people vulnerable people to not have access to the relatives many of them who died and it's it's you know in an age when we were speaking of so much and rightly so of the inequity and of gender and of race. the question of old age and the vulnerability. and the way we treated those people and i say we i say that advisedly i'm talking about actually the government the government that has destroyed. public health in this country over a number of years in 2016 as we've discussed on this program there was a major drool about a pandemic not only nothing was done it was covered up they didn't publish the results of but they of course say it's not quite the same the government says and

protest that it's doing its best every day as google and all around the world but they are proud of one thing and that is a massive increase in militarism during the coronavirus spend $24000000000.00 from the boris johnson government the democrat g.o.p. call response in $721000000000.00. on militarism and this while certainly here there's one in 3 children in poverty this christmas and in the united states it's been for quite a while 40000000 people in the u.s. won't be able to eat tonight without food in the announcement in parliament recently water in just 25 minutes of by the chancellor was to one of the from one of the richest families in this country of what is clearly going to be the most devastating so called austerity program i mean those those poverty figures you've quoted yes $1.00 and $3.00 children but i would

suggest that only increase rapidly once the vaccine a started to work and things are back to a kind of norm normality. you will see then and a stair or t.v. . program in this country that will the will leave whole tracks of the country. in dire straits but when journalists are asking the authorities here or in the united states where it's johnson here doesn't like to use the word hysterically and says we have put more money into public services than ever before the drug administration officials say they are i mean some people is it this obvious izing it by pouring government refinancing into a mess of companies to make them basically tax. tax subsidized household names let alone the public services being what they have that they have the certain area of

the economy they have to keep afloat that's that's that's quite clear but. the fact that. the as you mention something like 24000000000 the greatest increase in so-called defense spending in recent years is announced at the height of the pandemic when johnson was boasting that we're going to have as i think. the the most powerful navy in europe when he's sending this great 3000000000 pound wide elephant h.m.s. queen elizabeth the aircraft carrier 6 and a half 1000 miles away to the south china sea so up to the coast of thailand to reinforce freedom of navigation. the distortion of resources is is is is something that the inequity

the fact that you have in this extraordinarily rich country a country that can not only you afford a 3000000000 pound new way across carriers but as revealed a couple of ways weeks ago. effectively military bases in some 42 countries around the world that we can do that and yet tolerate one in 3 children in poverty that is the issue at the moment getting over the coven of course is the immediate issue and what is what is struck me is the the brilliance of silence so we can look back we can stand back and from society and say what is progress will there is progress medical science clinical signs it's quite extraordinary mind to that said we have to ensure that it's in the service of public health not in not for the for the kind of huge profits that we've seen the

drug companies and lobel global health because of royal array came but then there is the progress but the regression in our political life the destruction affectively of a rather modest reform movement within the labor party on specious charges against especially against the leader of anti semitism the destruction of the labor part struction of any reform movement the demonizing of reform movement the the closing off of spaces of dissent that is regression that is what. this otherwise sophisticated society should be addressing. just water is being done to the very fabric of society you mention cooperation and little is really told to us in nature

nations of the sino anglo corporation over the astra zeneca so-called oaks would vaccine but when you talk about the waste of money other aircraft carriers deployment to the south china sea you'll have noticed that in the press lately we've been hearing about human rights abuses in china we've been hearing about chinese attempts to destroy the fabric destroy the fabric of our society i'm not sure. it reminds me of growing up i grew up in the cold war. it was there was i didn't know as a kid the expression the other but they was the other there was a dark force on the other side of the world and we they were the bad people and we were the good people but putin is killing people the chinese will how many millions are in labor camps in china as well you see you know you had you had.

constantly saying about the way goes in china now i've no doubt because the way goods. produced a number of groups that have opposed the chinese state in fact the u.s. state department declared one of the weaker groups a terrorist organization they've just taken that off the terrorist list. for obviously for the convenience of ensuring that it starts taking the chinese state but the whole idea of millions of people in internment camps where does this come from where are the reliable reports of this telling us it's often put against the u.n. that hasn't been a me. you win awards of the houses here u.n. report there was a committee report and most of it came from one member of that in america and the point i'm trying to make us suppose is that we are not allowed to understand other

societies isn't that extraordinary in a time of great information when we have these wondrous tools of understanding each other we're not on the we're not able to understand the achievements of other societies the fact that the chinese of effectively ended real poverty in that country and they've done that in a generation probably the greatest turnaround in a society in it certainly if not immoderately as in modern history so my point is that everything is seen through this narrow western and i would say deeply prejudiced lens of the world we can see other societies what they are also saudis have iniquities the chinese societies has multiple the nicotine surges the russian by god so does this one in the how many.

