and the tube arab autocracies the 3rd and 4th arab countries to open diplomatic relations with israel to egypt and jordan the agreement is seen by u.s. president trump as the dawn of the new middle east and the beginning of a new era of peace but of the sea it is the building of a strong front against iran and a potential end to any chance of a future for the palestinian people and when his show i'll be speaking to the palestinian ambassador to the u.k. and some zone lot and later in this program we'll be hearing from the editor in chief of the jerusalem post yack of cats but 1st joining me now from tel aviv is the 10th prime minister of israel ehud barak who also served as defense minister for 27 to 2013 former presidents to think so much for coming on before we talk about anything i suppose we must talk about the lockdown in israel perhaps the 1st 2nd lockdown in the world your prime minister netanyahu saying that your country is on the edge of an abyss what do you make of the situation every major critic of of the prime minister of police is on this issue we have went through the 1st 2

a very effectively but then. we gave our self a pose for half a year and nothing had been done to improve the capacity that the capacity of the world. and to deploy damages the plan of israel which is there for all for 13 years now emergency plan for a wall and made jaw earthquake or a pandemic and instead of implementing these. emergency plan the prime minister showed thaw them all did all the constraints and now we are paying the price for. the chances of these down to very low. economic oh i see the suffering of mediums of. devastating it's still not too late to do the right things but there needs to political will.

my decision namely to concentrate on the place where there are ups and these are really hot it made me out of a concentration in they all told to go concentration and manage it in a way that will minimize the damage to economy and for old people while. empowering the healthy thing this is not done so i am very critical and i think that it's a major failure of that and the oh well he won you lost in the end actions and netanyahu supporters would say not only has he secured massive u.s. subsidy to israel a $142000000000.00 to be $2.00 to 2019 but we more coronavirus later on he secured this so-called abraham accords with some arab or talk or sees he's secured the moving of the us embassy to jerusalem something you strongly supports sour grapes for you on this look here deception achievement i'm glad that

the emirates and before. went out of the closure to no it did to foam allies relationship with us and i hope that others will follow it positive development. of course it's not that we have peace it's not a major breakthrough we know these people for 25 years. and we have a very very intense even relationship with them on many of enough but still it's good news to go see them away to to meet with us in public after the chief winters way of moving go from buffy and both of those form television to children is also welcomed here but nothing can cover these major colos. defeat by the corner viable from one hand and the demi. to economy which goes now

about to well for 17 percent of g.d.p. and our grand gunned children will have to pay for weight in a future there may be back in full. and not to mention that he loses the last of the people because he cannot give a personality sample or need for really concentrated on the series of. cold cases about corruption well obviously he denies corruption even though he's been indicted for it and as for this is abraham accords you claim then not some of the greatest developments in the middle east will donald trump seeking election in november says their huge step forward what do you mean there have been relations before between israel and the united arab emirates and bahrain the u.a.e. didn't recognize israel they would raise the word israel from atlases in libraries in dubai i happen to be many still far foreign affairs of these were 25 years ago

and i met with the bus. in sharma share hundreds of pieces of president mubarak at the time we met several times with abdullah bin they. was over there or in the south lawn of the white house the reason ateneo hill a ship between israeli business sees a relationship between our governments i was there for some 20 years and they still i do not deny it's very positive development that they are now ready to sign more formal agreement with south and open embassy than normalization debt good good news for the middle east it's a blow to the palestinians but i hope that we'd find a way to make it. so also of paid with full the prospect of resuming contacts with the palestinians not otherwise not. old bloke to be with the palestinians i

should say the leaders of met with israeli leaders they certainly don't recognize israel diplomatically you mention the palestinians they completely reject the abraham accords and the deal of the century coming out of the white house is it worse now than it ever has been since camp david and biffle for the palestinians i hope not you know it showed the world the way can you go forward form these blind hatred. and lead a thought where do people stand in front of their own publics and tell them if there is an old model state we have to have a relationship with them that's very positive any tales of the palestinian or shows them that they were action which is all for our negotiation and then. cawnpore my view is not now go for it oh if he's determined to fight there or whatever he takes

