he leaves office to do it at the very very last minute however the number of people that were pardoned today and the information about who they are seems to have many pessimistic many of the activists supporting the whistleblowers feel like this indicates the trumpet ministration is moving in a very different direction with its clemency we are all set to cross to some more great programs and moments here in our to be here again at the top to keep you in the know to catch you than to. tatty i'm max kaiser this is the kaiser report christmas eve special while we await

santa nothing away for because the future is here now and it's glorious stacy the future is here now it's very positive we're talking to our solar punk friend a pale bridge in this episode hey welcome to the kaiser report we definitely do not want a lump of coal in your christmas stocking this year and so we are talking to the man with a vision for a solar punk future in which the people who over a decentralized and sustainable economy so 1st 2020 has been a rough year so let's look at the positive developments let's start with graphene supercapacitors you say are a breakthrough technology and battery technology that could revolutionary battery storage so elaborate on what this technology is who is developing and what does that mean actually for the future of solar today given very limited methods of storing energy because people don't see things like lithium and matchy there's

a much better material. molecule called him reorganizing the laser beam to store energy and because you think about it to be made colonies you could make material about energy storage system from the c.n.n. the office car site from yet. any storage system so you can do this like solicit ready money such faith absolution and just underutilized resources 'd so to conserve. this we have to be a problem to make this huge stewart material in the sky we can use its merits to solar energy and that is a material use cheat sheet to access the 'd theory and if i were great you should act in good and bad which is really coming at a charity. i'm just not seat but it's got out and it's around. right that's amazing so they're actually sucking carbon out of the air i mean

a sounds almost too good to be true hey if you can make you can make it a so that you don't using a laser be just using graphite but it was to get not caught on to make the grassy so if you graphite you can suppress it from the exit i'm not using them so this results you have indians oh i see this pollution you cannot turn to something much more useful so along with the problem of storage there's the issue of transporting solar energy tell us about the new pipeline from australia to singapore that is a really wonderful demonstration just how far and she has come i mean right now the majority you won't 'd find that solar energy wind energy is the cheapest form of energy on the planet so you australia is really taking advantage of this and it will be a 10 game lot so how come in the winter to keep

a straight year and committed to get to singapore to allow some columbus won't ok which was a proud 25 percent saying yes and he says that shows you this cheap skate it which has as many limits about is this a battery system that so hot story for 400 people wow so of and if he. is chosen this so the limitations on solar and it's messy it's not out of the menu quite vocal spec since him because of course it's coming down at down. right let's talk about the notion of solar punk because we often talk about bitcoin which is founded and created by the cypherpunks and cypherpunks write code they don't blab they don't talk they don't say oh if this would be possible if only the government would help us out or things like that solar punk does the same thing it's it just like the big client space that is also involved with architecture and fashion and design and arts as well and it's. just it's just creating the future you want it's

not asking for permission this is doing it so buckminster fuller's certainly his background is that he was an architect but he says he it he was the original solar punk decades ago so let's pick up on that quote you said about pollution and and then how we might reimagine a future but mr fuller said pollution is nothing but the resources we are not harvesting we allow them to disperse because we've been ignorant of their value your thoughts on this and how does this relate to projects like we see now like the international space station we have a problem we can either despair and say let's not move forward we have too many problems we can't we can't cope or we could say how do we as humans with our brilliant minds overcome these issues. yeah i mean we are on a spaceship today but the systems and processes. that the space station

are you make sure that the suits voiced and waste is the impacts of waste on minimized by recycling recycling. at those for instance can be applied to us so we can extend the life span of us in this ations and so we can't explore because it's going to be able to if we just store it in form which hosts life on this planet so i rebooted the solar movement which buttons to was pretty excited about. it that is really around so you spice that what you see in harmony so you can extend our lifespan not just institute basis but instead as a basis so that the vision of the future is very beautiful amazing to sign nature but as i say it's like using victorians that what she was kind of like post-apocalyptic when i actually saw her on treating this very much more you take it you know using clean energy systems with plants growing cities using tell me