bara strong sins government has just poke a to sell this the celebes all moms again those are the the saudi. the planes that are bombing the life out of one of the most impoverished countries on earth yemen and they logistics and targeting is supplied by. british experts. that's an inequity i would have thought also saudis have those and they need to be solved and addressed politically ballot but it is a demonizing of other societies aid is what britain does that's what the aid that's what we're told in the middle east usually with the poorest country in the middle east yemen aid the yes yes they've aid will you tell that to. a man or is wife holding

a dead child spain. the chargers just plain. just become the victim of a rampaging saudi raid. and. that raid probably could not have taken place had the not been for them or just to call support supplied by this country john i'll stop you there more from john pilger after this break. i think the wish to extremely bad in understanding other cultures and other kinds of society. there precisely because it believed every word should be motoring you know in a west direction. so it doesn't really feel the need to understand other cultures i

think that she's one of the great problems the west faces now is that it just doesn't understand china and i can't make sense of china will cause you can't make sense of journey if you know about the really studying. the u.s. economy was booming gaining numbers of people made homeless. you can work 40 hours 'd in a week and still not have enough to get housing everybody believes america still has the lead up to the reality of the. financially quantity and the lack of affordable housing for a living minimum wage give many people new choice. that's been a problem with the city not always turn a return call the stay way almost. half the food if there is no answer because yes that requires resources the most vulnerable are abandoned on the streets to become

the invisible cops. welcome back i was julio with john pilger the a cultural bigotry xenophobia that's all this is it with the trump of ministration or the making of these by picks we had said the trial about investment from didn't invent xenophobia the ridiculous the story of noah the but he did he did he didn't invent xenophobia we we've been living with this ludicrous term which are american academic school exceptionalism which means that american human beings are apparently different the rest of us the law better and the system is a lot better when listening ought. you know the county even hold a proper election the idea of this that we should be constantly come comparing ourselves favorably with societies about whom we are

almost chewed to know is a little about as possible and i'm speaking about china russia. latin america african countries. do we understand that i mean while we take a get out of vaccines for this covert that most of africa probably people suffering cove it won't ever see a vaccine. understanding how the world works is the most crucial. of the 21st century that we all understand and if we understand them we're able to counter the propaganda there's like a tsunami almost like a pandemic there are internationalists some say globalist initiatives for the developing world as regards the vaccines and companies like astra zeneca are saying there are trade secure vaccines for poor countries but because some people are

saying we are getting a more sophisticated regime or stuff coming in to the white house when joe biden becomes president in january what do you make of people that are not so uncaused the politician the lloyd austin from raytheon the syria walk and painters tony blinken and jake sullivan they will continue this creation of the other in the mindset of need 2 peoples yes of course the democrats not the republicans and i don't have any of the tunes with either of them the democrats have been the source of most of america's repurchase activity in the world since 945 not the republicans. so we should be really nervous now that we have a democratic. administration cover your we're nervous enough having the trumpet

administration what we're going to have is another american administration basically no different trump was a character true of a system biden is probably the embodiment of the inside of the system otherwise there's no difference if we had 2 of the drumhead and studying new was this is the one in western sahara now but actually given that you said you didn't you were part is that in u.s. politics you are astray and scott morrison at least australia did come up with a report into the war crimes committed by australian servicemen why would scott boras be saying all but declaring war on china even at the cost of economic prosperity why why would scott morrison. be. declaring that a stranger over the next 10 years will spend $270000000000.00

on the. military. including missiles that reach china reach the one country that has underwritten the australian economy in the its own region why would he be doing that there is no evidence the china is and then the move all at all chinese students. flooding into straight it because they like it they like the the education the. up to 5 years ago. there was quite a but 9 relationship between the 2 countries a stranger follows everything the united states stands. morrison has followed basically but trump what what what this happened in washington basically. but there is this is almost an unhinged policy that you

distort your economy to spend billions of dollars. building in the commentating misao the can be verified at the major world power that is within your region and is your biggest trading partner. i have no answer but it is really true keynesianism some people say it goes to the bank of england here and they say it's all their fault it was the government was holding on to venezuela. reserves that actually they needed for meds and so the venezuelan government said $40000.00 dead from sanctions will be stolen didn't the lift already the labor the venezuelans the governments why it so that you can mob. saw or thought that the fate of the courts here did judge that it was business as one way to is appealing the decision by the court over the gold but this power of sanctions as we enter 2021 i mean view is rare in the world watching as well know