and with whatever means but then the same time i strongly believe that 2 state solution is the only solution and i already stated many times that even if we take 515 or 50 years after camp david when a breakthrough will be achieved you will need magnifying glass to see the differences between what was on the table the camp david what will be agreed and hamas in gaza completely rejects this deal of the century what do you think they're going to do next i understand that obviously israel was financing hamas you know that israeli ambassador moshi iran's he knew you when you were deputy i.d.f. chief what has happened with hamas from israeli financing to hamas now. leading the struggle some palestinians would say against illegal israeli occupation you know we cannot replace the palestinians it's somehow to happened that we we

were ready to go ahead to even though we dismantled israeli settlements in gaza i pulled out every israeli settler also and looked forward to cooperate deal with the palestinian. authority and then the. scenes then they accumulate to meet them look at the cover i feel for israel wait now. follow me every every several years we have a. higher profile clash with them for some time and then. fall forward some time with small exchanges or clashes it's not good but it's up there with the palestinians the opportunities there we are ready to concede the. support the infrastructure as long as it doesn't go and.

we allow the qataris based mainly the qataris to help them financially and it up to the palestinian people we will never settle and we still we will never accept i always say something acceptable and we are strong enough to fight it but i think that the the a berm accords showed tells the palestinians that the time poor billy had come to have a 2nd sort about the old paradigm developing and to hide to come to terms to israel it would be better for them and i cannot deny tibet of. well i don't need to remind you the gross human rights violations by israel when you were in leadership positions whether in the army or in the political as a political leader i should just ask you though why did you finance a mouse in the 1st place you're saying you're against terrorism but why was i must

being financed by israel anyway no we are not for announcing hamas we just we allowed the qataris to find them and we of course because we supplied the electricity all we cannot therefore get in our neighborhood very major humanitarian kweisi. we don't have. big gardens faith we have the cool weather and we've come up with go political leaders and in god believe me you and people with their right to have know my life. suffering because of their only do sheep and we need to put an end to it but it's not up to our feet up to the . well israel has financed hamas israel's ambassador to washington moshe rounds the deputy actually back then in back then was netanyahu himself brigadier general you'd see x. again israel's military governor of gaza claim that israel finances hamas what i'm

trying to get to as to the relevance today is is israel financing islam ists terrorism throughout the middle east we saw netanyahu accused of supporting isis dyin in syria against president assad we even know about israel's role with iran in the iran contra scandal why does israel support islam is to violence. i think that you are totally longview you mentioned me shouting to an attorney out of his deputy it was so 2 years ago failed to you the go a generation ago. we were involved in. in. contrast said but in the marginal a vote and we see in iran post khomeini iran wyvill not in. encouraged any tell all israelis probably d.

most determined state in fighting against ill i mean israel obviously was part of the iran contra deal allowing weapons to be exported to iran and as you say these are historical details but how many years ago but how many years are herded how many years ago did netanyahu meet with a legit isis diasur al qaeda sympathizers in the nato back to war against president assad of syria. i should admit they don't understand your perception of the story we are talking we are facing major challenges right now and you are talking about events which happened poor overblow you describe in them where i waited to give you the credit but these are events from 30 years ago totally irrelevant to what happens now in the middle east for from isreal subbie them or from israel's former

prime minister and defense minister after this break. 2020 has been a year like you know what now is

a coming crisis changed our lives. things and that may never reach or. welcome back i'm still here with the 10th prime minister of israel ehud barak president rouhani of iran claims that there are forces supporting islam mystic stream ism he obviously said the united states but he also says israel has been supporting that and many believe the abraham record accords on the preamble to a war on iraq i would not take going to hunt new york was going to make in a job for these these metro as a kind of phony lie have been this whole series of information about. iran is that totally biased and. there's no basis for eat and the

album called could be described as a defensive step against iranian expansion east. region ali intentioned but not as a. kind of creep for a friend or friends if steps against iran iran of course denies it has any regional ambitions did you support donald trump's assassination of general qassam silly money the iranian general who up until recently had been working with u.s. troops to defeat isis dyan syria it's an american operation it's up to them i respect their white ect upon do judgement. over there into s.t. and are fighting against. global terror all and if you ask me where do the. the world is a little bit safer place after suliman leave now to ease our thought i would tell

