of time i don't want to hear the boris johnson government and scientists advising the girl said they didn't know that that's what would befall them as they released them they knew about covert. i can't really debate whether they you or not the fact that this is already happened in italy the same thing happened in italy in a part privatized health system in northern italy and lombardy where they threw people out of hospitals into care and and they died a lot of elderly people died. if people remember nothing else they should not forget those people those 18000 people vulnerable people do not have access to the relatives many of them who died and it's it's you know in an age when we. were speaking of so much and rightly so

of the inequity and of gender and of race. the question of old age and the vulnerability. and the way we treated those people and i say we i say that advisedly one talking about actually the government the government that is destroyed. public health in this country over a number of years in 2016 as we've discussed on this program there was a major drool about a pandemic not only nothing was done it was covered up they didn't publish the results of but they of course say it's not quite the same the government says and protest that it's doing its best every day as view governments all around the world but they are proud of one thing and that is a massive increase in militarism during the coronavirus spent $24000000000.00 from

the boris johnson government the democrat g.o.p. congress buzzing $721000000000.00. on militarism and this while certainly here there's one in 3 children in poverty this christmas and in the united states it's been for quite a while 40000000 people in the u.s. won't be able to eat tonight without food in the announcement in parliament recently water in just 25 minutes of by the chancellor was to one of the from one of the richest families in this country of what is clearly going to be the most devastating so called austerity program i mean those those poverty figures you've quoted yes one in 3 children but i would suggest that will increase rapidly once the vaccine a started to work and things are back to a kind of norm normality. you will see then and a stair or t.v.

. program in this country that will the will leave whole tracks of the country. in dire straits but when journalists are ski the authorities here or in the united states where as johnson here doesn't like to use the word austerity and says we have put more money into public service is than ever before the drug administration officials say they are i mean some people is it this obvious raising it by pouring government refinancing into a mess of companies to make them basically tax. tax subsidized household names let alone the public services being what they have that they have the certain area of the economy they have to keep afloat that's that's that's quite clear but. the fact that. the as you mention something like 24000000000 the greatest increase in so-called defense spending in recent years is announced at

the height of the pandemic when johnson was boasting that we're going to have as i think. the the most powerful navy in europe when he's sending this great 3000000000 pound wide elephant h.m.s. queen elizabeth the aircraft carrier 6 and a half 1000 miles away to the south china sea so up to the coast of thailand to reinforce freedom of navigation. the distortion over sources is is is is something that the inequity the fact that you have in this extraordinarily rich country a country that can not only you afford a 3000000000 pound new way across carriers but as revealed a couple of weeks and weeks ago. effectively military bases in some 42 countries

around the world that we can do that and yet tolerate one in 3 children in poverty that is the issue at the moment getting over the covert of course is the immediate issue and what is what is struck me is the the brilliance of silence so we can look back we can stand back and from society and say what is progress will there is progress medical science clinical signs it's quite extraordinary mind to that said we have to ensure that it's in the service of public health not in not for the for the kind of huge profits that we've seen the drug companies and global global health because of growth will break in but then there is the progress but the regression in the political life the

destruction affectively of a rather modest reform movement within the labor party on specious charges against especially against the leader of anti semitism the destruction of the labor part struction of any reform movement the demonizing of reform movement the the closing off of spaces of dissent that is regression that is what. this otherwise fista catered society should be addressing. just water is being done to the very fabric of society you mention cooperation and little is really told to us in nature nations of the sino anglo corporation over the astra zeneca so-called oaks would vaccine but when you talk about the waste of money other aircraft carriers deployment to the south china sea you'll have noticed that in the press lately

we've been hearing about human rights abuses in china we've been hearing about chinese attempts to destroy the fabric destroy the fabric of our society i'm not sure. it reminds me of growing up i grew up in the cold war. they was they was i didn't know as a kid the expression the other but they was the other there was a dark force on the other side of the world and we they were the bad people and we were the good people but putin is killing people the chinese will how many millions are in labor camps in china as well you see you know you had you had. you constantly saying about the way goes in china now i've no doubt because we go is. produced a number of groups that have opposed the chinese state in fact the u.s.

