all the instances of the thing of the people voting. laws be changed arbitrarily and unconstitutionally in order to make essentially a 1000000 voting come they place without any of the checks that were supposed to be in place if any of this had happened in russia say the state department would you know i'm not an idiot remey the document was it would already be imposing sanctions on russia well all the phony election so that's exactly right and and we don't even have to talk about. what would happen in other countries i mean if they had been donald trump who had become out with the glad the when the having pocket 170 the electoral college and the goal is to have the had come out what would have been the media response the media would have been grieving

this is the roll call jump has cheated there's no mandate every single accusation of. illegality every single accusation of electoral fraud must be investigated thoroughly must go to the courts you must go to the state legislatures and also them not to certify the electoral we know that would have been the response of the us media but it has a map and because the result such as it is is something that is desired by much of the media as though their line is not election all of the reading about it stuff and raining accept the results and then move over into the coming by in error and when even if you got one thing george they would have resurrected the russia gate hoax just as an extra you know insurance policy as. you know you know max one of the interesting things it's could come about here can sit and depending on what

donald trump intends to do in january of next year and the reason i ask you because during. the fall of the of the czarist empire of the imperial government there was a jewel power that battled out during that what would become part of the russian revolution here this is something something akin to it i mean joe biden may be the legal president of the united states but in the eyes of tens of millions. up to 73000000 he will not be and he and trump will still have a form of legitimacy that. biden is going to be hard to. to out shine as it were because as george pointed out here i'm not making any accusations here i'm going by what i hear in the meat but there's a lot of good regularities and i'm being very polite about it irregularities here

so i mean what does this portend for american. america's political future when you're going to have a legal president and you're going to have a lot of other people saying he's not my president the other guy is go ahead minutes right well 1st of all any president including that of the united states usually operates in 3 dimensions and it's 3 donates as a politician as a bureaucrat and is it a matter of cheese so for biting the floors it's to kind of smooth over of the things that you just mentioned it is important to show that he's a more kind of capable bureaucrat you know he will have to ensure that there is a faster transition there that he's people you know feel it important decisions you know. cabinets of the government. and the media i'm pretty sure will pick up on that merits to portray him as a more authentic you know keep. able governor as it does a more capable person to govern the united states and that the way some other out

there americans who will differ trunks will be and it's a challenge now as a politician biden of course has to care about his part his re-election is for his victory and the next election cycle we're still have to take very positions that are supposed to strengthen that have a presence inside united states you know given gratian reform that will house you know about 11000000 illegal immigrants. more than 20 potentially even that within our investors and this is where several tash will democrats use receiver that's for the next election including congressional action and as a commander in chief bill b. you know all this focus is on external threats that i think we'll talk about later so we're city you know these will be kind of the 3 domains he's administration will pursue and the media will very much focus on 2 you know you mentioned the fatter us out shiny and of course dramas as

a much bigger or is not due to outright writing but then it will be this resource that i think that the media the mainstream media and other actors in the insight you had states will try to boost biden's presidency and as you're accurately mentioned and i think that's pretty much general in the u.s. election it's fair in the us political system that is very much dependent on election cycles and as they say the next election cycle starts the day the next day after the inauguration. but it will doubly so george because what's going to happen here my prediction is at least number one i trump is going to stay in the in the in the limelight obviously he's a showman 1st and foremost and he like secretly likes to tease the public and he likes to create interest patient and what he will end up doing is it went whenever the joe biden ministration proposes or talks about there's going to be a juxtaposition and the trump is issue is this and he will have all of his. his

orbit of people around him amplifying that all the time so it is going to be a binary whatever. the bike ministration proposes there's going to be an equal effect with the people that support donald trump because and again i'm not making any claims here but a lot of people believe that this election was stolen from them and then in until that is result which i doubt it will be there's this is going to hang over american politics for them for the next 4 years and actually freeze american politics for the next 4 years oh and by the way george the media will love it because they make a lot of money off it yes that's right and. 2 probably as things stand on january 20th you know rule day donald trump will not attend biden's inhere ation he will hold a rally of his own during which he will almost certainly announce his candidacy for

2024 he brought he did that. during the rally on saturday in georgia i mean more or less said that that if he isn't in the office on january the 21st he will be the candidate in 2024 so that's the question he will then declare his candidacy if and that means everything will be about. contending with with the policies of the biden in this race so this won't be like the normal electoral cycle or who will be the. republican nominee but in 2020 people this will be don't trump is making his comeback and he is the leader of the opposition and so whatever you say whatever biden intense to do there will be. tweeting holding a rally is giving interviews. several times a day on fox news and this will be a kind of the focus of the opposition so the by dimmest ration is already whole