you yes my answer affirmative general silly money was working with the united states troops against isis day yes netanyahu is pictured with islam ists who links to isis. newness and the b.b.c. here in britain found out that british support was ending up with islam ists in syria what i'm getting at is where is the support for islam is coming from in your region you know i don't know you and never met you but i can tell you judging from your question you have. a huge misperception of what will be happens in the middle east and i'm that true to what extent it could be of value have been interviewed we continue to to listen to your claims which i found totally disconnected from reality even here all day of the names and they events

you have mentioned probably had happened i'm not sure of this give believe iran a bluffing about retaliation for the assassination of customs and their money i don't see a value for continue to continue these we owe you know your right to frame the situation or the perception of the viewers of the situation upon your judgment and to ask me just to give moral kind of what if it caved into it i do not accept your framing so i don't think that there is any value to continue doing of it but all i was asking about was how big is the iranian threat to israel now that the united states assassinated one of their top generals i think the. my english is not as good as yours but in plain english and

very clear i don't believe you did do a way to continue an interview where in your own question you're too white to put an unserved i am used to totally different interviews then i with all due respect i will ask you to end this interview but i have to ask you i mean i'm talking about regional security and the threats to israel you didn't want to be prime minister of israel up until a few months ago i'm asking you about how secure israel is given the abraham accords given the assassination of cousin silly money given the u.a.e. and bahrain becoming friends with israel you know i repeat it always with all due respect you have your opinion you have don't like where i'm asking for your idea we're in the o.t. for the brain and i know it's going to i don't understand no no you don't ask my

opinion i must go and ask for my you don't ask for my answers you discuss. form of a minister i think you to respect my white to fully uncertain your questions i'm asking for your opinion about where israel situation a deeply embedded deeply deeply embedded in your ego or pinions you have your wife or having your opinions but i am not i do not intend to cooperate or collaborate with this and thank you i really thank you very much for your the opportunity to talk to you but i think these. days i'm not sure why your came to it end. former israeli prime minister ehud barak decided to end the interview there well

joining me now for more is the editor in chief of the jerusalem post jack of cat echo thanks for coming back on we just spoke to former prime minister barak before he left is a shadow strike do you think being prepared on iran like the one you wrote about on syria when barak was defense minister well i think that israel is always preparing for. military action against iran so it's no doubt that if you were 20. it would pose a threat of an extension of nature to the fact i told this don't hate your readiness or are desire to wait this are off the map so israel would have to have the capability in place but i don't think we're there yet because i suppose the context of why iran might want to retaliate is assassination got some silly money they may ram accords all manner of different geopolitical developments

obviously iran denies any military nuclear capability do you think and i know you've been really critical of netanyahu he's actually become quite a good prime minister in your country he's succeeding in getting us support for the arguably alleged violations of international law many resolutions he succeeded in getting golan israeli the embassy to jerusalem the j. c. p. away and massive subsidy from the u.s. to tackle coronavirus. well i think that there are 2 nights any arms i think that there is that it's and you know it was the statesman and you know it was diplomat and you know who knows how to work very well with other countries around the world and especially has cultivated particularly close ties and if special relationship an alliance with the current u.s. president donald trump and as a result has been able to achieve for israel a long list as some of them you mentioned strategic benefits i would say for israel

but then there's another nixon you know the one who are more critical of who is i find to be a bit of a divisive politician i find his rhetoric to be sometimes anti-democratic i find some moves that he's made and the knesset israel's parliament against the attorney general against our courts against the judicial system and principally and most recently his management of the coronavirus crisis in this country has been a complete failure sadly i say that and i wonder at times if it's not as a result of the fact that the prime minister is very preoccupied with his own trial that is about to restart in january we'll see him sitting inside a courtroom 3 days a week for hours on end that is something that he definitely doesn't want to be it but this is a situation that needs a full time prime minister who's completely focused on the health and welfare of his citizens and i don't think that israel has that. always seen then you know denies the corruption charges it also deny that he's handled coronavirus poorly