state department declared one of the weaker groups a terrorist organization they've just taken that off the terrorist list. for obviously for the convenience of ensuring that it starts taking the chinese state but the whole idea of millions of people in internment camps where does this come from where are the reliable reports of this telling us it's often put against the u.n. that hasn't been a me. you win awards the bill has a ca un report there was a committee report and most of it came from one member of that in america and the point i'm trying to make us suppose is that we are not allowed to understand other societies isn't that extraordinary in a time of great information when we have these wondrous tools of understanding each other we're not on the we're not able to understand the achievements of other

societies the fact that the chinese of effectively ended real poverty in that country and they've done that in a generation probably the greatest turnaround in a society in it certainly if not immoderately as in modern history so my point is that everything is seen through this narrow western and i would say deeply prejudiced lens of the world we can see other societies what they are also saudis have iniquities the chinese societies has multiple the nicotine surges the russian by god so does this one in the how many. bars johnson's government has just poke a to sell this the celebes arms again those are the the saudi saudi planes that are bombing the life out of one of the most impoverished

countries on earth yemen and they logistics and targeting is supplied by. british experts. that's an inequity i would have thought also saudis have those and they need to be solved and addressed politically both but it isn't a demonizing of other societies age is what britain does that's what the made it that's what we're told in the middle east you're the poorest country in the middle east yemen aid the yes yes they've aid will you tell that to. a man or his wife holding a dead child tell spain. the chargers just plain. just become the victim of a rampaging saudi rogue. and they did that raid probably

could not have taken place had a not been for them or just to call support supplied by this country john i'll stop you there more from john pilger after this break. the us economy was booming numbers of people made. you can work 40 hours 'd in a week in still not have enough to get housing everybody believes america still has the lead up to the reality of the years and we're not financially quantity in the neck affordable housing or living minimum wage give many people new choice you know there's been a problem with the cd dollars turn a return call the stay way i always. have the food that there is no answer because yes that requires resources most vulnerable are abandoned on the streets to become

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welcome back i was still there with john pilger the cultural bigotry xenophobia that's all associated with the trump of ministration war the making of these by pics we had said the trial about investment from didn't invent xenophobia the 3rd think it is the source code of the but he did he did he didn't invent certain phobia we breed we've been living with this ludicrous term which american academic call exceptionalism which means that american human beings are apparently different the rest of us there are a lot better and the system is a lot better when listening ought. you know the common even hold a proper election the idea of this that we should be constantly comparing ourselves favorably with societies about whom we are almost chewed to know was a little about as possible and i'm speaking about china

russia. latin america african countries. do we understand that i mean while we take a get out of vaccines for this coven that most of africa probably people suffering code won't ever see a vaccine. understanding how the world works it is the most crucial. of the 21st century that we all understand and if we understand that then we're able to counter the propaganda that is like a tsunami almost like a pandemic well there are internationalist some say globalist initiatives for the developing world as regards the vaccines and companies like astra zeneca are saying there are trade secure vaccines for poor countries but it was some people are saying we are getting a more sophisticated regime or stuff coming in to the white house

when joe biden becomes president in january what do you make of people that are not so uncaused the politician the lloyd austin from raytheon the syria walk and painters tony blinken and jake sullivan they will continue this creation of the other in the mindset of need 2 peoples yes of course the democrats not the republicans and i don't have any of the tunes with either of them the democrats have been the source of most of america's repressions activity in the world since 945 not the republicans. so we should be really nervous now that we have a democratic. administration cover your we're nervous enough having the trumpet administration what we're going to have is another american administration

basically no different trump was a character true of a system biden is probably the embodiment of the inside of the system of the was this made a difference and we had 2 of the drumhead in studying new was this is the one in western sahara now but actually given that you said you didn't you were part is that in u.s. politics you are astray and scott morrison at least australia did come out with a report into a war crime. committed by australian servicemen why would scott boras be saying all but declaring war on china even at the cost of economic prosperity why why would scott morrison. be. declaring that australia over the next 10 years will spend $270000000000.00 on the. military. including missiles that reach

china reach the one country that has underwritten the australian economy in that zone region why would he be doing that there is no evidence the china is and then the move all at all chinese students. flooding to straighted because they like it they like the the education that up to 5 years ago there was quite a benign relationship between the 2 countries a stranger follows everything the united states was. morrison has followed basically but trump what what what this happened in washington basically. but there is this is almost an unhinged policy that you distort your economy to spend billions of dollars. building in the

coma dating misao the can be verified at the major world power that is within your region aunt and is your biggest trading partner. i as it is i have no one thing about military keynesianism some somebody will say of course of the bank of england here and they say it's all their fault it was the government was holding on to venezuelan. reserves that actually they needed for meds and so the venezuelan government said 40000 dead from sanctions will be stolen from the earth at the code or the flavor of the venezuelan the guns way over here so they are going marbles or or top of the 30 the courts here did judge that it was as well as one way to is appealing the decision by the court over the gold but this power of sanctions as we enter 2021 i mean viewers from around the world watching us will know that they're maybe their country is under some form of sanction from

