this recommendation to countries around the world as this idea of a global reset is being talked about by the i.m.f. they will there will be. sit down with the g. 20 nations or cheese 7 nations and they will do a bretton woods like reset of the global economy and they're going to do it based

in large part on gold and gold ownership but i would say this to turkey and to every other current country that's thinking about this when you sit down to the reset table with tristan what are as much because in your back pocket as possible to give you leverage otherwise you're going to get creamed you're going to walk away from the table massively under on happy maxa still in a pre christine legarde to the e.c.b. she said that you see requests from the i.m.f. and. i don't even know we don't like who pays attention anymore right you have big point you don't need to pay attention let me revise this to when you sit down at the table for the global reset the new print noise with whoever is running the i.m.f. at the time. if you don't have any bitcoin in your back pocket you're going to be miserable because that's the only stick you have to leverage that's right i mean i think gold will play a part in that as well so there is that gold will play

a part in the new bretton woods but it's coming and it's coming soon and 2021 is the 50th anniversary of an all fia world so i think it's important i saw a great tweet along the lines i forget who it was probably dan held and he said that you know the dollar is 49 years old the global reserve dollar standard that's 49 years old it's still an experiment people acts like oh between us experimental and yes it is but it's survived 11 years and it gets harder and harder whereas the u.s. dollar gets softer and softer since its 49 years so you know like 49 years ago 4748 years ago or is 46 years ago 45 years ago you know in that sort of time here you could have a paul volcker who could raise interest rates to 20 percent because the. it was still hard and the economy here therefore was still made of industrial production and wealth creation now 50 years later as of next year we're soft we have no more

productive capacity we have no industrial capacity and so it we can even raise interest rates of on one for is that excellent point i mean the hardness of the dollar's reach jello like consistency and it's it's just not hard at all it's. you know hammering some jello to the wall like that's the u.s. dollar that's everybody that's the great reset as well like they're trying to peg all these currencies and try to stabilize this global monetary system and yet gold has been around for 5000 years unlike the dollar which is only $49.00 almost 50 years old the gold has how that's value for 5000 years bit quaint is an experiment that is looks like it's displacing gold and could eat some of its lunch however i don't think it'll you know gold is not going the way of the dollar that's for sure not not at all but if you want to leverage at the very recent negotiating table the

more because you have the more leverage are going to have that some say well speaking of leverage this is the final bit on this story the reuters analysis of this this turkey has no cure for gold craze and what they're saying is that turkish lira stuck between bullish foreigners and bearish locals turkey's lira is caught in a tug of war between foreign investors who cheered a big rate rise on government reform promises and locals who remain cautious and are stocking up on gold and dollars the lira soward some 12 percent after erdogan replaced the central bank chief and finance minister in a shock overhaul earlier this month in the following week foreigners snapped up $5000000000.00 in turkish assets but events slid back 5 percent this week as turks a local company stepped up to buy $2500000000.00 and hard currencies that was see. as a discount so you're going to see this sort of tug of war as the great reset as the 4th turning happens as all these sort of shifts and cycles happen and they're

they're going global because we're so hyper globalize and it's such a just in time social media connected algorithmic driven world that these sort of things could have huge knock on effects whereas you know this sort of action would have taken months just 50 years ago the start of the dollar standard right the turkish layer is much more volatile than bickley. turkish lira may know my experience at death rattle they don't pop up here and there but like all theocracies a setting for the fed currency graveyard for currencies get softer coin and gold get harder you know that's the point of this it doesn't matter what current currency it is at this point once once the trust has gone once to the face in that currency and the system is gone it's hard to force it back like there's no paul volcker to come to the rescue of the central bank system speaking of taking a break we're going to take a break there we come back much more coming your way. and