from the beginning there's no goodwill towards him there's no honeymoon period he is already scrambling. against the the opponent that will be had this looming ever larger and he's intent on destroying him you know maxon in how do you think the outside world is going to look at this is it again you know. joe biden may be the legal president under the constitution but you know you it will be even noticed that there's the who's driving the news cycle who's driving what the different discussions about policy it will be a candidate that's like it george said on inauguration day if you action starts and candidate trump is going to be determining a great deal of what that discourse is how will the outside world look at as well they just be in awe or they be terrified or just be mystified go ahead right well i think we'll throughout human history doesn't work up until perhaps 21st century

whose army wins the 21st century it's super to sort of wince so i think one of the things to counter trap activity is eyes far as i can imagine in the united states is the big media act this trying to strip him of the information space what is sure of the information space you know twitter perhaps banning his accounts and you know major channels including fox news you know he's been very supportive of trump throughout most of his presidency but on some instances the. you know also critical we're not writing that last one for the president so you might be well at least to me to try to marginalize him inside the united states to create the picture for the rest of the world that he's not the what you know meet up shots so if that happens of course the critical battle will be of who gets to control the garage who gets to crawl the budget and all this things as far as the perceptions are concerned i

think of the world will be will be divided because we now see that so you know maybe american allies in western europe nato allies cheerleader were were bitin and really were you know welcome to him and were among the 1st to congratulate him on what these tricks and were as other american allies in the middle east in particular were less so you know going see was yeah stick and the trunk was at 1st deal with it at least you know their interests were served in the relationship of the united states was a mixed bag in asia i would say you know some prefer to continue working with trump others continued you know thought that you know straps a new interim alice she under would be a better word for them so i think it will mean less will still be a less certainty for the rest of the world. as far as what it's going on in the

next what i mean to end on in this part of the program you have it i think it'll be it'll be very very interesting is that you know if there's a name potential of another trump presidency why would countries around the world want to get an agreement with joe biden again remains to be on things are you look at a short break now that you were discussion and some real news to. join me every 1st day on the alex salmond's show and i'll be speaking to a guest of the world of politics or business i'm showbusiness i'll see if that. all.

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ok let's go back to george in budapest well i think that you know the 2 of all 3 of us here on this program can easily foresee a lot of gridlock in the next 4 years and we focus quite a bit also are on domestic politics and just at the scale and international politics what's going to be very interesting here george for me is that if we have these laser thin majority for the g o for the democrats in the house of representatives and depending on what happens in georgia the senate remains in the hands of the g.o.p. so ergo there's only one thing with some kind of effectiveness is that by doing ministration can pursue foreign policy ok and i think that because of because they'll be this sense of gridlock that sense the reality of gridlock in washington

in the new administration have to dissipate that come to pass in january they're going to say this is the only thing we have got and now there's you know they're putting the band back together from the obama years and even from the george w. bush years and the world is their oyster right now i'm not very optimistic about that because they don't want to show themselves to be effective meaningful and that means maybe using a lot more force like we saw under obama what do you think george i agree with here that that will be a priority. biden inspiration because as you say they won't really have much mark. aminu when it comes to the mess that they didn't get the mandate that they were expecting when the polls were predicting so this is their best shot if you look at the pronouncements of the pronounce of the blank in a by jake sullivan it's all about well let's have act with foreign policy you know well let's show russia ball let's show who didn't that he's

a price to pay for the players and. let's show china that we're ready to compete with them in every country in the world let's show the. mischievous regimes like assad who's boss and that with ill intent to overthrow them so they don't really have any clear idea of what it is they're trying to achieve all of them they want them to the american foreign policy and activist american foreign policy usually means interference in other country's internal both by a flawed policy integrating all these phony civil society programs by not the stuff about sanctions and ultimately military intervention and so no doubt that will be dressed up as right you know we're competing with china because if we don't do it china will they go places so i think that's going to be the mentality and i think

it's going to be an absolutely disastrous. couple of years you know max you know if it was during the. trump and ministration where russia gave was full blown man now we it looks like we may have an administration will have members there were some of the biggest proponents of this hoax here and these kinds of people are arrogant they're not particularly smart well connected and they have great credentials at least when as the ruling class deems i don't see them eating their words they're never going to admit they were wrong and so once. so rush again are always a rush again are and now they will have power that doesn't portend well for the future my friend go ahead well i think there are 33 elements here 1st of all around the radio always been straight up but read i'll feel for next time ok change ready it's like the trinity right exactly well 1st of all 1 throughout the trump

ministration yours barack present criticize trump for 1st of all that these team is incompetent and 2nd he's in a rush to litter and thirdly. he's undermining american leadership so basically they've gathered team who they want to portray as more competent less russia friendly and you know the willing to restore american leadership which when you look at into into the composition of the team that you see that a lot of these people have known each other for many many many years and pretty much coming from seems terkel's i don't want to call it lot but there's definitely a good share of the group think and this is one of the risks of the able to actual decision making on top of foreign policy decisions that i think is as it were for many people inside the united states as well and even if you're somewhere just democratic party or states perhaps more than a professional that person it would be to the best of america if you are secondly