income come given your editorials they in the you've accuse netanyahu of wanting total chaos you sound like an iranian politician in some of your editorial for the jury surely that's a that's a bit of a stretch i don't think i'm a reagan politician i think that what i'm doing and tauriel what we're doing is we are holding what journalism is meant to be journalism is meant to be a watch struck for democracy that the real issue at. and you just have to look at the numbers right and you know they pretty much speak for themselves israel today has a high school actually recruit after much from a country that appeared in the 1st week i respect march and april very tough luck i should say one of the highest it's not the highest more seriously is or went from a country to do very well the 1st way through country and now locking down the 1st western countries locking down its just for a 2nd time with draconian measures economy again which is already predicted by the

o.e.c.d. to be taking a 6 percent drop after years of growth is going to continue more businesses will close down more people get sick where people sadly die this is not good management well you have a death rate in israel which is better but capita than the one here in britain i should add and i suppose some might ask you to me war patriotic of course you gave a defense of what journalists as opposed to do that but i think one element to the abraham. accords is palestinians have nowhere to go now they've called it a stab in the back from the u.a.e. and bahrain what's your view as to whether saudi arabia was basically behind this deal involving theoretically trump netanyahu with bahrain in the u.a.e. . well i mean he threw a lot out of me right there so the let me just say firstly about the saudis

involvement with the u.a.e. it seemed that they might have had a hand in it because it would be difficult to see the crown prince of the united arab emirates commitments i make a move of this kind without the crown prince's approval from saudi arabia and yes let me just say about the palestinians for a moment in my personal opinion israel now should be reaching out to the palestinians because we're reaching out now from points of strength sadly there intransigent they're stuck in their old ways they're they're missing another they don't miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity as op even our famous diplomat once said many years ago still pertinent today with regard to the palestinians but i would hope that maybe they'll come around to it and i hope that maybe through the arab world the palestinians will recognize that now is actually the time to come back to the table to negotiate to try to reach a deal with israel where we're going to speak about him as to london on wednesday is program we invited the iranian u.a.e. ambassador to deny the saudi

a dictatorial power that you just allege that and what i think i'm getting at is and i should tell you the palestinians have no interest whatsoever in fairness to israel israel has sought opinion from palestine is clearly not happening. it's not happening but i think that you know the palestinians after the decision what it is the exact rights israel has always said the door negotiations israel was the one that embraced peace for prosperity planned donald trump and built a general which calls for a 2 state solution this is a perfect opportunity for the palestinians there get an extension off the table israel if he embraced a 2 state solution let's come let's start talking but they're not there given the amount of un resolutions violated by the treaties you mention there i have to ask you though and i asked my prime former prime minister barak about previous israeli financing for hamas hamas presumably seeking other people to get money from as it

rules in the gaza strip iran it's general because some silly money has asked made by donald trump you don't see any existential crisis that israel now faces because of the abraham accords and the actions of all trump. it's essential crisis on the contrary i think with the abraham accords and with the targeted killing that cost him some money has done is made the world a safer place or doesn't see the money was a terrorist who was responsible for generating the largest terrorist attacks the most terrorism not just against israel but against great britain the countries you're but i would he did work with him against the united states against countries in europe taking him off the map and removing him makes the world a better place undermines your hands capability to entrench insult further in syria and to continue to build up his blog about and just about the interim courts what they have done when it comes to extension threat you mention is that is they've created a larger plot that could to counter the uranian threats against israel and against

the stability of the middle east for too long people have said that israel and the palestinians are the source of instability in the sources and that conflict is what everyone today not recognizing abraham chords is part of that new news for the world israel is a pillar of stability it or have courts trenches that simply because those arab states which refused until now to recognize israel are now because they understand that working with israel will keep them safer against the true threats which is the iranians of cats thank you that's ever want to go favorite shows of the last season we will be back with a brand new season of going on the ground on january the 13th until then subscribe to the john one you've got to all the other interviews from this eason for online exclusive content merry christmas and a better 2021. max keiser this is the kaiser

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