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is this state of journalism that we know that the big tech the media companies are running interference for the biden campaign is the in the repeated claims that $100.00 biden's story. and it's not that's not true they lied to us and remarkably and maybe someone here can explain to me why did the biden campaign come out with hunter's statement ok where's that going to go but you know i mean this is an extraordinary event i don't think you and i have ever seen anything like it in our life where you have a complete blockade. taking people off of twitter blocking people from sending personal messages all in support of a candidate which normally speaking at least in our lifetime they should be more neutral go ahead joe what's going on well the question of this program is well the media recovers yes sure the answer's no. no in the short term anyway i think bottom line is partisanship is dish roiling if it hasn't already destroyed
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journalism because journalism must be nonpartisan or else it sees it ceases to be journalism the become something else and we've got a whole lot of something else right now in american media. bob kerrey the founder of our website consorting news in the last piece that he wrote before he died exactly 3 month 3 years ago december he wrote about this dying journalism and because of the partisanship taking it over and the basics of journalism a fax of being neutral of being impartial was going by the wayside he didn't if i did the arjun's of this with the in the reagan administration with the rise of right wing talk radio but then he came to see that especially during the obama administration and it really took off going to trump and station that the democrats were doing the same if not worse than what the right wing had done and when i say democrats i don't i don't call them left i think the democrats a center right but in that nonetheless they're certainly the other party and both
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sides are using other democrats because as much or democratic t.v. particular and newspapers and there are republican i mean you just look at this think it's not only m.s.m. b.c. but let's look at c.n.n. for a moment and bite your viewers peter to go to you tube and look up i think it was june 1st 1980 the very 1st broadcast of cable network news they had lots of news reports they had an interview with jimmy carter they had a report from the middle east looking critically at israeli politics they even had like a 15 minute investigative report about faulty fuel gauges on commercial airlines know the words they would journalism can be done on tell needs to go to what we have now on c.n.n. we have crying on the air and had judy elation because their candidate won it was an embarrassment. and i have something to say about biden later in the one thing i'm sure that a commodity that standard. that's the main point i want to make it's a beginning here steve you know the but you know when when there's just that
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mission when you know the. campaign is it needed hunter was under investigation actually been under investigation for 2 years where was the mainstream media and i'm thinking of them as i me think and c.n.n. particularly oh i didn't say we have to apologize to our viewers in fact there is these were this is a real story and we need to cover it but they can't even do that i mean when i'm already now is that they're probably you 2 is going through and deleting all of those videos because there's some ashamed of themselves they should be but they're not go ahead well as you don't correctly said journalism is dead the media as we thought it existed although it never existed as we'd like to believe it existed even back to cronkite days in the 3 network newscasts it was never down the middle if you look back and these people certainly had biases if you look back but it said it's done but the junk is instead of admitting it and generally new to that
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it's you know it goes back to the gentleman who unfortunately passed that it goes back to the reagan administration and right wing talk radio but that talk radio host of which iow i won and was run back then never called ourselves journalists we would talk show host we had an opinion we're supposed to that's what we did and do but these people like jake tapper and rachel maddow and the rest of them on m s n b c c.n.n. and throughout the media stephanopoulos all of that money b. c. well call themselves and to call themselves journalists the gent tapper said literally thank you supreme court thank you for when they wouldn't take the pennsylvania case last week because as you say and my parents once my parents were going to be disenfranchised they live in pennsylvania thank you and that's just our little small nothing example they do an hour after hour day of. day so that you know during all of them but back then you're back adequate and they are journalist
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david so and so what is their mission here their mission is not to learn form the public so what is their mission is their mission or do they just. will willingly willfully happily and become very rich just being an extension of the political class is that i mean do they see that is that what their role is right now is that really kind of grease the works or for the people that pay oh go ahead there's in my mind there's no doubt about that the amount of money that these journalists get paid if you realise it's not journalism it's entertainment they have a vested interest in securing their space but it's beyond misinformation it's redirection it is almost indoctrination and you say they were actually on twitter blocking the link to the new york post story and they were blocking it in dns so you can even share that information if you want and they were moving the links and then 3 weeks later after the damage has been done because we now know that you don't need to look for voting machines for election interference you don't need to look for algorithms and and plug in software you don't have to look media russians