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come back i mean i want to know. about. part of a. lot of people to tune into. some of the. continuity for change this is what's being announced when considering a potential by foreign policy trump made a point to undo obama's legacy when fighting do the same to trump's like the city or is this all only for continuity drives foreign policy not the occupant in the middle. welcome back to the cause or report imax guys are trying to go to michael pena

pepto port dot com michael welcome back to the kaiser report it's always great to be on one of the most brilliant minds on wall street congratulations for making executive global magazine's front cover i know i was on the front cover of once but they never said that i was one of those well well i thought i thank i have to pick why for this the you know it's a tank but we'll get to that a moment 1st of all i want to pick your brain on some bigger topics there so you know and i know that the world's been printing money out of hand all the central banks are deeply in debt and now the i.m.f. is demanding a new bretton woods now what does this mean michael what can we anticipate we're going to have to tie the i turns he's to something i believe it'll be gold i'm sure you believe it will be some kind of cryptic currency but the idea that our central bank central bank that belongs to the world's reserve currency. could one time in their lives spend trends $85000000000.00

a month and we thought that was off the wall now they're printing $120000000000.00 their challenge fitting on her in $20000000000.00 if you got each and every month. it is absurd so grab the center central banks and some fashion. the link one each of gold if you who probably say bitcoin well there's one thing we can do the children families are that's shorter to originally in 1913 to be an emergency lender of last resort and then more earth and evolve into an organization that is now supporting really state stocks trade yuri's it. can sure abandon it and now is even going to be charged with ending racism so we need to fetter the central bank for sure frei because a sam's like the central bank has become this all knowing deity and people are going as you point out they want the central bank to fix racism they want the

central bank to fix climate change they want the central bank to affect inequality and in this has become a cult over there more so than at any time and. you know gold certainly would be the one of the top beneficiaries of this money rampant money printing goal seems to be kind of stuck in a rut at the moment just pull back before a bigger move what's happening the fact is that gold is real genuine money and it trades at such so what is real money done doesn't like real money that doesn't pay a yield doesn't like rising real interest rates and this would still go in fact i want to record talking about a vaccine deadzone that would occur sometime towards the end of the year and i'd still minors and i saw almost all michael now i have 5 percent position in gold or only 0 after making a good return on it earlier this year. the fact is that your rising religious rates

don't do not bode well for a silver and especially go ringback because it's real money bitcoin on the other hand is not money in my opinion it's a commodity it's raised like a commodity it has the volatility aspects of the commodity and it's reacting on the same. functionality as cowperwood or you see was happening in corner cocoa or you can you know some other commodities. it is acting as a store of value and a hedge against the reshaping currency appreciating dollar much more than gold would because as i said gold is money if your money is competing with the odds and is getting a higher interest rate then goal is going to go down that's exactly what's 'd he saying because he is acting like a store of value that same to be the prevailing wisdom because when he talked to people like the folks at j.p. morgan blackrock potter jones now stan truckin miller you know they they've all

started take a possession they've got in the case stan druckenmiller he's got a call physician that he's got a pick point possession so the institutional money same sarette the guys because it's value as a store of value and they are talking about inflation and how to cut and paul tudor jones us words because it would be the fastest horse in the race so. you know if rates are rising now that doesn't sound inflationary to me. you know what what's your take on this if interest rates are rising it doesn't sound inflationary here in the aca is it supports the dollar and then a rising dollar would be would be deflationary not inflationary well if you look what happened in the seventy's and mean you know interest rates tend to rise commensurate with inflation ok so this is this is not my is that we have been really dry history of who was the who was the interest rate on zimbabwe. you know

look what's happening in turkey so you know is there a sense or eyes of the it with rising inflation and real interest rates or the death knell for gold you know i am led to be you know i would like to be someone who espouses a bit coin and protect her and she's in general i certainly miss this is the 1st initial wave and i miss this next wave which could be a double cup i'm not sure if it is or isn't yet time to tell. but i will play. i have to understand a fiduciary i have to understand what i own from my clients and i don't understand why big coin has a value per unit close to june 25th aus in dollars i just can't understand why that is i do understand why gold would be $16.00 to $18.00 to $2.00 down around that price because it takes about $1200.00 the whole of energy in capital coal or ounce of gold from the ground. if it takes 5 or $6000.00 of energy or the

