tv Cross Talk RT December 14, 2020 3:30pm-4:01pm EST
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listen almost that's the 1st of january of this year on the facts you press them december of this year britain will leave the e.u. both economically and legally britain is in a transition after martin's and after the frenzy fest of the senate this year the transition cannot be extended its prime minister voice johnson said barry's absolutely no doubt the transition will not be extended however the labor party is coincidence transition which demonstrates that labor has not learned the reasons for why it's was a nightmare it's about the election general election last year and the sherries that labor is continuing to come to sense the people of the former labor caught in the midlands in the north of england and in waves now can produce many years secure on free trade deal if that's the best of the senate i entered its year needs a that's it's no increase and they are likely however if that is the case in france
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if a free trade deal is not secure it will not be a concession or big as a lot of people in britain a say in specifically near a little spare what basis that britain who trades a crude into well into trades. how it's like it's it is true bats and be a would be considered london i'm plus and yes we're hearing the song nearly it was in britain who said that in jeans and a $1016.00 it's the british various of the bricks and there would be a recession but that didn't happen then they said at the beginning of this year it prints and leaves the new year it's a cleaner that's invested generally there will be a recession now the same people are saying if greece and leaves the economically and legally and legal sounds on the shows the 1st of the cent about bricks and variants of a session they were in speeds. across britain that's not happened yes i would like that's a big. you know but it's not it's not it's not. you know plain and me everything
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we just heard from marcus is that you know given all of the reasons are moving the goalposts all of the time or reinventing the same story over and over again to scare mongering context here is that there's just that there's just the establishment and neil people that all the neo liberal ideology are just simply been willing to accept the democratic will of the people and a lot of these people have power and influence and they keep dragging their feet of course if there is no deal at the end of the at the end of the year yet they'll be hiccups and bumps in the road but it's not going to be the end of the world here ok maybe the end of their world the maybe that's what they airfreight oh ok and that when that average people have to go through you know for 4 years to think about this go ahead. oh oh this is problematic for your listeners are younger they might not be familiar with the origin story because again this was in june 2016 has been
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4 and a half years and the discussion is now pushing it further down the line it is a problematic. you often hear the argument for going forward out there well we should have cut please continue talking this is also problematic cause us any economist can tell you uncertainty is extremely dangerous for economies ghostwritten can always rewire it's supply chains it can find new markets it cannot adapt to the new situation then 1st the new status quo has to stop was itself in order for the new investments to come in and justice to be made it's offer no certainty which is a problem so simple question kicking the can further down the road is not necessarily a great thing i would add it's no less a step aside really if we reached the end of the line then we will have a harbor exit because. it will obviously doesn't look good because there's an end of the negotiations of the e.u. seems gardening suspicion and the u.k. so also while even operating its navy to use. warships of from keeping foreign
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fishermen are in seas so obviously both sides are intensifying their positions but this is going to turn into a study so you know the 1st will be that this is merely time to go and i want to know steve's negotiations recognizably often wait until the last minute before they will strike a deal for this well max. and the u.k. which is often you know the same side of negotiation table as possible so also similar playing the same game alternatively and i'm starting to lean towards this which is that there are differences simply can't be reconciled that is the e.u. is largely pursuing this very federalists objective in which they seeking the centralization of power in europe an immigrant least has to be part of this regulatory framework where britain decides its regulations its laws mean all the u.k. for endless decades now been arguing that their vision of europe is on where they maintain national sovereignty and they don't centralize our so i don't know merely trade deal but i don't think this underpinning. views of what the euro should be
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has been changed in any way so i would lean towards a no deal breaks it otherwise. you have other consideration other problematic issues as well welcome boris really do if he takes a favorable deal home is going to revive the divisions within the conservatives and he's going to her revive and nigel farage r.t.m. going to start the same thing again you know kind of they've cameron only accepted this referendum on the idea that he hoped it would put this issue to bed and finally unite the conservatives and push nigel for our politics if they don't get a proper huge deal which. all the backstairs wants is he going to be back at step one so i don't see on the can really do it if you see him behaving david cameron did you know he said he would call a referendum but he was not under any obligation to be one of the biggest fools in british politics and that's saying something because there's plenty. and them
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around you know marcus you know it's interesting when glenn had to say because again this exit process in it even though you know the u.k. will know it will have a semblance of its own sovereignty in its own trade policy regrettable to our policy but the e.u. won't let go it's like a death ok is it are you or we'll give you a trade deal here but you have to follow our regular regulations and we're going to you know you're going to have to adapt to us there's a current certainly that ok in it isn't a negotiation. among equals no one is a junior partner and it's ideology to draw primes that they deem the way the brussels look at it look at the you get can you need us in the know i mean you need each other certainly to one degree or another but if they want they come their narrative disconsolately is what you have to do for us and the british electorate said that's not how we want to do business here but like you said these these neoliberals in the u.k.