that there maybe their country is under some form of sanction from a nato country is this just more of what we are going to see or is it the fact that venezuela as a vive the attacks to go either way though is with boris johnson in downing street is it merely does it mean the show that they need military power nato countries sanctions are not good enough to destroy adversaries you know the there is i hate to use the rather resonant term good news but there is good news here that venezuela has survived the solved further north into north asia we have just seen although it was barely recorded here the biggest strike in world history 250000000 people in india went on strike well that if those people were

a country they'd be the ficus 5th biggest country in the world they went on strike they were farmers they were workers they were people standing up for the inequities in and and and theft of. their lives really by extreme governments such as the government that is in delhi at the moment 250000000 and that that strike is still going on i think often you know people ask me if i am at a meeting all this is all very well all this information but what can be done. i think those people are a model for us it was covered here on t.v. why was it looked a headline across the world if as you say it others of claimed it was the greatest

. show of work of power in human history why is it not considered to a journalist working at a major publication or broke us a hog is a hard one because all media that is corporate media whatever you want to call it mainstream media looks from as the great american journalist month ago or used to say looks from the top down never from the ground up. in other words it looks through a telescope provided by great power it looks through that lens. that's why you have b.b.c. executives and i've interviewed them. quite sincerely protesting well we we report we reported what mr blair said but.

mr blair was why. well that's not our job to question that we reported what he said so that is top down. so any movement from the bottom up from the ground up the view from the ground does guildhall used to call it the movement from the ground. if it isn't big ignored if it isn't trivialized it's marginalised it doesn't count it's what harold pinta said famously it didn't happen it doesn't matter it's a there's a it's part of what i would call a kind of invisible propaganda. or censorship by a mission a few lar you just you just leave it out because it doesn't have the credibility the credibility of of power but just finding there is one

journalist who died this year who did question that more people didn't always agree with him he said because doubt of the reasons for our a.f. bombing of syria and the alleged chemical weapons chemicals atrocity in syria robert fisk. why do you think when he made so many in the media said he was controversial that's a badge of honor i think fisker be lying in his grave thinking. as my good komi controversial my life my working life was worthwhile that isn't all or to be called that because what that means translated that it's a euphemism it means that he went against the grain. he was it was the view from the ground it was he challenge power he was an excellent reporter

of course he wasn't perfect he was a one man reporter but i remember. fisk would go places he was a reporter at such an honorable thing to do don't worry the p.r. is and he quite rightly disparaged others as being who tell reporters he made enemies by saying that because so many hotel reporters all the reporters with a p.c. . but he was an eyewitness reporter he would be among the crowds in tehran or in cairo war or in the country where he lived in and lived in lebanon on. he didn't know where his get of right to ride but. as a reporter he was. an extraordinary figure so i think i think journalism there are

a great loss with without it when we want more of his work in the future we're going to get it but the character assassination did it have shades of the character assassination just briefly of julian a son choose chordates on january the 4th that anyone who tries to as you say look at the world differently. there are there is calm raids in the workplace is journalists go raids will will damn well yes i mean you know i know in my own career when i made a number of films on cambodia that probably helped to alert the world to the suffering of the cambodian people on the commercial. they were highly pro is as a journalistic initiative and so on but when i. when i describe the why why this happened that it was. nixon and kissinger and

the their illegal bombing of a peasant country that acted the bombing act as a catalyst the created this monstrous organization the camaro rouge and the americas other adverse saree which are just kicked them out of their country vietnam that went to the assistance of cambodia. i came under a barrel. of attack seymour hersh seymour hersh we've been here all day describing his many his many triumphs in journalism but seymour hersh has resigned the stand that i may be wrong but as i understand it has difficulty getting his work he says he said so in this show yes the connection between the controversial fisk and the controversial julian the song is direct.

both of them very different people different things but both of them went against the guy grain and both of them were truth towboats do i expect the court to go against them i'm not a futurist i can't feel want slightly superstitious therefore if i make a prediction. something the the the opposite will happen. i just hope justice justice provides because if it goes against him it will be one of the greatest miscarriages of justice of my lifetime chill pill to think it thank you that's over the show and for this season we'll be back on wednesday january the 30th to speak to the former guardian editor who published the revelations of julian it's not just wiki leaks i would rusbridger about his new book news and how to use it what to believe in a fake news world until then we'll be playing that we have favorite shows from this season just that subscribe to the channel when you've enjoyed the twitter facebook

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