their main 80 it is not worse that through trumpet ministration that there is a great need to fight what they call populists at home inside the united states in the western society and authoritarian leaders brought me since in being and not hers so when they bring a lot of this you know human rights agenda sure and there's a worse. i stick to russia we tried it was and other countries that america has a strategic disagreements with that's that's of course a big worry that's early elsewhere say you mentioned the russia game it wants russia get rolls russian. i agree with you it's just perhaps i think that they will focus more on russia is an internal factor in the united states and you know kind of approach out more pressure on russia outside you know way kind of bringing russia to where it should be as it has a big you know concern or risk that's rescue that it states and that of course does

not hold the very optimistic on all of these 3 accounts here but i agree with everything you're going to say you know george had said that it does it does really worry me is that you know like i said once a russia again or always a russia gator and they're going to end it now they have the levers of power to it and i think you know when we look at you know trump was soft on russia maybe the evidence doesn't show that whatsoever what worries me is even more i mean it gets down to at the at the end of the day you know what kind of conflict do you want to have you want to call conflict or a hot one because it's going to be a conflict no matter what ok too. yes that's right they are talking because they want to sound very soothing because the base of this foreign policy that we're talking about is something i was very unpopular among the american public. they basically kept all lists hidden and why i say sue things i will return to the new

start treaty maybe we'll return to the j.c. p.o. way will return to the paris plane of the 4 who rejoined the w.h.o. so it's all sounds very soothing 5. but in reality when they talk about returning to the new. renewing the new start treaty that goes together with all sorts of threats and assertions that they're going to now challenge russia well of course if you're going to go in with that attitude then russia will have very little interest in renegotiating a new start treaty so that's really what they're trying to do i mean they are going to compete with russia and china that they know that their mentality where in every part of the world so those sort of business and they've pretty much made no secret of this will be syria i mean this is this is a you know goes back to the obama as they would they would feel that obama failed in syria they will renewed their regime change if war is syria even though they're

against making will the right noises were against regime change where again forever was that's that's that's not really what they can that's not their mentality if they will do that ukraine again that's something that's that goes back to the obama if that's what biden's bailey wick. again that they're going to stop interfering then we're going to go mean to. the caucasus with in the corner car bomb prices that they're going to find more and more places to intervene in and to show that america is back. and this of course does bring them into conflict with russia. and i think that's why. they have the prospects are not at all right on course or not you know max one of the interesting things just something that john george mentioned in passing is that the foreign policy. that this new team are opposing

is unpopular with the public i mean it's you know if it means going back to the you know the going back to what was normal as if there was anything normal about the obama administration that and this is again the professional manager ariel class saying to the public is that we know better than you do and that it's no it's no surprise that during the 2020 alexion foreign policy was hardly a discussed whatsoever here so again we have this kind of separation between what they manage oil professional class believes should be done and what the public wants the public is against these wars here and if george is right and unfortunately he probably is right we have more we have the same old wars continuing and possibly some new ones and we after 3 presidential election cycles in a row ever is consistently these conflicts are on wanted they're not popular with the public and that was the reason why i'm bringing that up because then and

2024 you know they think there's going to be a candidate out there and say i told you so they will never end these wars there if the democrats are giving this individual a gift go ahead max right well i think all it is for as a proponent. operations of the united states and russia in an ideal world i can name the tons of issue where moscow and washington could generally cop rate and we're sure that that's not going to happen and you know that letter by letter relations lost their meaning. to many in washington and for now we're pretty much left with what the best we can do is to manage confrontation you know make sure that this conversation does not spill over to a hot war as your match larry yet it's airing everything that's happened here ok if russia gate and all of this here why should anyone in russia trust when any american administration says about anything i'm sorry getting i don't think there's

a lot and there's a lot of truth in it ok you know i mean or where is the trust what i want you know i don't want i'm an american you're russian i don't we should never be enemies but you know because given what the elites have done in washington there's no reason for us to be friends i think they're go ahead no i don't disagree with this it's just my point it wouldn't be there's definitely no trust no one really ice anyone at their worst it's just that i think you know the best looking do is to make you know managed confrontation meaning that there is no hot war and this perhaps will get based on heart or you know old school terms. and you know that's promotional you're you can do but i think and on the issue larry our policy. of this kind of intervention is not united states absolutely it's totally not popular there is both on the side of the progressive you know had the republicans that these

interventions are an idea you know they try to you know the democratic establishment try to present some brand their foreign policy i think that's a report recently of why the democrats were biden's foreign policy would be beneficial for the middle class how well let's see how that turns out to be right maybe that's a topic for another program because i'd like to know the answer to that or i would run out of time i want to thank my guests in budapest and in moscow i want to thank our viewers for watching us here r.t. see you next time remember us the tools. the world is driven by a dream shaped by one person. who

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