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are like you know jokes aside i was just watching online how dr atlas was shamed for having given an interview on our t.v. by c.n.n. because they referred to r t as russian propaganda you know i see a concession through projection not recognizing or trying to conceal the fact that they are left wing propaganda there to support a candidate and a purpose or a cause of journalism and talk about the f.b.i. being that you know investigating this for 2 years we've seen in michael flynn the f.b.i. has been politicized media has been politicized journalism has been politicized it is no longer about misinformation it is actually a vote over misinformation and censorship and it's ok go ahead steve jump in i was going to impute or the question is how many journalists do i mean you know reporters journalists at the new york times and there are a lot of the new iraq you could point to any. they're not about investigation of hunter biden for 2 years. then i really think at least they have
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a time there and there might make up something jeffrey and accomplish are lacking in repealing that birth agree there had to be many such reporters who knew about this and decided to do nothing with it for 2 years beyond strategic leaking and that's what it's all but came to joe you know it's interesting from what we've heard from all of you that the media is in the service of media and people that pay him and pay them in their donors here but what about the public because the public is not as dumb is these people think i mean they feel so superior intellectually superior morally superior that they think it about who they're talking to and and i think that they will they are ruining the day because you know if we look at this election which is not the topic of this program here but there's a lot of disillusion people here because of the role of the media go ahead joe there's no question about that but they are speaking to their own camps and they are confirming their biases and this is
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a very dangerous thing obviously if you're not getting a counter. viewpoint on an issue i just want to say one thing about the hunting budget i just started it in 2019 when there isn't it was came around to you peter on your show consider news we were right about charisma 2014 when it's right. when when suddenly we knew about from the victoria nuland tape and this by the way is a bipartisan agreement to not mention that the opening act of this whole drama was the coup that united states helped arrange in ukraine and as soon as it happened we heard from newlyn that joe biden was the point man he shows up like in 1000 century colonial situation start giving out job see your cronies and coding his somehow i'm not saying i know that biden got in that job that clearly biden being the guy in charge it was the viceroy of ukraine and suddenly jeffrey archer who was a. friend of the kerry family gets a job monsanto gets in an american becomes a finance minister the day after she becomes ukrainian cities they took over the
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country and it's funny because biden may have to fire 2 prosecutors now peter have got one in ukraine fired and they have to get one in america fired to protect the son and maybe himself jokes i have to say and i want to compliment you and consortium news and dot com because as you just said you and i were talking about that and when when the when the impeachment what is this fake impeachment thing i just wonder i was jumping up and doesn't do it don't you ever watch crosstabs don't you ever read joe's work we've been talking about this for years and they're making it sound like this came out of all nowhere ok i mean is it the exact. opposite and i want to also point out that this web site supported neither candidate we are nonpartisan and i've never been a fan of trump or biden i don't like either as an easy to be nonpartisan when you can stand in the party but if you recall back in 2 years ago on business started coming up jane meyer in the new yorker about the speech saying it was all debunked
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that biden has never been investigated how could something be debunked before it's even investigated to the point when he got his feet here that's the point here i mean you had p.b.s. and yet seen an unsafe they're not going to investigate it debunks story how do you know it's debunked if you haven't investigated it steve i don't but not on a regular compound they had i reckon if they had a regular crack a carpenter. hunter by anybody there and then i'm not like he didn't exist that could never happen and they had a computer right and start there right every person on c.n.n. and there are that computer and computer and some call the e-mail smacks of the russian empire russian propaganda i mean are people. going to do anything and i know you don't want to you know we're not talking politics here but you can't i don't believe removed. the politics i don't know where i live there has been building projects. don't know where are the other trump and when people. and power
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pop rock that trumpet that nazi or racist an authoritative. threat to democracy a threat to their country existential threat. we have justified in some in doing anything to discredit him clothing including one on this before we go to the break here including it justify it appear justified google and twitter and facebook to to abuse their 230 cut out and you know and for all the talk of election meddling and there is outside countries too that meddle in american politics russia is not in the top 10 maybe not even the top 20 but there is a lot of meddling here but in this election here people understand that it was be tech and the media played a very big role in here and we will rue the day and still coming here are you gentlemen i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion and media malpractise.