energy to create a big unit then shouldn't it be closer to $10000.00 or $12000.00 not 20 very hard. 'd you know what i find it very hard to justify the price of a point where it is right now and also one of the characteristics of real money is that it's indestructible in that it's limited in supply so god only you know the certain amount of stardust exploded and treated a you and put it in the ground it's very hard to mine an ounce of gold there in the ground there are thousands upon thousands of cryptic currencies which all perform their commodities that all perform the same basic function they can move a coin in your private key which matches up with the public a who is your coin along the block chain and the block change transaction is immutable and it's essential ised and it's anonymous as far as i know all

the currencies reform pretty much that same primary function. is in my mind it is not limited in supply it itself forks or splits like it in much more often so i don't understand what makes it so valuable because you can create new cryptic current c's at will takes just a matter of hours and they don't lose everything existing unit a big romantic or right and none of them have gained any market share at all of the market of the others don't even equal 2 percent of the clients market and terms of the competition all resources that go into decline but i mean i wanted to get your thoughts on how going forward this is going to play out because if in fact these major banks and money managers aside that they love big quine an. they

suddenly have been confiscated well because and here's a funny thing with michael saylor over at micro strategy they had a choice they could either buy back their own stock and enhance their earnings that way and then that was that they were banking on the continuation of the cheap money at the fed that's what the that's what that program is all about for all these companies but his view is that inflation's you know going to become is really here for real and these bank stock buyback schemes are going to collapse like i.b.m. bought back 130000000000 in stock to stocks 110000000000 right it's diminishing returns. so you know the scenario is this one of these companies just decide on mass that they're going to put trillions of dollars in a pickle and it's completely off it's it's on confiscated will the government can't do anything about it they can't get it they can effect of late secede from the banking system and the banking system therefore could face

a somewhat existential threat in this regard and as a fiduciary and a year your money manager do you feel that this when you're looking at stocks and you're doing stock picks by the way micro strategy stock is up 100 percent since they bought the coin when you when you do your for do your due diligence is this a factor that you would weigh ense year yeah i know you have a very involved screening process for your for your pecs your stock picks do you at some point include what's happening on the edges of these markets now with this the stis move into because i'm going to share a max because that innocent until you mention the 1st question to me what separates big when i have to do more research understand what chip rates make when the rest of the credit card sees what makes it unique i don't stand that well there is some utility to somebody stop the cars buy them very sympathetic before you lay it mailbag you know when understand that trip becomes all about i'm very empathetic to

what they're trying to create i mean they're actually it's a revolution against fionn turn cheese and i completely agree with that and by the way if you look at some of the utility it especially with bitcoin is a jury hyperinflationary economies when you just have to get your money out of a certain country and that country's currency because we're just very well so maybe it's for sharing what's going on with our federal reserve system again we're talking about a $120000000000.00 of of money every month right there every night my question but to follow up on my question a lot of it so i understand your your your view is what it is but i'm what i'm saying is. the market is now coming together in an interesting way where huge corporations are dedicated portions of their balance sheet cash to this new asset because so i'm just saying as a fiduciary when you're so screening stocks and picking stocks it's a line item on your analysis at some point it's gotten that big i mean when we 1st

start talking about it it wasn't as big as it is today but it's quickly becoming the go to asset for to actually trillions of dollars around the world doesn't that become something you have to factor into your analysis whether you like it or not you still have to put it into your analytical framework where you know like i said i deem big coin as a commodity and as a new sherry isn't not something i have to go so. i don't own cobalt i don't have to own you know tools i don't have to own anything i have to where i have to do is put my clients' interests before my own but your companies or you invest in own pick for example companies i don't micro strategy now it's in pension funds all over the world and you might be an investor in one of these companies therefore you would be fit responsible to know that and we've got about 60 seconds left so my point is that even though your view on whatever it is the market is such that as

a fiduciary you have an obligation to a let's say refresh your due diligence so that it's more current to prevailing circumstances and i would i would recommend michael saylor stocks because he talks on your level you guys you know you should really get into what he said hey michael i'm always willing to learn new things and i'm always willing to admit if i have been wrong so yes i will do some even more due diligence just for you very good michael thanks so much for being on the kaiser report. and welcome. and that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stays in our bed like to thank our guest michael pans out gomer pentel port dot com so next time by all.

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