which are available to us standing beside not science fiction and that are such claims the social climate limits you know this one company or california mother ship i when they couldn't move it would be my little poor dash at these auto crosses on petrol and christmas to get me to land it can transport caulker people across oceans with syrup empennage and stuff exists so let's see the extent to which it's about a well right so you know the use of this were punk whether it's stamp punk soul or punk of course goes back to punk rock and what was punk rock that was do it yourself rock just let's not wait around for the labels must not wait around for anything let's just learn 3 chords and. go out there and it was quite successful because it was the right thing at the right time and so this idea of doing it yourself is being expanded now to you mentioned big cohen earlier people are

becoming self sovereign they're almost creating countries unto themselves people are tapping into the sun with solar energy directly without going through intermediaries they're getting solar panels and they're tapping that energy directly it's all you know philosophically speaking we as a species have always tried to make some kind of contact with with a so lustral being of some time it seems that were really in the process of hacking nirvana you know we're on the cusp now we're going to be touching something as a species that we've all been thinking about for millennia but that we may 2021 may be the year we actually see the face of god a. well i mean 20 twentieth's and shyness if anything 20 twentieth's shyness how do kate and i remember the existing status quo much b.s. there you see huge volatility in stock markets very much wanted to mention them to

be corporate it's been 2020 we've seen supply issues of fossil fuels an oil big drought for central associates 'd but yet you have tremendous growth in that new benjy set during the whole of the crisis we have seen. in cryptocurrency there are some exchange from from our perspective our customer base people using up and start work this year it may not produce 3 gigawatts hours solar energy for awful people all around oh doing this and those people do it independently without permission from barracks or from an energy regulators produce our own switch essentially awful . start producing the energy and then a pretty constant and this is a farming well for really money and every government comp and watching will be with a 2 way if you see our current seat is slated white or your cost to be

a bit up about what was gone where no it decentralized money decentralized and if you get anybody can just say to it which about austin and that's just $1.00 of the future 20 twentieth's prove that teacher it's not just needed it is actually happening right now paul tudor jones a multi-billionaire legendary hedge fund investor said about because that it was a bet on humanity and human ingenuity that humans can create a better world he said that as opposed to gold which is a bet against humanity that you're going to keep your lump of gold are going to hide in your house and with their guns and protect yourself from the government so let's also. talk about that this decentralized grid because some people do say i'm going to go off grid and i'm going to be all on my own living my solitary life away from the hordes of this breaking down society but where is the. you know

to me i see solar and solar punk movement as kind of like the cypherpunk movement a big point and decentralized there's a really there is individual sovereignty but there's are she powerful community so you know would you describe what off grid means and why actually that's not something that you think is true well to be offered it isn't and if you can see your base people coming in and out there you have fewer american energy if you are through. this then that's a waste of energy and somebody asked you twice to get so the teachers actually act the ultimate system where it's connected you can think of it like and then like an energy. supplies and consumer use and produce some people are produced and consumed kristie i mean we connect together you know much more which will save system it is really distributing the such as you have if you have one

point failure you press the network so in fact my point if there's one area network which isn't that they can ensure a cheap phone from everyone else missed very much like or 2 carts if you have one now it's most to have. not noted that when that it's been so so remote that's the solution i throw something else and say oh that's fine great we're going to throw in the commercial break and come back in a couple of minutes with a cambridge over there at the sun exchange dot com special christmas eves special as we await santa he's bringing in solar panels us air don't go away. i.