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they were they were captured by that kind of mentality this is your own mentality this is the neil liberal euro mentality that we can escape go ahead it's excessively the case peter that most of britain's exports go to the european union and it's off to the 1st ephesus december of this year most of britain's axels who continue to go to the european union us on the difference of those that is a shim and of course the free trade deal is not reached between london and justice but only a few months ago pizza britain secured a very highly impressive trade deal with chip pads now barely any of the newspapers in britain were caught in on that and it is very significant because often the british people decided that they wanted to leave the european union in june 6016 in the near the police are saying that foreign investors for example the japanese won't allow. else all of britain well not only did they not collapse off the 4 and
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a half years but they have now signed as i said a mightily impressive trade deal with britain so foreign investors such as the indians the japanese and the chinese and offices all remain in britain and also a piece of the british economy is one of the most powerful is one of the most one of the most rude us in the world it has been around for centuries the fact that britain might not secure a trade deal with the year is not going to end the british economic powerhouse that it is and i would say oops sorry peter there are 2 principal reasons why i support it perhaps it's just leap 2nd table immigration which is a big problem to displace the major strain on the us ghouls and hospitals for out the u.k. but secondly it will make that the supreme court of england and wales will be secret it will not be subservient to any codes in the european union i am not
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under any illusions pete said that after the 1st the 1st of december all this shit people in britain stocks a few economic benefits no doubt in my opinion the economic system in britain is still a future one it is still one that serves the rich but for me the fact that the supreme court of england and wales will be supremum on english soil is very important for it and it is important for english people and indeed british people across the u.k. yeah having in the supremacy only comes from one power and this is what it is postmodern as ideology deems it cannot have separate centers of power here you know one of the things i you know in looking at this whole saga as an american living in moscow ok so i think i have a unique perspective. it seems to me that the negotiating strategy that brussels is that all along is a make it is hard as possible. maximum pain because they know the u.k.
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it is out it will be completely out on the last day of this year but they're sending a message to everyone else in the european union if you want you would think about you know gaining your sovereignty you know look at we did to the brits ok and it will be paying all ok and i and i and again this is ideologically driven ok because of course how can you not want to be part of the most at rest of the day and civilization in history it's very much what the soviets used to say the eastern europeans go ahead while there many british economists have been making this argument which is if if the e.u. britain has to clean up the divorce and the british actually succeeds or outside the e.u. it won't do it creates too many incentives for other breakaway political groups within the e.u. so obvious that there are there is this a hanging over their heads. but even we under speak about you know the e.u. versus britain about the u.s.
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not necessarily a unitary act 3 other they do have their own internal battles so within the you for example i think the german sound the dutch they're more prepared to make a deal. and some of this came from seeing britain get a good deal and outside the french might use the word pain ok i also get it in this part of the program we get to go to a short break and after that's over we'll continue our discussion on some real news stay with. larry it was a dream dead girl is gone for another researcher to be. removed in a few words o'malley who matters weapon of mass communication is spreading below
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blair's pal narrative that waiter's american is a danger threatened and of m.t.v.'s computers and mobile devices ordered to leave early and contaminated a country if you don't need to be able to keep your mother mary against alternative vision. if you start to question air evacuating the excelsior nic or mr didn't i mean it is a rare event in a free of the media narrative the undercover and i'm going to disable the siren. if you will get exposed i'll take your complaints to decontaminate your mind was helpful i'll use filters and break everything to. track down through
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narrow narrow you can defend yourself enjoyed reforms from the weapons of mass communications. thanks for the r.t. to. give the enemy our interview earlier. that little sparrow when shorter and you are bullish initial to show to disrupt it also has been too political but still the progress we're doing lots to roll useful struck a chord that would mean that you will cork in the us want to quit. when you are. but it's all profit and there's a write up of course on what the what all of us were also. 'd doing most of those legit want to keep them also from the still put us in your thumb is all that for a sham didn't want all the money. like i'm going to.