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the pandemic no certainly no borders and is blind to nationalities. has emerged with the we don't like seeing the whole world needs to be. judged as commentary prices. we can do better we should. everyone is contributing way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenge is grateful for the response has been so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together.
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welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing media malpractise. ok let's go back to david david. important issue that we haven't discussed so far on how the the media manage with big tech the weeks before the election in in favor of the biden campaign and of the democrats on the side it didn't do too well for the democrats that are but that's a topic for another program there were 50. now national intelligence officials that came out in politico and debunked they said this is just. the asli reminiscent of russia meddling in the in the politics in the united
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states number one where all 50 of them given access to this information i doubt it because none of them quoted it but what the interesting thing is that when we come to today over the last few days when the when it was revealed that in fact hunter is under investigation for tax issues and maybe others where do these 50 intelligence officials stand right now are they just liars but i mean i can't speak to the 50 individuals because i don't know about that but you're going back to something earlier it's not that i would say i don't what do you think i mean you can agree with me or just a great thing you can continue but i mean so i you know the media people they're not too bright and you know and they're paid so much money to do whatever they're told and their careers are on the line i get that ok the democrats will do anything for power ok but now i'm talking about people that say they have a commitment to the national security of the united states that have probably a 1000 years collectively in careers here and they came out and said i find that terribly dangerous oh. an agreement disagree with me and i think that's an
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important point no 100 percent but i say without commenting on that all you need to do to understand that is to go look at the michael flynn judicial saga. doctoring documents in order to get the pfizer warrants that they want against their political adversaries to pursue their political adversaries while you know everything else they slip under the rug so it's easy to understand how and why it can happen once you fully appreciate as i do now having documented the michael flynn saga how weaponized and how corrupt the invent the of the prosecutorial system is itself and for people don't appreciate this the f.b.i. you have the f.b.i. attorney in michael flynn altering the documents to facilitate obtaining a pfizer warrant against him against a quarter page and now you can ask how the same agents of justice can potentially be so partisan and so politicized themselves that they will weaponize their own prosecutorial process or weaponized not investigating it explains itself easily without knowing exactly what those 50 individuals said yeah but you don't think joe
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did in danger and didn't see that one of the things i've noticed since the 2016 election all the way to the present here is that both parties have let the neo cons in ok and if it infiltrated both parties and so ok for to get joe across the line these 50 individuals made a judgment call for the cause for the cop their cause ok not the cause of democracy here but that could make that event itself opens the door to well what happens when another president or another official doesn't follow the line then you're going to have to 50 wise people again on politicos saying i'm see and then everyone will regret it one day everyone will when you hand the keys of power like that to an elected officials and people that are in the revolving door of the military industrial complex that make so much money here 3 election cycles in a row people are against wars. but it doesn't seem to matter because of those 50
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people and people of their elks go ahead joe well peter teligent agencies around the world gauge and deception. just a polite word for lying as you've been calling it it's perfect sense here at the end of the day no one loved joe there was no in louisiana and he was pulled across a line not by voters in my opinion in my opinion but by the media and by these d.c. characters as all the time we have gentlemen i want to thank my guests montreal new york and in sydney you know what i think our viewers watching is your r.t.c. in extending remember.
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also post there was when choice of those lists nissho to show just what that also has been. about sopa publish what in the months to roll. the video that you will listen to us want to quickly sing months alone with. the belief that it's all profit and loss we are right at the core of the what all of these roles. do it in lots of those later with a poster most of them know it still puts you off. for a sham to know what all the money. is like a bit of. that in the past those days. some i would put in that would know more than that but it's. ok why are people in debt so much well you know now saying it's very expensive and education is very expensive and health care is very expensive. because of all the
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money printing that's being done to help people manage their expenses. what a joke. as the u.s. economy was booming gaining numbers of people when they need us. you can work 40 hours 'd in a week and still not have enough to get housing everybody believes america still has the lead up to the reality of it we're not financially equality and the lack of affordable housing or living minimum wage give many people no choice you know there's been a problem with the city knows turn every turn and told me stay away i know you'll miss. the food. because you know it's the route for. the most vulnerable are abandoned on the streets to become the invisible clicks.
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