live. live live live at luke. welcome back to the kaiser report i'm max kaiser yep christmas eve special with cambridge over there is the sun exchange dot com in south africa in also in some bob way about was thinking about what you're saying a moment ago about the network and the grid and it's funny because here we are in one state in the north america in the united states and i don't have solar panels but i can buy solar panels in the south africa and zimbabwe to assign exchange and

offset my energy costs and have that offset through solar as a matter of fact i could have all my monthly costs for all my utilities and my mortgage offset with solar in other countries the so this seems like a remarkable shrinking of the globe through the network through the fact that all the basic building blocks of these networks the transit they the c.p.u. is the carrying capacity a transmission speeds and all the costs are dropping precipitously so everything is going toward this price point called free and so what i want to follow up on with you is you've actually got a bit of a philosophy of money itself can you speak on the yes yes from the sun is what we're about great and you can eat based on abundance in finance silicon chip spectrum from money but you still in silicon chip that's. right so you're right you

could argue a school in south africa big point for me and that's really wonderful ok should. this be quick. and transfer. sunlight then that's pretty convincing. scots could repeat that's what we. from here is criticism about bitcoins energy needs i said as a trooper through work protocol but that's missing one major major points if you can spend pretty currency on a so out on that matter energy to create that bitcoins pay back 4 times as much as you can produce while so howard produced it but that big point still exists this principle of philosophy of money it points out that it's a work sense then the value can only increase as awesome one person to another so

really there's not a limit to how much solar power you can finance if you slice it going it's incredible nomics find it where this is the place where the currency increases on the music that really be used to transform the world out so to our planet so combining these 2 critical technology into one is the ultimate singularity. right and i do want to mention that the sun exchange dot com is sponsors the orange fell podcast every sunday so i must mention that and thank you for doing that because our audience definitely does love you but speaking on this you know the energy use of bitcoin one of the biggest providers of mining rigs and in america and texas is a friend of ours jesse pelton and he runs hollow ranch and he tweeted about this when he was asked about on twitter if there was any sort of you know expert on the

alliance between renewable energy and bitcoin mining and he said about his massive operations in texas hoddle ranch build infrastructure in west texas to access cheap wind power and provide the grid flexible capacity bequeathing data centers don't have up time requirements and can act as load balancer is like aluminum smelters critical for grids with high renewal penetration so what is your response to that amazing insight and well on percent accurate i mean leads to earlier solar wind energy on air and the cheapest forms of energy on the planet so the point mining is a race for fish and you have access to lower those costs and she then renewable energy is that we also owe you anything cheap. energy is surplus so that energy to be able to be put to work so right now are so plump that it's maxed out

charging system we're a winter when the company wants your. people. convert. to a point where you sit at your seat in spouting. it really is the solution we'll all be better if it's a big one my whole according to our so out pumps oh actually system because theoretically transferred to the surface energy around the road in the form of critic artsy yeah they did this is amazing on the topic of hacking nirvana you know i think we're as i said in 2021 we may see the face of god now let us move on to some other interesting technology here aurora renewable energy and u.v. sequestration this technology capture solar without direct sunlight right this device can absorb u.v. light and transform it into visible light and energy. what's going on here it sounds credible and credible. yeah this is a great material can be manufactured using plum acid. and other chemicals

from the x. it into a type of solar panel and it's all over trip wire that might i mean you will so. let's me this is spectrum coming through or in the event and he likes to come through clouds and in our house you get something out of this energy that he stepped or this i decided that it would be a mathematics you say complete. series can be used to awesome where people cloudy days which is something you can put on windows is the only point in gains so it wouldn't consult use the electricity even if they call very cool. resorts they just say i'm who this is so it's just to say there's an end if you're out there in going from out space to pick up on it's what you see that you can do all right let's talk and get into these numbers there about sounds like an amazing development and

getting back to buckminster fuller's because you did the math on this so apparently the sun is a sun produces about 384 trillion terawatt hours a year of energy versus our consumption here on earth of about 20000 terawatt hours a year so if in fact these technologies are becoming frictionless and just getting all those terawatt hours without any intermediaries and converting it directly into a big point at a rate that enhanced at incredible leverage you're saying that the costs for energy are negative. this is getting back to one of your maxims and that is that we're entering a period of transition from a finite energy to unlimited money to unlimited energy and finite money i really love this idea can it go into a little bit. yeah that's really what was going on you got socialized banks