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get out of this i suppose there's. some that would put in that would know more than the board it's. the future movie think of those it was doing just that and just means nothing if you don't mind it just by committees and under. the shuttles all. clad because of the mouthpiece you know along to the max on probably not a few they were established on the map a lot got paid off and. have asked the economy to have more than a few last chapters that. turns out the old man might believe you will still be around the muslim to get enough balls to not only mean that as they are going to call them back in the musical i was around the other woman to turn over the mother in a moment to go. look at what's going to become
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a monk point out of the tomato plant going to come up thinking i'm up and she was hoping to go missing office going to be because we have to get out what am i do going home. welcome back to crossfire where all things are considered i'm getting a bell to mind you were talking about some real. ideas go back to marcus in london when we talked about going to do. force. breaks had seen the european union finally let go of the u.k. after the referee meant a referendum in 2016 but now we have the ramifications of the 2020 alexion in the united states now coming up into the election and actually ever since the trump
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brand president and to that they do 1016 campaign there's been this talk of a cultural civil war in the united states and it's actually very real it's very culturally here now as a result of this election here it's a bizarre election i will leave it at that but it is rekindled a lot of very strong. passions among people in the united states and we used to be that the terms are red and blue here and those those tensions are only simmering here particularly when you have the media and the professional leagues all on one side and then you have these people that are supporters of donald trump donald trump got 10 more 1000000 votes than he did 4 years ago though somehow he lost the election here passions are very very high marcus and sometimes you can't unring bells if you know what i mean go ahead festival i want to clarify
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something for the people who are sharing the agenda in america which is surely divisive and culturally incompatible and i think a little was naught mox it's not liberals in a constant sense such as that you could look at your. and their subtly not marxist if the b.l.m. harappan once again. and since that you are in cities we offices i think they would i think they would be on the receiving end of the shebang sorenson's not these who are often neo liberals and it is abundantly clear that this cultural agenda move nights assayas. koontz made people in sets in states in america think that we have nothing in common with states as california states such as new york states such as michigan now i don't see any session in immediate future but nonetheless
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this foundation trope extension secession feature be being laid as we speak now off because if joe biden does go on to issue presidency be thousands of the white house entrancing $21.00 which is looking like he will now he is going to insert holiday b.l.m. cause events and that will be in my opinion better mansel to cultural unity in america and i think what we have seen here is another example of a major role of liberal democracies because americans like reason is a democracy. where you have a culture which is being that's when you have very powerful enemies within the establishments which are pursuing an agenda which is highly dangerous high places
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and incompatible with most people in the given country america or britain what it requires is a very strong leader to deal with that stress donald trump insight into some of this you spoke about that mention and seen b.l.m. illegal movements he's. testifying on this terrorist movements which i believe they are the violence on the b.l.m. reasons as being absolutely 00000 nickel it has been absolutely atrocious oh yeah it's is a leading liberal democracy in iraq and you're told it's mostly peaceful i mean i think that's like the year mostly peaceful ok and again. i believe you're lying i mean it's amazing how the media has been so dishonest about this claim but with the you know i didn't do a great i mean there's a lot of people like to push the envelope on this about secession in america and there is this session ism of the mind i think that is very very real now the number
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of people that don't watch the oscars or the grammys they don't want to watch football because of their b l a black lives matter if you hear i mean more and more people are boycotting emphasis and having a host kind of a monastic. state of mind state of living because i don't i understand it because i agree with them i'm sick and tired of this cultural garbage it's an insult to traditions and some of them are great traditions and to history traditions that are not so great you move away from them or you amend them you change them you do want to turn in and you do it to consensus but this is the left here i mean they're just were out for a ny aleisha ok if you don't agree you don't exist go ahead well i don't foresee any is a session and foreseeable future either but you know what was interesting this week is it came out the forefront of their rhetoric but as a living at conservative pundits i just rush limbaugh here all this began to argue