a nato country is this just more of what we are going to see or is it the fact that venezuela has vive the attacks while wedo is with boris johnson in downing street is it merely does it mean the show that they need military power nato countries sanctions are not good enough to destroy adversaries you know the there is i hate to use the rather asinine term good news but there is good news here but venezuela has survived that's a solved further north and north asia we have just seen or though it was barely recorded here the biggest strike in world history 250000000 people in india went on strike well that if those people were a country they'd be the freak of 5th biggest country in the world they went on

strike they were farmers they will workers they were people standing up for. the inequities in and and and theft of. their lives really by extreme governments such as the government that is in delhi at the moment 250000000 and that that strike is still going on i think often you know people ask me if i'm at. a meeting all this is all very well all this information but walk can be done. i think those people are a model for us it was covered here on our t. why was it looked a headline across the world if as you say it others of claimed it was the greatest . show of work of power in human history why is it not considered to

a journalist working at a major publication or book as a as a hard one because all media that is corporate media whatever you want to call it mainstream media looks from as the great american journalist month ago all used to say looks from the top down never from the ground up in other words it looks through a telescope provided by great power it looks through that lens. that's why you have b.b.c. executives and i've interviewed them. quite sincerely protesting well we we report we reported what mr blair said but. mr blair was why. well that's not our job to

question that we reported what he said so that is top down so any movement from the bottom up from the ground up. the view from the ground was guild hall used to call it the movement from the ground. if it isn't big ignored if it isn't trivialized it's marginalized it doesn't count it's what harold printers said famously it didn't happen it doesn't matter it's a there's a it's part of what i would call a kind of invisible propaganda. or censorship by a mission a few lie you just you just leave it out because it doesn't have the crennel a bit the credibility of of power but just find the there is one journalist who died this year who did question that more people didn't always

agree with him he certainly cussed out of the reasons for our a.f. bombing of syria and the alleged chemical weapons chemicals atrocity in syria robert fisk. why do you think when he made so many in the media said he was controversial that's a badge of honor i think fisk will be lying in his grave thinking. as my good they've called me controversial my life my working life was worthwhile but it isn't all or to be called that because what that means translated that it's a euphemism it means that he went against the grain he was it was the view from the ground it was he challenge power he was an excellent reporter of course he wasn't perfect he was

a one man reporter but i remember. fis would go places he was a reporter at such an honorable thing to do not worry the p.r. and he quite rightly disparaged others as being who tell reporters he made enemies by saying that because so many hotel reporters all the reporters with a p.c. but he was an eyewitness reporter he would be among the crowds in tehran or in cairo war or in the country where he lived in in the in lebanon on. he didn't know where his get a prize to ride but. as a reporter he was. an extraordinary figure so i think the i think journalism there are a great loss with without it when we want more of his work in the future we're not going to get it but the character assassination did it have shades of the character

assassination just briefly of julian a son choose chordates on january the 4th that anyone who tries to as you say look at the world differently there are there is calm raids in the workplace has journalists go raids will will damage well yes i mean you know i know in my own career when i made a number of films on cambodia that probably helped to alert the world to the suffering of the cambodian people on the committee rumors. they were highly pro is as journalistic initiative and so on but when i when i describe the why why this happened. that it was. nixon and kissinger and the illegal bombing of a peasant country that acted the boming act as

a catalyst the created this monstrous organization the kamehameha rouge and the americas other adverse saree which are just kicked them out of the country vietnam that went to the assistance of cambodia. i came under a barrel. of attack seymour hersh seymour hersh we've been here all day describing his many his many triumphs in journalism but seymour hersh has resigned the stand of i may be wrong but as i understand it has difficulty getting his work he says he said so in this show yes the connection between the controversial fisk and the controversial julie in the song is direct both of them very different people doing different things but both of them went

against the guy grain and both of them were truth told us do i expect the court to go against them i'm not a futurist i come to feel i'm slightly superstitious they defy if i make a prediction. something the the the the opposite will happen. i just hope justice just spoke provide because if it goes against him it will be one of the greatest miscarriages of justice of my lifetime chill pill to thank you thank you that's over the show added for this season we'll be back on wednesday january the 30th to speak to the form of god you had to republish the revelations of julian it's not just wiki leaks i would rusbridger about his new book news and how to use it what to believe in a fake news world until then we'll be playing that we have favorite shows from this season just face that subscribe to the channel when you've enjoyed the i'm going to twitter facebook instagram sound.

problem drugs has come from unscrupulous dealers but from pharmacies to in every state in the united states we see means very sharp increase in the number of people seeking treatment for addiction to prescription opioids invited to america under the banner of medicine he persisted with the pain but instead of trying to wean him off though she just goes after dose after dose after dose and really became his drug dealer so who's to blame patients doctors manufacturers i think it's. time with his. son to demonstrate his right not the propaganda machine. to rush.

to go. i'm sure. they still won't come. easy to deal with russia.

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