printing out see i didn't see any money prints out infinite money say so i know i'm interested in is based on financials also if you keep the facts play out why not quite but you can't see the crease about time and hosting in an issue for which decreases in cost or time because it's a commodity you're bringing out in australia if it were your fortune 50 megawatt hour battery system. tesla and every one of those battery they're saying that all of those on that make great moment don't want to use the bottom line is that great this is just generates and that's really the solution no one ever said that we can soak into so well it does require sewer systems. and that's why things like the queen won't it actually prove well it's a winner so that's one thing you color our. chance to get like sad that i use the

systems and prefer to go to some truth to talk in some ways in a more way improve and get out networks people and motivations really really transform trust the future in terms of transforming the future i want to go back to something you said because every minds may have something that we had a guest here bob mccallum wrath who was a he's a theoretical physicist worked at cern and he 1st saw he disagrees if there's any such notion as unlimited energy but by the human mind he said it's practically unlimited obviously physicists are absolute in their terms but he did say you know because the the beauty of bitcoin and my big question is amazing is that it monetizes energy as a converts energy into a unit of accounts and so this goes hand in hand with the development in these battery technologies because it is. the way this store you can use your solar

panels to store that energy you could store the energy in the value that is big coin and then use it later if you know with the load capacity available so i think that's kind of it's an interesting thing if you want to comment on that but also these solar blends like what does that future look like because i love that idea i love the idea that you could stay in a blimp for a year and float around the world and go travel and see all sorts of stuff and again it's seems like it's it's it's something that will be available to all like that the cost because so much of the cost of flying a jet plane is about its you know just getting off earth like being able to lift off the ground gravity fight gravity so combine those $2.00 together. so the one thing that is limitless is the human imagination i was if you know much nation anything valid or not and the coin is entirely based on perception of it so this

one it seems that everybody you want it or any it's minuteness can theoretically finance unlimited amounts of energy systems which can be converted to energy transferred around both in the form of critic can't see so that's that's the limit suspect it's a problem. and i'm what we do so we're going to utilize be going to build a new energy system and that would be the best 2 states imaginable in. some exchange and then likewise in the local aviation many people criticise comments around let electric acra you know literally take off because of the wingspan the future radiation just listening to beat it exists in an actor off it can be in form lips so you'll be ok with literacy microbiome house a 100 public systems on board so you. were included in the air well so you can be

at. and you can and you can live on it i don't really see the reason why much in from one constant to another a matter of hours discomfit the weekends where you could take a couple of days to get from one country to another in silence with amazing peace and just got so close there having a group of restaurants and gyms on the on the planet to connect to the east that you check your current price from the sky or check what the passage especially if you want to see i'm not chasing to get back into it it's a matter of drawing. environments that's something that was so cheap by putting a value creating around well 10 what used to see yeah the block sounds better to me than they have let's say virgin galactic i know you're going to be on the verge of glad that you're on though. less to take that ship into space but about a choice i'd rather be in a blimp you know and floating around for a year or 2 that live still and you know you that i. liked.

it i'll see the point to point to dissipate in space trucking. industry. and money into space we want to see anybody vote that industry so yes free space flight to improving whenever i'm not going to space yeah no i mean if i want to you know plant a satellite in space i would definitely have to take a rocket but you know i'm more into the laser stuff you know back in the seventy's and eighty's during the development of the nickel or atomic energy energy industry here to phrase back then saying this is so fission that it's too cheap to meter you know this was a big phrase back then tomic energy too cheap to meter and of course that proved to be false but what you're talking about it does almost sound like as too cheap to meter solar in a way and we're getting into this phase where energy costs are approaching 0 a. meter energy is expensive and getting ever more expensive so very cheap is cheap

getting cheaper and so you know it's be so cheap that we can just get energy away free stopped so all right awesome cameras thanks for being on the christmas eve guys reports special already and that's going to do it for this episode of kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacy herbert like to thank our guest cambridge of the stock exchange dot com and so next time by all. narrator i'm there to paris go on another researcher to the green earth where american writers weapon

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