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about this because it's becoming a possibility and on they also had some activities on the grounds of just texas as you know if you're closer union those states who support the constitution. because their lawsuit cellist election results last the night i mean all they have a democratic lawmaker now who asks a lawsuit to deny seats dollar republicans will support it is legal at 1st to contest election so but 1 again this is something that's been building over time and i wouldn't even agree that it will be. because a lot of this pos of the caves of history behind it was over the. united states has become increasingly politically segregated that is to republish some. what's more politically homogenous neighborhoods here if you americans know people belonging to the others a little party empathy is dropping very rapidly and they don't get their news from the same source as you point out and now they're even reluctant to use the same social media and they don't anymore watch the same cultural events are just the
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grammys. there's the less and less about each other and over the past years this is reached a point where where the political opposition are more and more deemed to be an enemy rather than someone who conditions a different path so it's not just their identities. are part of about actually see themselves as being direct opposition to each other asking whether or not they can actually live side by side and the conservatives a specialist felt very much squeezed in this a culture war because hollywood has become more and more liberal universities house steadily become more and more liberal with hardly any concern to stuff anymore and conservatives are now seeing university is almost like an adult indoctrination camp which took a family for. all this has now been tense an outing with the most politics that's what exactly that's exactly what the university system is ok i mean you can people go she usually into debt to be programmed for an economy that they're not prepared
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for ok unless everyone's going to be a diversity adviser which i suppose is not impossible get a marcus is the thing is that you know traditionally and i think around in there on the western world here's once you have an election you try to you know you put out a. signal of some kind of we have to come together now nominally mr biden his said that ok but then you have a lot of people at this trump accountability project i mean basically going out and saying ok now we're going to go after everyone that was in is orbit for the next 2 years they'll never publish again they'll never work again they will be shamed they'll be docs i mean this is going down at the mines at the glenn. is described here i mean this is a night you know you have to annihilate your your opposition you don't deal with it you don't negotiate with it you certainly don't compromise with it and and at least in my opinion this kind of hostility there is. 0 some hostility comes from one
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side or america go ahead it's indeed pizza but if joe biden truly wants to attend it's so he will do divisions to heal the wounds in american society then he and the rest of his administration and also the little major the neo liberal media in america must cease it demonize him don't trump in demonizing the people around him in daman eyes in his supporters if they do that then yes there is a possibility that america crudes and i have size could weather the storm in the short term i still believe the visions of the wounds of the for the long term however will joe biden presidency do that i think not we're the near little majora in america do that i certainly think not i believe that if
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joe biden enters the white house this will be an opportunity especially for the nearly 2 major in america to take vengeance on americans who support it donald trump and there in lies the bevin lies the seeds for future disaster in america because in my in my opinion peter the catalyst for the divisions in america is not actually race it's actually policy that raises another issue the republican and democratic policies they are multimillionaire policies they are elites his policies it is not in the in. interests to change the economic system in america because it's since then however the focus is now owns rice and i do not believe that is the cats of this yes there are certainly troublemakers in america for example the b.l.m. response and i believe it is economics that is coups in the divisions in america
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and unless that is addressed then yes they could be secession in the future but i do believe that the demonization of donald trump and the demonization of his supposes will continue i believe more credence mo powell who begins in sabean and more legitimacy will be given severely and of course peta action reaction it's the law of the jungle if you strike someone in the face they're going to strike you back and then it would be tit for tat you know inclement day and i completely agree with marcus here because i i certainly think that this race issue is artificially foisted into the political narrative here it's class and there's a and there's an amazing opportunity here and and as a conservative and not as a member of the republican party but as a conservative i think for me well we'll be watching to see if if the g.o.p. can understand what happened in the 2020 alexion where it expanded its its base its
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tent is bigger than ever before and it was because of class and if they can if they can finally jettison their ridiculous libertarian ideas around the economy they haven't a path to recast american politics along class lines which i think it certainly should be because that's a winning that's a winning coalition and that win means to be seen but these cultural wars well i really get i really get tired when the g.o.p. gets sucked into it because they don't know how to fight them because they don't start them i'll give you the last 15 seconds go ahead. though and i agree with that and i but i would also the u.s. has mechanisms against this against especially when they were just in some power and actual states. if they really want to know how this come together they need to allow the state system to work so decentralized power but it seems to going the other way enough by imposing this yells interrupt you here but there was a number of states that went to the supremes court about this election and they
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